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Ok guys, water is now especially reserved for those who can afford it.

Water article (http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_world.php?page_zone=150.7.3&storyid=4510905)

This water is gathered from a spring in Tennessee, bottled in "Bling H20" bottles - decorated with Swarovski crystals - and sold for £46. For you Americans, that's $90.
Celebrities are already snapping it up.
This disgusts me - people have to walk for miles to get water in some parts of the world, yet over here, it's specially reserved for the super rich and famous. Thoughts?

Why wouldn't they just buy their own goddamn lake?

Proof that we will buy anything, though I do like the idea.

Why wouldn't they just buy their own goddamn lake?

Oh, haven't you heard? This is the new accessory for celebrities. Out with poodles, in with water.

Another quality example of the idiot tax in action.

Proof that we will buy anything, though I do like the idea.

You like the idea of celebrities getting one up on the rest of the population because they have more money than the rest of us?
How is that fair?

You like the idea of celebrities getting one up on the rest of the population because they have more money than the rest of us?
How is that fair?

Diamond encrusted water bottles is hardly a one up.


Diamond encrusted water bottles are a fancy way of setting fire to piles of money.

decorated with diamonds

It isn't decorated with diamonds. It's decorated with Swarovski crystals

I once watched a progamm where the presenter set up their own water business. They bottled regular tap water (in the style of 'peckham springs') applied a 5000% markup and it sold better that glasses of tap water from a jug at a fraction of the price.

diabolical.

diabolical.

Rich people's idiot tax. I think it's a great idea, don't you?

Diamond encrusted water bottles is hardly a one up.


Diamond encrusted water bottles are a fancy way of setting fire to piles of money.

No, it's not the bottles themselves, it's the water. It's only gathered from a reservoir in Tennessee. So, they've pretty much reserved this lake for people with these piles of money.

I don't see how this is disgusting. It is like the super expensive restaurants that exist today except a significantly worse bargain. The rich are always going to have water, how is it wrong that they now pay ridiculous prices for some idiotic luxury water?

Rich people's idiot tax. I think it's a great idea, don't you?

when you put it like that though, i quite like it :D

Rich people's idiot tax. I think it's a great idea, don't you?

To Congress with you!

No, it's not the bottles themselves, it's the water. It's only gathered from a reservoir in Tennessee. So, they've pretty much reserved this lake for people with these piles of money.

One resevoir. Whoop de fuckin' doo.

No, it's not the bottles themselves, it's the water. It's only gathered from a reservoir in Tennessee. So, they've pretty much reserved this lake for people with these piles of money.
So what?? The rich bought themselves a lake for their overpriced water. This isn't so much something that causes me to cry out injustice as it is something that makes me want to laugh at these idiotic rich people.

One resevoir. Whoop de fuckin' doo.

Again, tis teh principles of it.

I think any water that we have to pay for is sad water. Food, water, shelter, and air should be free because we as human beings need those things to survive. How much money we pay is beside the point, and speaks more to our love of branding as an individual statement than anything else.

So what?? The rich bought themselves a lake for their overpriced water. This isn't so much something that causes me to cry out injustice as it is something that makes me want to laugh at these idiotic rich people.

This makes me wanna buy a lake and laugh at stupid rich people.

You like the idea of celebrities getting one up on the rest of the population because they have more money than the rest of us?
How is that fair?

Its a water bottle, in this case very decorated, it holds water. If the rich want to buy it I have no problem with it. Personally, I will stick with my reverse osmosis filter and the cases of normal bottled water I buy per week.

I wouldn't calling buying a nice water bottle "getting one up" on someone.

It is fair because they made the money, if they want to spend it by going around and buying goodwill clothes to burn they have that right.

I don't even like the notion of having to even purchase water. Water should be one of those things that should be free for everyone, no matter who you are. Bling H20 is indeed fucking disgusting.

Water is free. Go out in the rain and open your mouth. Find a lake or a stream, grab a bucket and collect some. Dig a well. If you want potable water however, you will need to pay.

So what?? The rich bought themselves a lake for their overpriced water. This isn't so much something that causes me to cry out injustice as it is something that makes me want to laugh at these idiotic rich people.

Indeed, it makes me laugh as well. But it's disgusting that this lake's been reserved for the people in the higher tiers of society. Why should it be?

Indeed, it makes me laugh as well. But it's disgusting that this lake's been reserved for the people in the higher tiers of society. Why should it be?

Why shouldn't it be? It's capitalistic economics at it's best (or worse), however you wish to view it.

The bottlers are making lots of moolah, and their product is selling. Yippee.

How is this any different than certain parts of the cow being reserved for the "higher tiers of society"? Can you say filet mignon?

Proof that we will buy anything, though I do like the idea.

You're part of the problem.

Ok guys, water is now especially reserved for those who can afford it.

Water article (http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_world.php?page_zone=150.7.3&storyid=4510905)

This water is gathered from a spring in Tennessee, bottled in "Bling H20" bottles - decorated with diamonds - and sold for £46. For you Americans, that's $90.
Celebrities are already snapping it up.
This disgusts me - people have to walk for miles to get water in some parts of the world, yet over here, it's specially reserved for the super rich and famous. Thoughts?

Uh...what the fuck?

(Shakes head sadly)

How is this any different than certain parts of the cow being reserved for the "higher tiers of society"? Can you say filet mignon?

Did I say I supported any part of anything being reserved for the people with money? No.
We're all here on this Earth together, and nothing should go to someone 'cos they've got a bit more cash.

I think any water that we have to pay for is sad water. Food, water, shelter, and air should be free because we as human beings need those things to survive. How much money we pay is beside the point, and speaks more to our love of branding as an individual statement than anything else.

TANSTAAFL

Everyone pays for it in one way or another. If some idiot wants to pay an extraordinary price for something ordinary, why whine about it?

Did I say I supported any part of anything being reserved for the people with money? No.
We're all here on this Earth together, and nothing should go to someone 'cos they've got a bit more cash.
What is the point of cash then?

Did I say I supported any part of anything being reserved for the people with money? No.
We're all here on this Earth together, and nothing should go to someone 'cos they've got a bit more cash.

But you do seem to have a particular issue with this. I didn't see any other /rant threads dealing with beef cuts, or better made clothes, or beachfront property.

People have their money. People will spend said money in whatever way they deem fit. It's their property to use as they will.

Should I get that plasma screen tv just because Gates can afford it and I can not?

I'm sorry, but generally the more money you have the more you can buy. That's mathematics. And people will produce what other people are willing to buy. That's economics.

You're part of the problem.

That's what yo momma said.


...what?

How is this any different than certain parts of the cow being reserved for the "higher tiers of society"? Can you say filet mignon?

Because water is water is water. There's no "filet mignon" where water is concerned. There's just water.

Would you like some premium canned air along with your designer water? How about a square foot of exclusive, well-appointed sod to stand on while drinking your designer water and breathing your premium air - grown in the finest quality mulch and studded with Austrian crystal, so it ought to be right up your alley.

Because water is water is water. There's no "filet mignon" where water is concerned. There's just water.

Would you like some premium canned air along with your designer water? How about a square foot of exclusive, well-appointed sod to stand on while drinking your designer water and breathing your premium air - grown in the finest quality mulch and studded with Austrian crystal, so it ought to be right up your alley.

Remember...idiot tax.

Because water is water is water. There's no "filet mignon" where water is concerned. There's just water.

Would you like some premium canned air along with your designer water? How about a square foot of exclusive, well-appointed sod to stand on while drinking your designer water and breathing your premium air - grown in the finest quality mulch and studded with Austrian crystal, so it ought to be right up your alley.
Well, right, it is stupid but not injust. Filet mignons are where the rich actually are getting something better than the rest of us. This is just them being retards.

Bah Poland Springs > *

What is the point of cash then?

I'm saying that this is the height of stupidity. Cash isn't for buying water bottles for £46.

But you do seem to have a particular issue with this. I didn't see any other /rant threads dealing with beef cuts, or better made clothes, or beachfront property.

Right, I'll just be off to make a thread about everything that is teh ebil in the world.
I made this thread because it's "topical."

Should I get that plasma screen tv just because Gates can afford it and I can not?

No, because water is a basic neccessity. Plasma TVs are not.

I'm sorry, but generally the more money you have the more you can buy. That's mathematics. And people will produce what other people are willing to buy. That's economics.

But when people are able to buy what millions aren't, there's something wrong with it. When someone produces something that they know won't be affordable to a good deal of people, there's something wrong with that.

You're part of the problem.

What problem is that? The liking nice things problem? Personally, I call it good.

I'm saying that this is the height of stupidity. Cash isn't for buying water bottles for £46.
It is at the height of stupidity. The use of the cash is for whatever the cash holder wants so long as no laws are violated. This violates no laws, hurts no outside people, or anything of this nature. It is just some rich folk buying water bottles, which are already sold to the masses, for ridiculous sums of money.
But when people are able to buy what millions aren't, there's something wrong with it. When someone produces something that they know won't be affordable to a good deal of people, there's something wrong with that. So all luxury goods are bad? Even the stupid ones? Why is it wrong that rich people spend too much for water? I mean, you have a greater cry for injustice at Limos, or filet mignon but this is ridiculous.

What problem is that? The liking nice things problem? Personally, I call it good.

Call it Fred for all I care. If you don't understand what's wrong with this, you fail.

Because water is water is water.

Yes, and? Nobody ever has to put forth an effort to get water? BS!

There's no "filet mignon" where water is concerned. There's just water.

Demostrably false. Food is food. Some food has a higher value assigned due to various factors. Water is water. Some water has a higher value assigned due to various factors.

Would you like some premium canned air along with your designer water? How about a square foot of exclusive, well-appointed sod to stand on while drinking your designer water and breathing your premium air - grown in the finest quality mulch and studded with Austrian crystal, so it ought to be right up your alley.

All of those are packaged and sold. You want the links?

All of those are packaged and sold. You want the links?

Not especially, no. Please don't bother.

I'm saying that this is the height of stupidity. Cash isn't for buying water bottles for £46.

Cash is for whatever you want it for. These water bottles are the height of stupidity, agreed, but I do not read the ethical or moral implications you are indicating.

Right, I'll just be off to make a thread about everything that is teh ebil in the world.
I made this thread because it's "topical."

Fair enough. My point, however, was that there are luxury items in the world, many of which are unnecessary. It's not like $90 bottled water is the only waste of money ever invented, nor the last which people will sink their money into.

No, because water is a basic neccessity. Plasma TVs are not.

Oh, now you are putting a qualifier on your ealier statement that "nothing should go to someone just because they have a little more cash." I took "nothing" literally.

As for necessity, here's the thing: This company is not pushing other bottled water companies out of business, or even forcing them to raise prices. The water from your tap has not magical created a toll of $90. So, everyone is still getting their water, their necessity, at a reasonable price. The existence of this "luxury water" is not in any way hindering anyone else's ability to get water. Again, no ethical, moral, or humanitarian issues.

But when people are able to buy what millions aren't, there's something wrong with it. When someone produces something that they know won't be affordable to a good deal of people, there's something wrong with that.

Arinola, do you honestly believe this? If this philosophy was applied, then many things would not "morally" be able to be produced. Computers would be out the window. Cars would be gone. Air travel, a mere memory.

Why does it matter that this water is not affordable to a good deal of people? Are they lacking because thier water bottle is not bejeweled? Are they being denied water because someone else's water bottle is fancy? No. They are not.

Quite simply, there is absolutely nothing morally wrong with producing something that only the top 1 percentile of incomes can afford. Why? because these are generally unnecessary items, the existence of which does not impede upon the ability to acquire the necessary items, and there are people willing to buy it.

Ok guys, water is now especially reserved for those who can afford it.



Capitalism creates funny things. I worked with an engineering firm over the summer, and our competitor's product does the same as ours for much cheaper, but our products look so much cooler, and people buy ours preferentially.

what a great idea!

i mean come ON. they are selling stuff that you get from the tap for less than a penny for $90. it hurts no one, provides employment and drains off excess cash from stupid rich people.

i wish i could have done it.

Everyone get out my way, my bladder feels full and I have a plane ticket to Tennessee and a prize-winning spring with my name on it!

Seriously, a fool and their money are easily parted. This is trickle-down economics at its best.

Ok guys, water is now especially reserved for those who can afford it.

Water article (http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_world.php?page_zone=150.7.3&storyid=4510905)

This water is gathered from a spring in Tennessee, bottled in "Bling H20" bottles - decorated with diamonds - and sold for £46. For you Americans, that's $90.
Celebrities are already snapping it up.
This disgusts me - people have to walk for miles to get water in some parts of the world, yet over here, it's specially reserved for the super rich and famous. Thoughts?

It's interesting how the article PREFERRED dollars and not pounds, yet you decide to change it to pounds.

It's interesting how the article PREFERRED dollars and not pounds, yet you decide to change it to pounds.

Because I'm British. Problem?

decorated with diamonds

Swarovski crystals are not diamonds.

Swarovski crystals are not diamonds.

Ah. Oops. I stand corrected.

Not for the super rich, for the 'nigga rich.'

Ah. Oops. I stand corrected.

...I take it you missed me saying that back on the first page?

...I take it you missed me saying that back on the first page?

You did? :confused:

EDIT: Oh, so you did. Apologies. I blame the time warp.

Anyone who pays that much is an idiot.

It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money.

Maybe government's should start selling Swarovski-crystal-encrusted bonds to the rich at auction. And you could have companies like Armani and D&G do little sketches on the back. You could make them for a period of one-year, upon which it is the bearer's responsibility to cash in the bond as no further interest will be accrued. If anyone does cash in the bond then hopefully it will have become worthless due to inflation. Even if they cash it in on time it should have sold for more at auction than what is being redeemed.

This is my system for creating a tax-free state funded entirely by the super-stupid rich.

Not especially, no. Please don't bother.

Excellent. Not many here are so willing to admit their faults.

Well, I guess if they own the spring they can do what they want with it...that doesn't make it any more acceptable, mind you.

Of course, this really sounds like one of those things that should be taxed; maybe we could use the money to fund water-improvement and conservation programs in the US and abroad.

Well, I guess if they own the spring they can do what they want with it...that doesn't make it any more acceptable, mind you.

Of course, this really sounds like one of those things that should be taxed; maybe we could use the money to fund water-improvement and conservation programs in the US and abroad.

we already have a stupidity tax.

its called the lottery.

we already have a stupidity tax.

its called the lottery.

Well, why not create another one to punish this unique form of stupidity?

Well, why not create another one to punish this unique form of stupidity?

sales tax is enough

otherwise i dont see any reason to discourage stupid rich people from spending their money on something like this. its not hurting anyone and its spreading their money around.

The whole bottled water phenomenon is an outrage. It is symbolically decadent, but more importantly the needless transport that it facilitates is increasing carbon emissions into the atmosphere.

The whole bottled water phenomenon is an outrage. It is symbolically decadent, but more importantly the needless transport that it facilitates is increasing carbon emissions into the atmosphere.

Hmm, the fact that water is now bottled, labelled and sold to people is quite disgraceful.

Hmm, the fact that water is now bottled, labelled and sold to people is quite disgraceful.
Yes, and it's not just the rich who are at fault, it's almost everybody.

Why do people in Ireland want water from France? I think all the differences are either imagined or not worth paying for even if they exist.

I also blame governments like SPAIN especially, for failing to provide a quality water service.

The whole bottled water phenomenon is an outrage. It is symbolically decadent, but more importantly the needless transport that it facilitates is increasing carbon emissions into the atmosphere.

Well, it tastes better (marginally). And it's easier to carry.

Well, it tastes better (marginally). And it's easier to carry.
I agree with the second sentance, but honestly, when you have people importing gallon jugs, it's ridiculous.

Hmm, the fact that water is now bottled, labelled and sold to people is quite disgraceful.

There are some legitimate uses of bottled water; its portability is good for bringing potable water to places that might not be able to have it, especially after disasters.

It's also good for exercise and things like that, but just buying bottled water to drink it in place of perfectly fine tap water is ridiculous.

The whole bottled water phenomenon is an outrage. It is symbolically decadent, but more importantly the needless transport that it facilitates is increasing carbon emissions into the atmosphere.
well, to be fair, sometimes there isn't always easy access to clean drinking water.

It's their money.

I agree that £46 for a bottle of H2O is a bit crazy...mind you though, given that world population is growing by around 200k every single day, do you think that we may all one day be paying through the nose for common commodities like water? Also, One day those “people” aren't going to want to walk miles for water...they'll need to fight for it like everyone else! Sign of things to come perhaps…?

But when people are able to buy what millions aren't, there's something wrong with it.

Are you implying no one but celebrities can buy water?

...I take it you missed me saying that back on the first page?

As did I. That's what I get for people reading my posts and I never theirs...

My favorite part of this is the crystal bottle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_crystal
(See: Health effects)

Excellent. Not many here are so willing to admit their faults.

I admit nothing save my deep and abiding loathing of needless pedantry.

Why wouldn't they just buy their own goddamn lake?

Because that would prelude them not being stupid shallow asses.

You know, people sometimes call me a socialist or whatever for thinking the rich should pay a lot more in taxes.

But if they're buying this useless crap, clearly they don't need all that money or even have a good use for it.

Yay for the idiot tax!

It's their money.
QFT. I wonder if Paris Hilton will be sighted carrying one of these rather tacky things around. :)

QFT. I wonder if Paris Hilton will be sighted carrying one of these rather tacky things around. :)

Rather tacky? Dear God, we're approaching H2 levels of gaudiness here.

QFT. I wonder if Paris Hilton will be sighted carrying one of these rather tacky things around. :)

$5,000 purse in one hand, $90 bottled water in the other?

That's hot.

$5,000 purse in one hand, $90 bottled water in the other?

That's hot.
All she'd need after that is one of these:

http://www.weddingsrus.net/veils/tiara.jpg

:)

Let them drink Evian.

All she'd need after that is one of these:

http://www.weddingsrus.net/veils/tiara.jpg

:)

Let them drink Evian.

Evian is sooo cheap!

Let them drink Bling H2O!

Further proof (if any needed) that money doesn't correlate well with intelligence nor taste.

Are you implying no one but celebrities can buy water?

No, but there is a lack of clean drinking water.

And there is nothing wrong about this, the worse is when people waste water when ohters have no access to it. This encourages those crazy, stupid people to be actually drink the water and not just pour it down the sink.

No, but there is a lack of clean drinking water.

And there is nothing wrong about this, the worse is when people waste water when ohters have no access to it. This encourages those crazy, stupid people to be actually drink the water and not just pour it down the sink.

The problem with this argument is the same problem with the "eat everything on your plate because there are starving people in Africa" argument - it's not a question of the amount available, but one of lack of distribution. The water that in this article simply isn't going to be unavailable to people in places with a lack of potable water.

Bling Water? Looks like they're just paying for the packaging. It's probably no different from tap water. I mean, water has the same chemical formula no matter what label it's under.