NationStates Jolt Archive


When debating with friends and/or family

Shindrasil
26-01-2007, 06:53
what is the dumbest thing you've ever heard them say?


For me, my uncle claimed the oil renewed itself after 75 years....
Neesika
26-01-2007, 07:00
But...Ralph Klein IS socialist!
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
26-01-2007, 07:02
My friends aren't that dumb and I avoid arguing with my family because they scare me (not overtly Christian, Communist or anything just stupid assholes for the most part) but infront of my in one of my classes some kids where arguing about politics and all of them got the Prime Ministers name wrong. They said Jack Harper instead of Stephan Harper and they couldn't find Britian on a map because it was labeled "UK". Oh, and I've had a kid ask me what laguage we spoke in England. Yup.
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
26-01-2007, 07:03
But...Ralph Klein IS socialist!
What? Who and in what context?
Rhaomi
26-01-2007, 07:03
Oh, Lordy...

Well, my mom is of the opinion that "un-American" activities should be illegal, and that all "hippie protestors" should get out of the country if they hate it so much. :eek:

She also thinks that the moon landings were a hoax. :headbang:
Shotagon
26-01-2007, 07:06
My friends aren't that dumb and I avoid arguing with my family because they scare me (not overtly Christian, Communist or anything just stupid assholes for the most part) but infront of my in one of my classes some kids where arguing about politics and all of them got the Prime Ministers name wrong. They said Jack Harper instead of Stephan Harper and they couldn't find Britian on a map because it was labeled "UK". Oh, and I've had a kid ask me what laguage we spoke in England. Yup.Ouch, those are pretty bad.

Usually my family doesn't say totally stupid things. If they do it can generally be explained by the fact that 80% of them are still too young to know (or care) very much about what they say. I'm sure they've said a few gems sometime though, but I can't remember them right now... :/
Shotagon
26-01-2007, 07:15
Not really a debate, but..

"You're not atheist! Your whole family is catholic!"

Like religion is in the blood, or something..

:rolleyes::D If you're Irish, they may have a point there. :p
IL Ruffino
26-01-2007, 07:16
Not really a debate, but..

"You're not atheist! Your whole family is catholic!"

Like religion is in the blood, or something..

:rolleyes:
Pirated Corsairs
26-01-2007, 07:18
"But if we give the detainees at Guantanamo Bay trials, then we might find some of them 'not guilty!'"-- My father. :headbang:
MrWho
26-01-2007, 07:18
I was telling my dad that quite a few adults play video games and that it isn't just for little kids. His response was "Well I don't play video games".
Greill
26-01-2007, 07:19
My mom: Don't debate with me about healthcare! I know everything about it!
Me: But if you just listen-
My mom: No! Whatever you're going to say will be wrong!
Me: Just let me-
My mom: This argument is over!

(A few hours later)

Me: What do you think of the AMA?
My mom: The what?
Me: The American Medical Association...
My mom: Oh. I don't know anything about it.
Me: But don't you know about healthcare?
My mom: I know about the other stuff.
Me: ...
IL Ruffino
26-01-2007, 07:25
:D If you're Irish, they may have a point there. :p

:p

Irish - Polish
The family goes to a Polish Catholic church, though.

*waits for someone to yell at poor Ruffy for his American-ness and how he is no where near Irish, or Polish*
NERVUN
26-01-2007, 07:35
"We should bomb the shit out of them (Iraq and Afganistan) and force democracy on them like we did with Germany and Japan. Just like then, they'll thank us later!" My uncle during the build up to the current war. It took a lot for me to not laugh in his face.
New Ausha
26-01-2007, 07:39
what is the dumbest thing you've ever heard them say?


For me, my uncle claimed the oil renewed itself after 75 years....

Well, I don't really have friends, but I suppose today in math class, my teacher explained in college, he explained his overly charasmatic professor persuaded him too pursue socialism. Promptly, a few seconds later, the entire class burst out "Wats sozializm??" Oh yes, I laughed...
Daistallia 2104
26-01-2007, 07:39
HS Friend: So you're a communist?
Me: What? :confused:
HSF: Well you're an atheist.
Me: So what?
HSF: Well communists are atheists, so if you're an atheist, you must be a communist.

And the classic claim from from TRA that all companies acted the way the Soprano's do on TV, because his father said so.
Extreme Ironing
26-01-2007, 14:15
Hardly a debate, but my Gran once explained to my brother and I, 'As long as you don't go and marry some foreign girl, that's ok'. She'd probably have a fit if I ever have a boyfriend...
Ifreann
26-01-2007, 14:28
I tend to get a lot of idiotic comments back when I am "debating" random people, who seem to think it's their business to comment on my life.

I don't really remember all the stupid comments so much as my witty responses.

"I don't think that you should homeschool because you are not qualified"
"what do you mean?"
"well, you can't teach things because you probably don't understand them enough"
"you mean that I didn't learn things well enough in public school to be able to explain them, but for the good of my child I should send her to public school not to learn things well enough to explain them?"

they always look like this :confused:

then there was this morning when I was taking my kids to the bank

"I don't agree with homeschooling because you could indoctrinate your kids, I send my kids to public school"
"so you want the government to indoctrinate your kids for you too?"

:p

she got pretty mad.

oh, wait I do remember the stupidest thing, I was talking about homeschooling with someone and they said "you are teaching them too much, what are they supposed to do when they hit 7th grade and they know everything" :eek:

yeah, because someone can really know everything :rolleyes:

Graduate would have been a good response. But it's always easier to think of good come backs after the fact.
Smunkeeville
26-01-2007, 14:30
I tend to get a lot of idiotic comments back when I am "debating" random people, who seem to think it's their business to comment on my life.

I don't really remember all the stupid comments so much as my witty responses.

"I don't think that you should homeschool because you are not qualified"
"what do you mean?"
"well, you can't teach things because you probably don't understand them enough"
"you mean that I didn't learn things well enough in public school to be able to explain them, but for the good of my child I should send her to public school not to learn things well enough to explain them?"

they always look like this :confused:

then there was this morning when I was taking my kids to the bank

"I don't agree with homeschooling because you could indoctrinate your kids, I send my kids to public school"
"so you want the government to indoctrinate your kids for you too?"

:p

she got pretty mad.

oh, wait I do remember the stupidest thing, I was talking about homeschooling with someone and they said "you are teaching them too much, what are they supposed to do when they hit 7th grade and they know everything" :eek:

yeah, because someone can really know everything :rolleyes:
Bodies Without Organs
26-01-2007, 14:37
And the classic claim from from TRA that all companies acted the way the Soprano's do on TV, because his father said so.

...in the midst of a rant about how drug companies were intentionally killing off young Christians, no less.
Dryks Legacy
26-01-2007, 14:38
This is the first thing I could think off. It's not really a debate. More of an argument. But it's still pretty stupid

Mum: You spend too much time on the computer
Me: No I don't
Mum: Get off and go to your room
Me: and do what?
Mum: .... I don't know... play Gamecube or something
Me: That makes no sense!
Mum: Shut up and do it!
Kanabia
26-01-2007, 14:38
My parents voted for John Howard.

You go figure what I think of their politics.
Greater Valia
26-01-2007, 14:40
My family are either vitriolic fascists (Fathers side) or ardent Marxists (Mothers side) so everything they say is stupid.
Bodies Without Organs
26-01-2007, 14:40
my mum once thought that the moon pushed itself away from the earth, and that's how gravity worked.

she's smart, just not very science-y:p

Well, in a way it does push away from Earth, else it wouldn't be in orbit.
Pure Metal
26-01-2007, 14:43
my mum once thought that the moon pushed itself away from the earth, and that's how gravity worked.

she's smart, just not very science-y:p
Damaske
26-01-2007, 14:44
Not really a debate, but..

"You're not atheist! Your whole family is catholic!"

Like religion is in the blood, or something..

:rolleyes:


Oh gawd..flashback! My mother says that to me ALL the time.:headbang:
Ifreann
26-01-2007, 14:44
oh, I said "consult" which caused my kid to spew milk out of her nose and the other person looked (again) like this :confused:

You win on so many levels.




Speaking of physics; timewarp.
Dryks Legacy
26-01-2007, 14:45
my mum once thought that the moon pushed itself away from the earth, and that's how gravity worked.

she's smart, just not very science-y:p

I'm pretty sure I could blow someone's mind by telling them that you pull the earth towards you.
Slartiblartfast
26-01-2007, 14:46
We were discussing hostage taking at work (don't ask why...long story) when someone who had only heard part of the conversation piped up with

"Terry Waite....isn't he the darts player"

*still laughing*
Smunkeeville
26-01-2007, 14:46
Graduate would have been a good response. But it's always easier to think of good come backs after the fact.

oh, I said "consult" which caused my kid to spew milk out of her nose and the other person looked (again) like this :confused:
Pure Metal
26-01-2007, 14:47
Well, in a way it does push away from Earth, else it wouldn't be in orbit.
yes.

/me doesn't want to get into debate about physics
Rambhutan
26-01-2007, 14:50
In a discussion about how far Australia is from Britain

Friend A: It is at least 20,000 miles
Friend B:...it can't be that far, halfway round the earth is only about 12,000 miles.
Friend A: Well what if it is more than halfway round the earth.
Ice Hockey Players
26-01-2007, 16:15
Never really gotten into a debate where someone said something really stupid...though the first time I had any debate with my wife, she thought i was upset with her for disagreeing with me. She didn't seem to understand the idea that I was debating her and that I wanted her to strengthen her argument against me. (She was making the argument that public protests shouldn't be allowed because they turn violent and obstruct traffic; I was of the opinion that the First Amendment had to protect protesters and that public land could be used for protesting.)

Also, before I met my wife, I was going to start dating a girl from college who had been a close friend (and who had a crush on me for a year but never said anything...but that's neither here nor there.) Anywho, it just so happened she's of a different race...she's black; I am white. This fact didn't seem lost on my father, who said to me, "If you date her, that constitutes an interracial relationship." Thank you, Captain Obvious. You might think that your son, who graduated from high school with honors, can do calculus without breaking a sweat, and was finishing a four-year college degree in three years, would understand the idea of an interracial relationship. Did you figure it out by yourself, or did your mommy help you? And then I heard the argument of "I don't have a problem with it, but other people might." Well, gollllllllll-eeeeeeee, why don't I let other assholes tell me who I should date based on something as arbitrary as skin color? And it sounds awfully hypocritical - do as I say but don't blame me for it.

So nothing colossally stupid as far as debates go. Just other things that don't make sense.
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 16:20
My father's a complete bigot -- probably should have a white hood. The depths to which his stupid comments have reached know no bounds.
Bottle
26-01-2007, 16:23
A friend of mine once said, "I don't think there's actually any examples of Bill O'Reilly lying."

I lawled.
Terror Incognitia
26-01-2007, 16:31
Real quote from a student at Oxford University:
"So what language do they speak in Japan, Mandarin?"
Not part of an argument, but classic nonetheless.
Luporum
26-01-2007, 16:44
Me: "Didn't you read Plato's Republic?"
Girlfriend: "How does silly puddy run a country?"
*slaps self in forehead*
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 16:48
Real quote from a student at Oxford University:
"So what language do they speak in Japan, Mandarin?"
Not part of an argument, but classic nonetheless.

Along similar lines, a girl to my best friend: "You're Hispanic. Do you speak Cuban?"
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 16:49
Me: "Didn't you read Plato's Republic?"
Girlfriend: "How does silly puddy run a country?"
*slaps self in forehead*

I hope you dumped her on the spot. Unless she gave really good head. :p

Actually, even then... :rolleyes:
Luporum
26-01-2007, 16:50
I hope you dumped her on the spot. Unless she gave really good head. :p

Actually, even then... :rolleyes:

I broke up with her about 20 minutes later ;)
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 16:51
I broke up with her about 20 minutes later ;)

In other words, after she gave you head one last time? *snicker*
Rameria
26-01-2007, 16:51
Along similar lines, a girl to my best friend: "You're Hispanic. Do you speak Cuban?"
In a similar vein, you wouldn't believe how many times people have said to me, "So you lived in Belgium... do you speak Belgianese?"

My favourite stupid thing anyone has said to me, although not part of a debate, was "Are you part brown?"
Luporum
26-01-2007, 16:53
In other words, after she gave you head one last time? *snicker*

Make best use of what you can get I always say.

Although I do miss her because no one else on the planet made me feel smarter. *depressed sigh*
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 16:54
In a similar vein, you wouldn't believe how many times people have said to me, "So you lived in Belgium... do you speak Belgianese?"

My favourite stupid thing anyone has said to me, although not part of a debate, was "Are you part brown?"

Belgianese! That's classic! http://209.85.48.8/9854/48/emo/roflma.gif

Your ancestry is Asian, though, right? http://209.85.48.8/html/emoticons/unsure.gif
Neesika
26-01-2007, 16:54
What? Who and in what context?

My parents, at the very beginning of King Ralph's reign. We were discussing politics, and I was trying to understand how they could support the Conservatives, so we kind of went through their general beliefs on things like labour rights, education, health care and so on. I said they sounded (as I'd always known) that they were leaning more towards socialism than what Ralph was selling...and that was the response.

To be fair, prairie populism clothes itself in the guise of socialism, even as it undermines it. Don't worry, they don't vote PC anymore.
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 16:55
Make best use of what you can get I always say.

Although I do miss her because no one else on the planet made me feel smarter. *depressed sigh*

NSG never fails to make me feel smart. ;)
Rambhutan
26-01-2007, 16:59
Overheard this in the office recently
"We didn't have any heating in the flat, and when I said I was cold, my sister said "why don't you put the microwave on for a while"".
Rameria
26-01-2007, 17:00
Belgianese! That's classic! http://209.85.48.8/9854/48/emo/roflma.gif
Indeed. It's pretty amusing most of the time, but it can be rather disturbing when those words come out of the mouth of an otherwise intelligent person. ;)

Your ancestry is Asian, though, right? http://209.85.48.8/html/emoticons/unsure.gif
Yep. My mom's side of the family is Filipino.
Isidoor
26-01-2007, 17:03
In a similar vein, you wouldn't believe how many times people have said to me, "So you lived in Belgium... do you speak Belgianese?"

there are Belgian people who say that too. (Belgisch ipv Nederlands)
Khadgar
26-01-2007, 17:05
Back in 99 a friend of mine told me the reason Y2K would be a problem is because all computers would think it was 1900 and adjust their processing speed accordingly.



My head nearly exploded.
Khazistan
26-01-2007, 17:06
In a conversation at work someone was talking about their visit to America and how some people over there were rather racist and then another co worker said "well they're all like that over there arent they".

Its at times like that when I actually understand why people get annoyed about anti americanism, but then I remember you're all a bunch of big fat racists, so its all good.
Dempublicents1
26-01-2007, 17:08
My friends and family are pretty intelligent, but some of them definitely can be misled. The main thing I can think of now is when I was explaining the embryonic stem cell debate to my aunt, and telling her why Bush and many Republicans are opposed.

Her response was, "That can't be it. There must be something else. My president isn't stupid."
Politeia utopia
26-01-2007, 17:25
I study Arabic language and culture, this sometimes leads people to show to blatant predudice.

It induced an aunt of mine to state that my study would allow me to understand Arabic immigrants on the streets when they are plotting attacks. My younger brother overhearing the conversation was unable stop laughing to her face… Poor misguided aunt… :)
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 17:36
Indeed. It's pretty amusing most of the time, but it can be rather disturbing when those words come out of the mouth of an otherwise intelligent person. ;)

See my post about speaking Cuban above. ;)

Yep. My mom's side of the family is Filipino.

Thought so, but didn't want to presume anything.

You brownie. :p

Whatever the hell that means.
;)
Infinite Revolution
26-01-2007, 17:41
"we shouldn't care about sweatshop workers, cuz it was their choice to become sweatshop workers in the first place and there is no impediment to them leaving whenever they want", or words to that effect, were said by my dad. later parrotted by my sister.
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 17:45
Okay, I've got one from my father that trumps anything I've seen here so far:

"Italians are just niggers turned inside out."

Yeah, that guy's a fuckin' gem. :rolleyes:
Dempublicents1
26-01-2007, 17:50
Indeed. It's pretty amusing most of the time, but it can be rather disturbing when those words come out of the mouth of an otherwise intelligent person. ;)

To be fair, I've said something really dumb like that. Believe me, I know that the common language in Mexico is Spanish. But hey, I was pretty tipsy, so sue me, right? I was at a Mexican restaurant looking at the various bottles of booze they had in a cabinet. One of them was really pretty, but I didn't recognize the name, so I read the name and asked the guy at the counter, "What does this mean in Mexican?" He gave me a really confused look, but I didn't catch it, and repeated the question again before I figured out my problem. It was the source of much ribbing from my friends later.
Rameria
26-01-2007, 17:54
My friends and family are pretty intelligent, but some of them definitely can be misled. The main thing I can think of now is when I was explaining the embryonic stem cell debate to my aunt, and telling her why Bush and many Republicans are opposed.

Her response was, "That can't be it. There must be something else. My president isn't stupid."
Wow. I'm speechless.

See my post about speaking Cuban above. ;)



Thought so, but didn't want to presume anything.

You brownie. :p

Whatever the hell that means.
;)
People are silly sometimes. Like this conversation I happened to be present for:

Person: Do you go to Mexico very often?
My friend: :confused: I've never been to Mexico, why would you think I had?
Person: I assumed you had family there or something.
My friend: I'm Spanish.
Person: Yeah, I know. So don't you have family in Mexico?

Okay, I've got one from my father that trumps anything I've seen here so far:

"Italians are just niggers turned inside out."

Yeah, that guy's a fuckin' gem. :rolleyes:
Bwha? How'd he come up with that?
Cluichstan
26-01-2007, 18:04
Bwha? How'd he come up with that?

He's an ignorant asshole. That's how. *sigh*
Haken Rider
26-01-2007, 23:54
there are Belgian people who say that too. (Belgisch ipv Nederlands)
No, not really.


My mom ones believed that Alaska was next to Hawai (because there was no room for their real spots on the US map).
Vittos the City Sacker
26-01-2007, 23:59
I have a cousin who believes that Jews are a drain on the economy.

He operates from a combination of stereotypes, economic ignorance, and thickheadedness.