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Blair interviewed again by police
Tony Blair
Mr Blair: Was questioned before flying to Davos
Tony Blair has been questioned for a second time by police investigating cash-for-honours allegations.

Downing Street disclosed the interview, which lasted 45 minutes, took place in No 10 last Friday and was kept secret at the request of the Met Police.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6320399.stm
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Please please please please put the toerag in the Tower....and his hideous sponging wife.

Blair interviewed again by police
Tony Blair
Mr Blair: Was questioned before flying to Davos
Tony Blair has been questioned for a second time by police investigating cash-for-honours allegations.

Downing Street disclosed the interview, which lasted 45 minutes, took place in No 10 last Friday and was kept secret at the request of the Met Police.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6320399.stm
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Please please please please put the toerag in the Tower....and his hideous sponging wife.


I get the feeling that he'll pass the blame on to a subordinate or let Lord Levy take the shit.

Nothing will go wrong in the almighty Bliar's retiring year.....

I think I've asked before...Rev. Smiler?

I think I've asked before...Rev. Smiler?

Tony Blair...he has this smug countenance that just reminds me of a self righteous 'I know best for you' Anglican vicar circa 1870's Britain. Also Private Eye used the Rev thing...I call him smiler coz thats all he seems to do...bloody smile...and not in a nice way.

I get the feeling that he'll pass the blame on to a subordinate or let Lord Levy take the shit.

Nothing will go wrong in the almighty Bliar's retiring year.....

Yeah...Lord 'Walking Cashpoint' Levy will take the heat...sadly.

Nothing sticks to teflon Tony

Well I used to work for the UK labour party in the John Smith days
[any conspiracy theorists regarding that and bildeberg etc - don't go there - you really don't want to know]

Blair is a nasty piece of work, he seriously never grew up - any sympathy for his situation or liking him as a "sincere individual" vanishes when you actually see the twisted pragmatism, the obscene political spin, the cruel mendacity of destroying political enemies by any means possible, and the smug complacency when it comes to individual human rights and lives.
the man would sell his grandmother for glue if he thought it would get him an invite to a big business lunch...he's a corporate whore..entranced by the whole illusion of Corporate Monoliths...

one friend was around when TB had one of his screaming fits - throwing things round his office and calling a trade union leader an f-ing this and that and how he'd f-ing ruin him...

The one thing that is shamefully embarassing is the way blairism utterly twisted the people i thought i knew - i can barely recognise half of them - sure there were always the ex-trotskyite bully-boys and girls - the opportunists who would sell their principles for the price of a sushi lunch and an innocent smoothie - but some of the rest - the old rearguard within the shadow cabinet - they cared !!! and now - they have been poisoned with the toxicity of the blair delusion...it's depressingly predictable....

as for the police getting blair with the cash for honours? or perverting the course of justice?

think again - he has too many protectors - there are too many bodies for there not to be dozens of gravekeepers..

The problems arise when it becomes possible that Blair might end up as one of them...the price for silence is very cheap these days...they bought John major off with a few Hamilton Shares and a few directorships - Blair will be much cheaper. I only pray he isn't done away with too cheaply.

Well I used to work for the UK labour party in the John Smith days
[any conspiracy theorists regarding that and bildeberg etc - don't go there - you really don't want to know]

Blair is a nasty piece of work, he seriously never grew up - any sympathy for his situation or liking him as a "sincere individual" vanishes when you actually see the twisted pragmatism, the obscene political spin, the cruel mendacity of destroying political enemies by any means possible, and the smug complacency when it comes to individual human rights and lives.
the man would sell his grandmother for glue if he thought it would get him an invite to a big business lunch...he's a corporate whore..entranced by the whole illusion of Corporate Monoliths...

one friend was around when TB had one of his screaming fits - throwing things round his office and calling a trade union leader an f-ing this and that and how he'd f-ing ruin him...

The one thing that is shamefully embarassing is the way blairism utterly twisted the people i thought i knew - i can barely recognise half of them - sure there were always the ex-trotskyite bully-boys and girls - the opportunists who would sell their principles for the price of a sushi lunch and an innocent smoothie - but some of the rest - the old rearguard within the shadow cabinet - they cared !!! and now - they have been poisoned with the toxicity of the blair delusion...it's depressingly predictable....

as for the police getting blair with the cash for honours? or perverting the course of justice?

think again - he has too many protectors - there are too many bodies for there not to be dozens of gravekeepers..

The problems arise when it becomes possible that Blair might end up as one of them...the price for silence is very cheap these days...they bought John major off with a few Hamilton Shares and a few directorships - Blair will be much cheaper. I only pray he isn't done away with too cheaply.

You have reminded me what a loss John Smith's death was, I always thought he would have been a great Prime Minister. Then I resigned my membership of the Labour Party when Blair was voted leader.

Well I used to work for the UK labour party in the John Smith days
[any conspiracy theorists regarding that and bildeberg etc - don't go there - you really don't want to know]

Blair is a nasty piece of work, he seriously never grew up - any sympathy for his situation or liking him as a "sincere individual" vanishes when you actually see the twisted pragmatism, the obscene political spin, the cruel mendacity of destroying political enemies by any means possible, and the smug complacency when it comes to individual human rights and lives.
the man would sell his grandmother for glue if he thought it would get him an invite to a big business lunch...he's a corporate whore..entranced by the whole illusion of Corporate Monoliths...

one friend was around when TB had one of his screaming fits - throwing things round his office and calling a trade union leader an f-ing this and that and how he'd f-ing ruin him...

The one thing that is shamefully embarassing is the way blairism utterly twisted the people i thought i knew - i can barely recognise half of them - sure there were always the ex-trotskyite bully-boys and girls - the opportunists who would sell their principles for the price of a sushi lunch and an innocent smoothie - but some of the rest - the old rearguard within the shadow cabinet - they cared !!! and now - they have been poisoned with the toxicity of the blair delusion...it's depressingly predictable....

as for the police getting blair with the cash for honours? or perverting the course of justice?

think again - he has too many protectors - there are too many bodies for there not to be dozens of gravekeepers..

The problems arise when it becomes possible that Blair might end up as one of them...the price for silence is very cheap these days...they bought John major off with a few Hamilton Shares and a few directorships - Blair will be much cheaper. I only pray he isn't done away with too cheaply.

John Smith was possibly the only pol (that I knew of when alive) that I had time for. He must be spinning like a bastard in his grave....

Smiler soon lost his luster for me about 6 months or so into his premiership...when I started to hear that things were not good...and then seeing the plastic nature of his policies...

He did not fool the old guard labourites though...not for long...but he certainly fooled the middle classes...

I lived through Mags as a teen and 20 year old...Smiler is no better than that crazy bitch.

Well I used to work for the UK labour party in the John Smith days
[any conspiracy theorists regarding that and bildeberg etc - don't go there - you really don't want to know]

Blair is a nasty piece of work, he seriously never grew up - any sympathy for his situation or liking him as a "sincere individual" vanishes when you actually see the twisted pragmatism, the obscene political spin, the cruel mendacity of destroying political enemies by any means possible, and the smug complacency when it comes to individual human rights and lives.
the man would sell his grandmother for glue if he thought it would get him an invite to a big business lunch...he's a corporate whore..entranced by the whole illusion of Corporate Monoliths...

one friend was around when TB had one of his screaming fits - throwing things round his office and calling a trade union leader an f-ing this and that and how he'd f-ing ruin him...

The one thing that is shamefully embarassing is the way blairism utterly twisted the people i thought i knew - i can barely recognise half of them - sure there were always the ex-trotskyite bully-boys and girls - the opportunists who would sell their principles for the price of a sushi lunch and an innocent smoothie - but some of the rest - the old rearguard within the shadow cabinet - they cared !!! and now - they have been poisoned with the toxicity of the blair delusion...it's depressingly predictable....

as for the police getting blair with the cash for honours? or perverting the course of justice?

think again - he has too many protectors - there are too many bodies for there not to be dozens of gravekeepers..

The problems arise when it becomes possible that Blair might end up as one of them...the price for silence is very cheap these days...they bought John major off with a few Hamilton Shares and a few directorships - Blair will be much cheaper. I only pray he isn't done away with too cheaply.
QFT. That kind of reminded me of when I met Tony Benn last year - of all the politicians I have heard, he is one of the few that has a good deal of common sense (even when you disagree with him) and, most importantly, hasn't sold out and become just another Champagne 'Socialist' in the House of Lords (indeed, he had trouble getting out!) and stuck to his principles. Not like the indistinguishable Neo Labour/Tory elite we have running the country today.

Blair has managed single handedly destroy left wing politics in this country by on one hand masquerading as a socialist, and on the other continuing the attacks on the NHS, public services and raising taxes on the common folk to throw the revenue in the hands of private companies who now operate them.

The cynicism of today's (declining) electorate and our society's (generalised) contempt for anything but populist Daily Mail/Sun headlines, although a long term problem too, can be traced right back to Blair's crusade against democracy and disregard of the British people. And it is the British people that will pay the price for his 'legacy'.

Yeah...Lord 'Walking Cashpoint' Levy will take the heat...sadly.Well, a spokesman for Lord Levy said he "completely denies any allegations of wrongdoing whatsoever", and (I can't find the webpage now) he said it's ridiculous to sugest that he had anything to do with the cash-for-honours enquiry as he does not have the power to appoint peers. Let's hope things get messy.

This reply is afew hours late as my internet went down before I could click 'submit' :(

Well, a spokesman for Lord Levy said he "completely denies any allegations of wrongdoing whatsoever", and (I can't find the webpage now) he said it's ridiculous to sugest that he had anything to do with the cash-for-honours enquiry as he does not have the power to appoint peers. Let's hope things get messy.

This reply is afew hours late as my internet went down before I could click 'submit' :(

Of course he'd say that...and hopefully it does get messy. And I really REALLY hope the investigation expands to the tories as well..but I don't think it will go that far...afterall Insp Knacker is mates wiv them...

Of course what he is not saying is that he gave cash for his own Lordship.

If this was a perfect world I'd be into a 'to the death' cage match between the dirty stinking scumbag bastard pols.

fucks sake these people need removing from the gene pool.

we get the leaders we deserve....

They come from moral cowardice, idealistic compromise , pragmatism in its worst form and supercilious sycophancy....

David Cameron's on his way and if you honestly think Thatcher was the only entity Satan bowed down and worshipped, just wait till the New - new labour tories take the helm....

The welfare state will vanish like a thief in the night, indirect taxation will soar [VAT will hit 20% using the excuse of environmental necessity and maybe a reduction of a couple of pence on Income tax] Council tax will not only be capped, any local government enterprise which is not inextricably linked with private companies will evaporate....

and PFI receipts begin to return....We have to start paying the billions back at massive interest....
In order to pay for them they'll introduce workfare - working family tax credit will be a long-forgotten dream ; SERPS will become a thing of memory for any public sector worker , in order to buck the market house prices will plummet and money trading will make black wednesday a quarterly occurrence....

The Pat Buchananites will extend their reach across the water and even more civil liberties will be eradicated....

The nightmare's on its way....

Blair wasn't the disease, he was merely the rash our society came out in....

we get the leaders we deserve....

They come from moral cowardice, idealistic compromise , pragmatism in its worst form and supercilious sycophancy....

David Cameron's on his way and if you honestly think Thatcher was the only entity Satan bowed down and worshipped, just wait till the New - new labour tories take the helm....

The welfare state will vanish like a thief in the night, indirect taxation will soar [VAT will hit 20% using the excuse of environmental necessity and maybe a reduction of a couple of pence on Income tax] Council tax will not only be capped, any local government enterprise which is not inextricably linked with private companies will evaporate....

and PFI receipts begin to return....We have to start paying the billions back at massive interest....
In order to pay for them they'll introduce workfare - working family tax credit will be a long-forgotten dream ; SERPS will become a thing of memory for any public sector worker , in order to buck the market house prices will plummet and money trading will make black wednesday a quarterly occurrence....

The Pat Buchananites will extend their reach across the water and even more civil liberties will be eradicated....

The nightmare's on its way....

Blair wasn't the disease, he was merely the rash our society came out in....

mmm not sure I entirely agree with you but I think you are certainly on the right track. Our main problem is apathy.

I do not see Cameron as PM though. He is not strong enough to deal with the attack dogs in the 1922 Committee...any sniff that the tories might reach power they will turn on him. Lets face it...Cameron is a joke really. And vulnerable.

What the situation does do is sets up the Lib Dems with possibly their only chance of gaining power of some kind.

mmm not sure I entirely agree with you but I think you are certainly on the right track. Our main problem is apathy.

I do not see Cameron as PM though. He is not strong enough to deal with the attack dogs in the 1922 Committee...any sniff that the tories might reach power they will turn on him. Lets face it...Cameron is a joke really. And vulnerable.

What the situation does do is sets up the Lib Dems with possibly their only chance of gaining power of some kind.

Meng for the win!;)

But a hung parliament looks likely to me, what with Cameron avoiding policies like the plague and the labour party looking guilty as hell over this cash for honours scandal (they need to find a way of cutting Levy loose ASAP, the longer it goes on, the worse it is. I think he'll be out the door right after Blair.)

we get the leaders we deserve....

They come from moral cowardice, idealistic compromise , pragmatism in its worst form and supercilious sycophancy....
I have to half disagree with you there. I believe that many of our problems come from our current absurd constitutional arrangement. Politicians in the UK are dictators for life, if not in government, in opposition with all the perks. Our voting system takes care of that - heavily favouring incumbents in safe seats and ensuring the two party oligarchy. Furthermore, a Prime Minister has absolutely no check on power during his/her reign - the Lords can do nothing, and Prime Minister can crack the whips and force MPs into line and exercise a range of powers simply by asking the obedient monarchy.

Is that a place where democracy can flourish? No. That's why so many don't give a shit. Why vote of it won't make a different? Why should I vote if I can only have a Labour, Tory, UKIP or BNP candidate?

David Cameron's on his way and if you honestly think Thatcher was the only entity Satan bowed down and worshipped, just wait till the New - new labour tories take the helm....

The welfare state will vanish like a thief in the night, indirect taxation will soar [VAT will hit 20% using the excuse of environmental necessity and maybe a reduction of a couple of pence on Income tax] Council tax will not only be capped, any local government enterprise which is not inextricably linked with private companies will evaporate....
Some of the welfare state will possibly disappear over the next few years (Labour is already cutting back child tax credits), but probably not much. VAT rates of +20% are not unheard of (Ireland and Eastern Europe) and food and essential goods are exempt, so that is a slight possibility, so long as income tax is reduced, to make it potentially politically acceptable. Capping council tax won't happen because central government would have to make the shortfall, and any government enterprise not based on PFI evaporated years ago.

and PFI receipts begin to return....We have to start paying the billions back at massive interest....
Again, we probably already are. Part of the NHS problem is the PFI chickens going home to roost. The companies (with your taxes funding them) aren't in debt.

In order to pay for them they'll introduce workfare - working family tax credit will be a long-forgotten dream ; SERPS will become a thing of memory for any public sector worker , in order to buck the market house prices will plummet and money trading will make black wednesday a quarterly occurrence....
Nah. Our current political system loves the status quo, although a workfare style system could work its way in with current attitudes (fuelled by the tabloids) and rising unemployment. We might have economic troubles in the future, but I don't see a black Wednesday.

The Pat Buchananites will extend their reach across the water and even more civil liberties will be eradicated....
Well, looking at how the reaction of the gay adoption came across, 'family values' could become a new election seller. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

The nightmare's on its way....
Daily Mail Britain. Or just England of Scotland gets its way.

Blair wasn't the disease, he was merely the rash our society came out in....
In biological terms, Blair is just a ****.

Meng for the win!;)

But a hung parliament looks likely to me, what with Cameron avoiding policies like the plague and the labour party looking guilty as hell over this cash for honours scandal (they need to find a way of cutting Levy loose ASAP, the longer it goes on, the worse it is. I think he'll be out the door right after Blair.)
I don't see Sir Ming doing so well, I'm afraid. People liked Kennedy, not the Liberal Democrats.:(

I don't see Sir Ming doing so well, I'm afraid. People liked Kennedy, not the Liberal Democrats.:(

What if we dyed his hair and forced him to drink whisky, would that help?

What if we dyed his hair and forced him to drink whisky, would that help?
Nah, that wouldn't help his running.:p

Meng for the win!;)

But a hung parliament looks likely to me, what with Cameron avoiding policies like the plague and the labour party looking guilty as hell over this cash for honours scandal (they need to find a way of cutting Levy loose ASAP, the longer it goes on, the worse it is. I think he'll be out the door right after Blair.)

Hung Parliament...thats as close to central government the Lib Dems will get. Ming...Ming is a dead weight but I don't think (barring any major gaffs) he will be an influence...

And it will most likely be a Lib Dem/Lab pack...which would be hugely ironic...

Hung Parliament...thats as close to central government the Lib Dems will get. Ming...Ming is a dead weight but I don't think (barring any major gaffs) he will be an influence...

And it will most likely be a Lib Dem/Lab pack...which would be hugely ironic...
But useful. The Lib Dems would likely insist in PR (to their advantage) which, if introduced correctly, help cure the apathy problem, although it's no panacea.

But useful. The Lib Dems would likely insist in PR (to their advantage) which, if introduced correctly, help cure the apathy problem, although it's no panacea.

We can't even build a new national stadium mate....what chance PR...:headbang:

Have only met Ming once, but he's much more sincere than kennedy ever was.

Campbell's big problem is the usurpation of the party by the orange-list brigade; who make thatcherism look like pinko commie social liberalism.

nine-tenths of the time Ming is not saying the things he truly believes, merely that which he is told to say by "THE PARTY" - you'd be amazed how tyrannical the pressure is with the liberal democrats...

I think the lesson for us all is "don't trust the trotskyites or the socialist workers" - they don't believe what they profess - and as soon as they get into any positionn of political power they revert to bullying pragmatism - look at mandelson,hewitt,milburn,johnson etc - they are nasty pieces of work. I remember getting a letter from barbara castle, she was exceedingly polite and funny and ridiculed my naiive teenage questioning - but there was something - she was fully aware of the opportunism and hypocrisy of her succesor in blackburn and one time pps - Jack straw. It was very sad, those who had once been in the heart of the political system knew that their "ideological progeny" would abandon all that they stood for...One need only look at the Milliband boys to acknowledge that.

as for this whole gay adoption row - as a catholic I am seething !!
We allow adoption to single gay men and women all the time...
But we cannot separate Sex from the openness to life so all gay sex is seen by us as masturbatory and not beneficial to a true love developing between gay and lesbian couples - it's not seen as evil or terrible or the end of civilisation as we know it - it's just something we cannot promote, because if we do we have compromised on our stance against sex outside marriage, the use of contraception, prostitution and even population control in countries like china - sounds crazy I know but that's what happens when you have principles.

Now, yet again i seem to be blowing my trumpet, but i actually met the cardinal when he was bishop of arundel and brighton - during dinner we had a very heated discussion regarding his laxity andcompromising with other religions in his diocese. He's a nice enough guy but I wouldn't trust him as far as i could throw him because he is prone to moral cowardice and an easy life.

Two years ago he could have submitted a proposal to parliament that catholic adoption agencies be still allowed to only proceed with adoptions to single gays and lesbians and married couples - whereas gay couples could be forwarded to other agencies - it's simple enough - whether gays or lesbians met partners subsequently was none of our business - but if they had a partner at the time we could not give joint adoption rights to them both.
It was simple, and it would have been waved through - because technically there would be no discrimination - and should a couple later decide to jointly adopt a child adopted by one of them that would be a governmental thing and nothing to do with the catholic agencies.

instead - what does that damned idiot cardinal do? he tries to blackmail the cabinet !!!

he had no chance of winning at all, it was a ridiculous position for the cardinal to place both the church and the government in.

it's not the first time I've wanted to shove the cardinal's head down the toilet and flush, and I dare say it won't be the last.