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How do you feel about taxes?

Ginnoria
26-01-2007, 03:03
No, not Texas.

Taxes.

Do you feel you should be taxed?


I, for one, am anti-taxes.

Don't mess with Taxes.

All your OP are belong to ME!!! AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!! :)
IL Ruffino
26-01-2007, 03:07
No, not Texas.

Taxes.

Do you feel you should be taxed?


I, for one, am anti-taxes.
Ginnoria
26-01-2007, 03:07
God damnit. :(

Cheer up. Have a fluffle? :fluffle:
East Lithuania
26-01-2007, 03:07
anti-taxes? how does the government get their money than? it almost all comes from tax. Are you saying against a certain tax?
IL Ruffino
26-01-2007, 03:11
Don't mess this Taxes.

All your OP are belong to ME!!! AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!! :)

God damnit. :(
Gravlen
26-01-2007, 03:15
Do you feel you should be taxed?


I, for one, am anti-taxes.

I feel YOU should be taxed. http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/ad/gy.gif



Seriously though, I feel I'm taxed juuuuuuuust right, and I don't mind paying it http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/ad/toff.gif

http://www.contracts-for-difference.com/pic/tax-contracts-for-difference.jpg
King Bodacious
26-01-2007, 03:18
I am for Taxes. They are necessary to have a democracy with a functioning Government. I wish that the Govenment would have a major Tax Reform that waste less of the tax monies but overall Taxes are necessary.
NERVUN
26-01-2007, 03:20
No, not Texas.

Taxes.

Do you feel you should be taxed?


I, for one, am anti-taxes.
I'm not particuarly fond of taxes; however, I do also like my roads, fire and police services, schools, defence, R&D, parks and recreational areas, and other bits and pieces that my taxes go to.

I take the view point that since I do use them from time to time, I better pay for them.
Damaske
26-01-2007, 03:21
Taxes are good. How else are we going to pay for the things that the government does? As in new roads, funding for education, aide to help those in need...
IL Ruffino
26-01-2007, 03:24
anti-taxes? how does the government get their money than? it almost all comes from tax. Are you saying against a certain tax?

Well I guess I'm not anti-tax, but I really think I gets out of hand. Hell, the US government taxed award show swag..
Posi
26-01-2007, 03:25
I dunno. Taxes are pretty sweet. Maybe I should start charging taxes. I could call myself emperor or something. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcIn8dd_gk)
Katganistan
26-01-2007, 03:26
I'm not crazy about taxes, but they are a necessary evil if one wants roads, schools, public servants, etc.
Nadkor
26-01-2007, 03:27
OK, I swear a thread with the exact same title came up about 6 months ago.

And that time I thought it said Texas, too.
Soviestan
26-01-2007, 03:30
No, not Texas.

Taxes.

Do you feel you should be taxed?


I, for one, am anti-taxes.

we need them to you know, have an infrastructure that allows me to use the internet. Doesn't mean I enjoy paying them though.
Greill
26-01-2007, 03:40
I think everyone should pay their fair share of taxes.






That fair share being 0%.
Jello Biafra
26-01-2007, 03:46
Taxes are fine, but they don't always go to where they should. The idea of being taxed is entirely acceptable, though.
Delator
26-01-2007, 08:10
www.fairtax.org


These threads are easy... :cool:
Greater Trostia
26-01-2007, 08:22
Taxation is basically legalized theft. Yeah, there are good "services," but that's like saying Robin Hood wasn't a thief cuz he did something "good" with the money he stole.

I am uncertain as to how necessary they really are. Certainly, it is in the government's best interest to convince us that they're necessary for everything. Not least of all, our massively overfunded military so we can romp around in the Middle Eastern sandbox killing OMGTERRORISTS and, "accidentally" killing Iraqi civilians.

I think a lot of "services" could be privately funded. But, most people on this forum trust Ebil Corporations even less than I trust governments. But ya know, governments have a history of starting the wars, the mass executions, pursuing stupid laws like the War On Drugs, the purges, the holocausts. Businesses are just people trying to earn a living.
Nationalian
26-01-2007, 08:25
No, not Texas.

Taxes.

Do you feel you should be taxed?


I, for one, am anti-taxes.

I wan't there to be relativelly high taxes so the goverment can pay for infrastructure, health care, social security, environmental protection and law and order. I won't have anything against beeing taxed because I know the money will do good for the society and I will probably have more then enough to manage. As for no taxes at all, HA!, that country will collapse sooner then you can say collapse!

EDIT: I'm for a progressive tax system. The more you earn the higher the tax should be when you earn more money over a certain limit.
Nationalian
26-01-2007, 08:26
Taxation is basically legalized theft. Yeah, there are good "services," but that's like saying Robin Hood wasn't a thief cuz he did something "good" with the money he stole.


Don't mess with Robin Hood! I would vote for him if he ran for office today!
Neo Undelia
26-01-2007, 09:03
I dunno. Taxes are pretty sweet. Maybe I should start charging taxes. I could call myself emperor or something. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcIn8dd_gk)
Thank you.
Congo--Kinshasa
26-01-2007, 09:10
A necessary evil.
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-01-2007, 09:20
Taxes are, as stated so frequently in this post, necessary. But do we need to pay so much to get so little?
Aequilibritas
26-01-2007, 10:03
Taxation is basically legalized theft. Yeah, there are good "services," but that's like saying Robin Hood wasn't a thief cuz he did something "good" with the money he stole.


Didn't Robin Hood take back the money the Sheriff of Nottingham had taken from the poor in taxes?
Greater Trostia
26-01-2007, 10:04
Didn't Robin Hood take back the money the Sheriff of Nottingham had taken from the poor in taxes?

I'm not sure, but he stole from wealthy people, not merely the Sheriff. What did they do that was so criminal, other than having wealth?
Harlesburg
26-01-2007, 10:06
I am for taxes but when i see that Defence barely gets .9% of GDP i ain't a happy kitten.
Damn.
Risottia
26-01-2007, 10:08
Definitely pro-taxes, expecially income taxes. Non income-related taxes (fixed taxes on consumer goods like the VAT, for example) are unjust.

I don't like to pay them, but if you want to live in a human society, you have to give something of your own to get what the society offers, so I pay.
Aequilibritas
26-01-2007, 10:37
I'm not sure, but he stole from wealthy people, not merely the Sheriff. What did they do that was so criminal, other than having wealth?

Oh, I wasn't defending his 'rob the rich' policy, I was just pointing out that he too was anti-tax.
Slartiblartfast
26-01-2007, 10:45
For - fair and equal tax system

Against - my government wasting my taxes (i.e able to fund sending troops to Iraq but unable to fund adequate equipment for them)
Cameroi
26-01-2007, 10:49
i really think it all depends on what's done with them and how much i really get to say about what's done with them.

i really don't think government should cost more then a reasonable overhead above what it spends on infrastructure. i think that's the reason to have governments and the only good reason to do so. infrastructure and 'welfare'.

=^^=
.../\...
NERVUN
26-01-2007, 11:36
Taxes are, as stated so frequently in this post, necessary. But do we need to pay so much to get so little?
So little like roads, schools, bridges, sewers, water and gas lines, parks, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, NASA, R&D, police, fire, wildlife management, and so on and so forth?

What more would you like?
Congo--Kinshasa
26-01-2007, 11:39
So little like roads, schools, bridges, sewers, water and gas lines, parks, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, NASA, R&D, police, fire, wildlife management, and so on and so forth?

What more would you like?

Parks should be privately funded.

NASA is just a total waste.

And what is R&D?
Congo--Kinshasa
26-01-2007, 11:43
Thank you, no. Yosemite is expensive enough and crowded enough as it is.

Oh, you mean national parks. I thought you meant just regular parks.

Research and Development.

Thanks.
Ariddia
26-01-2007, 11:44
Being "anti-tax" is downright stupid. Anarcho-capitalism (which appears to be the ideology of the "anti-tax" gang... at least those who are intelligent enough to have some sort of semi-coherent ideology) is a mere fantasy - and not one I find particularly appealing, either.

I'm perfectly ok with paying taxes. I'm a member of society, I benefit from public services and infrastructures, and I have no desire to leech off the system. Plus, it's a form of solidarity towards those less well off (less healthy, for example) than I am. I'm somewhat annoyed when public money gets wasted, but on the whole taxes are a good and healthy thing. I wouldn't even call them a "necessary evil", because I see no reason to refer to them as "evil".

I get even more annoyed when politicians promise tax cuts without saying what public spending they intend to slash into.
NERVUN
26-01-2007, 11:47
Parks should be privately funded.
Thank you, no. Yosemite is expensive enough and crowded enough as it is.

NASA is just a total waste.
From all the tech we've gotten from it? (Not to mention all the sats that we're using)

And what is R&D?
Research and Development.
Ifreann
26-01-2007, 11:48
I wish I didn't have to pay taxes :(
NERVUN
26-01-2007, 11:54
Oh, you mean national parks. I thought you meant just regular parks.
Parks as a group I guess. Everything from the local kiddy parks (which, often do have sponsors) to state and national ones.

Thanks.
You're welcome.
Greater Trostia
26-01-2007, 11:57
Being "anti-tax" is downright stupid. Anarcho-capitalism (which appears to be the ideology of the "anti-tax" gang... at least those who are intelligent enough to have some sort of semi-coherent ideology) is a mere fantasy - and not one I find particularly appealing, either.


What, exactly, is "intelligent" about clinging to an "ideology?"

Frankly, I don't see your communism as anything but an unappealing fantasy either.

I'm perfectly ok with paying taxes. I'm a member of society, I benefit from public services and infrastructures, and I have no desire to leech off the system. Plus, it's a form of solidarity towards those less well off (less healthy, for example) than I am.

Would you be fine if someone removed your left lung? You know, to transplant it to someone who is less well-off. You're a member of society.
Congo--Kinshasa
26-01-2007, 11:59
I get even more annoyed when politicians promise tax cuts without saying what public spending they intend to slash into.

Or worse - when politicians cut taxes, without cutting spending, or worse: increasing spending while cutting taxes. *cough* Bush *cough*
Ariddia
26-01-2007, 12:34
What, exactly, is "intelligent" about clinging to an "ideology?"

Read what I said. I said that proponents of the anarcho-capitalist ideology are marginally more intelligent than those who simply clammer for abolishing taxes, and have given it no thought beyond that. That doesn't mean I support their ideas in any way. I find them ignorant and irrational.


Frankly, I don't see your communism as anything but an unappealing fantasy either.

Jump to conclusions, why don't you... The intelligent thing for you to do would have been to ask me what my views are, instead of deciding for yourself what I think.


Would you be fine if someone removed your left lung? You know, to transplant it to someone who is less well-off. You're a member of society.

The sheer idiocy of that statement suggests you have no leg to stand on in this argument.


Or worse - when politicians cut taxes, without cutting spending, or worse: increasing spending while cutting taxes. *cough* Bush *cough*

*shudders*
Katganistan
26-01-2007, 13:16
Well I guess I'm not anti-tax, but I really think I gets out of hand. Hell, the US government taxed award show swag..

It's called, "Income." And it's been taxed as such as long as I can remember (which is long!)

Lottery winnings are taxed too, as are gambling wins. Most people get away with not reporting small wins but if you make a killing, it will reported and you'll be visited by the IRS fairy. ;)
Waterback
26-01-2007, 13:59
Living in Iceland, I pay pretty heavy taxes. But I don't mind, since it pays for my education, I don't have to worry about health care or ending up homeless, and crime is virtually non-existant.
Rambhutan
26-01-2007, 14:03
Erm warm and fuzzy?
Neu Leonstein
26-01-2007, 14:03
I know that there is no realistic way of getting around paying taxes (collecting taxes being afterall the primary function of government), but I will still pay as little as possible at all times.

I am intelligent enough to look at a government budget (http://www.budget.gov.au/2006-07/overview/html/overview_30.htm) and know that most of the money does not in fact go to things I regularly use, or things that private enterprise or a user-pays system couldn't provide.

The one exception is my university, which receives money (though that's state money moreso than federal money, IIRC). But as I said, since of a hundred bucks taken by the tax man barely 10 dollars actually goes to that, I can't say I'm particularly happy with this service provider. If I could choose, I would long have switched to a different one.