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Need some advice....

Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:02
I know this is long, but if you could read it all and help, I would really appreciate it.



Well, I have this one cousin who is the same age. Her and I are really really close, like best friends. I would choose talking to her over anything else, and she might say the same. I met her this summer when we went to visit her family in Nebraska(We live in NY). I asked her and her two brothers for their screennames. Her and I ended up talking all the time, now we talk probably an hour a night, and are really really close to each other.


But recently, I messed up. See, about...a week and a half ago saturday (last last saturday), her friend dylan and his girlfriend broke up. I never really liked dylan in the first place. Him and my cousin always say they're "best friends", but they are just kidding around, they really aren't. Dylan always used to be in my cousins AIM profile. She took him out the onetime, but left something about me in there. Dylan flipped out...and her being the nice person she is put him back in. He's been in their ever since.

But so anyway, Dylan and his girlfriend broke up. They ended up getting back together shortly after, so it's not a big deal. My cousin though, talks to dylan all the time now. I was talking on the phone with her after it all happened, and she kept pausing or not responding. I asked why, and she was like "Oh sorry, I'm talking to Dylan online."

At first I was like, all right. But it continued throughtout the next week. Onetime I called her, and she was like, "ahh sorry...Dylan's calling me back right now, I'll talk to you later." It was beginning to get a little annoying. Then I found out her and dylan we're going to a moive together. This bothered me a little, the fact she was going to the movie theater alone with a guy I already didn't like(I know how guys act in the lockeroom and what they say about girls, so I'm a little protective of her now), and I remembered Dylan had a girlfriend he had recently fought with.

I begin to think, maybe Dylan was going to try and cheat on his girlfriend. Or maybe just try and get her jealous. But I mentioned it to my cousin, and she didn't really think he would. We were talking about it the one night, and she was like..."Yea, I asked him if I should ask Brad and Shelby to come, but he said no...no you don't have to."

Later, she found out his girlfriend wasn't going to the moive either. She asked him the next day, and he said he wasn't gonna bother telling her. He said if she got mad or anything, he would take all the blame and be her slave forever. This is suspicious. But I didn't really want to tell her, "Don't go to the movie"...so I talked to her some more and she ended up bringing her friend Bailey. So I guess it was all right.

Then in her profile, it usually just said like: Dylan Timp. :)

But then it changed to: Fizze + Eddie = Best friends forever.

Then for me....it merely said. Matthew:)

Normally, it has a sentence or something about me, more then my name. I feel like, Dylan replaced me...I know he couldn't have because her and I are way closer...but I still feel like it.

Then, I had a bad day thursday and friday at school and indoor track. I was pretty down on the phone and online, so this annoyed me. ANY time one of us has a problem with something, or is down...it's me. So I didn't tell her about my hate for Dylan I've developed, because he really used to be kind of a jerk to her. He suddenly gets nicer after the fight with his girlfriend though. But sorry, anyways. I didn't really tell her on friday I had a bad day, because I didn't want to ruin the conversation again. She caught on though, and kept wanting me to tell her about it. Online, it went somehting like this in the middle of our conversation.

Her: All right, come on and tell me what's up.
Me: Nothing, hbu?
Her: The ceiling smart ass.
Her: That's right, I said ass.
Her: YOUR AN ASS!!!
Her: :)
Her: Just kidding
Her: x24982743809327582
Me: :( sorry...

The reason it went like that, is because she NEVER swears. Even when she's mad, she barley ever uses any bad words. So I know, she had to have meant that to say it. That mad me feel terrible.


So then last saturday rolled around, and they went to the movies. I ended up not hearing from her all day. The next day I had a track meet. Normally, she leaves me a message on my phone during then. I didn't get a message from her that day though...so I was depressed about that.


Then Monday, i didn't leave her a message before school. I always leave her a message on her phone before I go to school that she listens to after, and she leaves me on during track I listen to after. I haven't left her a message the last three days. She's left me one everyday though, and says during them she hopes I'm not too down. I don't want to tell her the half of it. And I haven't listened to today's message yet.


So, here's what happened overall.

Last Last Saturday: First Dylan mentione. No big deal.
Last week Sun - Wed: Mentioned Dylan everyday, found out she was going to the movies with him.
Last Thurs: Had a bad day. She found out about it, tried to cheer me up. Didn't really work. (Oh, I got in a fight with my friend, like a fist fight that day. She wasn't happy about that)
Last Firday: Bad day again, tried not to tell her. She called me an ass, made me feel worse.
Last Satuday: Movie with Dylan. No contact
Last Sunday: No contact
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday of this week: Still no contact. Haven't left her any messages, she leaves me some though.


So, I talked to my other friend about this. She says she really thinks I should talk to her about all of it, and not hold it in. She wants me to explain everything to her about Dylan and stuff, but then if I do that, my cousin will change. She'll never mention dylan, and I won't know if their going out or anything.



So, what do you think I should do?
Ladamesansmerci
25-01-2007, 04:11
1) In case you haven't noticed, your cousin is already changing and distancing herself from you. Talk to her if you don't think this is the way to go.

2) Nobody's going to stay the same forever, and just because you two were close doesn't mean you're going to be close forever. Still, tell her what you think of this Dylan guy and let her make her own judgement. You can't make her stop liking a friend of hers.

3) Why do you not like this Dylan dude?

and 4) Sorry to be a grammar nazi but your pronoun reference problems through all that was KILLING me.
Pyotr
25-01-2007, 04:13
So, what do you think I should do?

Oh I think you know full well what you have to do.
(Fnord)
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:14
1) In case you haven't noticed, your cousin is already changing and distancing herself from you. Talk to her if you don't think this is the way to go.

2) Nobody's going to stay the same forever, and just because you two were close doesn't mean you're going to be close forever. Still, tell her what you think of this Dylan guy and let her make her own judgement. You can't make her stop liking a friend of hers.

3) Why do you not like this Dylan dude?

and 4) Sorry to be a grammar nazi but your pronoun reference problems through all that was KILLING me.

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1) How is she doing this?

2) I don't want her to stop liking him. I just don't want to be replaced by him. And if is very possible we could be close together forever.

3) He's a jerk. He would flip out at her for taking him out of his profile, he would be kind of bossy, and if she didn't come outside to see him during school before 3rd period, even if it was rainy or cold or something, he would punch her hard in the arm later and call her a jerk. He's bi-polar. She is a really tolerant person though, and just puts up with it.

4) Sorry.


Oh I think you know full well what you have to do.
(Fnord)



Know, I don't. If I did I wouldn't be asking. Can you please tell me?
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2007, 04:16
For a sec, I thought you were gonna confess you had a crush on her... :eek: :D

Seriously though, Life happens, gotta make the best of it. Hope things work out eventually. Sorry, that's all the help I can come up with.
IL Ruffino
25-01-2007, 04:17
So, what do you think I should do?

Get a blog?
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:17
For a sec, I thought you were gonna confess you had a crush on her... :eek: :D

Seriously though, Life happens, gotta make the best of it. Hope things work out eventually. Sorry, that's all the help I can come up with.

Well, thanks anyway.
Pyotr
25-01-2007, 04:20
For a sec, I thought you were gonna confess you had a crush on her... :eek: :D

Up until the 3rd paragraph I thought for sure it was steering into that neighborhood.

Oh, the creepiness.
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:23
Up until the 3rd paragraph I thought for sure it was steering into that neighborhood.

Oh, the creepiness.

I'm oh-to-use to hearing that...
But seriously people. What do I do?
Infinite Revolution
25-01-2007, 04:24
sounds like you need to let go a bit, that all seems a bit obsessive. and do you actually know this guy dylan, or are you just jealous of him?

edit:
Up until the 3rd paragraph I thought for sure it was steering into that neighborhood.

Oh, the creepiness.

yeh, me too.
Zavistan
25-01-2007, 04:25
Up until the 3rd paragraph I thought for sure it was steering into that neighborhood.

Oh, the creepiness.

Up until about that point I thought the poster was female...

I don't really have any advice, but just wanted to acknowledge a fellow person who does indoor track. Yea. Go track.
Ladamesansmerci
25-01-2007, 04:26
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1) How is she doing this?

2) I don't want her to stop liking him. I just don't want to be replaced by him. And if is very possible we could be close together forever.

3) He's a jerk. He would flip out at her for taking him out of his profile, he would be kind of bossy, and if she didn't come outside to see him during school before 3rd period, even if it was rainy or cold or something, he would punch her hard in the arm later and call her a jerk. He's bi-polar. She is a really tolerant person though, and just puts up with it.

4) Sorry.

Know, I don't. If I did I wouldn't be asking. Can you please tell me?
1) By swearing and starting to shut you out?

2) It's obvious you want her to have nothing to do with this guy. Don't deny it.

3) Okay, he's a jerk. There's nothing you can do about the way he treats her, so all you CAN do it talk to her and present your point. In the end, it's her decision, and you can't do anything to change that either.

4) It's alright. The grammar nazi in me likes to rear its ugly head sometimes.
For a sec, I thought you were gonna confess you had a crush on her... :eek: :D
yeah, I got that impression too. :eek:
Get a blog?
This kind of rant is golden stuff on blogs. :p
Rainbowwws
25-01-2007, 04:27
Oh I think you know full well what you have to do.
(Fnord)

You mean bone his cousin, right?
Chietuste
25-01-2007, 04:30
1) Pray

2) Pray harder

3) Approach her. You don't need to tell her everything. I would probably actually advise against that. I'm not totally sure what your problem is. I realize you don't like Dylan and that you're upset that your relationship seems to be weakening, but it doesn't seem like you're helping the situation much.

Tell her how you feel about Dylan. Not just: "He's an ass! Stay away from him!" It needs to be something more concrete and express your concern, not your anger or frustration. You should definately let her know that those feelings exist, but they ought not to be your focus. Your focus ought to be her emotional safety.

Tell her that you value her friendship. Expound on that. You feel left out, like you're loosing a good friend, etc.

Work it out before you do talk to her. Do a lot of introspection. You don't need to have a procedure or a formula, but you should have your feelings figured out as best you can.

And for goodness' sake return her messages! You don't have to bare your soul to her before you have everything worked out, but if you aren't talking, she might distance herself even more.

4) Pray some more.

I'll be praying. Best wishes!
Secret aj man
25-01-2007, 04:30
Up until the 3rd paragraph I thought for sure it was steering into that neighborhood.

Oh, the creepiness.

i thought the same...but then i am a bit weird.

it does sound like a crush,but i haven't been young for some time now,and when i was,as the poster stated,he knows how guys are.

mostly i can understand his not wanting to be replaced,but,to the poster,if you care for her,and you dont have a crush(which is not wrong)you should be happy if she is happy.
i'm sure you dont want her to be used or taken advantage of,as most(most..not all)guys want one thing..but that also is part of growing up.

my advice would be simply,be her friend,dont get upset about who she see's or if she gets hurt,just be her friend.
if she gets hurt or used..at least she will have a friend to talk to about it with.that's what friends are for,you cant dictate peoples lives or friends..you can only be a friend.
Dobbsworld
25-01-2007, 04:32
Get a blog?

Il Ruffino ftw.
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:33
You mean bone his cousin, right?

You can go bone yourself, fucker.



I don't really have any advice, but just wanted to acknowledge a fellow person who does indoor track. Yea. Go track.


Yea, track is awesome.

1) By swearing and starting to shut you out?

2) It's obvious you want her to have nothing to do with this guy. Don't deny it.

3) Okay, he's a jerk. There's nothing you can do about the way he treats her, so all you CAN do it talk to her and present your point. In the end, it's her decision, and you can't do anything to change that either.

4) It's alright. The grammar nazi in me likes to rear its ugly head sometimes.



1) Well, she felt bad about it an apolagized a bunch of times. And she hasn't realy shut me out. Otherwise, she wouldn't still be leaving me messages every day.

2) Your right. I don't really want her to have anything to do with him. Oh well

3)I know it's her decision. I don't want to tell her about it because then she'll just not ever mention him. If she is gonna continue being friends with him, which she probably will be til he has another fucking mood swing, then I would like to know what's going on with it.

4) No offense taken man.
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:35
1) Pray

2) Pray harder

3) Approach her. You don't need to tell her everything. I would probably actually advise against that. I'm not totally sure what your problem is. I realize you don't like Dylan and that you're upset that your relationship seems to be weakening, but it doesn't seem like you're helping the situation much.

Tell her how you feel about Dylan. Not just: "He's an ass! Stay away from him!" It needs to be something more concrete and express your concern, not your anger or frustration. You should definately let her know that those feelings exist, but they ought not to be your focus. Your focus ought to be her emotional safety.

Tell her that you value her friendship. Expound on that. You feel left out, like you're loosing a good friend, etc.

Work it out before you do talk to her. Do a lot of introspection. You don't need to have a procedure or a formula, but you should have your feelings figured out as best you can.

And for goodness' sake return her messages! You don't have to bare your soul to her before you have everything worked out, but if you aren't talking, she might distance herself even more.

4) Pray some more.

I'll be praying. Best wishes!


Thanks. You were the most helpful so far.
Ladamesansmerci
25-01-2007, 04:35
sounds like you need to let go a bit, that all seems a bit obsessive. and do you actually know this guy dylan, or are you just jealous of him?
Yeah, not to be mean or anything, but this whole thing really shouldn't be that big of a deal.
You mean bone his cousin, right?
*shudder*

As creepy as that is, I can see it happening. :S
Chietuste
25-01-2007, 04:37
Thanks. You were the most helpful so far.

You're welcome. Glad to help.
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:39
i thought the same...but then i am a bit weird.

it does sound like a crush,but i haven't been young for some time now,and when i was,as the poster stated,he knows how guys are.

mostly i can understand his not wanting to be replaced,but,to the poster,if you care for her,and you dont have a crush(which is not wrong)you should be happy if she is happy.
i'm sure you dont want her to be used or taken advantage of,as most(most..not all)guys want one thing..but that also is part of growing up.

my advice would be simply,be her friend,dont get upset about who she see's or if she gets hurt,just be her friend.
if she gets hurt or used..at least she will have a friend to talk to about it with.that's what friends are for,you cant dictate peoples lives or friends..you can only be a friend.



Thanks to you too. Yea, if any guy ended up using her or taken advantage of her and....well, you know....I think I would fly all the way there and beat the fuck out of him with a baseball bat.
Infinite Revolution
25-01-2007, 04:41
Thanks to you too. Yea, if any guy ended up using her or taken advantage of her and....well, you know....I think I would fly all the way there and beat the fuck out of him with a baseball bat.

fists are quicker, and the prison sentence will probably be shorter.
Chietuste
25-01-2007, 04:46
Thanks to you too. Yea, if any guy ended up using her or taken advantage of her and....well, you know....I think I would fly all the way there and beat the fuck out of him with a baseball bat.

That supposes that he does take advantage of her. But what if she goes along happily the whole way?

You need to be prepared for that. You seem to think that Dylan has no virtue whatsoever (and he may not, I don't know), but you need to consider the possibility that he and your cousin are going to have a very happy relationship, however unlikely that may seem.

And every time a new relationship begins (especially a romantic one), the balance with all the other relationships shift.

Just another thing to keep in mind.

And if he does take advantage of her, your first priority ought to be her safety and care, not your revenge.

Quoted from Secret aj man:
i'm sure your friend would rather talk to you and have your shoulder,rather then visit you in jail.

Another thing to keep in mind.
Secret aj man
25-01-2007, 04:48
Thanks to you too. Yea, if any guy ended up using her or taken advantage of her and....well, you know....I think I would fly all the way there and beat the fuck out of him with a baseball bat.

i would re think the last part....maybe fly out there,tell her it happens to everyone,lesson learned and give her a shoulder.

unless you like being visited in jail.

i know there are times when violence is the only recoarse...this aint one of them.

been in jail,and had the pleasure of my son and wife coming to visit me....not so great..my daughter wouldnt come because she did not want to see me in a jumpsuit and chains.

i'm sure your friend would rather talk to you and have your shoulder,rather then visit you in jail.

by the way..people do have an instinctual way of knowing they are being used..they just dont want to admit it...at first.
she will learn,maybe the hard way,maybe she will listen to herself...either way..it is for her to learn.
Alloric
25-01-2007, 04:51
That supposes that he does take advantage of her. But what if she goes along happily the whole way?

You need to be prepared for that. You seem to think that Dylan has no virtue whatsoever (and he may not, I don't know), but you need to consider the possibility that he and your cousin are going to have a very happy relationship, however unlikely that may seem.

And every time a new relationship begins (especially a romantic one), the balance with all the other relationships shift.

Just another thing to keep in mind.

And if he does take advantage of her, your first priority ought to be her safety and care, not your revenge.

Another thing to keep in mind.

I suppose...
Minaris
25-01-2007, 04:53
For a sec, I thought you were gonna confess you had a crush on her...

Happened before.

Seriously, there was a thread here about a guy and his cousin who were having sex before the holidays.
Chietuste
25-01-2007, 04:58
I suppose...

It won't be easy. Anyone who says that is very naive. But you just have to face that she is a free agent: she has choices to make and many of them are going to be bad ones.

I don't know what your sense of morality is (or if you even have one) but based on that, logic, and prayer, you need to think ahead of time how you are going to respond. There will be times when it may be necessary to be harsh and gruff. But more often, it is necessary to be tender.

And she is going to make "neutral" or good choices which you aren't going to like. But it's her life and her God given privelege to behave as she will. How are you going to respond to these decisions?

I don't mean to preach or come off sounding like a parent. I've probably done enough of that already. I was spared a lot of the drama in high school and am being spared a lot of the drama at college. Most of the relationship problems I've seen and I see are caused by not being prepared.

Preparation will not stop pain or disappointment. But it will make the situation go much more smoothly.

And above all else in this situation, pray!
Alloric
25-01-2007, 05:26
It won't be easy. Anyone who says that is very naive. But you just have to face that she is a free agent: she has choices to make and many of them are going to be bad ones.

I don't know what your sense of morality is (or if you even have one) but based on that, logic, and prayer, you need to think ahead of time how you are going to respond. There will be times when it may be necessary to be harsh and gruff. But more often, it is necessary to be tender.

And she is going to make "neutral" or good choices which you aren't going to like. But it's her life and her God given privelege to behave as she will. How are you going to respond to these decisions?

I don't mean to preach or come off sounding like a parent. I've probably done enough of that already. I was spared a lot of the drama in high school and am being spared a lot of the drama at college. Most of the relationship problems I've seen and I see are caused by not being prepared.

Preparation will not stop pain or disappointment. But it will make the situation go much more smoothly.

And above all else in this situation, pray!


No, I don't see her making too many bad choices in her life. She is religious and good moralled, doens't drink or anythign and hasn't had a boyfriend before.


I'm gonna listen to that message she left now.
Chietuste
25-01-2007, 05:29
No, I don't see her making too many bad choices in her life. She is religious and good moralled, doens't drink or anythign and hasn't had a boyfriend before.

Good. Let's hope and pray it stays that way.

I'm gonna listen to that message she left now.

Good. I must get to bed. Prayers and best wishes!
Alloric
25-01-2007, 05:35
Good. Let's hope and pray it stays that way.



Good. I must get to bed. Prayers and best wishes!


Yea. I really hope it does.



And thanks a lot. Good night. I should get to bed too, I got a big math exam tomorrow.
The Plutonian Empire
25-01-2007, 05:57
Happened before.

Seriously, there was a thread here about a guy and his cousin who were having sex before the holidays.
Link please. :D
South Lizasauria
25-01-2007, 06:00
I know this is long, but if you could read it all and help, I would really appreciate it.



Well, I have this one cousin who is the same age. Her and I are really really close, like best friends. I would choose talking to her over anything else, and she might say the same. I met her this summer when we went to visit her family in Nebraska(We live in NY). I asked her and her two brothers for their screennames. Her and I ended up talking all the time, now we talk probably an hour a night, and are really really close to each other.


But recently, I messed up. See, about...a week and a half ago saturday (last last saturday), her friend dylan and his girlfriend broke up. I never really liked dylan in the first place. Him and my cousin always say they're "best friends", but they are just kidding around, they really aren't. Dylan always used to be in my cousins AIM profile. She took him out the onetime, but left something about me in there. Dylan flipped out...and her being the nice person she is put him back in. He's been in their ever since.

But so anyway, Dylan and his girlfriend broke up. They ended up getting back together shortly after, so it's not a big deal. My cousin though, talks to dylan all the time now. I was talking on the phone with her after it all happened, and she kept pausing or not responding. I asked why, and she was like "Oh sorry, I'm talking to Dylan online."

At first I was like, all right. But it continued throughtout the next week. Onetime I called her, and she was like, "ahh sorry...Dylan's calling me back right now, I'll talk to you later." It was beginning to get a little annoying. Then I found out her and dylan we're going to a moive together. This bothered me a little, the fact she was going to the movie theater alone with a guy I already didn't like(I know how guys act in the lockeroom and what they say about girls, so I'm a little protective of her now), and I remembered Dylan had a girlfriend he had recently fought with.

I begin to think, maybe Dylan was going to try and cheat on his girlfriend. Or maybe just try and get her jealous. But I mentioned it to my cousin, and she didn't really think he would. We were talking about it the one night, and she was like..."Yea, I asked him if I should ask Brad and Shelby to come, but he said no...no you don't have to."

Later, she found out his girlfriend wasn't going to the moive either. She asked him the next day, and he said he wasn't gonna bother telling her. He said if she got mad or anything, he would take all the blame and be her slave forever. This is suspicious. But I didn't really want to tell her, "Don't go to the movie"...so I talked to her some more and she ended up bringing her friend Bailey. So I guess it was all right.

Then in her profile, it usually just said like: Dylan Timp. :)

But then it changed to: Fizze + Eddie = Best friends forever.

Then for me....it merely said. Matthew:)

Normally, it has a sentence or something about me, more then my name. I feel like, Dylan replaced me...I know he couldn't have because her and I are way closer...but I still feel like it.

Then, I had a bad day thursday and friday at school and indoor track. I was pretty down on the phone and online, so this annoyed me. ANY time one of us has a problem with something, or is down...it's me. So I didn't tell her about my hate for Dylan I've developed, because he really used to be kind of a jerk to her. He suddenly gets nicer after the fight with his girlfriend though. But sorry, anyways. I didn't really tell her on friday I had a bad day, because I didn't want to ruin the conversation again. She caught on though, and kept wanting me to tell her about it. Online, it went somehting like this in the middle of our conversation.

Her: All right, come on and tell me what's up.
Me: Nothing, hbu?
Her: The ceiling smart ass.
Her: That's right, I said ass.
Her: YOUR AN ASS!!!
Her: :)
Her: Just kidding
Her: x24982743809327582
Me: :( sorry...

The reason it went like that, is because she NEVER swears. Even when she's mad, she barley ever uses any bad words. So I know, she had to have meant that to say it. That mad me feel terrible.


So then last saturday rolled around, and they went to the movies. I ended up not hearing from her all day. The next day I had a track meet. Normally, she leaves me a message on my phone during then. I didn't get a message from her that day though...so I was depressed about that.


Then Monday, i didn't leave her a message before school. I always leave her a message on her phone before I go to school that she listens to after, and she leaves me on during track I listen to after. I haven't left her a message the last three days. She's left me one everyday though, and says during them she hopes I'm not too down. I don't want to tell her the half of it. And I haven't listened to today's message yet.


So, here's what happened overall.

Last Last Saturday: First Dylan mentione. No big deal.
Last week Sun - Wed: Mentioned Dylan everyday, found out she was going to the movies with him.
Last Thurs: Had a bad day. She found out about it, tried to cheer me up. Didn't really work. (Oh, I got in a fight with my friend, like a fist fight that day. She wasn't happy about that)
Last Firday: Bad day again, tried not to tell her. She called me an ass, made me feel worse.
Last Satuday: Movie with Dylan. No contact
Last Sunday: No contact
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday of this week: Still no contact. Haven't left her any messages, she leaves me some though.


So, I talked to my other friend about this. She says she really thinks I should talk to her about all of it, and not hold it in. She wants me to explain everything to her about Dylan and stuff, but then if I do that, my cousin will change. She'll never mention dylan, and I won't know if their going out or anything.



So, what do you think I should do?

Well to get even more solid advice we must know what we're dealing with.

Tell us about this Dylan character...about his morals, lifestyle, what he values most and such. So far all I can tell you with the only info you gave he seems to be hard fisted and controlling, I mean I flipped out about girls deleting me off their contacts but that didn't change their minds because I was a muscle less nerd, anyhoo she put him back on, that gives me the impression that he scared her too, and correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's scared her into spending time with him or maybe he's forcing her, I also believe he's manipulating her due to her quick personality change with her suddenly swearing and all, people don't change personality that fast for no reason. And he's obviously cheating and usually during 'love scandals' as I like to call them, tons of rotten events occur. To sum it all up I think she's being forced to spend time with him for some reason involving his girlfriend, he's manipulating, taking advantage and corrupting her and you should do what it takes to get to the bottom of this and deal with it the best way you can, the way to properly extricate may depend on the situation involving his girlfriend, find out what you can.

And to motivate you alittle...don't fail and let your friend become anotehr one of cupid's victims, or you might end up like me and I know no one here wants that.

cupid-->:sniper: <Bullseye! I've just #$@# another one's life! teehee!)
Harlesburg
25-01-2007, 12:25
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So, what do you think I should do?
Give me my 3 minutes back.
She's your damn cousin, let her live her own life hill billy.