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In need of computer help (Mac Users/serious nerds)

Siap
27-01-2007, 02:50
I'm taking a computer science class that involves using linux computers. I am the proud owner of an Apple OS X (10.4.7). We will be doing several large scale programming projects in the future, and the linux lab keeps irregular hours, and it is quite out of my way. I found out how to remotely access the lab using the application 'terminal', but its in command line interface. There is an application recommended by the professor called "X 11" which will allow me to use the graphical functions I need. It is supposedly on my installation discs, but they have since vanished. I have tried to find X11 on the interblag, but I have only come up with open source programs, most of which have an instruction manual on how to build them. I don't posses the technical proficiency to use these. Does anyone know how to get X 11 without the discs?
Kyronea
27-01-2007, 03:37
I'm taking a computer science class that involves using linux computers. I am the proud owner of an Apple OS X (10.4.7). We will be doing several large scale programming projects in the future, and the linux lab keeps irregular hours, and it is quite out of my way. I found out how to remotely access the lab using the application 'terminal', but its in command line interface. There is an application recommended by the professor called "X 11" which will allow me to use the graphical functions I need. It is supposedly on my installation discs, but they have since vanished. I have tried to find X11 on the interblag, but I have only come up with open source programs, most of which have an instruction manual on how to build them. I don't posses the technical proficiency to use these. Does anyone know how to get X 11 without the discs?
Now, I don't know much about Linux, but can't you just set up a Linux emulating program and remote connect to the computers in the computer lab that way? Or is that what this X 11 is? I'd help you on that line but I've never heard of it. ('Course, that might be thanks to being a Windows user. I like my games.)
Siap
27-01-2007, 04:16
X 11 allows me to remote connect. And I honestly don't know much about computers. (its a 101 course required for engineers)
Rejistania
27-01-2007, 05:35
There is an application recommended by the professor called "X 11" which will allow me to use the graphical functions I need. It is supposedly on my installation discs, but they have since vanished. I have tried to find X11 on the interblag, but I have only come up with open source programs, most of which have an instruction manual on how to build them.

Get a decent OS? I mean, having to compile X11 yourself? WTH? Get a CD for your architecture from www.Kubuntu.organd use it as live-CD, ie without installing it. Kubuntu of course uses X11.
Lydiardia
27-01-2007, 05:41
Get a decent OS? I mean, having to compile X11 yourself? WTH? Get a CD for your architecture from www.Kubuntu.organd use it as live-CD, ie without installing it. Kubuntu of course uses X11.

Do you know *how* to connect to the lab? What hostname, etc?

Download Putty (which is a terminal program) and ssh into your linux lab like that.. (I manage servers all over the world this way)..
Posi
27-01-2007, 08:31
I'm taking a computer science class that involves using linux computers. I am the proud owner of an Apple OS X (10.4.7). We will be doing several large scale programming projects in the future, and the linux lab keeps irregular hours, and it is quite out of my way. I found out how to remotely access the lab using the application 'terminal', but its in command line interface. There is an application recommended by the professor called "X 11" which will allow me to use the graphical functions I need. It is supposedly on my installation discs, but they have since vanished. I have tried to find X11 on the interblag, but I have only come up with open source programs, most of which have an instruction manual on how to build them. I don't posses the technical proficiency to use these. Does anyone know how to get X 11 without the discs?
X11 is the Unix graphical system. It has been designed to extremely well over the internet. Because of the large amount of code that came from BSD and to a lesser extend Mach, OS X can run X11, and then any X11 app on top of that layer.
Here is a link for it:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/x11formacosx.html
Then you can download probably find Gnome-Terminal or Konsole compiled for the Mac and run that.
Posi
27-01-2007, 08:32
X 11 allows me to remote connect. And I honestly don't know much about computers. (its a 101 course required for engineers)

Dude, we are doing generic programming with Java on Windows. I'd piss myself if we got to do it on Linux, regardless of the distro.
Bitchkitten
27-01-2007, 09:02
And why aren't these computer nerds helping me on my thread? Get with it, boys. (and girls)
The Alma Mater
27-01-2007, 09:58
Does anyone know how to get X 11 without the discs?

You use MacOS X, so you most likely already have X 11; which is merely what turns a linux console in something capable of having a graphical interface. If not, a download link was posted.

To use it, remote login to your linux workstation with terminal and tell that workstation to send all display information to your apple with the command "setenv DISPLAY your.computers.name:0", where your.computers.name is the name your pc is known on the net (IP works).

All programs will be run on the linux workstation, not on the apple. You will just get to see the graphic output. If you feel ambitious, try typing "startx" - hope you have a fast connection ;)
Rejistania
27-01-2007, 14:26
Dude, we are doing generic programming with Java on Windows. I'd piss myself if we got to do it on Linux, regardless of the distro.
The Penguins are alright! GUI* is GUI and KDE and GNOME use the same metaphors as Windows, so the move is not a big one.

*graphical user interface in contrast to command-line user interfaces.
Posi
28-01-2007, 04:51
The Penguins are alright! GUI* is GUI and KDE and GNOME use the same metaphors as Windows, so the move is not a big one.

*graphical user interface in contrast to command-line user interfaces.
I know. All you really learn is different keywords and junk. But they are just so uncool to use. Starting the things up is like watching your mom have sex as it has to load service after service to keep noobs from fubaring the things.