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Best Rock and Roll Frontman?

Harlesburg
28-01-2007, 12:55
Who is the best frontman for a band?
How do you say who is the best?
Yes i blatantly stole this from here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=433087) with a few alterations.
Lunatic Goofballs
28-01-2007, 12:59
Hmm. Tough one. SOme of the best frontmen were also horrible people and/or difficult to work with. For instance, David Lee Roth was awesome. But a total dickhead. But a good frontman also has to be an over-the-top persona.

So the difficult part is balancing talent with outrageousness with respect for his band with timelessness.

I gotta go with Steve Tyler from Aerosmith. *nod*
Ibramia
28-01-2007, 13:04
Diamond Dave is up there, but... I'll have to say either... Freddie Mercury or David Bowie.
I V Stalin
28-01-2007, 13:12
Away from the usual suggestions, Pelle Almqvist of the Hives is pretty cool.

Zack de la Rocha (RATM) and Marc Bolan (T-Rex) were also good.
Rubiconic Crossings
28-01-2007, 13:33
Wot...no Ozzie?
Fachistos
28-01-2007, 13:48
Lots of good options. However, my choice is Layne Staley. Watch Live Facelift, and you'll know why.
Pompous world
28-01-2007, 14:42
freddie,

on a sidenote Chinese Democracy is going to be released THIS YEAR!, apparently its quite good, though it would want to be after 10 years in gestation
Swilatia
28-01-2007, 14:49
no-one says "rock and roll". it's just rock.
I V Stalin
28-01-2007, 14:51
freddie,

on a sidenote Chinese Democracy is going to be released THIS YEAR!, apparently its quite good, though it would want to be after 10 years in gestation
Yeah, and Duke Nukem Forever as well. :rolleyes:

Just because they've said it's finished and a release date has been announced, doesn't mean it'll actually be released.
Ibramia
28-01-2007, 15:21
Okay, first... hendrix's name is Jimi, not jimmy, and he was ripping off pete townshend when he destroyed his gittar, so that whole line is... well, no.

Also, marc bolan gets a thumbs up, too.
Grave_n_idle
28-01-2007, 15:25
Trent Reznor. Or... Ogre.
Bodies Without Organs
28-01-2007, 16:34
Jimmy Hendrix (The Jimmy Hendrix Experience) First ever destruction of an instrument on stage

I think actually the Who were smashing up their guitars, kits and amps before Hendrix was setting his on fire.

Quick check... aye - Townshend was trashing instruments when Hendrix was still playing for the Isley Brothers.

I doubt, however that anyone will ever know when the first ever destruction of an instrument on stage occured, but I highly doubt it was in the C20th. Accidents will happen...
Pompous world
28-01-2007, 16:37
Yeah, and Duke Nukem Forever as well. :rolleyes:

Just because they've said it's finished and a release date has been announced, doesn't mean it'll actually be released.

I think its meant to be the soundtrack to some film coming out shortly, I know this for a fact that its got to be released because its tied in with something else which is unrelated to it, like the film I mentioned but cant remember the name of
Hydesland
28-01-2007, 16:37
I think actually the Who were smashing up their guitars, kits and amps before Hendrix was setting his on fire.

Actually, I heard the first was Beethoven who apparently smashed one of the violinists violin on stage out of anger.;)
Johnny B Goode
28-01-2007, 16:51
Who is the best frontman for a band?
How do you say who is the best?
Yes i blatantly stole this from here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=433087) with a few alterations.

It's a tie between Jimi Hendrix and Bon Scott. But Scott could play the fricken bagpipes. That's jsut awesome.
Bodies Without Organs
28-01-2007, 16:52
Jim Morrison (The Doors) Stripped naked on stage, was then arrested for indecency

...and Jim Morrison never got naked on stage either. He may have got his John Thomas out, but so what? Nobody is sure if he did. Certainly ain't in the GG Allin league of things.

I am beginning to have my doubts about thew rigour of the research that went into this poll.
Radical Centrists
28-01-2007, 17:23
...and Jim Morrison never got naked on stage either. He may have got his John Thomas out, but so what? Nobody is sure if he did. Certainly ain't in the GG Allin league of things.

I am beginning to have my doubts about thew rigour of the research that went into this poll.

Plus, doesn't Tommy Lee do that on a regular basis? He was in town last year and I heard he wiped it out on stage. Apparently, the times HAVE changed.
Daistallia 2104
28-01-2007, 17:41
...and Jim Morrison never got naked on stage either. He may have got his John Thomas out, but so what? Nobody is sure if he did. Certainly ain't in the GG Allin league of things.

Maybe, indeed.

I am beginning to have my doubts about thew rigour of the research that went into this poll.

Indeed, indeed. Tis why I refuse to vote in it.
The Mindset
28-01-2007, 17:46
Freddy Mercury. By far. The rest relied on cheap stunts. He had immense stage presence.
Dododecapod
28-01-2007, 19:02
Mercury was The Man!
Andaluciae
28-01-2007, 19:04
Tie between Plant and Scott.
Kinda Sensible people
28-01-2007, 19:18
Other.

To clarify, they all suck. Arena Rock bullshit to the nth degree.
Evil Turnips
28-01-2007, 19:53
Jack Black should be up there somewhere, but then again, Freddie Mercury is God, so...

*Votes Freddie*

Btw, wouldn't you say Angus Young is more of the frontman in AC/DC?
Potarius
28-01-2007, 22:00
Freddy Mercury. By far. The rest relied on cheap stunts. He had immense stage presence.

John Lydon has his stage presence beaten in spades. Not only does he have stage presence, he has presence in every single aspect of his life. His interviews are especially entertaining.

Bob Mould has a hell of a presence, too. Total energy, and his voice is timeless.
Bodies Without Organs
29-01-2007, 01:51
Other.

To clarify, they all suck. Arena Rock bullshit to the nth degree.

What kind of arenas do they have around your end of the world where bands like the Stooges play 'em?
Johnny B Goode
29-01-2007, 01:52
Jack Black should be up there somewhere, but then again, Freddie Mercury is God, so...

*Votes Freddie*

Btw, wouldn't you say Angus Young is more of the frontman in AC/DC?

That's sort of what I thought.
Terrorist Cakes
29-01-2007, 01:53
Morrissey. GoogleImageSearch "creepy man," and he comes up on the first page. That's something to be proud of!
I V Stalin
29-01-2007, 01:59
Morrissey. GoogleImageSearch "creepy man," and he comes up on the first page. That's something to be proud of!
It's not surprising when you consider he recently (in the last year, anyway) said that violence against animal researchers is ok. He's a dick.
Terrorist Cakes
29-01-2007, 02:13
It's not surprising when you consider he recently (in the last year, anyway) said that violence against animal researchers is ok. He's a dick.

Oh, he's probably the most arrogant man in the world. But he's a brilliant musician, and one of the greatest lyricists of all time.
Rosanica
29-01-2007, 03:08
Where's Geddy Lee?

>.>

<.<

Seriously. He plays synth, bass, sings, and does his laundry at the same time. If that doesn't rock I don't know what does.

My second vote goes to Diamond Dave though... VAN HALEN UNITED. YES.
MrMopar
29-01-2007, 03:10
Daltrey, Morrison and Bonny Scott.
Avisron
29-01-2007, 03:13
Cobain.
Kinda Sensible people
29-01-2007, 03:18
What kind of arenas do they have around your end of the world where bands like the Stooges play 'em?

Missed him.

Still... All told, the list sucks. Iggy Pop doesn't deserve the Arena Rock label, but that doesn't make him any good.

If nothing else: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Ring lost him any of my respect he ever had.
Bodies Without Organs
29-01-2007, 03:25
If nothing else: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Ring lost him any of my respect he ever had.

If nothing else this (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1004061iggypop3.html) and pages prior and subsequent will at least make you respect his road crew.

A work of pure genius.
Nadkor
29-01-2007, 03:31
freddie,

on a sidenote Chinese Democracy is going to be released THIS YEAR!, apparently its quite good, though it would want to be after 10 years in gestation

Trust me, it will be a massive letdown (not that I like G+R anyway, I mean for people who do)
East Lithuania
29-01-2007, 03:35
Why isn't Ozzy up there?!?!? or adam leota
Rosanica
29-01-2007, 03:38
Why isn't Ozzy up there?!?!? or adam leota

I blame MTV
Callisdrun
29-01-2007, 03:42
Emperor Magus Caligula of Dark Funeral.
Kinda Sensible people
29-01-2007, 04:17
If nothing else this (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1004061iggypop3.html) and pages prior and subsequent will at least make you respect his road crew.

A work of pure genius.

They are an absurdly expensive gig to host, aren't they?

And I laughed.
New Granada
29-01-2007, 04:20
Freddy Mercury or Mick Jagger
Ibramia
29-01-2007, 05:37
Cobain.

Oh mah GAWD, you have got to be kidding me. That man almost single-handedly killed rock&roll.
Kinda Sensible people
29-01-2007, 05:42
Oh mah GAWD, you have got to be kidding me. That man almost single-handedly killed rock&roll.

Given the snobbish culture that Rock'n'Roll has these days, it's a crying shame that he didn't.
Xenophobialand
29-01-2007, 06:13
Jack Black should be up there somewhere, but then again, Freddie Mercury is God, so...

*Votes Freddie*

Btw, wouldn't you say Angus Young is more of the frontman in AC/DC?

[Kyle Broflovski's Mom]

What what what?

[/Kyle Broflovski's Mom]

Don't say things like that. At least not on rock n' roll appreciation threads. Angus Young is a great guitarist, and he's great for watching solos, but by himself he's just a short dude spazzing on the floor with a guitar. Bon Scott by contrast was a freaking force of nature. He's the guy who actually lived the sex, drugs, and rock n' roll motif AC/DC is known for.

So, just so we're clear: Angus Young is a great guitarist with a penchant for driving rhythyms and sonic goodness who also happens to be one of the great short men in history (he's cooler than Yoda, for instance). But Bon Scott is a ball of unbridled force and charisma who was so potent he could make straight men want to sleep with him.
Anti-Social Darwinism
29-01-2007, 07:42
They're all good, but I have to go with Freddie Mercury.

(or Ian Anderson)

(or frontwoman Johnette Napolitano of Concrete Blond)
Steel Butterfly
29-01-2007, 07:45
While AC/DC is my favorite band, I'm more of a Brian Johnson fan.

I voted Axl, but I think David Lee Roth and Sebastian Bach are both amazing as well.
Steel Butterfly
29-01-2007, 07:47
Cobain.

Smells like bullshit...
MrMopar
29-01-2007, 07:58
Townshend was breaking instruments on stage when Hendrix had just gotten booted out of the Army...
Harlesburg
29-01-2007, 08:53
freddie,

on a sidenote Chinese Democracy is going to be released THIS YEAR!, apparently its quite good, though it would want to be after 10 years in gestation
Just like 7 years ago.:(
Boonytopia
29-01-2007, 09:02
Freddy, without a doubt.
Harlesburg
29-01-2007, 09:22
no-one says "rock and roll". it's just rock.
No one says Poland because it's a piece of shit and should be split up between Germany and Russia!
Okay, first... hendrix's name is Jimi, not jimmy, and he was ripping off pete townshend when he destroyed his gittar, so that whole line is... well, no.

Also, marc bolan gets a thumbs up, too.
Blame Mods can be so cruel
I think actually the Who were smashing up their guitars, kits and amps before Hendrix was setting his on fire.

Quick check... aye - Townshend was trashing instruments when Hendrix was still playing for the Isley Brothers.

I doubt, however that anyone will ever know when the first ever destruction of an instrument on stage occured, but I highly doubt it was in the C20th. Accidents will happen...
Who is the best frontman for a band?
How do you say who is the best?
Yes i blatantly stole this from here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=433087) with a few alterations.
So blame Mods can be so cruel.
Fidius Hardrada; 45BC, smashed his lute over the head over invading Gothic tribesmen...
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...and Jim Morrison never got naked on stage either. He may have got his John Thomas out, but so what? Nobody is sure if he did. Certainly ain't in the GG Allin league of things.

I am beginning to have my doubts about thew rigour of the research that went into this poll.
Blame Mods can be so cruel.
Plus, doesn't Tommy Lee do that on a regular basis? He was in town last year and I heard he wiped it out on stage. Apparently, the times HAVE changed.
Mike Patton urinated on the crowd ones, but he denies it.
Maybe, indeed.



Indeed, indeed. Tis why I refuse to vote in it.
Spoil sport.
Jack Black should be up there somewhere, but then again, Freddie Mercury is God, so...

*Votes Freddie*

Btw, wouldn't you say Angus Young is more of the frontman in AC/DC?
Blame Iggy.
I blame MTV
Wot...no Ozzie?
Why isn't Ozzy up there?!?!? or adam leota
Because it wasn't on the original 9 listed by modscanbesocruel and Steve Tyler went in because Lunatic Goofballs suggested hiim and Freddie was omitted in the original.
Blame Iggy Pop.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-01-2007, 09:23
Cobain.

Fuck Cobain. :)
Gartref
29-01-2007, 09:43
I can never pick one of the poll options. I'll go off the board with....


Robbie Robertson.
Avisron
29-01-2007, 17:49
I'm glad it seems like most people here don't like Nirvana. I have problems liking things I perceive as "popular."
Breitenburg
30-01-2007, 03:26
Syd Barrett. He was a madman, and did things no one else could even dream of in an LCD induced state.

And after him, Ozzy, Alice Cooper, and Kurt Cobain.
Steel Butterfly
30-01-2007, 04:09
Kurt Cobain.

Cobain mumbled nonsense into the microphone and wrote songs that even I can play on guitar. Hardly anything "best" about that.
Sominium Effectus
30-01-2007, 04:14
Trent Reznor. Or... Ogre.

I don't know that Trent Reznor counts as "rock and roll"....even by the most extreme stretch.

We might get away with naming him the "Best Alternative/Electronica/Industrial" frontman though.
Grape-eaters
30-01-2007, 04:16
Ozzy, I think.


Bruce Dickinson is also, I feel a great frontman. Just because he was really ridiculous... Running up stairways to nowhere and shit...
Killinginthename
30-01-2007, 04:38
Away from the usual suggestions, Pelle Almqvist of the Hives is pretty cool.

Zack de la Rocha (RATM) and Marc Bolan (T-Rex) were also good.

My vote goes to Zack!
But I may be biased ;)

You can hear one of his famous rants here (http://media.putfile.com/Wake-Up-Live)

“We gotta regain knowledge again, and we got to gain an understanding again, of who we are.
Not just those chosen to fuel systems, but individuals who have the power to criticize and analyze and attack unjustice when it becomes prevalent and apparent in front of our faces like it is every day in ours right now.
We need to begin to awaken and use our ability and our strengths to combat systems which continue to perpetrate ignorance amongst our spirit and amongst our minds.
We been all been put to sleep, put to a sleep to a system who want you not to act, through a system that would rather see all of you at that bar drinking beer, filling you minds, being put to sleep with beer, with drugs than rather then acting against it and fighting a system that has been perpetrating imperialist lies and fucking bullshit for five hundred years.
Yeah so fucking drink up or fucking wake up, your part of the solution or your part of the fucking problem!
We could talk about this all fucking day!
But know I am sick and tired of my own complacence in my life, and I know I’m fucking sick of yours.
So fucking stand up and stop fucking sleeping
Wake up”
Breitenburg
30-01-2007, 12:45
Cobain mumbled nonsense into the microphone and wrote songs that even I can play on guitar. Hardly anything "best" about that.

Thats why he's one of my favorites. And live he was great.

People have no respect for Nirvana anymore.
Delator
30-01-2007, 13:29
Ozzy!
The blessed Chris
30-01-2007, 14:44
Purely in regards to stagemanship and charisma, Freddie Mercury wins. However, if onyl for the immortal line "ever get the feeling you've been cheated?", Johnny Rotten wins.
Drunk commies deleted
30-01-2007, 16:40
Jimmi Hendrix definitely wasn't the first to destroy his instrument on stage. Jerry Lee Lewis set fire to his piano on stage sometime in the fifties. He's more rock and roll than almost anyone on the poll. I'd vote for someone like Alice Cooper or Marilyn Manson though. They're showmen on stage, not just frontmen.