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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/anatomy_lesson

"YONKERS, N.Y. (AP) - A teacher has been barred from classes for having his seventh-grade pupils draw male genitalia on the blackboard during health class, school officials say.

Pierorazio said the teacher opened a lesson on human anatomy and sexuality by asking students in a class of boys and girls to volunteer to come to the board to draw male anatomy.

Fierstein said the state's seventh-grade curriculum calls for the anatomy lessons but "as a teacher you have to be sensitive and you have to look at the age appropriateness of any activity that you ask a child to do. And this was just not appropriate." "

So, when we had to colour pictures of genitalia, that was harmful to us? Our teacher should have been fired?

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

Strange....in our biology course being able to draw and label a basic diagram of both flavours of reproductive organs was a requirement.

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

bad experience at a haunted house one halloween

Strange....in our biology course being able to draw and label a basic diagram of both flavours of reproductive organs was a requirement.

Ohhh, I just love the flavours.

Um...what?

Anyway, yeah, for us too. I highly doubt the teacher had any sort of expectation that what he was doing was in any way inappropriate. Ridiculous.

Parents these days...

Well, drawing a penis isn't universally bad. It really depends. Like, on how thick, hard, veiny, hairy, erect, long and circumcised the penis is.

Seventh grade. That's like 13-14, no? And this is supposed to injure them somehow? That is so loony.

Haha, they should have seen what we were shown when we were 12; a film that contained authentic sex-scenes and that also dealt with, dare I utter it, other sex than the heterosexual kind! OMG! What shall become of our country!?!?!?! We might even turn out having sane attitudes towards sex! :O

Well, drawing a penis isn't universally bad. It really depends. Like, on how thick, hard, veiny, hairy, erect, long and circumcised the penis is.

Now had he said, 'alright kids, I want you to draw a thick, hard, veiny, hairy, erect, long and circumcised ejaculating penis'...that would be quite another story.

But I highly doubt that was the case. This school is off its nut.

Seventh grade. That's like 13-14, no? And this is supposed to injure them somehow? That is so loony.

Haha, they should have seen what we were shown when we were 12; a film that contained authentic sex-scenes and that also dealt with, dare I utter it, other sex than the heterosexual kind! OMG! What shall become of our country!?!?!?!

I know...we had to watch a woman giving birth, full frontal view, in grade 8. Ewww. Scared us into not getting pregnant though:) Still no athetic sex scenes, het or not. Wow. Sweden rocks.

This must seem doubly weird to people coming from countries that don't have excessive fear of sex and sexuality.

I'd like to move to Sweden, Fass. Put me up in your closet for a bit?

This school is off its nut.

Maybe they got erased.

Buh? The teacher is teaching about "human anatomy and sexuality." Exactly how is learning what penises look like and how they function not an essential part of "human anatomy and sexuality"?

People are so weird...

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

Because reproductive organs brainwash the children into becoming naturally curious kids who would ask questions about their pee-pees and why some people have different ones?

Dear Jesus, Neesika, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Now had he said, 'alright kids, I want you to draw a thick, hard, veiny, hairy, erect, long and circumcised ejaculating penis'...that would be quite another story.

But I highly doubt that was the case. This school is off its nut.

If he dropped his pants and said "Here's some inspiration".............

If he dropped his pants and said "Here's some inspiration".............

Quit being a penis, Ifreann. :p

Quit being a penis, Ifreann. :p

Best keep him away from children. Genitalia are harmful to our kids for some reason...

And that sounds really bad...

Strange....in our biology course being able to draw and label a basic diagram of both flavours of reproductive organs was a requirement.
Ditto. Seriously, this is appropriate for 11 year olds over here in Blighty.

So, when we had to colour pictures of genitalia, that was harmful to us? Our teacher should have been fired?

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

Its not us. Its just the folks over in Yonkers it seems... they're just a tad bit extra sensitive about the pee-pee! :p

Best keep him away from children. Genitalia are harmful to our kids for some reason...

It's scientifically proven that genitalia brainwash young children into asking awkward questions and knowing about a perfectly natural biological function.

I know...we had to watch a woman giving birth, full frontal view, in grade 8. Ewww. Scared us into not getting pregnant though:) Still no athetic sex scenes, het or not. Wow. Sweden rocks.

It's called "Kärlekens språk" and for some reason English wikipedia claims that it's "a pornographic film masquerading as a documentary or scientific film".

This must seem doubly weird to people coming from countries that don't have excessive fear of sex and sexuality.

It comes across as positively antediluvian, but then again most things about the US do..

I'd like to move to Sweden, Fass. Put me up in your closet for a bit?

I have to warn you that it's pretty small.

Quit being a penis, Ifreann. :p
But....but....it's so hard. Oh the innuendo
Best keep him away from children. Genitalia are harmful to our kids for some reason...

And that sounds really bad...

:(

Penises are part of the Gay Agenda. Clearly the teacher is trying to assimilate her students into the Gay Collective. *nod*

Now had he said, 'alright kids, I want you to draw a thick, hard, veiny, hairy, erect, long and circumcised ejaculating penis'...that would be quite another story.

But I highly doubt that was the case. This school is off its nut.

In all seriousness, if he just set a bunch of teenagers onto the blackboard with some chalk, and then said, "Okay, now draw some penises," that's going to be trouble too.

:confused: He was hired to teach human anatomy and sexuality then gets in trouble for doing his job? Damn, if they don't want the kids to know what that "sticky outie thingie" and that "inie thingie" is, why the hell did they have a class in anatomy and sexuality?

Penises are part of the Gay Agenda. Clearly the teacher is trying to assimilate her students into the Gay Collective. *nod*
Jesus Christ! The gheys are collecting our children! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Penises are part of the Gay Agenda. Clearly the teacher is trying to assimilate her students into the Gay Collective. *nod*

We are the Gay Borg. Your fabulousness and fashion sense will be added to our own. Resistince is futilehttp://forums.ratedesi.com/images/smilies/greddysmiley.gif

We are the Gay Borg. Your fabulousness and fashion sense will be added to our own. Resistince is futilehttp://forums.ratedesi.com/images/smilies/greddysmiley.gif

"I look forward to ruling you with an iron, but lubed, fist."

I think Fass said it over the summer ;)

Your fabulousness and fashion sense will be added to our own.

Perish the thought! No, what will happen is that our fabulousness and our fashion sense will be dictated to you.

Perish the thought! No, what will happen is that our fabulousness and our fashion sense will be dictated to you.

And you will rule him with an iron (but lubed) fist. ;)

We are the Gay Borg. Your fabulousness and fashion sense will be added to our own. Resistince is futilehttp://forums.ratedesi.com/images/smilies/greddysmiley.gif

A rare moment captured on video: A gay assimilation in progress! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-_y1rEaK7g) :D

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

They look really gross, like the rest of the human body. I don't think he should have been fired, though. We had to label diagrams of reproductive organs, I think, or at least look at the diagrams, in ninth grade (I can't really remember for certain). I don't know if this would have bothered me as much in seventh grade now as it would now, because I'm not sure I had understood that there was a connection between reproductive organs and sex. At that point I think I thought that sex was when married people just slept (literally were sleeping) in the same bed naked. It didn't occur to me that people actually had to do something. That's just gross. So I guess that might be why they seem so gross to me personally. I'm not sure though. They might just be inherently gross. I don't know. I'm not sure if anything I've just typed makes any sense at all.

I know...we had to watch a woman giving birth, full frontal view, in grade 8. Ewww. Scared us into not getting pregnant though:) Still no athetic sex scenes, het or not. Wow. Sweden rocks.

This must seem doubly weird to people coming from countries that don't have excessive fear of sex and sexuality.

I'd like to move to Sweden, Fass. Put me up in your closet for a bit?

I don't think Fass has owned a closet for quite some time.

And you will rule him with an iron (but lubed) fist. ;)

Why do people remember things I say for such a long time?

I don't think Fass has owned a closet for quite some time.

Well, I do prefer jugend wardrobes.

Why do people remember things I say for such a long time?

Because you're annoying and repetitive?

A rare moment captured on video: A gay assimilation in progress! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-_y1rEaK7g) :D

It's both haunting and disturbing at the same time...

Why do people remember things I say for such a long time?

I have a long memory.

Because you're annoying and repetitive?

No doubt.

Perish the thought! No, what will happen is that our fabulousness and our fashion sense will be dictated to you.
Maybe you'll get lucky and there'll turn out to be a fabulousness gene that could be bred into dominance.
A rare moment captured on video: A gay assimilation in progress! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-_y1rEaK7g) :D

Nooooo, run Japanese man, ruuuuuuuuuun!



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

In all seriousness, if he just set a bunch of teenagers onto the blackboard with some chalk, and then said, "Okay, now draw some penises," that's going to be trouble too.

It is a clear-cut case of sex discrimination. The teacher didn’t ask the girls to come to the board and draw vaginas. :eek:

Why do people remember things I say for such a long time?

I had it sigged for a while, it probably worked it's way into their memory.

I had it sigged for a while, it probably worked it's way into their memory.

Speaking of sigs, check your damn TG box.

I don't know. I'm not sure if anything I've just typed makes any sense at all.

It doesn't to me. :confused:

Speaking of sigs, check your damn TG box.

Bleh, leave me alone, I don't have a puppet.

Oh, nevermind.

It doesn't to me. :confused:

Sorry.:(

I don't think Fass has owned a closet for quite some time.

Why because he doesn't live in one? :p

Haha, they should have seen what we were shown when we were 12; a film that contained authentic sex-scenes and that also dealt with, dare I utter it, other sex than the heterosexual kind! OMG! What shall become of our country!?!?!?! We might even turn out having sane attitudes towards sex! :O


Jaysus forbid....Then everybody would be doing it....

:confused: He was hired to teach human anatomy and sexuality then gets in trouble for doing his job? Damn, if they don't want the kids to know what that "sticky outie thingie" and that "inie thingie" is, why the hell did they have a class in anatomy and sexuality?

I'm assuming here that all of this of couse took place in the US?

When I was in 8th Grade, and we were talking about human anatomy, they gave us the option of leaving if we, or our parents, would get offended by this.

When I was in 8th Grade, and we were talking about human anatomy, they gave us the option of leaving if we, or our parents, would get offended by this.

Did many people leave?

Strange....in our biology course being able to draw and label a basic diagram of both flavours of reproductive organs was a requirement.

Indeed.

Haha, they should have seen what we were shown when we were 12;[..]OMG! What shall become of our country!?!?!?! [..]
Exhibit A .. ?

When I was in 8th Grade, and we were talking about human anatomy, they gave us the option of leaving if we, or our parents, would get offended by this.Offended by what? Do people who are "offended" by human anatomy ever look down while they piss? People who are "offended" by body parts, knowledge of body parts, or knowledge in general should all be forced to move to another planet.

Best keep him away from children. Genitalia are harmful to our kids for some reason...

And that sounds really bad...

Yes, they are harmful. We must protect our children. *Fetches razor blade*

Offended by what? Do people who are "offended" by human anatomy ever look down while they piss? People who are "offended" by body parts, knowledge of body parts, or knowledge in general should all be forced to move to another planet.

I don't understand why people are "offended" at their kids learning about their bodies.

Yes, they are harmful. We must protect our children. *Fetches razor blade*

think of the children! :eek: :mp5:

:rolleyes:

I don't understand why people are "offended" at their kids learning about their bodies.

To put it simply, people are idiots.
think of the children! :eek: :mp5:

:rolleyes:

Think of what he's going to do with that razor blade! :eek:

I don't understand why people are "offended" at their kids learning about their bodies.

Well, it's usually the same crowd who gets offended by teaching kids how "we" got to have our current general body shape in the first place already, so..

If I'd known more about the functioning of genitalia as a small child, it would have avoided me asking my mother, in front of guests, why a certain part of my anatomy had suddenly gone hard.

Anyway, yes, I've never understood why people think it's "wrong" to let children know that there's such a thing as a penis.

Penises are part of the Gay Agenda. Clearly the teacher is trying to assimilate her students into the Gay Collective. *nod*

"We are the gay collective. Resistance is futile. Please drop your pants and prepare to be boarded."

Okay, I just adapted it. The original line is "We are the Anglo-Saxon Collective. Your cultural and (something) differences are irrelevant. Please drop your pants and prepare to be boarded."

think of the children! :eek: :mp5:

:rolleyes:

*Hacks off external genetalia*

I don't understand why people are "offended" at their kids learning about their bodies.Oh please, as if at age 11 kids don't already know about their bodies :rolleyes:

If I'd known more about the functioning of genitalia as a small child, it would have avoided me asking my mother, in front of guests, why a certain part of my anatomy had suddenly gone hard.

Anyway, yes, I've never understood why people think it's "wrong" to let children know that there's such a thing as a penis.

"It's because of that skirt Ms. Doe is wearing. Scandalous!"

Well, it's usually the same crowd who gets offended by teaching kids how "we" got to have our current general body shape in the first place already, so..Perhaps those folks really are not the same "we" as we are...

"It's because of that skirt Ms. Doe is wearing. Scandalous!"

Might have been. I can't remember. I was pure and innocent back then. :D

Might have been. I can't remember. I was pure and innocent back then. :D
I thought you were from France ;) None of the Frenchfolks I know could be considered innocent or pure... :D

Oh please, as if at age 11 kids don't already know about their bodies :rolleyes:

My kids won't. I intend to wrap them in a duct tape cocoon until their eighteen, after which they will emerge as beautiful butterflies.

*Eye twitch*

My kids won't. I intend to wrap them in a duct tape cocoon until their eighteen, after which they will emerge as beautiful butterflies.

*Eye twitch*

Excellent parenting.

I thought you were from France ;) None of the Frenchfolks I know could be considered innocent or pure... :D

Ah, that's once we hit puberty. ;)

We do get sex-ed here, by the way, with drawings and all, around the age of 13. And tests on it. The biology teacher who was doing that course was young and very pretty, which seemed rather appropriate. ;)

Oh please, as if at age 11 kids don't already know about their bodies :rolleyes:

I didn't know about mine at that age, and I really still don't.

My kids won't. I intend to wrap them in a duct tape cocoon until their eighteen, after which they will emerge as beautiful butterflies.

*Eye twitch*How? Are their parents butterflies?

I for one wouldn't be too eager to be called to the board and draw a penis...

I for one wouldn't be too eager to be called to the board and draw a penis...

Not even a badly drawn spunking one?

Ah, that's once we hit puberty. ;)

We do get sex-ed here, by the way, with drawings and all, around the age of 13. And tests on it. The biology teacher who was doing that course was young and very pretty, which seemed rather appropriate. ;)
That should be a requirement of teaching any kind of sex ed class.
I didn't know about mine at that age, and I really still don't.

Well, no offense Chandy, but you're kind of an exception.

Not even a badly drawn spunking one?

I'd add little pubic hair to mine. Maybe add some of it's friends, such as Ms. Lube, Amon Condom, Mr. Whip, and Bob Hewitt.

A rare moment captured on video: A gay assimilation in progress! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-_y1rEaK7g) :D

The horror... (Japan is so peverted)

I wonder what they would have said if the kids had drawn the plastic penis their mom always uses... :D the 12-incher...

I'd add little pubic hair to mine. Maybe add some of it's friends, such as Ms. Lube, Amon Condom, Mr. Whip, and Bob Hewitt.

Or maybe Mrs Palm and her five lovely daughters.

I'm sorry.

Or maybe Mrs Palm and her five lovely daughters.

I'm sorry.

Must...destroy...

Well, no offense Chandy, but you're kind of an exception.

I know. I learned about it in health class, but I think I just learned it for the tests and didn't associate the information with myself much at all.

Not even a badly drawn spunking one?

Not before a class of peers and a teacher, no thank you.

For once, I'd like to see a bunch of parents stand up and demand that their children are taught MORE about sex, sexuality and life in general in school, rather than require their precious little babies to be coddled and hidden away from such 'harsh realities'.

I can see the placards now:

"More gay sex in sex-ed!"
"Why doesn't my child know about transgendered people?"
"We demand that all children learn that abstinence is only ONE choice!"

Not before a class of peers and a teacher, no thank you.

Yes, it's much better to draw this on the internet for a audience consisting of...everyone on the planet earth.

Not before a class of peers and a teacher, no thank you.

Aw...

Yes, it's much better to draw this on the internet for a audience consisting of...everyone on the planet earth.

I don't like to draw penises, but I can imagine some people like to doodle it. Before an audience, however, the pressure to perform could be too... intense. ;)

I don't like to draw penises, but I can imagine some people like to doodle it. Before an audience, however, the pressure to perform could be too... intense. ;)

I swear I have never drawn stick figure porn of any kind. Especially not tentacles. Nope.

Although I don't believe shaming, demoting and threatening this man with the loss of his livelihood was the best response, I have to agree with the school's spokeswoman that the teachers actions were not entirely appropriate.

First of all, whether you like it or not, in America there is a social stigma attached to open discussion of human sexuality. On top of that, middle school and puberty are, for most of us, awkward and confusing events; which is precisely why we have lessons on human anatomy and sexuality in the first place.

Consider this:

It's your first day of sex ed class. You're a bit nervous already, since you have been hearing rumors and misinformation about sex your entire life. You're sitting among a group of people you desperately want to be accepted by, and maybe even a girl you have a crush on. Some teacher you don't know and don't trust breaks the ice by having you come to the front of the class, center stage, under the glare of the spot light. Then he asks you to draw a picture of a penis on the chalkboard. The whole class erupts with laughter, and you notice that the girl you like is blushing. With chalk in hand, you search for inspiration. Should you draw a depiction of the Platonic, true form of a penis? No, you don't even know who Play Dough is. Maybe one of the thousand penises you have seen in all that free internet porn you enjoy so much? No, your parents have Net Nanny Fascist Edition. There is only one thing left. Your own penis. It's like that dream you had about being naked in front of the class, but worse, since you can't draw.

Nightmare scenario aside, what does the teacher hope to accomplish with this lesson? There is a giant difference between learning how to find the clitoris using a photocopy from Grey's Anatomy and asking students to display their ignorance in front of their peers. There is educational value in elucidating previously taboo subjects with images, no matter how "icky" they seem, and overturning misinformation and naiveté with videos. There is no educational value in having your students display their lack of artistic talent and exposing them to the hazards of chalk-dust storms.

Again, although I believe this teacher's lesson plan was ill-advised, I think the proper course of action for the authorities would have been to say, in private, "Bill, seriously, that is the stupidest fucking thing you have ever done, perv." Then they should have called him a "pedo-fag" and thrown mashed potatoes at him. Instead they exposed him to public humiliation (maybe they use the Code of Hammurabi in Yonkers) and are threatening him with unemployment. That makes them douche-bags, but well, he is a pedo-fag. So I guess the only winner here is Jerilynne Fierstein because she has the most unpronounceable name ever.

Judgment for the plaintiff, Focker out.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/anatomy_lesson

"YONKERS, N.Y. (AP) - A teacher has been barred from classes for having his seventh-grade pupils draw male genitalia on the blackboard during health class, school officials say.

Pierorazio said the teacher opened a lesson on human anatomy and sexuality by asking students in a class of boys and girls to volunteer to come to the board to draw male anatomy.

Fierstein said the state's seventh-grade curriculum calls for the anatomy lessons but "as a teacher you have to be sensitive and you have to look at the age appropriateness of any activity that you ask a child to do. And this was just not appropriate." "

So, when we had to colour pictures of genitalia, that was harmful to us? Our teacher should have been fired?

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?


Back in elementary school, I worked naked or partially-naked male and female figures into my drawings - and after a chat with my teachers, I didn't get into trouble because I wasn't being crude or trying to get a laugh out of it. Not like the kid who turned any pair of letter "o"s into pairs of boobies in his text-books.

"Why doesn't my child know about transgendered people?"

Genderqueer, if you please.

Genderqueer, if you please.

I don't please.

Not until my brother starts referring to himself that way :p

Then again, it'd fit more neatly on a placard...

That's complete bullshit. I remember that we had hand-outs in natural science class in 4th grade with drawn naked people on'em and nobody freaked out.

I really don't see what the big deal is!

If I'd known more about the functioning of genitalia as a small child, it would have avoided me asking my mother, in front of guests, why a certain part of my anatomy had suddenly gone hard.


That's hysterical. But oh, your poor mother... :)

I know...we had to watch a woman giving birth, full frontal view, in grade 8. Ewww. Scared us into not getting pregnant though:) Still no athetic sex scenes, het or not. Wow. Sweden rocks.

This must seem doubly weird to people coming from countries that don't have excessive fear of sex and sexuality.

I'd like to move to Sweden, Fass. Put me up in your closet for a bit?

I had the full frontal birth video in 8th grade as well, in America. Also had very in depth talk about sex, styles of sex, how to have good sex, including good gay sex, all in ninth grade health. Don't judge the whole country on some dumb schools.

I had the full frontal birth video in 8th grade as well, in America. Also had very in depth talk about sex, styles of sex, how to have good sex, including good gay sex, all in ninth grade health. Don't judge the whole country on some dumb schools.

What is 'good gay sex', exactly? Wouldn't it vary?

in the 9th grade after we all had a laugh fest from trying to put condoms on bananas and cucumbers, our teacher brought in a dildo for us to pass around and put condoms on. I refused.......I didn't know where it had been. :eek: She claims it was new, but I didn't trust her.

in the 9th grade after we all had a laugh fest from trying to put condoms on bananas and cucumbers, our teacher brought in a dildo for us to pass around and put condoms on. I refused.......I didn't know where it had been. :eek: She claims it was new, but I didn't trust her.

Ewwww...I don't think I would have either.

Ewww.

in the 9th grade after we all had a laugh fest from trying to put condoms on bananas and cucumbers, our teacher brought in a dildo for us to pass around and put condoms on. I refused.......I didn't know where it had been. :eek: She claims it was new, but I didn't trust her.

*shudder*

Ewwww...I don't think I would have either.

Ewww.

she got transfered to another class. we ended up with an 80 year old sex ed teacher after that who said such bizarre things as

"if he can't.....you know.....that......uh......"

and

"don't put the condom on if he has.....uh...semi-flacid.....well, I don't like this book"

and

"Smunkee, quit laughing God didn't make sex for your amusement"

she got transfered to another class. we ended up with an 80 year old sex ed teacher after that who said such bizarre things as

"if he can't.....you know.....that......uh......"

and

"don't put the condom on if he has.....uh...semi-flacid.....well, I don't like this book"

and

"Smunkee, quit laughing God didn't make sex for your amusement"

I think I would've rather had the dildo master.

I think I would've rather had the dildo master.

I am not the one who told on her. She sent me to the principals office for "being obstinate" they asked why, and I wasn't going to lie.

I am not the one who told on her. She sent me to the principals office for "being obstinate" they asked why, and I wasn't going to lie.

I looked that up, I recognized it, but kinda didn't remember. That's hilarious.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/anatomy_lesson

"YONKERS, N.Y. (AP) - A teacher has been barred from classes for having his seventh-grade pupils draw male genitalia on the blackboard during health class, school officials say.

Pierorazio said the teacher opened a lesson on human anatomy and sexuality by asking students in a class of boys and girls to volunteer to come to the board to draw male anatomy.

Fierstein said the state's seventh-grade curriculum calls for the anatomy lessons but "as a teacher you have to be sensitive and you have to look at the age appropriateness of any activity that you ask a child to do. And this was just not appropriate." "

So, when we had to colour pictures of genitalia, that was harmful to us? Our teacher should have been fired?

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

Back in the day (7th grade) my health teacher supposedly drew 2 bones lacking cartilage inbetween. Looked like this:
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in the 9th grade after we all had a laugh fest from trying to put condoms on bananas and cucumbers, our teacher brought in a dildo for us to pass around and put condoms on. I refused.......I didn't know where it had been. :eek: She claims it was new, but I didn't trust her.

we had a thing that look like a banana on the outside but put one end :eek: for those who did not see it caming which was all of them but me, boy i laugh so hard i fell out of my seat

This whole thing is pretty ridiculous. In health class you are going to see pictures of genitalia but for some reason you can't draw the same? Weird. Seems the usual overreaction of adults who panic that children may learn things they "can't handle". :rolleyes:

This whole thing is pretty ridiculous. In health class you are going to see pictures of genitalia but for some reason you can't draw the same? Weird. Seems the usual overreaction of adults who panic that children may learn things they "can't handle". :rolleyes:

Ironically, teenagers can handle damn near anything that isn't there own problem. C'mon, most of these people probably drew dicks in 2nd grade for laughs.

Just a week ago, neighborhood kids drew a huge cartoon of a penis on the street, complete with a scrotum and stubbles of pubic hair. (Heck, the penis drawn was circumcised). But still people happily barbecued, walked, drove, and played beside that big tribute to the instrument of population growth. Inappropriate for kids? Maybe, but you certainly can't avoid looking on it. [I can't suppress a chuckle every time I pass by it on the way to school... *spank* Oh, I'm a bad, bad boy!]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/anatomy_lesson

"YONKERS, N.Y. (AP) - A teacher has been barred from classes for having his seventh-grade pupils draw male genitalia on the blackboard during health class, school officials say.

Pierorazio said the teacher opened a lesson on human anatomy and sexuality by asking students in a class of boys and girls to volunteer to come to the board to draw male anatomy.

Fierstein said the state's seventh-grade curriculum calls for the anatomy lessons but "as a teacher you have to be sensitive and you have to look at the age appropriateness of any activity that you ask a child to do. And this was just not appropriate." "

So, when we had to colour pictures of genitalia, that was harmful to us? Our teacher should have been fired?

Why are some people so afraid of reproductive organs?

Hmm.... my second-grade class last year labelled a diagram of both the male and female genitalia on the board. I can't see why getting kids five years older than them to draw their own diagram is so bad.

Ironically, teenagers can handle damn near anything that isn't there own problem. C'mon, most of these people probably drew dicks in 2nd grade for laughs.

Well one can hardly expect rationality from some people. That would be asking for too much. I bet the class was snickering the entire time the teacher was talking. We are talking about 7th graders here, it is not as if they are going to be experiencing mental trauma or any such foolishness. Bet they could care less. Clearly the whiners here have nothing better to do with their time then to complain about nothing. That or they think their kid needs to be wrapped in cotton, which is hardly any better.

Oh dear god, don't even get me started about these pussy-ass "politically correct" full of shit whiners... :upyours:

Oh dear god, don't even get me started about these pussy-ass "politically correct" full of shit whiners... :upyours:

An upyours smilie in your first post, eh? Well, I suppose it is a tad better then a gun smilie...

Still, I can hardly fault your sentiment. These individuals need to find themselves another soapbox.

An upyours smilie in your first post, eh? Well, I suppose it is a tad better then a gun smilie...

Still, I can hardly fault your sentiment. These individuals need to find themselves another soapbox.

He is so exempt because he came out against PC.

i'm sure the seventh grade kids were quite happy drawing penises in their own time. maybe in fact this lesson would have stopped them drawing penis graffiti, in the same way that english lessons put you off shakespear.

Maybe they got erased.

I love you... you have just made my day.

First of all, whether you like it or not, in America there is a stigma attached to open discussion of human sexuality. On top of that, middle school and puberty are, for most of us, awkward and confusing events; which is precisely why we have lessons on human anatomy and sexuality in the first place.
Then why do they have a course like that in the first place?

Consider this:

It's your first day of sex ed class. You're a bit nervous already, since you have been hearing rumors and misinformation about sex your entire life. You're sitting among a group of people you desperately want to be accepted by, and maybe even a girl you have a crush on. Some teacher you don't know and don't trust breaks the ice by having you come to the front of the class, center stage, under the glare of the spot light. Then he asks you to draw a picture of a penis on the chalkboard. The whole class erupts with laughter, and you notice that the girl you like is blushing. With chalk in hand, you search for inspiration. Should you draw a depiction of the Platonic, true form of a penis? No, you don't even know who Play Dough is. Maybe one of the thousand penises you have seen in all that free internet porn you enjoy so much? No, your parents have Net Nanny Fascist Edition. There is only one thing left. Your own penis. It's like that dream you had about being naked in front of the class, but worse, since you can't draw.

Nightmare scenario aside, what does the teacher hope to accomplish with this lesson? There is a giant difference between learning how to find the clitoris using a photocopy from Grey's Anatomy and asking students to display their ignorance in front of their peers. There is educational value in elucidating previously taboo subjects with images, no matter how "icky" they seem, and overturning misinformation and naiveté with videos. There is no educational value in having your students display their lack of artistic talent and exposing them to the hazards of chalk-dust storms.

It said he opened a lesson, not the course. I assume that they had in fact learned about previously and were just checking to see what they remember. And the article says he asked for volunteers. Not inappropriet in the least.

You people are surprised about this?

How many of you have forgotten that this country was founded by PURITANS.

That totally repressed attitude about sex has only STARTED to unravel since the beginning of that last century.
We're talking about a country where interracial marriages were ILLEGAL in many states, and homosexuality wasnt even mentioned in "polite company", up until a couple of decades ago.

There are still "Sodomy Laws" in many states, that bascially make any sexual position (including oral) sex, illegal.
Mind you, these laws are rarely enforced, but they still exist.

This is the same country wherein a certain now jobless dickhead wanted to cover Blind Justice , becuase it contained a naked, dirty titty!

Found a country based on puritanical religious beliefs and strict "sex is dirty, and not to be enjoyed" mentalities, and 200 years later you have parent howling about how Little Johnny had to draw a "dirty, dirty, dick" in class!

First of all, whether you like it or not, in America there is a social stigma attached to open discussion of human sexuality.So maybe it would be better that there was no sex ed at all, because it's a shame that such Americans reproduce at all.

On top of that, middle school and puberty are, for most of us, awkward and confusing events; which is precisely why we have lessons on human anatomy and sexuality in the first place. What the fuck are you talking about? What awkward and confusing events?

How many of you have forgotten that this country was founded by PURITANS.I never forget that the scum that wasn't wanted in Europe is the foundation of US society, which obviously has not grown up since.

I really disagree with the teacher possibly getting fired over this. I don't quite understand why the teacher wanted volunteers to draw on the blackboard when the books have colored photos already. Anyways, the schools are constantly tippy toeing around for their fear of offending others. I feel sad of how the penis and other sexual organs are being demonized and trying to force the fear of such into the minds of the youth. It's supposed to be a natural course and without it there would be no life.

I really disagree with the teacher possibly getting fired over this. I don't quite understand why the teacher wanted volunteers to draw on the blackboard when the books have colored photos already. Anyways, the schools are constantly tippy toeing around for their fear of offending others. I feel sad of how the penis and other sexual organs are being demonized and trying to force the fear of such into the minds of the youth. It's supposed to be a natural course and without it there would be no life.

Perhaps it is some form of dystopian population control that's gone very badly awry?

I have to wonder if he had asked the students to draw a vulva, and how people would have reacted to THAT. Would it have been a greater or lesser reaction?

I have to wonder if he had asked the students to draw a vulva, and how people would have reacted to THAT. Would it have been a greater or lesser reaction?

Greater. Much greater.

Greater. Much greater.

How about both? With the penis in the vulva.

Idiots. When is this going to stop? Sex is just a biological act, like eating or sleeping, and doing are best not to talk about it, and then just skirt over it when we do, is going to end up doing tons of harm.

There are still "Sodomy Laws" in many states, that bascially make any sexual position (including oral) sex, illegal.
Mind you, these laws are rarely enforced, but they still exist.


Just a point of clarification, the US Supreme Court invalidated all sodomy laws in 2003.