NationStates Jolt Archive

I wouldn't. The threat of the police is a very serious one, and one I don't want to use unless it is a very serious situation. I'd also be more worried about the message that sends to my kids; namely one of 'If you don't do what I say when I say it, I'll have you thrown in jail'. I'd say that message is a bit worse than the kids feeling unfairly treated by a group punishment, ne?

Depends. Maybe I'm a tad summum jus, which could lead to summa injuria. But what if 5 minutes didn't work? Then how much longer? What if it didn't work, period, due to the thief figuring that a new cell phone is worth waiting 5 hours? See my point?

Which is why I'd say "either whoever did owns up to it, therefore making it a 5-minute problem, or I up the ante by calling the police and THEIR disciplinary action is a tad worse than whatever I could throw at you.". Not in such terms, but... As for keeping the whole class 5 extra minutes, I'd make it up to them later on.

Would you write them passes so they wouldn't all get detention for being late to their next class?

I don't know, school bus drivers aren't that empowered here. Maybe to prevent that exact kind of jackassery.

I know that they can at least give suspensions from the busses, and they can definitely give referrals. Plus the school administrators were there, I think, and they could suspend them from school for defiance of authority.

Depends. Maybe I'm a tad summum jus, which could lead to summa injuria. But what if 5 minutes didn't work? Then how much longer? What if it didn't work, period, due to the thief figuring that a new cell phone is worth waiting 5 hours? See my point?

Figured out a possible compromise here: Keep teaching class of later classes (assuming you prepared it in advance) and giving the would-be homework as in-class activities and openly state that "if, in (x) hours, no one owns up to it, the principal deals with it as HE sees fit" (or threatening, in X hours, to involve the police). However, since I'd have taught the class, make it up to the rest of the students by them not having these extra classes I gave due to the fact that, well, they already had it.

Would you write them passes so they wouldn't all get detention for being late to their next class?

Most certainly.

I know that they can at least give suspensions from the busses, and they can definitely give referrals. Plus the school administrators were there, I think, and they could suspend them from school for defiance of authority.

And didn't they berate the guy for not doing his job?

Remember though: I went over to the Dark Side and BECAME a teacher.and now you use your knowledge to your advantage. Splendid young Padawan! :D

Fact: When I was the victim of one thing, when I was 14, and the teacher gave the class a blanket punishment, one of my bullies attempted to rally the class against me.

Fact: When Kat was on high school, her teacher learned a valuable lesson.

And so on.Fact 1: Attempted... doesn't indicate success. One of... indicates many, so maybe the blanket punishment wasn't so blanket after all.

fact 2: while I do hold personal accounts with some merit. here's mine.
Club event on another island. we were staying in a hotel. a couple of students snuck in some alcohol and proceeded to get very drunk. the entire club was under enforced lock and key. no traveling anywhere because of those idiots. everyone knew who to thank and no one blamed the Chaperones.

Class Feild trip called short because a couple of idiots couldn't behave. everyone punished, but no one blamed the teachers.

Depends. Maybe I'm a tad summum jus, which could lead to summa injuria. But what if 5 minutes didn't work? Then how much longer? What if it didn't work, period, due to the thief figuring that a new cell phone is worth waiting 5 hours? See my point?
Different levels and different responces for those levels. I didn't say I would never call in the police, just that I would be hesitent to do so.

Most certainly. That works, then.

This is kind of unrelated, but I hated it when a teacher made me late for my next class because she was consistently late coming back from lunch. We had a lunch that required us to go back to the classroom for the last five minutes before the next class, so our backpacks were locked in the classroom and we had to wait for her, and she was never back on time. Luckily, are lunch was changed, so we aren't late anymore.


And didn't they berate the guy for not doing his job?

I don't know. My friend didn't mention that. I think they're allowed to kick anyone they want off the bus, since it's a privilege to ride it.

I know that I don't particularly like the bus driver I have two days a week when I go tutor at the elementary school. The first day, we got all got there late even though we were running as quickly as we could, because they didn't tell us which bus we were going on and we had no idea which one to look for. So she yelled at us and told us that we should always come to the front of the line of busses.

The next time, not only was it a different bus entirely, but it was in the back, and she yelled at us for going to the front and not running around to find it (although I went back to look at the list of busses, I didn't know which number it was, since the previous number wasn't on there, and I was running to find it after realizing that it wasn't at the front).

Today she kicked my friend of the bus because she had balloons with her for her birthday. She was trying to get rid of them or leave them at the school or something but the driver wouldn't let her on the bus. I kind of understand, but a lot of people were upset. It turned out fine in the end and I think the principal gave her a ride to the school she had to go to.

I think I may have drifted off topic here a bit...sorry.

Different levels and different responces for those levels. I didn't say I would never call in the police, just that I would be hesitent to do so.

Why I proposed that compromise.