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Grey’s Anatomy star Isaiah Washington has entered a residential treatment facility in an effort to quell the controversy surrounding his anti-gay remarks — and save his job, Life & Style has learned exclusively.
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“ABC has told him he must enter a program to examine why he would say such hateful words,” the insider says.

I believe that it was a fascist Standard Operating Procedure to send people off to "Insane Asylums" if they're thoughts did not match the State Approved Orthodoxy.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me"

http://************/2nbxgs

I believe that it was a fascist Standard Operating Procedure to send people off to "Insane Asylums" if they're thoughts did not match the State Approved Orthodoxy.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me"

http://************/2nbxgs

What is Grey's anatomy? Who is Isaiah Washington? And why should I be afraid?

I haven't seen a transcript of what he said but apparently he's managed to offend just about every single one of his colleagues on the show. Sending him to rehab sounds a little funny, though. Abc should have fired him and had his character fall down a manhole of something.

Maybe it's almost time to repost my tips for escaping from straitjackets again. :)

The network, being privately owned, can require him to do whatever they want to keep his job. Though I think the reason he used such "hateful words" is easy. He's a homophobic bigot.

I haven't seen a transcript of what he said but apparently he's managed to offend just about every single one of his colleagues on the show. Sending him to rehab sounds a little funny, though. Abc should have fired him and had his character fall down a manhole of something.

Yes, because saying something that offends someone -- ohnoes!!!1one -- is a horrible offense that should be punished with ruination. :rolleyes:

People need to grow some fuckin' skin.

T.R. Knight is gay?!:eek: :( He's so freaking cute, why are all the cute boys gay?

Would you rather they fired him, Reaganodia?

Yes, because saying something that offends someone -- ohnoes!!!1one -- is a horrible offense that should be punished with ruination. :rolleyes:Creating a hostile work environment is a horrible offense, yes.

T.R. Knight is gay?!:eek: :( He's so freaking cute, why are all the cute boys gay?Yep, as is Neil Patrick Harris.

Yep, as is Neil Patrick Harris.

Which actually only makes his Barney character even funnier. :D

Our country used to be so cool. Remember this quote?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend, to the death, your right to say it."

Yep, as is Neil Patrick Harris.

:eek: Are you serious? Neil Patrick Harris is gay? Heh.

Our country used to be so cool. Remember this quote?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend, to the death, your right to say it."

Uh...that wasn't said by someone from the US. That was a Frenchman.

Barney? I am unfamiliar with anything he's done post doogie, save for that role in Starship Troopers.

How I Met Your Mother. He plays a sleazy, sex-crazed heterosexual guy.

Would you rather they fired him, Reaganodia?

How about telling him to keep his opinions of others to himself? That's how Adults handle these things

Yes, because saying something that offends someone -- ohnoes!!!1one -- is a horrible offense that should be punished with ruination. :rolleyes:

People need to grow some fuckin' skin.
Not for everything. Had someone dropped the N-bomb on him, damn right there would be public outcry, and job loss for the racist piece of shit using it.

He may feel that way, fine, but you don't get to go around your workplace sayinge ever vile thing you want, and expect to get away with it.

:eek: Are you serious? Neil Patrick Harris is gay? Heh.Indeed. Ironically, there was more hoopla surrounding when Lance Bass came out. I say ironically because one would expect boy-band members to be gay. <giggle>

Which actually only makes his Barney character even funnier. :D

Barney? I am unfamiliar with anything he's done post doogie, save for that role in Starship Troopers.

Though I think the reason he used such "hateful words" is easy. He's a homophobic bigot.

To put it in context, there was an argument taking place between some of the cast members. At this juncture, TR hadn't outed himself to his cast mates as yet. Heated words, Isaiah says something more to shock and draw attention than with any real intents towards homophobia, bigotry, or any personal attack against TR. Assuming that he's a homophobic bigot is dismissive of him as a person and belittling to your own intelligence. Do some research, think about all the various factors involved, then open your pie-hole.

Our country used to be so cool. Remember this quote?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend, to the death, your right to say it."

Testify.

Our country used to be so cool. Remember this quote?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend, to the death, your right to say it."

which has absolutly nothing to do with this situation as this hasn't been any governmental action.

Yes, because saying something that offends someone -- ohnoes!!!1one -- is a horrible offense that should be punished with ruination. :rolleyes:

People need to grow some fuckin' skin.

If it were a one-time thing, yes, I might be inclined to agree with you, but the man apparently does it on a regular basis. Look at it this way, do you think he'd just "grow some fuckin' skin" if TR Knight and the others started calling him "******" all the time?

How about telling him to keep his opinions of others to himself? That's how Adults handle these thingsKind of late when the damage has already been done.

Yep, as is Neil Patrick Harris.
teh gay agenda is trying to steal all my eye candy for their side. :(
I forgive them though......I mean I can only look anyway. ;)





Our country used to be so cool. Remember this quote?

"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend, to the death, your right to say it."

that doesn't work at work.

I got fired for calling a parent a stupid bitch once, I didn't see it as an affront to my first amendment rights.

How I Met Your Mother. He plays a sleazy, sex-crazed heterosexual guy.

never saw that show, but doesn'tit have the cute chick from buffy in it?

Kind of late when the damage has already been done.

And pretty much any organised workplace has a disciplinary code to deal with interpersonal conflict, or conduct unbecoming.

never saw that show, but doesn'tit have the cute chick from buffy in it?
Oooh...if it does I'm so there...*salivates*

which has absolutly nothing to do with this situation as this hasn't been any governmental action.


There's more to having your rights oppressed than simple government involvement. All it takes is someone saying that "you can't say that", and attempting to enforce it.

I will agree that there is a case to be made for creating a hostile work environment, but this whole thing got blown way out of proportion. If it had been the other way around, and TR had called Isaiah a faggot, there would be no curfuffle at all, because of who said it.

never saw that show, but doesn'tit have the cute chick from buffy in it?

Oooh...if it does I'm so there...*salivates*

Yes, Alyson Hannigan (Willow from Buffy) is in it. My gf, who knows I've got a thing for her, gives me shit all the time about watching the show.

she is, it's one of those shows though that about 10% of the time it's hilarious and good and 90% of the time it's a rehash of Friends.

Hmmm. Does she ever get naked, or even semi-naked? That would be the deciding factor.

she is, it's one of those shows though that about 10% of the time it's hilarious and good and 90% of the time it's a rehash of Friends.

Bah, it's far better than that Friends rubbish.

Oooh...if it does I'm so there...*salivates*

she is, it's one of those shows though that about 10% of the time it's hilarious and good and 90% of the time it's a rehash of Friends.

There's more to having your rights oppressed than simple government involvement. All it takes is someone saying that "you can't say that", and attempting to enforce it.

The first amendment reads "congress shall make no law", and no law has been made, this is a private agreement between parties. You have the right to speak freely (with some exceptions) and not fear that you will be jailed for it.

It's ludicrus in the extreme to think that this means you have the right to say anything, at any time, and not suffer any consequences.

It's US network television, darling. No one gets naked or semi-naked, except Dennis Franz.

*shakes fist at the sky* "Damn you Salizar!"

Well then I'll stick to the hot girl on girl action in "The L Word" on Showcase.

It was also the case in the Soviet Union during the Brezhnev era, and was used to contain political prisoners and people the regime simply didn't like.

Hmmm. Does she ever get naked, or even semi-naked? That would be the deciding factor.

It's US network television, darling. No one gets naked or semi-naked, except Dennis Franz.

Bah, it's far better than that Friends rubbish.

only about 10% of the time.

only about 10% of the time.

Always. Friends was shite.

It was also the case in the Soviet Union during the Brezhnev era, and was used to contain political prisoners and people the regime simply didn't like.
Right, and comparing it to this situation is patently ridiculous.

People crying, 'political repression' need to back it up with some proof of political involvement.

only for a while, there at the end (meaning the last 4 seasons)

It was always awful.

Right, and comparing it to this situation is patently ridiculous.

Yes, a million times so.

In the 1970's USSR, you didn't choose to undergo treatment, you were arrested at night and stuck in to the asylum after a fake trial for having a copy of One Day in the Life of Ivan Desinovich in your apartment.

Always. Friends was shite.

only for a while, there at the end (meaning the last 4 seasons)

It was always awful.

maybe it was too witty for you

maybe it was too witty for you

It was never as good as the first two seasons of the British show "Coupling"...

Aww...the hysterical 'the thought police are after us' seems to have stopped.

It was never as good as the first two seasons of the British show "Coupling"...

well, of course not. British comedy can be 100% crap and still beat most American sitcoms, even the good-ish ones.

well, of course not. British comedy can be 100% crap and still beat most American sitcoms, even the good-ish ones.

I don't know. I was pretty horrified to see the British show "The Office" (which is painfully bad), get adapted to the American audience... and somehow get even worse.

It was like finding out there is an uber-hell, where Satan sends all the people who are too bad for normal hell....

It was never as good as the first two seasons of the British show "Coupling"...

Those were bloody brilliant!

"Oh, Jeffrey..." :D

Maybe it's almost time to repost my tips for escaping from straitjackets again. :)

Yes, I think you should. But I won't post in this thread again....so maybe not.... *flees*

Those were bloody brilliant!

"Oh, Jeffrey..." :D

It went downhill a bit after he left. :(

But the first two seasons... genius.

Patrick 'confusing' lesbians with his hair... Steve's famous 'lesbian spank inferno' speech over dinner... The Melty Man cometh... :D

The state-approved orthodoxy IS anti-gay.

Grey’s Anatomy star Isaiah Washington has entered a residential treatment facility in an effort to quell the controversy surrounding his anti-gay remarks — and save his job, Life & Style has learned exclusively.
***
“ABC has told him he must enter a program to examine why he would say such hateful words,” the insider says.

Nostradamus had nothing on Nietzsche:

No shepherd, and one herd! Everyone wanteth the same; everyone is
equal: he who hath other sentiments goeth voluntarily into the
madhouse.
"Formerly all the world was insane,"- say the subtlest of them,
and blink thereby.

THUS SPAKE ZARATHUSTRA: http://philosophy.eserver.org/nietzsche-zarathustra.txt

Hmmm. Does she ever get naked, or even semi-naked? That would be the deciding factor.

http://mobius.orcon.net.nz/btard/callthepolice.jpg

well, of course not. British comedy can be 100% crap and still beat most American sitcoms, even the good-ish ones.

Coupling is my favorite show though I stoutly refuse to watch the American version.
Unfortunately I just don’t think most American shows are that funny, partly because they are so bent on either not offending anyone or pitching directly to the lowest common denominator with shows like ‘Ow my balls’ (two cookies and a waffle to everyone who knows that reference without having to look it up).

The fourth season was still good, but it lost a lot of its appeal without Jeff.

Part of the reason why I like it so much is that the first episode I saw was ‘The girl with two breasts’ and I very strongly identified with Jeff in that one. I, or one of my close friends, have been in practically every situation in that show. I thought it a major breakthrough when I progressed from being compared to Jeff to people liking me to Steve (it is my fervent hope to one day be a Patrick… or at least have his closet).

Anyway, I think the downfall of the American Coupling is two-fold.

First off, they chose to do a word for word copy of the original, with the actors basically attempting to mimic the original. This will obviously yield horrid results – the actors bring their own special something to a character. The only way to do something like this is to allow a lot of flexibility in the script (especially considering the basic linguistic differences) and to allow the actors to develop their own characters. A sitcom based off of Coupling, but not a crappy attempt to duplicate it, might have worked.

Secondly, you cannot air anything good on network television. Any decent show pretty much has to be on cable. This is very much the problem with Sex in the city, to put that on network television they had to do some major editing. Network television is regulated by the FCC, which is in turn heavily influenced by those people who have nothing better to do than call up the FCC and complain about obscenity and how they should ‘think of the children’.

that doesn't work at work.

I got fired for calling a parent a stupid bitch once, I didn't see it as an affront to my first amendment rights.

OMG that's awesome. Might you be willing to share the anecdote?

which has absolutly nothing to do with this situation as this hasn't been any governmental action.

I disagree. The Government isn't the only possible threat to freedom of speech. There was a story in the news a few years ago about a woman who was fired because of a political bumper sticker on her car. The employer maintained that her car being parked in their lot with that bumper sticker might be construed as an indirect endorsement by the company (As if people aren't smart enough to figure out for themselves that it's not). They also claimed that free speech is protected only from Government action.

As people in a free society, we have to guard each other's rights always, even when it's not the Government who is the opposition.

Uh...that wasn't said by someone from the US. That was a Frenchman.

Really? Who?

If it were me, I'd just emphasize the word faggot even more and say it more often. What a bunch of fag-loving faggoty faggot fags...

If it were me, I'd just emphasize the word faggot even more and say it more often. What a bunch of fag-loving faggoty faggot fags...

:rolleyes:

I think that, much like your girlfriend has the right to dump you for walking up to your neighbor and telling her she's got a nice ass, the company you work for has the right to fire you for saying unpleasant things inside it. They sent him to rehab, they could have fired him. It's not a 1st Ammendment issue, it's their right.

If it were me, I'd just emphasize the word faggot even more and say it more often. What a bunch of fag-loving faggoty faggot fags...

And then they'd - another word with F - fire you.

I believe that it was a fascist Standard Operating Procedure to send people off to "Insane Asylums" if they're thoughts did not match the State Approved Orthodoxy.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me"

http://************/2nbxgs

Fricken hell...

And then they'd - another word with F - fire you.

And then he'll continue, getting to the point of screaming "Yah fuckin' queer n****r faggot!"

And then we will all have a good chuckle when he's charged with harassment.

They also claimed that free speech is protected only from Government action.

And it is. Of course, you could force companies to abide by freedom of speech, but that'd be socialism.

Yep, as is Neil Patrick Harris.

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