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Fake bombs planted in Boston

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Sel Appa
31-01-2007, 23:49
Good, this just shows that Americans are paranoid. The only city that will ever be attacked by terrorists is New York City, and it won't be as "suspicious" and noticeable as "ordinary packages" with "wires sticking out".

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices)

BOSTON - At least seven suspicious devices planted near bridges and other spots around Boston forced the shutdown of major roads, a bridge and a stretch of the Charles River on Wednesday before authorities concluded the objects were not bombs.

"It's a hoax — and it's not funny," said Gov. Deval Patrick.

The exact nature of the objects was not disclosed. But authorities said some looked like circuit boards or had wires hanging from them.

The first device was found at a subway and bus station underneath Interstate 93, forcing the shutdown of the station and the highway.

Later, police said four calls, all around 1 p.m., reported devices at the Boston University Bridge and the Longfellow Bridge, both of which span the Charles River, at a Boston street corner and at the Tufts-New England Medical Center.

The package near the Boston University bridge was found attached to a structure beneath the span, authorities said.

Subway service across the Longfellow Bridge between Boston and Cambridge was briefly suspended, and Storrow Drive was closed as well.

Gail Marcinkiewicz, a spokeswoman for the
FBI in Boston, said: "There's no nexus to terrorism here, I can tell you that."
Morganatron
31-01-2007, 23:52
Apparently they were in other cities as well, L.A., New York, etc. They're talking about it on NPR right now.
Arthais101
31-01-2007, 23:52
Good, this just shows that Americans are paranoid. The only city that will ever be attacked by terrorists is New York City, and it won't be as "suspicious" and noticeable as "ordinary packages" with "wires sticking out".

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices)

if you think the only major city in the US is NYC you're idiotic. Boston is a major city center.

Speaking as a Bostonian, I'm quite glad the police investigated this as vigorously as they did.
Farnhamia
31-01-2007, 23:54
if you think the only major city in the US is NYC you're idiotic. Boston is a major city center.

Speaking as a Bostonian, I'm quite glad the police investigated this as vigorously as they did.

Jeez, they win one World Series every 86 years, suddenly they're a major city center.

I agree, the police should have investigated thoroughly.
Psychotic Mongooses
31-01-2007, 23:55
Back in the day it was called "Being prepared". Now? "Hoax".

Pffft. Lack of Cub scout training, that's what I blame it on.
Arthais101
31-01-2007, 23:56
Jeez, they win one World Series every 86 years, suddenly they're a major city center.

I agree, the police should have investigated thoroughly.

hehe. And the prudential center. And a dozen colleges and universities. And the Moakly Courthouse.
Nadkor
31-01-2007, 23:57
We've had three or four "fake bomb" plantings in the last week or so. Don't see us making a fuss about it :p
Drunk commies deleted
31-01-2007, 23:59
Good, this just shows that Americans are paranoid. The only city that will ever be attacked by terrorists is New York City, and it won't be as "suspicious" and noticeable as "ordinary packages" with "wires sticking out".

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices)

That's not being paranoid, it's being prepared. It looks like a bomb for fuck's sake! Should we just ignore any bomb-like objects we happen to see and risk having dozens of people blown up? It would take someone deeply mentally retarded to ignore such a thing.
Morganatron
31-01-2007, 23:59
We've had three or four "fake bomb" plantings in the last week or so. Don't see us making a fuss about it :p

Well, yeah. These fake bombs had been around for a week or two as well.
Johnny B Goode
31-01-2007, 23:59
Good, this just shows that Americans are paranoid. The only city that will ever be attacked by terrorists is New York City, and it won't be as "suspicious" and noticeable as "ordinary packages" with "wires sticking out".

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices)

What the hell? I live near Boston.
Psychotic Mongooses
01-02-2007, 00:00
We've had three or four "fake bomb" plantings in the last week or so. Don't see us making a fuss about it :p

Yes, but you're different. You see, you....em.... shut up alright! You're throwing off the whole 'terrorism' example. :p
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 00:01
NYC is the only major major city of the US and therefore the main one prone to terrorism. The WTC there was attacked twice. Buildings there are continuously targeted. It's a huge population centre and people flow in and out all the time, making it easy to disguise oneself. Ask anyone from a remote foreign country and the only American city they'll know is NYC. when you think of the US, you think of NYC. It's old and cost only $25 of beads. ;)
Nadkor
01-02-2007, 00:01
Well, yeah. These fake bombs had been around for a week or two as well.

Yea, like I said, you don't see us making a fuss about it ;)
Morganatron
01-02-2007, 00:04
NYC is the only major major city of the US and therefore the main one prone to terrorism. The WTC there was attacked twice. Buildings there are continuously targeted. It's a huge population centre and people flow in and out all the time, making it easy to disguise oneself. Ask anyone from a remote foreign country and the only American city they'll know is NYC. when you think of the US, you think of NYC. It's old and cost only $25 of beads. ;)

Right, because cities like Los Angeles and Chicago are just small hick towns. And nobody ever heard of New Orleans pre-Katrina. :rolleyes:
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:04
hehe. And the prudential center. And a dozen colleges and universities. And the Moakly Courthouse.

:D You can take the occasional jest about the Red Sox, now can't you? (http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2005-06/18038408.jpg)
Zarakon
01-02-2007, 00:04
That's kinda funny. I always thought it would be funny to leave a note like "7 days" at a school or an abortion clinic. Next day 6 days, after that 5 days, etc. Watch them gear up, expecting a bomb attack or something and...


"HEY GUYS! IT'S BEEN EXACTLY A WEEK SINCE THE FIRST NOTE SHOWED UP"

That's what the seven days led up to. A note reading that.
Nadkor
01-02-2007, 00:04
Yes, but you're different. You see, you....em.... shut up alright! You're throwing off the whole 'terrorism' example. :p

Well, I was more expecting the old "yea, but you're from Belfast, bombs are commonplace" thing from somebody, but that'll do :p
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:05
Right, because cities like Los Angeles and Chicago are just small hick towns. And nobody ever heard of New Orleans pre-Katrina. :rolleyes:

Oh, I'd heard of New Orleans before Katrina. :p
No Mans Land Paradise
01-02-2007, 00:06
Good, this just shows that Americans are paranoid. The only city that will ever be attacked by terrorists is New York City, and it won't be as "suspicious" and noticeable as "ordinary packages" with "wires sticking out".

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices)

So, Americans are paranoid because Law Enforcement investigated suspicious packages vigorously. Okay. :rolleyes:

Just because New York City is the Largest City in America doesn't mean it's the only city the terrorists are targeting.

Rank/ City/ State/ Population:
1 New York City, New York 8,143,197
2 Los Angeles, California 3,844,829
3 Chicago, Illinois 2,842,518
4 Houston, Texas 2,016,582
5 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1,463,281
6 Phoenix, Arizona 1,461,575
7 San Antonio, Texas 1,256,509
8 San Diego, California 1,255,540
9 Dallas, Texas 1,213,825
10 San Jose, California 912,332

http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/tables/SUB-EST2005-01.xls

Looks like a lot of other potential populated targets to me.
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:06
NYC is the only major major city of the US

Nonsensical. NYC, Boston, Chicago, LA, Houston, Miami, Atlanta....all major city hubs
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 00:08
They were fucking Mooninites. People in Boston need to smoke weed and watch Cartoon Network more.
Morganatron
01-02-2007, 00:09
<snip>
Looks like a lot of other potential populated targets to me.

They can have Phoenix.
SocialistBlues
01-02-2007, 00:10
Interesting. According to you, terrorists have a fetish for New Yorkers but couldn't care less about Bostonians. Furthermore, possibly explosive devices shouldn't be investigated -- the police should wait until a package is detonated and people die before the matter is looked into. After all, it's not like we're paying tax money so that the police can protect us! :rolleyes:
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:13
and of course it always has to be scary turban wearing, beard growing ARAB terrorists.

No such thing as DOMESTIC terrorists. God knows we've never had an AMERICAN terrorist, and CERTAINLY not one who may have...I dunno, had ties to the boston area, perhaps gone to university in the area?

*cough* unibomber *cough*
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 00:13
This is what had everyone so terrified.

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_031105805/lg

DA MOON RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Nuke Testgrounds
01-02-2007, 00:14
Why is there no "Explosive Pie" option?
Rubiconic Crossings
01-02-2007, 00:15
NYC is the only major major city of the US and therefore the main one prone to terrorism. The WTC there was attacked twice. Buildings there are continuously targeted. It's a huge population centre and people flow in and out all the time, making it easy to disguise oneself. Ask anyone from a remote foreign country and the only American city they'll know is NYC. when you think of the US, you think of NYC. It's old and cost only $25 of beads. ;)

Or LA... LOL
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:15
and of course it always has to be scary turban wearing, beard growing ARAB terrorists.

No such thing as DOMESTIC terrorists. God knows we've never had an AMERICAN terrorist, and CERTAINLY not one who may have...I dunno, had ties to the boston area, perhaps gone to university in the area?

*cough* unibomber *cough*

It's interesting, though, that Tim McVeigh set off his bomb in Oklahoma City, not in NYC or Boston or one of the larger urban areas. Couldn't deal with driving in Manhattan, I suppose.
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:15
This is what had everyone so terrified.

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_031105805/lg

DA MOON RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!

you are the moon master!
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:17
It's interesting, though, that Tim McVeigh set off his bomb in Oklahoma City, not in NYC or Boston or one of the larger urban areas. Couldn't deal with driving in Manhattan, I suppose.

manhattan? Feh, try Storrow drive at 8am around the big dig. Which is the major reason why a terrorist attack will never happen in boston, despite it being a major city.

You can't fucking get anywhere.
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:18
manhattan? Feh, try Storrow drive at 8am around the big dig. Which is the major reason why a terrorist attack will never happen in boston, despite it being a major city.

You can't fucking get anywhere.

I was going to say Boston but I don't know the city that well, except that it's not laid out in a grid like parts of NYC. I do seem to recall that the subway trains come up out of the ground and eat illegally parked cars.
No Mans Land Paradise
01-02-2007, 00:20
NYC is the only major major city of the US and therefore the main one prone to terrorism. The WTC there was attacked twice. Buildings there are continuously targeted. It's a huge population centre and people flow in and out all the time, making it easy to disguise oneself. Ask anyone from a remote foreign country and the only American city they'll know is NYC. when you think of the US, you think of NYC. It's old and cost only $25 of beads. ;)

Heck, this may explain the world's hate for America, now I understand. :p
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:21
I was going to say Boston but I don't know the city that well, except that it's not laid out in a grid like parts of NYC. I do seem to recall that the subway trains come up out of the ground and eat illegally parked cars.

technically they're trams, and that's only the green line that runs at street level. The red, blue, and orange lines are proper subways.

And no, it's not a grid in the slightest. Downtown boston is horrendous.
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:21
Heck, this may explain the world's hate for America, now I understand. :p

Meh, you've obviously never been to New York.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-02-2007, 00:23
*cough* unibomber *cough*
Did he bomb Harvard? :eek: ;p
No Mans Land Paradise
01-02-2007, 00:25
Meh, you've obviously never been to New York.

Your assessment would be correct.

I was only being sarcastic or attempting to be funny.

I'll go back to my lurking.
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:27
Did he bomb Harvard? :eek: ;p

no, he went there.
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:29
no, he went there.

He did send a bomb to someone at Yale, though.

Interestingly, it's not "UnIbomber" but "UnAbomber". Means "University & Airline Bomber" and was what the FBI started calling him after a while. He sent bombs to a number of airline execs, too.
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:29
Your assessment would be correct.

I was only being sarcastic or attempting to be funny.

I'll go back to my lurking.

Don't let me drive you off. I, too, was being sarcastic.
Morganatron
01-02-2007, 00:30
Did he bomb Harvard? :eek: ;p

The Car Talk guys gave him some bad info. He wanted revenge.
Soviestan
01-02-2007, 00:32
We've had three or four "fake bomb" plantings in the last week or so. Don't see us making a fuss about it :p

Thats because Americans are paraniod that the evil Muslims are going to blow them up.
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:32
The Car Talk guys gave him some bad info. He wanted revenge.

Frick and Frack? They'd never steer you wrong!
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:34
Frick and Frack? They'd never steer you wrong!

horrible pun.

I went to college with frack's son.
Morganatron
01-02-2007, 00:34
Frick and Frack? They'd never steer you wrong!

They can't steer at all!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-02-2007, 00:35
no, he went there.

He did send a bomb to someone at Yale, though.

Interestingly, it's not "UnIbomber" but "UnAbomber". Means "University & Airline Bomber" and was what the FBI started calling him after a while. He sent bombs to a number of airline execs, too.
Aw, people, come on! I actually put a white text smiley! The only reason I wrote the post was to poke fun at Arthais misspelling it. Sheesh.

The only one being funny is Morganatron:
The Car Talk guys gave him some bad info. He wanted revenge. - but of course this time I fail, not knowing who the Car Talk guys are. :(

Something in this thread is proving fatal for humor and sarcasm. Interesting...
No Mans Land Paradise
01-02-2007, 00:36
Thats because Americans are paraniod that the evil Muslims are going to blow them up.

We aren't paranoid that the evil Muslims are going to blow us up. We pay the Law Enforcement agencies through our taxes to "Protect and Serve" Suspicious packages are seen and are checked out. I suppose our authority figures could have said it was just a hoax at first and said the hell with it and then what if it was a real bomb...Then they'd say "oops, our bad" I personally prefer the checking it out part.
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 00:37
Something in this thread is proving fatal for humor and sarcasm. Interesting...

It was hit with the Quad-Laser. You cannot escape its power.
Arthais101
01-02-2007, 00:39
It was hit with the Quad-Laser. You cannot escape its power.

fire the quad laser!
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:41
horrible pun.

I went to college with frack's son.
All puns should have a tinge of horror about them, just as all limericks should obscene.

They can't steer at all!
:D

Aw, people, come on! I actually put a white text smiley! The only reason I wrote the post was to poke fun at Arthais misspelling it. Sheesh.

The only one being funny is Morganatron:
- but of course this time I fail, not knowing who the Car Talk guys are. :(

Something in this thread is proving fatal for humor and sarcasm. Interesting...
I have never developed the habit of looking for white text, so I fail. :(

Car Talk (http://cartalk.com/). These guys are very, very funny. You can tell, because they spend half their show laughing at themselves. :D
Dosuun
01-02-2007, 00:41
Ha Ha!

Good for whoever did it. The paranoid deserve to be scared shitless by something harmless.
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 00:43
fire the quad laser!

http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/athfpics/feel_the_quad_glazer.jpg
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-02-2007, 00:47
I have never developed the habit of looking for white text, so I fail. :( Nooooooooooo, wrong answer. You should have said "Ah, of course, even though I have never developed the habit of looking for white text I should of course have known that, seeing how it is you doing the asking, the question couldn't possibly be seriously that stupid and hence must have been asked for ulterior motives."

:(

Car Talk (http://cartalk.com/). These guys are very, very funny. You can tell, because they spend half their show laughing at themselves. :D Heh, from skimming some of their advice, they sound like my kind of car guys. :p What do they have to do with Harvard, though? (Or am I still being thick? <.<)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-02-2007, 00:48
http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/athfpics/feel_the_quad_glazer.jpgImage hosted by angelfire. :(
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 00:50
Nooooooooooo, wrong answer. You should have said "Ah, of course, even though I have never developed the habit of looking for white text I should of course have known that, seeing how it is you doing the asking, the question couldn't possibly be seriously that stupid and hence must have been asked for ulterior motives."

:(

:(

Heh, from skimming some of their advice, they sound like my kind of car guys. :p What do they have to do with Harvard, though? (Or am I still being thick? <.<)
They broke down once outside Harvard Yard. No, they're from Boston.

At the end of the show they have strange credits. My favorite was "And our Intensive Care Unit, run by Picabo Street, know as the Picabo ICU." I always giggle over that one.
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 00:52
Image hosted by angelfire. :(

http://www.mcpeepants.com/pics/thumbs/tn_quadlaser1.gif
How about now?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-02-2007, 00:52
They broke down once outside Harvard Yard. :rolleyes: :p
No, they're from Boston.Ah, thanks. =)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-02-2007, 00:53
http://www.mcpeepants.com/pics/thumbs/tn_quadlaser1.gif
How about now?
Now there's a line of blank space above the "How about now?". In my browser, at least.
CthulhuFhtagn
01-02-2007, 01:02
How about now?

There's this thing called ImageShack. Use it.
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 01:03
So, Americans are paranoid because Law Enforcement investigated suspicious packages vigorously. Okay. :rolleyes:

Just because New York City is the Largest City in America doesn't mean it's the only city the terrorists are targeting.

Rank/ City/ State/ Population:
1 New York City, New York 8,143,197
2 Los Angeles, California 3,844,829
3 Chicago, Illinois 2,842,518
4 Houston, Texas 2,016,582
5 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1,463,281
6 Phoenix, Arizona 1,461,575
7 San Antonio, Texas 1,256,509
8 San Diego, California 1,255,540
9 Dallas, Texas 1,213,825
10 San Jose, California 912,332

http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/tables/SUB-EST2005-01.xls

Looks like a lot of other potential populated targets to me.

Terrorists are unlikely to attack a city in the interior. Terrorists are more likely to attack the East Coast. NYC FTW

It's interesting, though, that Tim McVeigh set off his bomb in Oklahoma City, not in NYC or Boston or one of the larger urban areas. Couldn't deal with driving in Manhattan, I suppose.

Domestic Terrorists are not a major concern.
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 01:04
There's this thing called ImageShack. Use it.

Use it yourself. I see them on my screen.
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 01:04
There's this thing called ImageShack. Use it.

I hate imageshack. It doesn't let you look at the rest of the person's stuff like photobucket does.
Farnhamia
01-02-2007, 01:05
Terrorists are unlikely to attack a city in the interior. Terrorists are more likely to attack the East Coast. NYC FTW



Domestic Terrorists are not a major concern.

You didn't actually notice that no one's responded seriously to this since about post #5?
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 01:06
Here's a better picture of what everyone was pissing themselves over in Boston. Like I said, these people need to smoke more weed and watch more Cartoon Network.

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070131/070131_boston_hlarg_3p.hlarge.jpg
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 01:09
You didn't actually notice that no one's responded seriously to this since about post #5?

Hm?
JuNii
01-02-2007, 01:09
if you think the only major city in the US is NYC you're idiotic. Boston is a major city center.

Speaking as a Bostonian, I'm quite glad the police investigated this as vigorously as they did.
agreed. I hope all cities take such things seriously... and those who planted those fake bombs hauled off to gitmo for some... questioning...

Prank calls to 911 are illegal. Activating Fire Alarms without proper reason is also illegal. calling in bomb threats is illegal.
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 01:11
agreed. I hope all cities take such things seriously... and those who planted those fake bombs hauled off to gitmo for some... questioning...

Prank calls to 911 are illegal. Activating Fire Alarms without proper reason is also illegal. calling in bomb threats is illegal.

I'm looking for the sarcasm tag or the smiley and I'm not seeing it. What gives?
JuNii
01-02-2007, 01:16
I'm looking for the sarcasm tag or the smiley and I'm not seeing it. What gives?
I work in data security. I hate Viruses, and I hate the Hoaxes that go around.

I personally feel that people who create viruses should be treated as terrorists.


but for these... they purposely left bomb-like objects all over the place... why? for a joke? a prank? a waste of resources and manpower?

thus, they (the 'bomb' planters) should be treated like terrorists.

maybe Gitmo is extreme, but I hate these type of 'Pranks'


also, do people realize that for each of these "pranks", you will see a tightening of security and more removal of 'Freedoms'. as long as such pranksters continue their hobbies, homeland security won't go away and items like the Patriot Act will only get stronger.
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 01:18
I work in data security. I hate Viruses, and I hate the Hoaxes that go around.

I personally feel that people who create viruses should be treated as terrorists.


but for these... they purposely left bomb-like objects all over the place... why? for a joke? a prank? a waste of resources and manpower?

thus, they (the 'bomb' planters) should be treated like terrorists.

maybe Gitmo is extreme, but I hate these type of 'Pranks'

Read the rest of the thread--it was an advertising campaign that's been going on in several cities. It's not a prank. It's a case of Boston police losing their minds for some reason.
CthulhuFhtagn
01-02-2007, 01:25
I hate imageshack. It doesn't let you look at the rest of the person's stuff like photobucket does.

It does. You just have to know how to do it, and, more importantly, the person has to make it so it can be done.
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 01:30
It does. You just have to know how to do it, and, more importantly, the person has to make it so it can be done.

LIAR! How...
Icovir
01-02-2007, 01:32
Good, this just shows that Americans are paranoid. The only city that will ever be attacked by terrorists is New York City, and it won't be as "suspicious" and noticeable as "ordinary packages" with "wires sticking out".

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices)

I live very close to there, and I wasn't scared in the least bit...
CthulhuFhtagn
01-02-2007, 01:34
LIAR! How...

Got to know the username for their public profile.
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 01:36
NYC is the only major major city of the US and therefore the main one prone to terrorism. The WTC there was attacked twice. Buildings there are continuously targeted. It's a huge population centre and people flow in and out all the time, making it easy to disguise oneself. Ask anyone from a remote foreign country and the only American city they'll know is NYC. when you think of the US, you think of NYC. It's old and cost only $25 of beads. ;)Uh huh...and New Yorkers wonder why Bostonians hate them. Hint: We aren't jealous.

Domestic Terrorists are not a major concern.Funny, and here I thought they had carried out several major attacks...abortion clinic bombings, church bombings, Oklahoma City, Atlanta, Unabomber...

I'm looking for the sarcasm tag or the smiley and I'm not seeing it. What gives?So just because it has a cartoon image painted on it, we should ignore it?
Yes, it happened in several cities. When the initial calls went in, there was no evidence of that. Additionally, terrorist attacks HAVE happened in multiple cities at once. Now, I'm not big on panicing over nothing, but I would much rather have the police check it out rather than having the bridge I walk on daily blown up.

Incidentally, I didn't hear about this untill around 4 today...up untill then, I had no idea why my commute was so delayed.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 02:04
Read the rest of the thread--it was an advertising campaign that's been going on in several cities. It's not a prank. It's a case of Boston police losing their minds for some reason.

kinda like the radio dj that held up traffic for a Haircut?

were these "Ads" following standard advertisement rules that each city has? Most cities have laws limiting where ads can be placed.

were these adds marked in such a way to let people know they were ads?
Apparently not.

they were hoaxes, pranks and did not identify what they were advertising.

a local company here in Hawaii did a similar thing, encouraging people to post where they put their company stickers. stickers started showing up on freeway overpass signs, public and private property, even traffic Cams used to monitor traffic. these "advertisments" were vandalism and also against Hawaii's anti-billboard laws. the company was forced to cease and desist or face charges.

all they were doing was also advertising...
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 02:08
kinda like the radio dj that held up traffic for a Haircut?

were these "Ads" following standard advertisement rules that each city has? Most cities have laws limiting where ads can be placed.

were these adds marked in such a way to let people know they were ads?
Apparently not.

they were hoaxes, pranks and did not identify what they were advertising.

a local company here in Hawaii did a similar thing, encouraging people to post where they put their company stickers. stickers started showing up on freeway overpass signs, public and private property, even traffic Cams used to monitor traffic. these "advertisments" were vandalism and also against Hawaii's anti-billboard laws. the company was forced to cease and desist or face charges.

all they were doing was also advertising...
not to mention, they were placed in areas that are difficult to see. The one near me was strapped to the BU Bridge over the masspike. Yeah, people are going to easily notice a little black box at the top of a support wall.

So, why place an ad in a place where few people would see it, but one or two might? The cynical side of me says to make the news and get press for it.
Icovir
01-02-2007, 02:13
Funny, and here I thought they had carried out several major attacks...abortion clinic bombings, church bombings, Oklahoma City, Atlanta, Unabomber...

The official United States definition of a domestic terrorist as per the Patriot Act (ugh) is a person who disobeys the laws of his/her community, even if it is slight.

Therefore, I am a terrorist for littering, J-Walking, eating all the cookies (disobeying your parents when you're under 18 is against the law), and all that stupid insignificant stuff.
IL Ruffino
01-02-2007, 02:19
The official United States definition of a domestic terrorist as per the Patriot Act (ugh) is a person who disobeys the laws of his/her community, even if it is slight.

Therefore, I am a terrorist for littering, J-Walking, eating all the cookies (disobeying your parents when you're under 18 is against the law), and all that stupid insignificant stuff.

.. so I'm a terrorist?
JuNii
01-02-2007, 02:24
.. so I'm a terrorist?

only if you ADMIT to doing those things...
IL Ruffino
01-02-2007, 02:28
only if you ADMIT to doing those things...

*destroies all evidence*
JuNii
01-02-2007, 02:29
*destroies all evidence*

that's Destruction of Property! :eek:
Neesika
01-02-2007, 02:33
I think the US has good reason to be paranoid, and NOT investigating this would have been total stupidity.
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 02:34
I think the US has good reason to be paranoid, and NOT investigating this would have been total stupidity.

hell, I think everyone has a right to be atleast a little paranoid...if there is a suspicious box somewhere, I think it is stupid not to check it out
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 02:38
UPDATE FTW!

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070131/us_nm/security_boston_dc)

BOSTON (Reuters) - Turner Broadcasting apologized on Wednesday for a marketing campaign that sparked Boston's biggest security scare since the September 11, 2001, attacks -- closing bridges, shutting major roads and putting hundreds of police on alert.

The day-long scare began when a suspicious package was found on a steel beam under a bridge in the morning. Police stopped traffic on a major interstate highway north of Boston, cordoned off the area, deployed a bomb squad and blew it up.

By afternoon, at least eight other similar suspicious packages were discovered, each triggering a security alert involving emergency crews, federal agents, bomb squads, police and the
U.S. Coast Guard.

"The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger," Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said in statement.

It said the devices were part of an outdoor marketing campaign in 10 American cities for an animated television show "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" produced by its Adult Swim brand.

They had been in place for two to three weeks in Boston, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, Seattle, Portland, Austin, San Francisco, and Philadelphia.

"We regret that they were mistakenly thought to pose any danger," said Turner, adding that it had contacted law enforcement officials to give them the precise locations of the packages.

The discoveries in Boston triggered the biggest city-wide security alert since the September 11, 2001, attacks.

It forced the U.S. Coast Guard to close the Charles River that feeds from the Atlantic Ocean into the city and caused authorities to shut down major bridges linking Boston with neighboring Cambridge along with several roads.

"This has taken a significant toll on our resources," Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis told reporters.

The packages looked roughly similar, he said.

"We feel there is not a reason for anyone to panic," Gov. Deval Patrick told a news conference before Turner released its statement widely to the media.

Four of the packages were discovered near the New England Medical Center, the Longfellow Bridge that connects Boston with Cambridge, the Boston University Bridge and at an intersection in central Boston.

"All were found not to be explosive devices," said Boston Police Department spokesman Eddy Chrispin.
Neesika
01-02-2007, 02:39
hell, I think everyone has a right to be atleast a little paranoid...if there is a suspicious box somewhere, I think it is stupid not to check it out

I agree, and I am very glad this turned out to be nothing.

*sends love to Boston*
IL Ruffino
01-02-2007, 02:45
that's Destruction of Property! :eek:

CRAP! :(
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 02:45
I agree, and I am very glad this turned out to be nothing.

*sends love to Boston*

*accepts love and reciprocates*
Dobbsworld
01-02-2007, 02:46
I misread the title at first glance. I'd thought it read, 'Baked goods planted in Boston'.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 02:47
CRAP! :(

LITTERING! :eek: :eek:


:p :D :D :D :D
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 02:52
I misread the title at first glance. I'd thought it read, 'Baked goods planted in Boston'.

mmm...I hope they're cannolis from Mike's Pastry (http://www.mikespastry.com/cannoli.html)....
Neesika
01-02-2007, 02:53
I misread the title at first glance. I'd thought it read, 'Baked goods planted in Boston'.

Baked Goods From the Interior of BC.
IL Ruffino
01-02-2007, 03:00
LITTERING! :eek: :eek:


:p :D :D :D :D

*goes to gitmo*
JuNii
01-02-2007, 03:02
*goes to gitmo*

*Pulls him off the plane*
they didn't arrest you yet. wait till your number's called first. :p

they get angry if they can't do the whole "Track em down" routine.
Domici
01-02-2007, 03:02
if you think the only major city in the US is NYC you're idiotic. Boston is a major city center.

Speaking as a Bostonian, I'm quite glad the police investigated this as vigorously as they did.

*pats Arthais sympatheticly on the back* Of course it is. Don't listen to him.
Neesika
01-02-2007, 03:03
Well I'd go to Boston over NYC any day :D
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 03:09
Well I'd go to Boston over NYC any day :D

:p

We'd be more than glad to have you
The Psyker
01-02-2007, 03:13
http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/tables/SUB-EST2005-01.xls

Looks like a lot of other potential populated targets to me.

Hey sweet, we beat Miami, Minneapolis, and St. Louis, cool.:cool:
IL Ruffino
01-02-2007, 03:14
Well I'd go to Boston over NYC any day :D

Lobster rolls > Hotdogs :p

/me drinks more
Sel Appa
01-02-2007, 03:16
Well I'd go to Boston over NYC any day :D

I hate NY, but NYC>Boston any day.
Pantera
01-02-2007, 03:21
No one will ever know how much joy it brings me to know that the moon has defeated Boston. An online friend said she was stuck in traffic for a good long time, waiting for this mess to be cleared up. Fucking people.

Mooninites>Boston
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 03:23
No one will ever know how much joy it brings me to know that the moon has defeated Boston. An online friend said she was stuck in traffic for a good long time, waiting for this mess to be cleared up. Fucking people.

Mooninites>Boston
There is always traffic. Welcome to Boston.

This just didn't help any.

I'm curious how much was lost by shutting down the Charles for the day
Pepe Dominguez
01-02-2007, 04:27
Are these the same "bombs" that Drudgereport has a photo of? The Mooninites from Aqua Teen Hunger Force? Because I think the whole thing is hilarious. Those things would dissapear from the evidence room if I were a cop.. :p
Katganistan
01-02-2007, 04:28
NYC is the only major major city of the US and therefore the main one prone to terrorism. The WTC there was attacked twice. Buildings there are continuously targeted. It's a huge population centre and people flow in and out all the time, making it easy to disguise oneself. Ask anyone from a remote foreign country and the only American city they'll know is NYC. when you think of the US, you think of NYC. It's old and cost only $25 of beads. ;)

As much as I love NYC (born and bred here, baby!) there ARE other important, major cities in the country -- a LOT of them.
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 04:29
Are these the same "bombs" that Drudgereport has a photo of? The Mooninites from Aqua Teen Hunger Force? Because I think the whole thing is hilarious. Those things would dissapear from the evidence room if I were a cop.. :p

I'm not gonna lie. I want one.
Rignezia
01-02-2007, 04:32
Well I could think of other major port cities that would hurt America more to be hit, but one of them already got wiped out, and a few of the others are surrounded by naval bases.

CN and Turner should have to foot the bill for this, on top of massive fines, and the people who planned this should face criminal charges. This is a case of a company stepping way over the line, and there should be hell to pay.
Icovir
01-02-2007, 04:48
CN and Turner should have to foot the bill for this, on top of massive fines, and the people who planned this should face criminal charges. This is a case of a company stepping way over the line, and there should be hell to pay.

I wasn't aware that advertising your product was stepping over the line. This is simply what happens when post 9/11 America meets with an advertisement that wasn't talked about.
Rignezia
01-02-2007, 04:54
So, setting up these devices on public ground without informing anyone or getting permission is not irresponsible? Because of their publicity stunt, thousands of people have lost money, and Boston has lost money that people provided via tax, not to mention you pull away emergency resources and caused a panic that could have harmed people - in my mind, that is a serious issue. If a random person can be expected to be held liable for doing something like this, so should a company - companies are not above the law.
The Psyker
01-02-2007, 04:55
So, setting up these devices on public ground without informing anyone or getting permission is not irresponsible? Because of their publicity stunt, thousands of people have lost money, and Boston has lost money that people provided via tax, not to mention you pull away emergency resources and caused a panic that could have harmed people - in my mind, that is a serious issue. If a random person can be expected to be held liable for doing something like this, so should a company - companies are not above the law.Don't be silly this is america, of course they are.;)
Teh_pantless_hero
01-02-2007, 04:58
Bombs my ass, unless terrorists are big fans of ATHF and are fucking stupid, it's pretty obvious it was an advertising scheme. Lights in the shape of the moon guys from ATHF in public places are not good ways to hide your "bombs."
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 05:16
So, setting up these devices on public ground without informing anyone or getting permission is not irresponsible? Because of their publicity stunt, thousands of people have lost money, and Boston has lost money that people provided via tax, not to mention you pull away emergency resources and caused a panic that could have harmed people - in my mind, that is a serious issue. If a random person can be expected to be held liable for doing something like this, so should a company - companies are not above the law.

I saw video of these on CNN--they were lighting up. They were pictures of Inignok giving the finger. Don't you think, as part of the "investigation," someone might have called Turner, seeing as it had one of their characters on it? The overreaction doesn't happen if people just look at it and ask a question or two, instead of immediately calling out the goddamn bomb squad.
Lacadaemon
01-02-2007, 05:33
ignignokt: some would say the earth is our moon
err: we're the moon
ignignokt: that would belittle the name of our moon, which is the moon
err: point is that were at the center, not you
carl: no the real point is i don't give a damn
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 05:33
Bombs my ass, unless terrorists are big fans of ATHF and are fucking stupid, it's pretty obvious it was an advertising scheme. Lights in the shape of the moon guys from ATHF in public places are not good ways to hide your "bombs."

I saw video of these on CNN--they were lighting up. They were pictures of Inignok giving the finger. Don't you think, as part of the "investigation," someone might have called Turner, seeing as it had one of their characters on it? The overreaction doesn't happen if people just look at it and ask a question or two, instead of immediately calling out the goddamn bomb squad.
to address both, not everyone watches Aqua Teen. Not everyone even knows it, or adult swim, exist.

Additionally, yes. They lit up. AT NIGHT. this happened today...during the day.

They were placed in sensitive areas (the bridges connecting Boston and Cambridge are vital to both cities, and would have high fatalities, the T is used by millions of commuters, major highways, etc)

Why did it take Turner untill 5pm to say anything?
New Foxxinnia
01-02-2007, 05:45
If this wasn't the news story of the year this would have been the worse ad campaign ever. LEDs in a pattern of a television character from a show with a 1 million viewer fan base. The only people who would recognize it would be the people that watch ATHF. Others would have no idea was this purple thing flicking them off would be, and would be unable to find out due to lack of any wording. Advertising that doesn't draw in new customers is really shitty advertising.

Still, complaining about the traffic in Boston is like complaining about the rain in Seattle.
Wallonochia
01-02-2007, 05:53
As much as I love NYC (born and bred here, baby!) there ARE other important, major cities in the country -- a LOT of them.

You've given me a small bit of faith in New Yorkers. Now we know that at least of you doesn't believe the limits of NYC to be the limits of the universe.

*snip Census stuff*

I guess I didn't realize that Detroit had fallen so far. They peaked at over 1.6 million in the 50s, and now they're under 900,000. :(
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-02-2007, 06:57
I'm sorry, but mistaking an electronic sign for an IED is pretty damned retarted. Regardless if it lights up only at night.
Teh_pantless_hero
01-02-2007, 06:59
to address both, not everyone watches Aqua Teen. Not everyone even knows it, or adult swim, exist.

Additionally, yes. They lit up. AT NIGHT. this happened today...during the day.
And they were still lights, in the shape of ATHF characters.

They were placed in sensitive areas
In plain sight? Great bomb hiding there.

Why did it take Turner untill 5pm to say anything?
The story didn't break until like 4PM anyway.
Why they needed to say anything is beyond me. Why didn't the other nine cities they were in say anything?


"I saw the bomb squad guys carrying a paper bag with their bare hands," Higgins said. "I knew it couldn't be too serious."
Apparently the bomb squad realized they were really dangerous bombs, instead of ILBD - improvised light-brite devices.
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-02-2007, 07:02
And they were still lights, in the shape of ATHF characters.

*snip*

Apparently the bomb squad realized they were really dangerous bombs, instead of ILBD - improvised light-brite devices.

kek. i love how stupid people can be. i mean, even when the thing is off, you would notice that the thing lights up at night, just like an LED light.

unless, of course, you live in Boston.
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 07:15
I'm sorry, but mistaking an electronic sign for an IED is pretty damned retarted. Regardless if it lights up only at night.You mean that electronic devices can only do one specific task? And that someone could never concievably wire lights AND an explosive deivce into one system?
Amazing. If I wanted to bomb someone, I just have to make it look happy and pretty.

And they were still lights, in the shape of ATHF characters.And clearly, a bomb could never have lights on it in a familiar shape, either as a signature of the attack or to make people think it was nothing.


In plain sight? Great bomb hiding there.sometimes the best hiding is in plain sight. Moreover, not all of them were easily seen. The one by me was pulled up in a way that you couldn't tell depth, or even really see clearly what it was beyond wires and pipes around a dark box


The story didn't break until like 4PM anyway.
Why they needed to say anything is beyond me. Why didn't the other nine cities they were in say anything?
Actually, the story broke very early. About half an hour after the first call.
And because the other cities didn't have someone confuse them for a bomb and set off something that cost the city and local business huge amounts, as well as halt millions of commuters.

Apparently the bomb squad realized they were really dangerous bombs, instead of ILBD - improvised light-brite devices.Hey...wait a second. You mean casual passer-bys, drivers, and people on a subway train might not get a great look at something? And might not want to walk up to something that looks suspicious to them?
And maybe, just maybe, a police officer might have gotten close enough to realize what it was?
Shocking concepts, I know. I can hardly believe them myself.

kek. i love how stupid people can be. i mean, even when the thing is off, you would notice that the thing lights up at night, just like an LED light.

unless, of course, you live in Boston.
See above.
Teh_pantless_hero
01-02-2007, 07:19
And clearly, a bomb could never have lights on it in a familiar shape, either as a signature of the attack or to make people think it was nothing.
Then they are the stupidest bombs ever - in the shape of light-up pop culture icons in plainly visible areas.


sometimes the best hiding is in plain sight.
Obviously because no one would see them and check what they were if they were in plain sight. :rolleyes:


And because the other cities didn't have someone confuse them for a bomb and set off something that cost the city and local business huge amounts, as well as halt millions of commuters.
Point. Set. Match.
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-02-2007, 07:21
Just a little backwards thinking, but maybe this whole deal was part of their advertising campaign? ;)
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-02-2007, 07:24
Hey...wait a second. You mean casual passer-bys, drivers, and people on a subway train might not get a great look at something? And might not want to walk up to something that looks suspicious to them?
And maybe, just maybe, a police officer might have gotten close enough to realize what it was?
Shocking concepts, I know. I can hardly believe them myself.

The bomb squad took one away, not even hidden by a bag or anything like that, and people arent supposed to realize this thing is just a LiteBrite with a battery on the bottom? You don't even have to take a "good look" at it to see that a) theres a battery on the bottom of it and b) there are LEDs sticking out of it.

When was the last time you saw some terrorist making a bomb shaped like Elmo?!
Teh_pantless_hero
01-02-2007, 07:29
When was the last time you saw some terrorist making a bomb shaped like Elmo?!

Obviously you have never heard of the infamous Sesame Street Bomber.
Coptic Kemet
01-02-2007, 07:35
Damn, I wondered why there were helicopters over my apartment all day! I personally think the ad campaign was innovative, just poorly executed. One of the displays was close enough to see from my window, so I'd much rather face the Quad Laser than pesky shrapnel. But Err wasn't around, so was that even a valid threat?
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 07:39
Then they are the stupidest bombs ever - in the shape of light-up pop culture icons in plainly visible areas.pop culture to 20-somethings. Not to the mass of commuters on the masspike (which, if I'm correctly informed, was the first reported) or going to a hospital (2nd, again, if I got the right information). And again, they weren't all easily seen, particularly the one under the BU bridge.



Obviously because no one would see them and check what they were if they were in plain sight. :rolleyes:Because you can easily get out of a car on one of the busiest highways (if not the busiest) in New England, climb up the walls of a bridge and inspect something. Right.


Point. Set. Match.Yes. no one reported them. Clearly, they were all strung in the same locations, and were all set up the same. Environment has nothing to do with perception.

Just a little backwards thinking, but maybe this whole deal was part of their advertising campaign? ;)Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised, and think it would have been brilliant if this was their intent. Brilliant with negative effects, but brilliant none the less.

The bomb squad took one away, not even hidden by a bag or anything like that, and people arent supposed to realize this thing is just a LiteBrite with a battery on the bottom? You don't even have to take a "good look" at it to see that a) theres a battery on the bottom of it and b) there are LEDs sticking out of it.Okay, lets try this. You are driving to work on a very busy highway. You go under a bridge. You see a black, rectangular shaped thing strung up with obvious wires, surrounded by pipes. It is at the top of the bridge, about 15' above your car. Your car is moving, although a little slowly, as it is stop and go traffic. In other words, one second you can see it, and then traffic moves 20 or 30', and suddenly, you can't see it.
Tell me, could you get a good look at it?

Or how about this. You're on a subway train. The train is making stops, traveling the tunnels as usual. You see a dark rectangle, again, with wires and pipes around it.
Did you get a good look before the train pulled out of the station?

When was the last time you saw some terrorist making a bomb shaped like Elmo?!Well, if you are trying to destroy something, which would be less suspicious...
this (http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~daveyp/nzTrip/blog/images/02-07-2006/homemade.jpg) or this (http://i.b5z.net/i/u/424807/i/elmo_doll_sesame_street_doll_200_75351.jpg)?
Which is more likely to accomplish its goal? Which is more likely to go more or less unnoticed and undisturbed?
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 07:42
Damn, I wondered why there were helicopters over my apartment all day! I personally think the ad campaign was innovative, just poorly executed. One of the displays was close enough to see from my window, so I'd much rather face the Quad Laser than pesky shrapnel. But Err wasn't around, so was that even a valid threat?
yeah...I had firetrucks all over, and had to take a 10 minute detour on my walk home because of it. Took me untill I got home to figure out what was going on when my roommate told me.
It pisses me off that they're calling it a hoax and a bomb threat. Neither are true, and both are weighted heavily to arouse anger out of people who are already pissed.
there were actually several by my apartment, and I loved them. I'll miss them. But some (the one under the bridge, in particular) were horribly executed.
OcceanDrive2
01-02-2007, 07:48
That's not being paranoid, it's being prepared. It looks like a bomb for fuck's sake! Should we just ignore any bomb-like objects we happen to see and risk having dozens of people blown up? It would take someone deeply mentally retarded to ignore such a thing.All your base are belong to us..

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070201/capt.ny20302010030.suspicious_devices_ny203.jpg
Cannot think of a name
01-02-2007, 07:53
It was hit with the Quad-Laser. You cannot escape its power.

Jumping...is useless!
Cromotar
01-02-2007, 09:44
Only in America could a whole city go nuts over Lite-Brite... :p

Oh, and if anyone feels they have money to burn:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mooninites-Ignignokt-LED-Advertising-Bomb_W0QQitemZ130075321405QQihZ003QQcategoryZ363QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
The Potato Factory
01-02-2007, 12:18
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/01/31/boston.bombscare/t1.device.ap.jpg

A group of electronic light boards featuring an adult cartoon character trigger bomb scares around Boston, spurring authorities to close two bridges and a stretch of the Charles River before determining the devices were harmless.

Meanwhile, police and prosecutors vented their anger at Turner Broadcasting, the parent company of CNN, which says the battery-operated light boards were aimed at promoting the late-night cartoon.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/31/boston.bombscare/index.html

"I hope they can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can."
New Burmesia
01-02-2007, 12:20
Own3d.
New Burmesia
01-02-2007, 12:23
Already a thread here, actually. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516552)
The Potato Factory
01-02-2007, 12:24
Already a thread here, actually. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516552)

My topic's better, though.
Isidoor
01-02-2007, 12:26
omg, it doesn't even remotely resemble a bomb.

"It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires."

lol
Free Soviets
01-02-2007, 12:30
"It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires."

breaking news - fire department in 'smoke alarm' bomb scare! is your home part of a terrorist plot? more at 11!
Dryks Legacy
01-02-2007, 12:34
breaking news - fire department in 'smoke alarm' bomb scare! is your home part of a terrorist plot? more at 11!

OMG smoke alarms have radioactive material! The terrorists are trying to nuke the world!
Free Soviets
01-02-2007, 12:36
OMG smoke alarms have radioactive material! The terrorists are trying to nuke the world!

we have received conformation now, fire department terrorists have planted dirty bombs in all of your homes! everybody panic! shocking footage at 11:30!
Non Aligned States
01-02-2007, 12:39
So if I leave a fistful of wires and batteries, maybe a black plastic board in a lump together, people are going to think it's a bomb? Cool.

Honestly though, the city ought to smack the people who called up these bomb scares for being idiots.
Free Soviets
01-02-2007, 12:42
So if I leave a fistful of wires and batteries, maybe a black plastic board in a lump together, people are going to think it's a bomb?

they arrested a guy who was protesting outside a military recruitment office by suiting up like the hooded abu ghraib torture victim for making bomb threats. 'cause he included wires for the fucking electrodes.
The Nuke Testgrounds
01-02-2007, 12:54
So if I leave a fistful of wires and batteries, maybe a black plastic board in a lump together, people are going to think it's a bomb? Cool.

If you take a cardboard box, write "Bomb!" on it and walk it down the street, people will think the same thing.
Bolol
01-02-2007, 12:59
I'm less worried about terrorism now, than I am worried that some insane State-funded association will reccommend that Massachusetts ban Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

Then...they would be no better than the terrorists.
Isidoor
01-02-2007, 12:59
we have received conformation now, fire department terrorists have planted dirty bombs in all of your homes! everybody panic! shocking footage at 11:30!

the FBI is already cleaning up the first bombs! you can always count on the female body inspectors!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/isidoor/fbismokedetector.jpg
Teh_pantless_hero
01-02-2007, 14:31
Yes. no one reported them. Clearly, they were all strung in the same locations, and were all set up the same. Environment has nothing to do with perception.
Because obviously they wouldn't be displayed in public where everyone could see them in all 10 cities, just Boston. It wasn't like they were an advertising campaign or anything. :rolleyes:

You see a black, rectangular shaped thing strung up with obvious wires, surrounded by pipes. It is at the top of the bridge, about 15' above your car. Your car is moving, although a little slowly, as it is stop and go traffic. In other words, one second you can see it, and then traffic moves 20 or 30', and suddenly, you can't see it.
Tell me, could you get a good look at it?
Yes, and if you can't, you shouldn't be driving because you are either blind or not paying attention. Oh, and you forgot about the white light-brite plugs in the shape of the ATHF moon-men attached very obviously to the black background.

Or how about this. You're on a subway train. The train is making stops, traveling the tunnels as usual. You see a dark rectangle, again, with wires and pipes around it.
Did you get a good look before the train pulled out of the station?
Again, you forget the part where there are white light-brite plugs in the shape of an ATHF character covering more than half of the black background. If you can make out wires then you can fucking make out a shape only a little smaller than the big ass board that it is sitting on.

Well, if you are trying to destroy something, which would be less suspicious...
this (http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~daveyp/nzTrip/blog/images/02-07-2006/homemade.jpg) or this (http://i.b5z.net/i/u/424807/i/elmo_doll_sesame_street_doll_200_75351.jpg)?
Which is more likely to accomplish its goal? Which is more likely to go more or less unnoticed and undisturbed?
You are just being facetious now because you know your argument holds no water when you take into account the fact that it wasn't just a plain dark board with a battery pack on the bottom of it.
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 14:38
Those damn terrorist mooninites!


You know, I don't even watch that show, and I knew what it was after a quick glance. What kind of dumb fuck mistakes that for a bomb?!
Teh_pantless_hero
01-02-2007, 14:40
Those damn terrorist mooninites!


You know, I don't even watch that show, and I knew what it was after a quick glance. What kind of dumb fuck mistakes that for a bomb?!
Boston's finest.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 15:05
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070201/ap_on_re_us/suspicious_devices

Accoring to Yahoo News' article, Boston is trying to get public momentum behind blaming Turner and Cartoon Network.

I, for one cry foul. Instead, we should blame Boston, the Boston Police Department, The people of Boston, Massachusetts and the United States of America for becoming so paranoid that we've been reduced to a pile of hysterical tics and spasms at the sight of blinking electronic publicity stunts. I mean, c'mon! It's not like they were bomb-shaped. Or showed a countdown timer, or anything even resembling something more or less than a silly cartoon stick-figure. Paranoia is to blame, not Turner Broadcasting.

The Terrorists win again! :(
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 15:11
The Terrorists are winning: America is almost destroyed. :(
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 15:21
I for one will sleep easier knowing that Boston is here to protect us from the Lite Brite cartoon terrorists.


The city of Boston is hiring bomb technicians. Education required, none. Technical requirements, none. Vision requirements 20/200 or better!



I demand a mooninite smilie.
Kinda Sensible people
01-02-2007, 15:38
I feel sorry for the poor fellows being charge for this. Boston is just covering its ass. Talk about a total overreaction.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 15:41
I feel sorry for the poor fellows being charge for this. Boston is just covering its ass. Talk about a total overreaction.

They're embarrassed, so they are lashing out.
OcceanDrive2
01-02-2007, 16:49
from the other thread
That's not being paranoid, it's being prepared. It looks like a bomb for fuck's sake! Should we just ignore any bomb-like objects we happen to see and risk having dozens of people blown up? It would take someone deeply mentally retarded to ignore such a thing.All your base are belong to us..

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070201/capt.ny20302010030.suspicious_devices_ny203.jpg
Drunk commies deleted
01-02-2007, 17:29
they arrested a guy who was protesting outside a military recruitment office by suiting up like the hooded abu ghraib torture victim for making bomb threats. 'cause he included wires for the fucking electrodes.

They should have used one of those robots that remotely detonate bombs on him.
Drunk commies deleted
01-02-2007, 17:40
from the other thread
All your base are belong to us..

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070201/cap
.ny20302010030.suspicious_devices_ny203.jpg

Yes, that was my reaction before it was revealed that they looked like that. I was picturing a suspicious box with wires and batteries, not an LED lite Brite set.
Greyenivol Colony
01-02-2007, 20:07
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6319211.stm

Not sure if anyone's heard this. But the marketing guys from [Adult Swim] have got in trouble for installing fake LED warning systems (desplaying Mooninites) in Boston. The article suggests jail time.

Thoughts? Praise? Condemnation?
Kiryu-shi
01-02-2007, 20:08
This is at least the third thread on this. :)
Infinite Revolution
01-02-2007, 20:09
paranoia
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 20:09
Yes, that was my reaction before it was revealed that they looked like that. I was picturing a suspicious box with wires and batteries, not an LED lite Brite set.

Lite Brites are very suspicious. :p
The Nazz
01-02-2007, 20:10
There was a big thread on it yesterday. Yesterday, I might have had a little sympathy for the Boston cops and city government, but now? Fuck 'em. They overreacted and instead of simply acknowledging that fact, they've got two people in jail. That's bullshit.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 20:15
The Terrorists have won again. :(
Waterback
01-02-2007, 20:15
I remember reading about a plane that did an emergency landing after someone on board smelled sulphur... It turned out that a lady had lit a match in the bathroom to cover up the smell of her fart.
Kulikovia
01-02-2007, 20:19
There is no escaping the quad laser! The Mooninites will conquer us all!!:eek:
Snafturi
01-02-2007, 20:21
I remember reading about a plane that did an emergency landing after someone on board smelled sulphur... It turned out that a lady had lit a match in the bathroom to cover up the smell of her fart.

Airport/ Airplane idiocy never ceases to amaze me.

And the daily new rules on what you can't take does nothing to make me feel safer.
Greyenivol Colony
01-02-2007, 20:22
*fails at checking for threads*
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:23
stupid marketing scheme. just a figure, no mention of what that figure represents (not everyone watches ATHF) no indication of company on the "ads" themselves. items placed in hard to see areas where adverts are not normally placed,

stupid really. a waste of Turners money.
Nadkor
01-02-2007, 20:23
"It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires."

Shit!

Somebody call the bomb squad quick!

Oh...wait, it's my TV remote.

I mean, Jesus, some wires and a battery and the place shits itself. An actual bomb was defused today here in the city centre and nobody batted an eyelid. You guys really have been wound up something shocking...
Kiryu-shi
01-02-2007, 20:25
stupid marketing scheme. just a figure, no mention of what that figure represents (not everyone watches ATHF) no indication of company on the "ads" themselves. items placed in hard to see areas where adverts are not normally placed,

stupid really. a waste of Turners money.

On the other hand it's getting a ton of media coverage and publicity now.
Waterback
01-02-2007, 20:27
Airport/ Airplane idiocy never ceases to amaze me.

And the daily new rules on what you can't take does nothing to make me feel safer.

Well they've accomplished something... At least we won't have to worry about someone stabbing us with a stick of lip-balm on an airplane.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 20:32
On the other hand it's getting a ton of media coverage and publicity now.

YAY! :D
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:36
On the other hand it's getting a ton of media coverage and publicity now.

and it's also telling people that security isn't TIGHT enough. The fact that it was put up weeks ago will only tell politicians to tighten up security. so when you hear that the Patriot Act and other such "Bills" are renewed and passed, you can thank these assholes for garnering support for it.
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 20:39
and it's also telling people that security isn't TIGHT enough. The fact that it was put up weeks ago will only tell politicians to tighten up security. so when you hear that the Patriot Act and other such "Bills" are renewed and passed, you can thank these assholes for garnering support for it.

No I think it's telling people that almost no one thought these were actually bombs or in any way harmful. Could be the big ass cartoon character on them. Or the fact that the most explosive thing on them was the cheap batteries.
Greyenivol Colony
01-02-2007, 20:40
The big Mooninite looks a little bit like Texas.

In a if-Texas-was-a-lot-squarer kind of way.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:45
No I think it's telling people that almost no one thought these were actually bombs or in any way harmful. Could be the big ass cartoon character on them. Or the fact that the most explosive thing on them was the cheap batteries.
several people called it in reporting seeing those things all over Boston. so that already tells you that people didn't know it was a cartoon character, and that they knew that the only explosive things on there were the batteries.
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 20:48
Reporting seeing something is a long ass way from the "OMG TERRORISTS!" crap the bomb squad and police were encouraging yesterday.
Nadkor
01-02-2007, 20:50
I wonder why it was only in Boston that they were treated as bombs?

They've been found in Seattle, 65 in Philadelphia, and 41 in NYC. Yet none of those places treated them as anything dangerous.

What's wrong with Boston?
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:51
Reporting seeing something is a long ass way from the "OMG TERRORISTS!" crap the bomb squad and police were encouraging yesterday.

any suspicious package, especially one that looks electronic by nature, that is reported into the police is treated as a potential bomb. this is SOP way before 9/11.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 20:51
What's wrong with Boston?

Jeez, that deserves it's own thread! No, it's own forum! :p
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 20:52
I wonder why it was only in Boston that they were treated as bombs?

They've been found in Seattle, 65 in Philadelphia, and 41 in NYC. Yet none of those places treated them as anything dangerous.

What's wrong with Boston?

Their bomb squad is too stupid to know the difference between a D Cell and C4.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:52
I wonder why it was only in Boston that they were treated as bombs?

They've been found in Seattle, 65 in Philadelphia, and 41 in NYC. Yet none of those places treated them as anything dangerous.

What's wrong with Boston?

According to some links in the other threads, Boston told the other cities what they were, so those cops don't, as people here say, "overreact".

Either that or ATHF is not a popular cartoon in Boston.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 20:52
any suspicious package, especially one that looks electronic by nature, that is reported into the police is treated as a potential bomb. this is SOP way before 9/11.

And lite brites are veeeery suspicious. *nod*
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 20:56
any suspicious package, especially one that looks electronic by nature, that is reported into the police is treated as a potential bomb. this is SOP way before 9/11.

It wasn't a package though, it was a very visible light device with not much more than batteries and a photo-receptor.

A drooling idiot, let alone the bomb squad, should of been able to tell what it was after a 5 second inspection.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:56
And lite brites are veeeery suspicious. *nod*

at 15-20 feet up and not lit up? In a pattern you don't reconize? in an area that nomally doesn't have signs? hell yes it's suspicious.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:57
It wasn't a package though, it was a very visible light device with not much more than batteries and a photo-receptor.

A drooling idiot, let alone the bomb squad, should of been able to tell what it was after a 5 second inspection.

and where were they attached?

tell me who else puts adverts and other Electronic Billboards of 1 foot square size in those areas?

give me a list with pics.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 20:59
Their bomb squad is too stupid to know the difference between a D Cell and C4.

you do know that a D cell will give enough electrical spark to set off explosives... right?

heck, a AA battery is enough.
Dinaverg
01-02-2007, 21:03
you do know that a D cell will give enough electrical spark to set off explosives... right?

heck, a AA battery is enough.

So, I could hang up my TV remote in this part of town and the bomb squad would be called in? Hell, it has two AA batteries.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 21:03
and where were they attached?

tell me who else puts adverts and other Electronic Billboards of 1 foot square size in those areas?

give me a list with pics.

If Boston was following SOP, what does that say about the other 9 cities where these were found? :p
Morganatron
01-02-2007, 21:06
You know, it's funny...if you get a phony threat about bombs in Boston, Cartoon Network has to pay. If you get phony intel about WMDs in Iraq, the U.S. taxpayers have to pay. :D
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 21:08
you do know that a D cell will give enough electrical spark to set off explosives... right?

heck, a AA battery is enough.

Which would be relevant if LEDs were high explosives. They're not.
Free Soviets
01-02-2007, 21:22
Airport/ Airplane idiocy never ceases to amaze me.

whatever you do, don't answer the guy that asks "did anyone else ask you to carry something in your bag for them?" by saying "no, i packed the bombs myself."
JuNii
01-02-2007, 21:22
If Boston was following SOP, what does that say about the other 9 cities where these were found? :pthat the citizens there didn't notice them at all (the rest said they recieved no 911 calls, that doesn't mean no one noticed, but it also doesn't mean they knew what it was.) or that ATHF is a very popular show there.

your point?
JuNii
01-02-2007, 21:23
Which would be relevant if LEDs were high explosives. They're not.

Hindsight's always 20/20.

How do you know they were legit LED's when they're not on?
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 21:25
that the citizens there didn't notice them at all (the rest said they recieved no 911 calls, that doesn't mean no one noticed, but it also doesn't mean they knew what it was.) or that ATHF is a very popular show there.

your point?

That the Terrorists have won another battle. :(
JuNii
01-02-2007, 21:26
That the Terrorists have won another battle. :(

rather they win something like this and not one where an explosion does go off because 1) people didn't pay attention or 2) the cops didn't follow SOP.

I bet if one of those was a bomb (made to look like a mooninite sign) and the cops ignored it, all of you would be screaming for the cops heads because they didn't check it out.
Lunatic Goofballs
01-02-2007, 21:32
rather they win something like this and not one where an explosion does go off because 1) people didn't pay attention or 2) the cops didn't follow SOP.

I bet if one of those was a bomb (made to look like a mooninite sign) and the cops ignored it, all of you would be screaming for the cops heads because they didn't check it out.

Bah! Terrorists don't watch Aqua Teen Hunger Force!

They watch the Smurfs. :p

Besides, cops can check it out without calling on the bomb squad, can't they? They did in 9 other cities. Especially after the first such incident. :p
JuNii
01-02-2007, 21:48
Bah! Terrorists don't watch Aqua Teen Hunger Force!

They watch the Smurfs. :p

Besides, cops can check it out without calling on the bomb squad, can't they? They did in 9 other cities. Especially after the first such incident. :p

cops do that, and they get hurt because it's a bomb, the city is liable because normal police officers do not have the training to deal with explosives.

You will be paying for that through your tax dollars anyway. cheaper to call the bomb squad (that's what they are there for.)
Khadgar
01-02-2007, 21:59
Hindsight's always 20/20.

How do you know they were legit LED's when they're not on?

Look at them? Thinking, one device, could possibly, in Bizarro world be a bomb can almost be explained away. But having examined one, determined it's not a bomb you proceed to shut down the rest of the city?

Oh yeah they didn't really examine the first one, they blew it up.


Not to mention explosives with the combined mass of those LED bulbs, even if they were powerful explosives would not of had enough power to damage any structure that was built to code.
JuNii
01-02-2007, 22:30
Look at them? Sure.

please tell me exactly what brand of batteries this particular "sign" has and point how you came to that conclusion to me.

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_031105805/lg

do not use any other pic, but that particuar one. remember, you are in your car, so you cannot exit your vehicle to "get a closer look." the moment you use anothe pic, you support the fact that NO, it's not obvious from where they were hanging.

Oh, that's right... Terrorist Bombs are required to have "DIE AMERIKANS" painted on them... :rolleyes:

Thinking, one device, could possibly, in Bizarro world be a bomb can almost be explained away. But having examined one, determined it's not a bomb you proceed to shut down the rest of the city?

Oh yeah they didn't really examine the first one, they blew it up.SOP. if they had an unusual package, they do detonate it. heck, a while back they blew up someones lunch because it was left in an area that was secured.

but you, you would open it to look inside. :rolleyes:

Not to mention explosives with the combined mass of those LED bulbs, even if they were powerful explosives would not of had enough power to damage any structure that was built to code.

and you know for a fact that those bulbs may not have been filled with anything hazardous BEFORE or AFTER you knew they were signs?

and remember, they were getting calls all over the city. the people calling it in would not be very discriptive. (I work in tech Support. getting the user to read the error message on the screen is an excercise in pulling teeth.)

so it would take 3 or 4 on site inspections per team before they realize that all the calls are hoaxes. longer since each squad would be answering those calls and not verifying that the signs are not dangerous.

oh and in that picture I posted above, please also show where the Cartoon Network, Turner Broadcasting Systems, or the company that put them up has their logo, identifying it as 1) an adverstisment, and 2) the company that put it up, signifying it's legitmacy.
Dosuun
01-02-2007, 22:37
They're going to get thrown in jail for leaving their lite brites outside? What has the world come too?
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 23:35
There was a big thread on it yesterday. Yesterday, I might have had a little sympathy for the Boston cops and city government, but now? Fuck 'em. They overreacted and instead of simply acknowledging that fact, they've got two people in jail. That's bullshit.
I tend to agree that they are making a bigger deal than they need to. It wasn't a hoax or bomb threat, just a misunderstanding
No I think it's telling people that almost no one thought these were actually bombs or in any way harmful. Could be the big ass cartoon character on them. Or the fact that the most explosive thing on them was the cheap batteries.Because bombs clearly could never have a cartoon character on them. All bombs must look like...well...bombs. Clearly, no one would ever try to disguse them as something innocent to prevent them from being removed.

Jeez, that deserves it's own thread! No, it's own forum! :p
:mad: ;)
Hindsight's always 20/20.

How do you know they were legit LED's when they're not on?Even if they were on...anyone could wire both a bomb and innocent looking LED's together.

Bah! Terrorists don't watch Aqua Teen Hunger Force!

They watch the Smurfs. :p

Besides, cops can check it out without calling on the bomb squad, can't they? They did in 9 other cities. Especially after the first such incident. :p
SOP, atleast in Boston, is to have the bomb squad investigate all reports of bombs.
And, to my knowledge, no calls were placed in other cities.

I agree with Junii. The first ones called in were in locations were you can't get a decent look...hanging high in a bridge overpass on a major highway, for example. Yeah, when you get a good look, they are clearly flat and innocent. From a distance of 15 feet while moving quickly, however, can you honestly say you'll get that great of a look? If you do, you are either part hawk or a liar.

Even after many had been called in, it is still SOP to have the bomb squad check it out. I, personally, am glad that they treated each and every report properly.
Sarkhaan
01-02-2007, 23:53
Because obviously they wouldn't be displayed in public where everyone could see them in all 10 cities, just Boston. It wasn't like they were an advertising campaign or anything. :rolleyes:And were they hanging in the same way? As in, in a shadowy corner under a bridge, fairly obscured?


Yes, and if you can't, you shouldn't be driving because you are either blind or not paying attention. Oh, and you forgot about the white light-brite plugs in the shape of the ATHF moon-men attached very obviously to the black background.So you're either part hawk, don't quite understand how the one under the bridge was hanging, are lying to make your point seem more valid, or some combination of them. Do you often look at the celing in a bridge while you are driving on a highway? Something tells me that if you regularly do, you are the one who shouldn't be driving.


Again, you forget the part where there are white light-brite plugs in the shape of an ATHF character covering more than half of the black background. If you can make out wires then you can fucking make out a shape only a little smaller than the big ass board that it is sitting on.You forget the part where a) they were off, as it was day time and b) just because something looks pretty doesn't mean it's dangerous. Wires can be very easy to see...you see them all the time in tunnels around here.


You are just being facetious now because you know your argument holds no water when you take into account the fact that it wasn't just a plain dark board with a battery pack on the bottom of it.
You call it me being facetious. I call it knowing what I'm talking about. I saw the damn thing after all. The way it was hung, you couldn't tell it was flat. And I stand by the fact that justbecause something is pretty and innocent looking doesn't mean it is.
Infinite Revolution
02-02-2007, 00:28
Sure.

please tell me exactly what brand of batteries this particular "sign" has and point how you came to that conclusion to me.

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_031105805/lg

do not use any other pic, but that particuar one. remember, you are in your car, so you cannot exit your vehicle to "get a closer look." the moment you use anothe pic, you support the fact that NO, it's not obvious from where they were hanging.


honestly that thing just looks like a strange bit of graffiti or rubbish. and really if you're passing it a 6mph and using real life ocular resolution you could probably quite easily tell they are duracell from the colours. and i know they were duracell from the other pic, yes, but if i couldn't notice they were duracell i probably wouldn't notice wires or batteries anyway.

do you really have 6MPH roads in the US!? what sort of speed is that!? why not 5MPH!? or just a sign saying "SLOW"!?
JuNii
02-02-2007, 00:33
honestly that thing just looks like a strange bit of graffiti or rubbish. and really if you're passing it a 6mph you could probably quite easily tell they are duracell from the colours. and i know they were duracell from the other pic, yes, but if i couldn't notice they were duracell i probably wouldn't notice wires or batteries anyway.

do you really have 6MPH roads in the US!? what sort of speed is that!? why not 5MPH!? or just a sign saying "SLOW"!?really, please indicate where on that pic you can see the Duracel colors.

and you said OTHER PIC. you mean the one that show it taken apart? that only proves that it's not readily noticable that it's batteries without taking it apart.

so again, as other people say "it's obvious that it's not C4 but duracells", you just proven that it's not that obvious without taking it apart.

So people call it in, the bomb squad has to check it out and at the same time they're getting calls from other areas that report other "Strange devices" attached to bridges. of course they'll take the precautions they did.


oh and 6MPH would be someplace like a parking lot or narrow alleyway. why 6? who knows.
Khadgar
02-02-2007, 00:51
really, please indicate where on that pic you can see the Duracel colors.

and you said OTHER PIC. you mean the one that show it taken apart? that only proves that it's not readily noticable that it's batteries without taking it apart.

so again, as other people say "it's obvious that it's not C4 but duracells", you just proven that it's not that obvious without taking it apart.

So people call it in, the bomb squad has to check it out and at the same time they're getting calls from other areas that report other "Strange devices" attached to bridges. of course they'll take the precautions they did.


oh and 6MPH would be someplace like a parking lot or narrow alleyway. why 6? who knows.

Please indicate on that where you see anything resembling wires or batteries. It looks like a sign.
Murgerspher
02-02-2007, 01:04
The cops better take a Mooninite flipping people off serious.Thouse guys are bad ass.



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Sel Appa
02-02-2007, 01:35
Now I understand why people were posting those pics on my thread.
Pyschotika
02-02-2007, 01:36
BOSTON — Two suspects arrested for their part in a hair-brain TV cartoon marketing campaign that ultimately paralyzed downtown Boston held a wild and mocking press conference Thursday, during which they would only answer questions regarding... their hair.

Peter Berdovsky, 27, and Sean Stevens, 28, ignored a barrage of reporters' questions about their role in the botched scheme and talked, instead, about mohawks, dreadlocks, Beatle cuts and Afros as their attorney, Michael Rich, stood by with an incredulous look on his face.

Meanwhile, an outraged Boston Mayor Tom Menino demanded restitution of at least $750,000 to compensate the city for police costs, while the state's attorney said he planned to go forward with criminal charges.

Berdovsky and Stevens were arrested Wednesday after officials found 38 blinking electronic signs promoting the Cartoon Network TV show "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" on bridges and other high-profile spots across the city, prompting the closing of a highway and the deployment of bomb squads.

"I feel like my hair is pretty perfect but altogether I want to redirect this to the haircuts of the '70s," Berdovsky said, ignoring reporters' shouts.

"I really like the one where the hair curls around to the back," Stevens replied.

"Oh yeah, that one’s so hot," Berdovsky then responded.

Frustrated reporters, trying to get the pair to respond to serious questions about the incident that at one point involved the participation of the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, finally tossed a question that gave one of them cause to reflect.

When asked whether they were afraid their hair might be cut if they are sent to prison, Berdovsky stopped his rant and answered, "Whatever happens I feel that my hair is safe at the moment."

A district court judge, meanwhile, ordered the two men held on bond for allegedly placing electronic advertising devices around the city, stirring fears of terrorism and shutting down parts of Boston.

They were held on $2,500 cash bond each after they pleaded not guilty to placing a hoax device and disorderly conduct.

"It's clear the intent was to get attention by causing fear and unrest that there was a bomb in that location," Assistant Attorney General John Grossman said at their arraignment.

The surreal series is about a talking milkshake, a box of fries and a meatball. The network is a division of Turner Broadcasting Systems Inc.

The 1-foot tall signs, which were lit up at night, resembled a circuit board, with protruding wires and batteries. Most depicted a boxy, cartoon character giving passersby the finger — a more obvious sight when darkness fell.

"It is outrageous, in a post 9/11 world, that a company would use this type of marketing scheme," Menino said Wednesday. "I am prepared to take any and all legal action against Turner Broadcasting and its affiliates for any and all expenses incurred during the response to today's incidents."

Berdovsky, an artist, told The Boston Globe he was hired by a marketing company and said he was "kind of freaked out" by the furor.

• VIDEO: Suspect Posts Video of Himself Planting 'Suspicious' Devices on His Web Site

"I find it kind of ridiculous that they're making these statements on TV that we must not be safe from terrorism, because they were up there for three weeks and no one noticed. It's pretty commonsensical to look at them and say this is a piece of art and installation," he said.

While Boston officials were livid, fans of the show mocked authorities for what they called an overreaction.

About a dozen fans gathered outside Charlestown District Court on Thursday morning with signs saying "1-31-07 Never Forget" and "Free Peter."

"We're the laughing stock," said Tracy O'Connor, 34.

"It's almost too easy to be a terrorist these days," said Jennifer Mason, 26. "You stick a box on a corner and you can shut down a city."

O'Connor said there's nothing wrong with being vigilant, but said she said it was ridiculous to shut down a city "when anyone under the age of 35 knew this was a joke the second they saw it."

Authorities vowed to hold Turner accountable for what Menino said was "corporate greed," that led to at least $750,000 in police costs.

As soon as Turner realized the Boston problem around 5 p.m., it said, law enforcement officials were told of their locations in 10 cities where it said the devices had been placed for two to three weeks: Boston, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, Seattle, Portland, Ore., Austin, Texas, San Francisco and Philadelphia.

"We apologize to the citizens of Boston that part of a marketing campaign was mistaken for a public danger," said Phil Kent, chairman of Turner, a division of Time Warner Inc.

Kent said the marketing company that placed the signs, Interference Inc., was ordered to remove them immediately.

Interference had no comment. A woman who answered the phone at the New York-based firm's offices Wednesday afternoon said the firm's CEO was out of town and would not be able to comment until Thursday.

Messages seeking additional comment from the Atlanta-based Cartoon Network were left with several publicists.

A voice mail box for Berdovsky was full Wednesday night. The Associated Press was unable to find whether Stevens had a lawyer.

Authorities are investigating whether Turner or other companies should be criminally charged, Attorney General Martha Coakley said. "We're not going to let this go without looking at the further roots of how this happened to cause the panic in this city," Coakley said.

In Seattle and several suburbs, the removal of the signs was low-key. "We haven't had any calls to 911 regarding this," Seattle police spokesman Sean Whitcomb said Wednesday.

Police in Philadelphia said they believed their city had 56 devices.

The New York Police Department removed 41 of the devices — 38 in Manhattan and three in Brooklyn, according to spokesman Paul Browne. The NYPD had not received any complaints. But when it became aware of the situation, it contacted Cartoon Network, which provided the locations so the devices could be removed.

"Aqua Teen Hunger Force" is a cartoon with a cultish following that airs as part of a block of programs for adults on the Cartoon Network. A feature length film based on the show is slated for release March 23.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Basic Story -

Adult Swim, authorized by CN and the companies up the corporate ladder, approves of a strange method of advertisement. Some odd number of signs are planted in 10 major cities, showing the little martian guy from the cult followed show 'Aqua Teen Hunger Force' giveing the finger. In Boston, Massasschussets, these signs happen to be placed on what are classified as 'prime terror targets' and...happen to have the most motorists. Ladeladalela, Police arrest two Gentlemen linked to it. They, the City, want to charge them with Criminal Intent, possibly even Conspiracy.

Bottom line -

Is Boston truely inhabbited, lead, and protected by the dumbest people to walk the Earth? No offense, I'm sure a big chunk of the Boston population found this funny and understood it...but you guys elect some big num nuts, I must say. So, I take back the inhabbited part. Atleast, it must be partially.
Fleckenstein
02-02-2007, 01:37
Already done.

In Boston, New York,

Wha?
Lacadaemon
02-02-2007, 01:38
I wonder why it was only in Boston that they were treated as bombs?

They've been found in Seattle, 65 in Philadelphia, and 41 in NYC. Yet none of those places treated them as anything dangerous.

What's wrong with Boston?

It would be quicker to list what was right with Boston. Still it serves them right, they are all terrorist sympathizers up there.
Nadkor
02-02-2007, 01:39
OH DEAR GOD, how many threads do we need on an insignificant and over hyped bomb scare in Boston?
Snafturi
02-02-2007, 01:40
4 threads on this topic? Yeesh.

And last time I checked 2 were still on the first page.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 01:41
It would be quicker to list what was right with Boston. Still it serves them right, they are all terrorist sympathizers up there.
.....

I really hope you're joking about that.
Pyschotika
02-02-2007, 01:43
I put New York didn't I...

Permission to make fun of me granted :(...

Link to the video taken by the guys putting up the signs -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doD_VpT_yAY
JuNii
02-02-2007, 01:44
Please indicate on that where you see anything resembling wires or batteries. It looks like a sign.

when was the last time you seen a sign hanging in that posistion?

and if you look closely at the lower left corner, (the bottom) you can barely make out the wires.

as for the batteries, no, I can't see em. yet alot of people say the cops should know the difference between D-cells and C4 (check out the other threads as well as this one.)


now, the calls coming into the police station wouldn't call it a bomb, but a strange device. so picture this. you're on patrol, and you get a call to check out an unusual device found at this corner. you arrive and you see mr mooninite hanging in that posisiton. not everyone watches ATHF, (I don't) so assume you never have either. you don't know what it is or why it's hanging there. SOP when finding a strange electrical device is to call for bomb experts to assess it. while they are on the way, you re-route traffic (it does look like it might fall.) and while doing that, you hear over the radio, dispatch sending another patrol to a different area to check out a strange electronic device.

Bomb Squad arrives and as they are starting to investigate, you hear that second call put in a request for explosive experts and you hear a third call about a strange device found at an overpass. Descriptions match yours. so what are YOU going to think. three strange devices, all found next to major streets/thouroghfares, no indication as to what they do (during the day, so it's not on.) then you hear a fourth call.

making a guess that it's just a sign is not police work, assuming anything can get people killed. so what do you do?

they (Boston PD) did exactly what they were supposed to do. untill the purpose of these devices are confimed, you safeguard public lifes. They didn't overreact, they reacted just fine, and those who hung up the signs should be arrested because of where those signs appeared.
Xanthal
02-02-2007, 01:47
I bet if one of those was a bomb (made to look like a mooninite sign) and the cops ignored it, all of you would be screaming for the cops heads because they didn't check it out.This is an excellent point, but there's a difference between checking something out and declaring a citywide lockdown. I think they were right to treat it as threat until they knew otherwise. I think they were wrong to incite mass hysteria at the first sign of what might not even be a bomb. The media are partly to blame too, for propagating foolish rumors.

It's also worth noting once again that, if these things were bombs, you'd think they'd be set to detonate within a few days maybe. That they'd been there, inert, for weeks damages my confidence in the diligence of Homeland Security on top of my faith in its intelligence and professionalism. Of course, I never had much faith in Homeland Security to begin with.
Hoyteca
02-02-2007, 01:49
Some of the box things were placed on or near bridges, which are believed to be potential targets for terrorist attacks. You have to realized that the effects of 9-11 have not yet gone away. People still feel vulnerable to terror attacks and they're right. Almost 6 years after 9-11 and people in general aren't much safer. Plus, if the Iraq war taught us anything, it's that anything could be a bomb. Shoebox. Shoe. Roadkill. Even a stupid box advertising one of the dumbest shows on television and this is an age where any show without a script is either a comedian's show, a game or news show, or "reality" tv. This isn't about McDonald's coffee or getting fat off of fast food. This is about strange boxes appearing near potential terrorist targets at a time where terrorists could still pull of a terrorist attack as easily as before 9-11.
Infinite Revolution
02-02-2007, 01:49
really, please indicate where on that pic you can see the Duracel colors.

and you said OTHER PIC. you mean the one that show it taken apart? that only proves that it's not readily noticable that it's batteries without taking it apart.

so again, as other people say "it's obvious that it's not C4 but duracells", you just proven that it's not that obvious without taking it apart.

So people call it in, the bomb squad has to check it out and at the same time they're getting calls from other areas that report other "Strange devices" attached to bridges. of course they'll take the precautions they did.


oh and 6MPH would be someplace like a parking lot or narrow alleyway. why 6? who knows.

if you'd have read my post properly you'd have noticed that i qualified my statement about the batteries by saying if they don't notce those, they're not going to notice the wires. so it's just a piece of graffiti or rubbish until one looks closer and sees the wires, at which point they'd notice the LEDS and the batteries too, and see that it's just some random bit of tat with a cartoon figure on it. really, this is nothing but one of the funnier bits of hypertensive paranoia to have emerged from this latest great looming nebulous enemy for the state.
Lacadaemon
02-02-2007, 01:51
.....

I really hope you're joking about that.

No. The city of boston, and it's politicians, have supported international terrorism for decades. I can have no sympathy.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 01:54
No. The city of boston, and it's politicians, have supported international terrorism for decades. I can have no sympathy.

Wow. I support terrorism. Who would have guessed?

Please, share with the rest of the class...what, exactly, has Boston done to support terrorism?
Lacadaemon
02-02-2007, 01:55
Wow. I support terrorism. Who would have guessed?

Please, share with the rest of the class...what, exactly, has Boston done to support terrorism?

What about the IRA? Or is only terrorism when americans get killed?
JuNii
02-02-2007, 01:57
if you'd have read my post properly you'd have noticed that i qualified my statement about the batteries by saying if they don't notce those, they're not going to notice the wires. so it's just a piece of graffiti or rubbish until one looks closer and sees the wires, at which point they'd notice the LEDS and the batteries too, and see that it's just some random bit of tat with a cartoon figure on it. really, this is nothing but one of the funnier bits of hypertensive paranoia to have emerged from this latest great looming nebulous enemy for the state.

honestly that thing just looks like a strange bit of graffiti or rubbish. and really if you're passing it a 6mph you could probably quite easily tell they are duracell from the colours. and i know they were duracell from the other pic, yes, but if i couldn't notice they were duracell i probably wouldn't notice wires or batteries anyway.

do you really have 6MPH roads in the US!? what sort of speed is that!? why not 5MPH!? or just a sign saying "SLOW"!?you could TELL THEY WERE DURACEL FROM THE OTHER PIC. but can you tell that they were duracel and not Energizer from the pic I posted?

no. why? they were covered. why would they be covered? because electronic contacts need to be protected from the elements. add to that the battery housing has to be made to insure that the batteries don't fall out. so they were covered, thus you did see any colors to indicate "Duracell" or "Energizer" or even "Everlast"

so indicate where the colors are. the pic isn't moving so it's slower than 6 MPH. you're not driving so you can take as long as you want to study the pic. where are the Duracel colors you say you can see?
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 01:58
What about the IRA? Or is only terrorism when americans get killed?

And Boston supports the IRA? We send them money? We train them? Please, enlighten me.
Lacadaemon
02-02-2007, 01:59
And Boston supports the IRA? We send them money? We train them? Please, enlighten me.

Forget it. It's not my job to tell you about your own politicians.

I guess that explains why your mayor is so fuking dumb though.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 02:00
Yes.

mmhmm...Again, gonna need some elaboration, sources...you know, more than a one word answer...
Infinite Revolution
02-02-2007, 02:02
you could TELL THEY WERE DURACEL FROM THE OTHER PIC. but can you tell that they were duracel and not Energizer from the pic I posted?

no. why? they were covered. why would they be covered? because electronic contacts need to be protected from the elements. add to that the battery housing has to be made to insure that the batteries don't fall out. so they were covered, thus you did see any colors to indicate "Duracell" or "Energizer" or even "Everlast"

so indicate where the colors are. the pic isn't moving so it's slower than 6 MPH. you're not driving so you can take as long as you want to study the pic. where are the Duracel colors you say you can see?

honestly that thing just looks like a strange bit of graffiti or rubbish. and really if you're passing it a 6mph you could probably quite easily tell they are duracell from the colours. and i know they were duracell from the other pic, yes, but if i couldn't notice they were duracell i probably wouldn't notice wires or batteries anyway.

the pic is also in a shitty resolution which easily makes up for the fact that it's stationary and i'm not driving. in the clear light of day, in real life, viewed from a car or a pedestrian walkway, that thing would simply look like a piece of card or something and i would simply dismiss it as irrelevant.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 02:07
Forget it. It's not my job to tell you about your own politicians.

I guess that explains why your mayor is so fuking dumb though.

Actually, if you're going to make an accusation like that, then yeah, I'd like to see some defence. Considering they also aren't my politicians, as I am not a resident of the state (long process...essentially, I am a resident of CT, and that is where I vote, but live 80% or more of the year in Boston), I'm quite interested.


But, by all means, continue being an asshole towards me. It's cute. Really.
JuNii
02-02-2007, 02:30
the pic is also in a shitty resolution which easily makes up for the fact that it's stationary and i'm not driving. in the clear light of day, in real life, viewed from a car or a pedestrian walkway, that thing would simply look like a piece of card or something and i would simply dismiss it as irrelevant.
which is the reason why it stayed up for three weeks untill someone called the police about it.

however, dismissing it is not investigating it which is what the police had to do.
Khadgar
02-02-2007, 02:34
when was the last time you seen a sign hanging in that posistion?

and if you look closely at the lower left corner, (the bottom) you can barely make out the wires.


Oh horse shit, if you can't see a fucking D cell battery there's no way in hell you can see a thin blue wire. I'm sorry you're a paranoid bastard but that's really not my problem and the bomb squad ought be better trained than you.
Teh_pantless_hero
02-02-2007, 02:38
when was the last time you seen a sign hanging in that posistion?

and if you look closely at the lower left corner, (the bottom) you can barely make out the wires.

Well I will just assume because you are focusing so intently on finding wires you miss the big ass character from ATHF on it.
Infinite Revolution
02-02-2007, 02:44
which is the reason why it stayed up for three weeks untill someone called the police about it.

however, dismissing it is not investigating it which is what the police had to do.

so basically, a completely innocuous piece of crap, which no-one paid any attention to for three weeks, brought an entire city to a standstill and cost the local police $750,000, because some paranoid, attention seeking busy-body thought it looked a bit odd. and you've all but admitted that this busy-body would have had to get 'dangerously' close to this piece of crap, which has been hanging around over people's heads for weeks, to see any bits of electronics which might trigger their paranoid mind into a fearful tizz about a bomb. so the police call out the bomb squad, at ridiculous cost, to blow up a piece of crap that they and everyone else has seen and dismissed for weeks. and the obvious next step then is to incure further expense by bringing trumped up charges to bear on the people who put well over 100 of these innocuous and harmless pieces of crap all over several major cities, where they have been hanging around for weeks being dismissed as pieces of crap by every sane and stable person that saw them....

and this isn't an over-reaction?

i think there's a paranoid, attention-seeking, busy-body somewhere who owes the city of boston a lot of money.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 02:48
Well I will just assume because you are focusing so intently on finding wires you miss the big ass character from ATHF on it.

so basically, a completely innocuous piece of crap, which no-one paid any attention to for three weeks, brought an entire city to a standstill and cost the local police $750,000, because some paranoid, attention seeking busy-body thought it looked a bit odd. and you've all but admitted that this busy-body would have had to get 'dangerously' close to this piece of crap, which has been hanging around over people's heads for weeks, to see any bits of electronics which might trigger their paranoid mind into a fearful tizz about a bomb. so the police call out the bomb squad, at ridiculous cost, to blow up a piece of crap that they and everyone else has seen and dismissed for weeks. and the obvious next step then is to incure further expense by bringing trumped up charges to bear on the people who put well over 100 of these innocuous and harmless pieces of crap all over several major cities, where they have been hanging around for weeks being dismissed as pieces of crap by every sane and stable person that saw them....

and this isn't an over-reaction?

i think there's a paranoid, attention-seeking, busy-body somewhere who owes the city of boston a lot of money.

Okay, once again, just because there is a cartoon character on it doesn't make it "clear". Actually, it increased the issue. To reiterate, NOT EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH ATHF.

9 "things", all with a very similar theme, found on major roads, bridges, hospitals, and government buildings. Yes, that would appear threatening.

The importance was the number and locations, as well as clear connection between the devices.
JuNii
02-02-2007, 02:48
so basically, a completely innocuous piece of crap, which no-one paid any attention to for three weeks, brought an entire city to a standstill and cost the local police $750,000, because some paranoid, attention seeking busy-body thought it looked a bit odd. and you've all but admitted that this busy-body would have had to get 'dangerously' close to this piece of crap, which has been hanging around over people's heads for weeks, to see any bits of electronics which might trigger their paranoid mind into a fearful tizz about a bomb. so the police call out the bomb squad, at ridiculous cost, to blow up a piece of crap that they and everyone else has seen and dismissed for weeks. and the obvious next step then is to incure further expense by bringing trumped up charges to bear on the people who put well over 100 of these innocuous and harmless pieces of crap all over several major cities, where they have been hanging around for weeks being dismissed as pieces of crap by every sane and stable person that saw them....

and this isn't an over-reaction?

i think there's a paranoid, attention-seeking, busy-body somewhere who owes the city of boston a lot of money.but since this busy-body hasn't come forwards saying "I saw it!" and since reports were coming from all over the place. the blame therefore lies with those who put it up in the first place.
JuNii
02-02-2007, 02:52
Well I will just assume because you are focusing so intently on finding wires you miss the big ass character from ATHF on it.don't watch ATHF. so my first impression was "Space Invaders".

Oh horse shit, if you can't see a fucking D cell battery there's no way in hell you can see a thin blue wire. I'm sorry you're a paranoid bastard but that's really not my problem and the bomb squad ought be better trained than you.... and where is the Fucking D cell?

you obviously see it in the Pic. where is it?

or do you have to take the cover off first. so it's not bloody obvious what it is until you take it apart.

proves the point that Boston PD did not overreact, and still there is no other marking indicating that it is an advertisment. no company logo, no station ID (since it is a cartoon character) not even a trademark logo.

which still points to it not being so Fucking obvious as you keep trying to pass it off as.

and since when did I say I was paranoid? I only stated that boston PD acted accordingly and those who did hang those signs should pay for it.
Infinite Revolution
02-02-2007, 02:59
but since this busy-body hasn't come forwards saying "I saw it!" and since reports were coming from all over the place. the blame therefore lies with those who put it up in the first place.

no, in that case there is no blame to be layed. the city of boston ran up huge costs because lots and lots of people screwed up all over the place. you can't lay the blame solely on these two when there are so many other factors leading to those costs being incured, including over-reaction, paranoia, misjudgement, corporate lazyness, police hyperactivity, scaremongering, lack of communication etc. etc. it's just beyond ridiculous that these two should become the scapegoats of the whole farce. what are they even being punished for? the charges are suggesting that they went out deliberately to cause panic, that's just beyond stupid, where's the possible marketing advantage in that? i don't remember anyone getting charged for inciting fear and panic when thousands of unmarked videos (potentially PACKED WITH C4 ZOMG!!1 :eek:) were distributed to advertise 'the ring 2'... and that really was intended to incite fear and panic.
The Nazz
02-02-2007, 02:59
And Boston supports the IRA? We send them money? We train them? Please, enlighten me.

Boston's been a huge fundraising place for the IRA for decades--it's a well known fact. Doesn't mean that every Bostonian is an IRA supporter--just that it's a place where the IRA comes (or used to come, anyway) for cash that they would then spend on guns and bombs that they'd use on the English.
The Nazz
02-02-2007, 03:01
Oh yeah:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_peLg3xECO5g/RcI1Iyy_yEI/AAAAAAAAAAg/fYoq3eAR9is/s320/freepeter.gif
Katzistanza
02-02-2007, 03:03
They should have used one of those robots that remotely detonate bombs on him.

Welcome to America, folk, where you get blown up for having a difference of opinion!
Teh_pantless_hero
02-02-2007, 03:03
Okay, once again, just because there is a cartoon character on it doesn't make it "clear". Actually, it increased the issue. To reiterate, NOT EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH ATHF.
And apparently everyone that isn't only lives in Boston because the nine other cities didn't give a rat's ass.

9 "things", all with a very similar theme, found on major roads, bridges, hospitals, and government buildings. Yes, that would appear threatening.
Let's define things as "signs framing pop-culture icons" and all those places you listed as "not famous targets or targets of real interest."
PS. I would like a link to the list you found of everywhere the signs were hanging because all I saw that they were hanging on bridges. And how can they hang on major roads that arn't bridges?

The importance was the number and locations, as well as clear connection between the devices.
Yes, the clear connection of a pop-culture reference and public places. That's how ad campaigns work.

proves the point that Boston PD did not overreact, and still there is no other marking indicating that it is an advertisment. no company logo, no station ID (since it is a cartoon character) not even a trademark logo.
Disagree on the point that they did not overreact because PD in 9 other cities did not do the same thing as the Boston PD and the Boston bomb squad knew this was a load of shit because they were carrying the things around in paper bags. Must be real dangerous.

BOLD: They are recognizable characters from a popular cartoon on Cartoon Network. The images are trademarked and represent and company and station, that was the point.
Kroisistan
02-02-2007, 03:05
Anything involving Adult Swim cartoons qualifies as terrorism.


It needed to be said.
Katzistanza
02-02-2007, 03:15
Anything involving Adult Swim cartoons qualifies as terrorism.


It needed to be said.

Come now, they have several good shows. The also have lots of crappy shows, but just don't watch those.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 03:23
Let's define things as "signs framing pop-culture icons" and all those places you listed as "not famous targets or targets of real interest." Yeah...major bridges, highways, government buildings, and subway lines in a major city aren't of any interest at all. Of course not.
PS. I would like a link to the list you found of everywhere the signs were hanging because all I saw that they were hanging on bridges. And how can they hang on major roads that arn't bridges?The BU Bridge goes over the Masspike for a span.


Yes, the clear connection of a pop-culture reference and public places. That's how ad campaigns work.clear connection IF YOU KNOW IT WAS AN AD CAMPAIGN.


Disagree on the point that they did not overreact because PD in 9 other cities did not do the same thing as the Boston PD and the Boston bomb squad knew this was a load of shit because they were carrying the things around in paper bags. Must be real dangerous.You mean after a bomb squad investigates and discovers them to be harmless, they should still treat it like a bomb?

BOLD: They are recognizable characters from a popular cartoon on Cartoon Network. The images are trademarked and represent and company and station, that was the point.
And there was a trademark sign on these images? And Warner Broadcasing had their insignia somewhere on them? Or Adult Swim? Or anyone else associated?
Boston's been a huge fundraising place for the IRA for decades--it's a well known fact. Doesn't mean that every Bostonian is an IRA supporter--just that it's a place where the IRA comes (or used to come, anyway) for cash that they would then spend on guns and bombs that they'd use on the English.Was that the government, or just independent citizens? Honestly, Boston has the 2nd largest number of Irish people outside Dublin...the fact that they would fundraise here isn't surprising. I would be shocked to hear that the government directly participated, however.
The Nazz
02-02-2007, 03:26
Was that the government, or just independent citizens? Honestly, Boston has the 2nd largest number of Irish people outside Dublin...the fact that they would fundraise here isn't surprising. I would be shocked to hear that the government directly participated, however.

Just the people so far as I know, though I've read and heard that the local cops turned their heads when guns were being sold and the like, but no formal city involvement. I hear much the same thing down here--lots of Irish in south Florida, largely because there are two major ports.
Nadkor
02-02-2007, 03:28
I've just realised how completely wrong the thread title is.
Teh_pantless_hero
02-02-2007, 03:32
Yeah...major bridges, highways, government buildings, and subway lines in a major city aren't of any interest at all. Of course not. I don't see yourlink to the places where they were found.


clear connection IF YOU KNOW IT WAS AN AD CAMPAIGN.
Only if you're fucking dense. You don't need to know it was an ad campaign to make a connection.


You mean after a bomb squad investigates and discovers them to be harmless, they should still treat it like a bomb?
Are you telling me they didn't detonate them like they said they did?


And there was a trademark sign on these images?
I see you don't understand how trademarks work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademarks#Fundamental_concepts
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 03:40
Just the people so far as I know, though I've read and heard that the local cops turned their heads when guns were being sold and the like, but no formal city involvement. I hear much the same thing down here--lots of Irish in south Florida, largely because there are two major ports.Thats what I thought. The BPD for years was known to be hugely corrupt, and was mostly (and still is mostly) Irish. Not surprising. But like I said, I would be shocked to hear it was actually the government.

I don't see yourlink to the places where they were found.I live in Boston. If you want a list, look it up. I really don't have the time right now. If you don't want to, I'll do it possibly tomorrow if I get some free time



Only if you're fucking dense. You don't need to know it was an ad campaign to make a connection.So...someone shows you an image you've never seen before. You'd know its an ad?



Are you telling me they didn't detonate them like they said they did?
They detonated one. the first one called in.


I see you don't understand how trademarks work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademarks#Fundamental_concepts
So you're telling me that every ad doesn't have the (tm) or (r) mark on it? Or have a mark of who they are advertising for?
Teh_pantless_hero
02-02-2007, 03:43
So...someone shows you an image you've never seen before. You'd know its an ad?
I wouldn't jump to assuming it's a bomb because it is too obvious to be a bomb for various reasons.

You must've been the single guy that called in and said it was a bomb or something.
Sarkhaan
02-02-2007, 03:45
I wouldn't jump to assuming it's a bomb because it is too obvious to be a bomb for various reasons.

You must've been the single guy that called in and said it was a bomb or something.
Killer argument there, bud. Absolutly killer.
Khadgar
02-02-2007, 03:47
don't watch ATHF. so my first impression was "Space Invaders".

... and where is the Fucking D cell?

you obviously see it in the Pic. where is it?

or do you have to take the cover off first. so it's not bloody obvious what it is until you take it apart.

proves the point that Boston PD did not overreact, and still there is no other marking indicating that it is an advertisment. no company logo, no station ID (since it is a cartoon character) not even a trademark logo.

which still points to it not being so Fucking obvious as you keep trying to pass it off as.

and since when did I say I was paranoid? I only stated that boston PD acted accordingly and those who did hang those signs should pay for it.


I don't think you're very bright. "if you can't see a fucking D cell battery there's no way in hell you can see a thin blue wire". You can't see any batteries in that picture, and you sure as hell can't see any damned wires. You're just being argumentative because you don't want to admit you're wrong, and the Boston PD is wrong and stupid on a rather cosmic scale.
Teh_pantless_hero
02-02-2007, 03:47
Killer argument there, bud. Absolutly killer.
So you want to make a bomb? Ok, you want to hide it, on the visible part of bridges is a bad place to do it. Well, maybe you will make it look like a cartoon poster plaque, well, the visible wires and suspicious looking battery box are probably going to blow your cover there.
The puppet lands
02-02-2007, 03:49
These people caused a panic. They should be tried for disturbing the peace, at least.
Khadgar
02-02-2007, 03:51
Make sure you call the bomb squad and tell them you're setting up Christmas lights this year. They're so damned stupid they'll think you've strung primer cord around your house.


TERRORISTS!

It's got wires! And blinking lights! Clearly it's a very large bomb, perhaps his whole house is a bomb! WE JUST DON'T KNOW!
The puppet lands
02-02-2007, 03:53
And when you do not know, you take precautions to save the people. I do not see the problem in Boston, except that they merely mistook a flashing advertisement for a bomb.
JuNii
02-02-2007, 03:53
I see you don't understand how trademarks work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademarks#Fundamental_concepts
read it again. it needs to have the TM or the R.

so that image needed more than an image, it needed the line
"Mooninite is a registered trade mark of The Turner Broadcasting Service and Cartoon Network."

that lays the Trademark claim and can thus be enforced. If they keep using that image without trademarking it, then it becomes Public Domain and they loose the right to regulate it.
JuNii
02-02-2007, 03:54
So you want to make a bomb? Ok, you want to hide it, on the visible part of bridges is a bad place to do it. Well, maybe you will make it look like a cartoon poster plaque, well, the visible wires and suspicious looking battery box are probably going to blow your cover there.

except no one knew that it's a battery box until it was taken apart.