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Iran has converted one of its most powerful ballistic missile into a satellite launch vehicle. The 30-ton rocket could also be a wolf in sheep's clothing for testing longer-range missile strike technologies, Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine reports in its Jan. 29 issue.

The Iranian space launcher has recently been assembled and "will liftoff soon" with an Iranian satellite, according to Alaoddin Boroujerdi, the chairman of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission.

The move toward an independent space launch capacity is likely to ratchet up concern in the U.S. and Europe about Iran's strategic capabilities and intents. Orbiting its own satellite would send a powerful message throughout the Muslim world about the Shiite regime in Tehran.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/IRAN01257.xml
Sources: YahooNEWS/occeanNEWS©2004 - 2007
my2cents: I think India already has this technology. I wonder who else can.

Can we hire the Chinese to shoot it down?

Well good for them.yes indeed.. I agree.

so.. I am wondering why AviationWeek say we should be concerned..

Well good for them.

Can we hire the Chinese to shoot it down?we r shooting satellites since the 80'

They do it cheaper.

Hmm... the ethics of outsourcing Space Waring... Interesting thread that'd be...

we r shooting satellites since the 80'

They do it cheaper.

They do it cheaper.ahh.. damn

I got pwned. (touché) :D

If they can launch a satellite doesn't that also mean that they can launch an ICBM? Doesn't look good. They're working on "peaceful" nuclear technology and launch technology that can be used to build a nuclear arsenal. Something should be done.

Damn those Iranians, don't they know they need permission before launching something through their own airspace to the free zone of space.

Jack Bauer needs to break into the Iranian Launch base and switch the coordinates on the missile to the location of thier nuclear reactor. Two birds. One stone.

Damn those Iranians, don't they know they need permission before launching something through their own airspace to the free zone of space.

Yes, its the same permission Israel will ask when Irans reactors get hit.

Yes, its the same permission Israel will ask when Irans reactors get hit.

Yes, because launching a satelite through your own airspace is completely the same as flying into someone else's airspace to bomb them.:rolleyes:

Yes, because launching a satelite through your own airspace is completely the same as flying into someone else's airspace to bomb them.:rolleyes:

In my book, Iran is under the equivelent of Probation. They were already caught trying to hide a massive nuclear program. When your under probation, extra restrictions are placed on you that nessesarily limit what you do. These restrictions should include explanations and justifications for things that are legal but suspicious. So despite the fact that Iran could do ANY number of "legal" things, it doesnt mean that it isnt going to provoke reaction among its reasonably suspicious neighbors.

In my book, Iran is under the equivelent of Probation.

Your book is worthless in the real world.

Your book is worthless in the real world.

Apparently not because it seems that the vast majority of Western nations agree with me. Hence the reason the international community demands inspectors and not just a nice letter from the Iranian government assuring us all is just lovely, nothing to see here.

Apparently not because it seems that the vast majority of Western nations agree with me.

Not really. You're just delusional.

Hence the reason the international community demands inspectors and not just a nice letter from the Iranian government assuring us all is just lovely, nothing to see here.

That doesn't mean they are "on probation", all countries are subject to periodic inspections of nuclear facilities to ensure they are following international guidelines. The US wants to conduct additional inspections on Iran, but they're not obligation to accept those, just like the US is not under obligation to accept inspections from China.

Being able to deploy a satellite into orbit is also enough to deploy a rather inefficient, easily intercepted ICBM system, that could reach around the world to the US. I say build the limited missile shield and eliminate even the potential for this sort of threat.

But a purely defensive reaction is appropriate in this case. No need to actually bother with the Iranians.

Not really. You're just delusional.

What sort of delusions cause me to see International nuclear watchdog inspectors i wonder?

In my book, Iran is under the equivelent of Probation.
How boring. Is every other country that hasn't sent America a christmas card on probation too?

They were already caught trying to hide a massive nuclear program.
They haven't been caught trying to hide anything. Ahmenijad has, pretty much every week, been broadcasting to the world that they have a nuclear programme, and won't stop because they've been told not to. The really couldn't make it more obvious that they have a nucelar programme.

When your under probation, extra restrictions are placed on you that nessesarily limit what you do.
So, how do you intend to put restrictions on Iran lauching satellites? Are you going to be the one that destroys lauch sites and rockets in their own territory - and ends up justifying Iranian defense programmes?

These restrictions should include explanations and justifications for things that are legal but suspicious. So despite the fact that Iran could do ANY number of "legal" things, it doesnt mean that it isnt going to provoke reaction among its reasonably suspicious neighbors.
Should America/Britain have to justify all its activities to Iran because of Iraq/Afghanistan?

Being able to deploy a satellite into orbit is also enough to deploy a rather inefficient, easily intercepted ICBM system, that could reach around the world to the US. I say build the limited missile shield and eliminate even the potential for this sort of threat.
You can launch a satellite into space on an IRBM rather an an ICBM, which wouldn't reach America, and what I think the Iranians are playing with now.

The link in the OP describes it as a regional, rather than an intercontinental weapon.

They haven't been caught trying to hide anything. Ahmenijad has, pretty much every week, been broadcasting to the world that they have a nuclear programme, and won't stop because they've been told not to. The really couldn't make it more obvious that they have a nucelar programme.

I see. And the reason for not announcing the Uranium enrichment plant in Natanz and the hard water factory in Arak until a Iranian dissident spilled the beans was?


So, how do you intend to put restrictions on Iran lauching satellites? Are you going to be the one that destroys lauch sites and rockets in their own territory - and ends up justifying Iranian defense programmes?

If nessesary and eventually i believe it will have to come to this unless the unlikely event that Israels strikes are effective enough to set the Iranian nuclear program back far enough.

The bottom line is simply this. Iran = Hezbolla. I dont know your personal feelings on the matter but mine and one i believe is shared by many is that if Hez or one of its various flavors got ahold of fissionable material it would get used in a bomb to sustain a terrorist agenda. The probability of this is great enough that extreme measures that may infringe on Irans soverignty may be nessesary. War is hell.

Uranium enrichment is NOT illegal. Launching Satellites is NOT illegal.

The notion of legal or illegal is irrelevant. It wasnt legal for Israel to destroy Iraqs nuclear facilities. Guess what, needed to be done and it was. Same deal here.

I see. And the reason for not announcing the Uranium enrichment plant in ...Uranium enrichment is NOT illegal. Launching Satellites is NOT illegal.

The notion of legal or illegal is irrelevant. It wasnt legal for Israel to destroy Iraqs nuclear facilities. Guess what, needed to be done and it was. thats what Bush said about Invading Iraq.. "needed to be done and it was."

Iranians work damn fast don’t they in what 7 years (?) they are already on the verge of getting into space, watch out Mars!

The notion of legal or illegal is irrelevant. It wasnt legal for Israel to destroy Iraqs nuclear facilities. Guess what, needed to be done and it was. Same deal here.

http://www.cargal.org/images/gallery/albums/album17/international_law.jpg

Iranians work damn fast don’t they in what 7 years (?) they are already on the verge of getting into space, watch out Mars!
maybe Martians need Oil too?
I think they invented SUVs

Iranians work damn fast don’t they in what 7 years (?) they are already on the verge of getting into space, watch out Mars!



http://www.cargal.org/images/gallery/albums/album17/international_law.jpg

Win. Pure refined weapons grade win.

maybe Martians need Oil too?
I think they invented SUVs

ebil terrorist humans:eek: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6skfbT42lU)

Iran has converted one of its most powerful ballistic missile into a satellite launch vehicle. The 30-ton rocket could also be a wolf in sheep's clothing for testing longer-range missile strike technologies, Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine reports in its Jan. 29 issue.

The Iranian space launcher has recently been assembled and "will liftoff soon" with an Iranian satellite, according to Alaoddin Boroujerdi, the chairman of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission.

The move toward an independent space launch capacity is likely to ratchet up concern in the U.S. and Europe about Iran's strategic capabilities and intents. Orbiting its own satellite would send a powerful message throughout the Muslim world about the Shiite regime in Tehran.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/IRAN01257.xml
Sources: YahooNEWS/occeanNEWS©2004 - 2007
my2cents: I think India already has this technology. I wonder who else can.

This is bullshit. I live in Seattle, and if some Iranian wants to launch me into space, I'll clothesline him so fast he'll think I just established a democracy in his skull.

ebil terrorist humans:eek: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6skfbT42lU)LOL

marine#1: You said we will be greeted as liberators.
marine#2: Dont worry we still got their hearts and minds.

I see. And the reason for not announcing the Uranium enrichment plant in Natanz and the hard water factory in Arak until a Iranian dissident spilled the beans was?

Would have to research to fully know what you're talking about, but I didn't know that Iran was responsible for reporting all their research to the west.

Does the USA not keep secret research bases?


The bottom line is simply this. Iran = Hezbolla. I dont know your personal feelings on the matter but mine and one i believe is shared by many is that if Hez or one of its various flavors got ahold of fissionable material it would get used in a bomb to sustain a terrorist agenda. The probability of this is great enough that extreme measures that may infringe on Irans soverignty may be nessesary. War is hell.

They probably fund Hezbollah. Fair enough. America spent years funding the IRA, not to mention more others than I care to try and count, so should the UK/lots of other countries/etc have bombed America?

What sort of delusions cause me to see International nuclear watchdog inspectors i wonder?

The delusion is to think that this makes Iran be under "probation"

The delusion is to think that this makes Iran be under "probation"

They've been on double secret probation for the past three months.

They've been on double secret probation for the past three months.

Time for triple probation, it seems. That will learn them not to build nukes.

Time for triple probation, it seems. That will learn them not to build nukes.

Triple secret probation. It's the secret that will make them feel really bad, because no one will sit at their table at lunch and they won't know why.

Time for triple probation, it seems. That will learn them not to build nukes.and after that we send them(Iran) to their room .. and ..and no TV for one week. :D