NationStates Jolt Archive


Another ex-Soviet state leader refuses to leave...

Sel Appa
28-01-2007, 06:13
Uzbek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks) President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Uzbekistan) Islam Karimov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islom_Karimov) is out of legal options to extend his long reign in Uzbekistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan) as his term (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_limit) comes to a close, but many think he won't leave. I happen to know three people born in Uzbekistan, they are all Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians) though...

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070127/ap_on_re_eu/uzbekistan_karimov)

ALMATY, Kazakhstan - Nearly a week after his term elapsed, the former Communist strongman who has kept a tight grip on Uzbekistan for more than 15 years shows no sign of vacating the presidential office.

The clock ran out on Islam Karimov's second term on Sunday, but there has been no official recognition of the fact — a sign his hold on power remains strong and that he has no intention of leaving, analysts say.

They say Karimov, who has eradicated opposition and silenced dissent in the Central Asian nation, appears to be exploiting a legal ambiguity.

While the Uzbek constitution limits terms to seven years, the country also has a law that says a presidential election must be held in December of the year in which the term expires — in this case December 2007.

"There is no sign that Karimov is preparing to leave and he is apparently going to stand for and get another term in December," said Michael Hall, Central Asia project director of the International Crisis Group think-tank.

Karimov, who will turn 69 on Tuesday, became the top Communist boss in this former Soviet republic in 1989. He has won two presidential elections since the Soviet collapse — in 1991 and 1999 — and had his term extended twice, once through parliament and another time in a referendum.

Both election victories were landslides with more than 90 percent of the votes, but neither was recognized by international observers as free or fair.

Many observers fear that the Karimov government's oppressive control of the country could radicalize Islamic fundamentalists and lead to an explosion of violence in an already troubled part of the world.

Uzbekistan borders
Afghanistan and hosted a U.S. air base supporting the Afghan military campaign. But Uzbekistan closed the base in the wake of Western criticism over the government suppression of an uprising in the eastern city of Andijan in 2005.

Human rights activists say some 700 people were killed, including unarmed civilians, but the government says fewer than 200 people died. Karimov rejected criticism and calls for an independent investigation from the United States, the
European Union and others.

Experts had predicted that the country — Central Asia's most populous with 27 million people — would become an engine for regional development because of comparatively well-developed industries and energy self-sufficiency.

But Karimov, seeing the economic chaos that swept other ex-Soviet republics when they started market reforms, maintained a centralized economy and imposed restrictive trade rules.

In recent years, after pro-democracy uprisings in Georgia, Ukraine and neighboring Kyrgyzstan, Karimov has shown increasing suspicion of the West. Along with evicting the U.S. base, he has evicted most Western media, aid agencies and non-governmental organizations.

"The atmosphere is stifling. There are no international organizations, no journalists to turn to," said Elena Urlayeva, one of a small number of rights activists who remain in the country despite harassment.

"Karimov is going to stay for an extra year, but he is a former president now. It's totally illegal, it's usurpation of power," Urlayeva said by telephone from Tashkent.

"But there is nothing we can do," she said. "To stage public protests would be the same as facing a firing squad."
AchillesLastStand
28-01-2007, 06:15
I wonder what Borat would say...
Posi
28-01-2007, 06:17
Praise great nation Kazakhstan?
Congo--Kinshasa
28-01-2007, 06:24
Well, I suppose he could just keep boiling his opponents alive...

Sick fuck. :mad:
Kryozerkia
28-01-2007, 06:24
...and parade out America's finest frat boys! :D
Ariddia
28-01-2007, 12:48
While the Uzbek constitution limits terms to seven years, the country also has a law that says a presidential election must be held in December of the year in which the term expires — in this case December 2007.


Well, that's messy...
Swilatia
28-01-2007, 13:12
Well, I suppose he could just keep boiling his opponents alive...

Sick fuck. :mad:
maybe thats why Kazakhstan and it's people hate Uzbekistan so much...
The Infinite Dunes
28-01-2007, 13:28
Did anyone ever expect anything else of Karimov...?

The west dealings with the Karimov just sicken me... I would write a short post here, but there is so much to write about that I'm not sure where to start... I could right a dissertation on the subject... which is what I aim to do next year incidently.

Gah... their complicity, aiding and abetting... just everything...
Rubiconic Crossings
28-01-2007, 14:52
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/

I love my government me....
Congo--Kinshasa
28-01-2007, 15:07
maybe thats why Kazakhstan and it's people hate Uzbekistan so much...

They do?
The Infinite Dunes
28-01-2007, 15:08
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/

I love my government me....Read the book and reading through the references.
Rubiconic Crossings
28-01-2007, 15:22
Read the book and reading through the references.

I've not read his book but I have read his articles and watched him when he's been on the telly...and that our government dismissed all that he says is a damming indictment on Smiler.

I really am starting to wonder about the circumstances of Robin Cooks death...I mean I am not a conspiracy freak but...
Heculisis
28-01-2007, 15:28
Praise great nation Kazakhstan?

More like: " Those assholes in Uzbekistan!!"
Swilatia
28-01-2007, 15:31
They do?
you never heard the kazakhstan national anthem, with it's line "kazakhstan friend of all except uzbekistan"?
Congo--Kinshasa
28-01-2007, 15:51
you never heard the kazakhstan national anthem, with it's line "kazakhstan friend of all except uzbekistan"?

Is that the real anthem, or the one in Borat (which I have not seen yet)?
Swilatia
28-01-2007, 16:12
Is that the real anthem, or the one in Borat (which I have not seen yet)?
The real one. You think a different one is used in Borat?
Congo--Kinshasa
28-01-2007, 16:14
The real one. You think a different one is used in Borat?

Odd. No mention of Uzbekistan. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Kazakhstan_%28anthem%29#English_translation) :confused:
Swilatia
28-01-2007, 16:18
Odd. No mention of Uzbekistan. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Kazakhstan_%28anthem%29#English_translation) :confused:

that translation is all wrong. here is the correct translation:


Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.

Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool.
It’s length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Northern fence of Jewtown.
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.

Kazakhstan industry best in world.
We invented toffee and trouser belt.
Kazakhstan’s prostitutes cleanest in the region.
Except of course for Turkmenistan’s.

Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown
Congo--Kinshasa
28-01-2007, 16:24
that translation is all wrong. here is the correct translation:

As I suspected, Borat. :p
Swilatia
28-01-2007, 16:27
As I suspected, Borat. :p

yeah, because they use the real national anthem in Borat.
Sel Appa
28-01-2007, 18:09
*sigh*
Johnny B Goode
28-01-2007, 18:46
Uzbek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks) President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Uzbekistan) Islam Karimov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islom_Karimov) is out of legal options to extend his long reign in Uzbekistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan) as his term (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_limit) comes to a close, but many think he won't leave. I happen to know three people born in Uzbekistan, they are all Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians) though...

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070127/ap_on_re_eu/uzbekistan_karimov)

Flush him out with heavy metal music.