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## Catholics oppose raping Dakota Fanning.

The Nazz
24-01-2007, 16:59
Side question--what's the deal with everyone using the pound signs at the beginning of their thread titles?
Khadgar
24-01-2007, 17:00
It doesn't promote pedophilia, it's just really really creepy.


Gah.
Cluichstan
24-01-2007, 17:00
I'm not religious at all, but I still find it disgusting. First and foremost, Dakota Fanning's parents need to be bludgeoned.
Chumblywumbly
24-01-2007, 17:01
Best Thread Title. Ever
Khadgar
24-01-2007, 17:01
Side question--what's the deal with everyone using the pound signs at the beginning of their thread titles?

I blame OcceanDrive, he started it. Though I always thought it was annoying.
Isidoor
24-01-2007, 17:01
probably the best advertisement the makers could wish.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 17:03
A Catholic group is coming out agianst a movie where creepy child actress Dakota Fanning is violently raped. It seems showing a violent rape of a kid constitutes promoting pedophilia. Just like showing Jesus whipped and nailed to lumber constitutes promoting deicide, right?


http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2007/01/24/catholic_group_opposes_dakota_fanning_mo
Luporum
24-01-2007, 17:03
Luporum NOT opposed to raping Dakota Fanning.

When commented, the poster had this to say:

"She tried to ruin one of my favorite movies, Man on Fire, and being raped is a pretty lenient punishment in my opinion."

It was a joke, I don't actually want her to get raped. Holy step son of Joesph you guys are anal.
Kryozerkia
24-01-2007, 17:05
Side question--what's the deal with everyone using the pound signs at the beginning of their thread titles?

Mainly to piss off OceanDrive2. He did to to make his thread stand out. Now the rest of us do it so his threads can't get any more attention than any others.
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 17:06
The OP is the seventh post?? :eek:

A sure sign of the apocalypse! Run away!!

*Flees*
Rhaomi
24-01-2007, 17:06
Side question--what's the deal with everyone using the pound signs at the beginning of their thread titles?
OcceanDrive2 starting doing it with his threads, then DCD starting doing too, it to annoy him, then a few other people jumped on the bandwagon.

Frankly, it's just not funny anymore. It makes it harder to tell threads apart.
Cluichstan
24-01-2007, 17:08
It doesn't promote pedophilia, it's just really really creepy.


Gah.

But what parents could possibly let a director say to their child, "Now, in this scene, there's a guy violently raping you. You need to scream like you're being sexually violated for the first time, with some guy ripping you apart."?

And no, it doesn't promote pedophilia, as I'm sure it's cast in a bad light, but then Trainspotting cast heroin use in a bad light, but idiots didn't get it, and heroin use spiked (no pun intended) after its release.
Luporum
24-01-2007, 17:09
The OP is the seventh post?? :eek:

A sure sign of the apocalypse! Run away!!

*Flees*

Actually it's the sixth post where it becomes the apocolypse.

*grabs forum bible*

When the OP is the seventh post only one of the four horsemen appear: Troll
Chumblywumbly
24-01-2007, 17:09
so, do you guys think a movie (or in fact lets say a TV show) that shows a rape (or eludes to one) glorifies rape? (assuming it’s all adults involved)
No. Of course not.

It’s the same with video game violence, or any other non cuddly-wuddly fiction that is opposed by reactionary groups. I worry about these people who complain.

Can they not tell the difference between fiction and reality? Or depiction and glorification?
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 17:10
so, do you guys think a movie (or in fact lets say a TV show) that shows a rape (or eludes to one) glorifies rape? (assuming it's all adults involved)
Chumblywumbly
24-01-2007, 17:11
but then Trainspotting cast heroin use in a bad light, but idiots didn’t get it, and heroin use spiked (no pun intended) after its release.
Wow. The last thing I wanted to do after reading/watching Trainspotting was go near any skag.
Dzanjir
24-01-2007, 17:11
, I don't really care.
so, do you guys think a movie (or in fact lets say a TV show) that shows a rape (or eludes to one) glorifies rape? (assuming it's all adults involved)

No, all it does is show a rape.
Dzanjir
24-01-2007, 17:13
I try to ignore the time warp most of the time, but even I have to say that that's ridiculous.

Why can't Jolt just set their clocks right? It can't be that hard...

Forums(1) and forums2 are now five minutes apart.

So just wait five minutes if the OP in a thread was made at a time later than your clock displays, and you'll be fine.
Rhaomi
24-01-2007, 17:14
The OP is the seventh post?? :eek:

A sure sign of the apocalypse! Run away!!

*Flees*
I try to ignore the time warp most of the time, but even I have to say that that's ridiculous.

Why can't Jolt just set their clocks right? It can't be that hard...
Isidoor
24-01-2007, 17:15
so, do you guys think a movie (or in fact lets say a TV show) that shows a rape (or eludes to one) glorifies rape? (assuming it's all adults involved)

and if a certain depiction of rape was glorifying it, would that be a reason to ban it?

(and how exactly would one manage to glorify rape?)
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 17:16
Without having seen it, I'll have to say that I doubt it in any way glorifies rape. Though it sounds disturbing enough to make me think that this is a movie I'll avoid - at least not see at the cinema.

Kinda like the movie Irréversible (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/). That did not glorify or promote rape!
Damaske
24-01-2007, 17:16
Pfft! It's a movie! People just need to get over it. Rape happens in real life. Why get all upset over it just because it was put into a movie? It promotes nothing.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 17:17
so, do you guys think a movie (or in fact lets say a TV show) that shows a rape (or eludes to one) glorifies rape? (assuming it's all adults involved)

No. Showing a crime doesn't promote the crime. If it did then we'd have to ban damn near every movie out there for promoting assault or murder or something.
Dzanjir
24-01-2007, 17:17
(and how exactly would one manage to glorify rape?)

(read The Fountainhead)
Cluichstan
24-01-2007, 17:19
Without having seen it, I'll have to say that I doubt it in any way glorifies rape. Though it sounds disturbing enough to make me think that this is a movie I'll avoid - at least not see at the cinema.

Kinda like the movie Irréversible (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/). That did not glorify or promote rape!

Or The Accused. Still, though, what kind of parents expose their 12-year-old daughter to something like that?
Retired WerePenguins
24-01-2007, 17:21
Side question--what's the deal with everyone using the pound signs at the beginning of their thread titles?

You realize that in England it's called a "Hash" sign.

(That caused me do deal of confusion when I had to go to London and the subject was the use of "# files." Pound Files? No Hash Files.)
Ifreann
24-01-2007, 17:22
Or The Accused. Still, though, what kind of parents expose their 12-year-old daughter to something like that?

Ones paying for their new boat with her money?
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 17:23
and if a certain depiction of rape was glorifying it, would that be a reason to ban it?

(and how exactly would one manage to glorify rape?)

it would probably not be something I would want to see, but to ban fictional representations of things......it's just not something I am going to be out there fighting for.
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 17:25
Or The Accused. Still, though, what kind of parents expose their 12-year-old daughter to something like that?

I often wonder the same thing when watching "The Exorcist"
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2007, 17:25
so, do you guys think a movie (or in fact lets say a TV show) that shows a rape (or eludes to one) glorifies rape? (assuming it's all adults involved)

Only if immediately afterwards the rapist is showered with confetee and prizes, the 'arresting officer' actually says that all women are just asking for it, what with their walkin' around and such, and even hands over two burlap sacks of money with dollar signs on them and the rapist is thrown a victory parade and congratulations from the President of the USA and Secretary General of the United Nations ending with the rapist giving a thumbs up to the screen saying, "You should totally try this, kids!" then, yeah-that glorifies rape.

But seeing as it is usually depicted as the most debased thing you can do and horribly damaging to the victim and their family, not so much.
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 17:25
Or The Accused. Still, though, what kind of parents expose their 12-year-old daughter to something like that?

The kind who wants to make lots and lots of money?
Pyotr
24-01-2007, 17:39
First and foremost, Dakota Fanning's parents need to be bludgeoned.

Seconded.

With a hard, not-so-blunt object.
Dempublicents1
24-01-2007, 18:15
I'm not religious at all, but I still find it disgusting. First and foremost, Dakota Fanning's parents need to be bludgeoned.

Do the parents of every child actor who is asked to play the emotion in a scene in which something really scary or awful is happening deserve to be bludgeoned?
Damaske
24-01-2007, 18:38
Do the parents of every child actor who is asked to play the emotion in a scene in which something really scary or awful is happening deserve to be bludgeoned?


I agree..These are actors and know that what they are doing isn't real. And the parents of said actors also know this. Would I object to my daughter playing the role of Henny Penny because she gets eaten? I think not.
Llewdor
24-01-2007, 20:38
Do the parents of every child actor who is asked to play the emotion in a scene in which something really scary or awful is happening deserve to be bludgeoned?
She didn't even have to act like she was being raped. She had to shout and look frightened in extreme close ups, and then clever editing makes it look like she's being raped. She probably never even had to have some guy on top of her.
New Populistania
24-01-2007, 20:46
Why can't you find a better title you perverted sick troll.
Dempublicents1
24-01-2007, 20:47
She didn't even have to act like she was being raped. She had to shout and look frightened in extreme close ups, and then clever editing makes it look like she's being raped. She probably never even had to have some guy on top of her.

No, she didn't - at least according to those involved in making the film. There was no point at which a rape scene was acted out. The child actors in Jurassic Park probably suffered more trauma than Dakota Fanning did making this movie - they actually had a robotic T-Rex truly bearing down on them.

This movie will probably be more traumatic for some of us to watch than it was for Miss Fanning to make.
OcceanDrive2
24-01-2007, 21:30
I blame OcceanDriveof course you do
and I fully expect you to.. :fluffle:
Infinite Revolution
24-01-2007, 21:57
Side question--what's the deal with everyone using the pound signs at the beginning of their thread titles?

dunno, they look like hash's to me: #, not £
Greater Trostia
24-01-2007, 21:59
I guess the creepiest part of it is this:

Fanning's mother Joy was present during filming.

Well, that and Dakota Fanning sounds like a robot from Tom Cruise's Scientology-otory.
Greater Trostia
24-01-2007, 22:05
She didn't even have to act like she was being raped. She had to shout and look frightened in extreme close ups, and then clever editing makes it look like she's being raped. She probably never even had to have some guy on top of her.

So it's softcore.
IL Ruffino
24-01-2007, 22:06
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IL Ruffino
24-01-2007, 22:07
dunno, they look like hash's to me: #, not £

Hehehe!

I guess you never needed to use the # on the phone, eh?
Dempublicents1
24-01-2007, 22:10
I guess the creepiest part of it is this:

Fanning's mother Joy was present during filming.

I don't find that to be creepy. In fact, I think it demonstrates that her mother was looking out for her - making sure that the directors didn't put her in a harmful situation.
Townsburgiatopia
24-01-2007, 22:13
Eh, she's probably running out of things that she can be called a celebrity for when her only real talent is screaming at the top of her lungs.

I hate her....
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 22:16
Why can't you find a better title you perverted sick troll.

Are you kidding me? That's a great title.

1) It's true. Catholics in general are against raping Dakota Fanning.
2) It's relevant to the thread topic. Catholics are protesting a movie where Dakota's character gets raped.
3) It catches people's attention.

Also I'm offended that you've called me a sick, perverted troll. It may be true, but you don't have to say it like it's a bad thing.
Greater Trostia
24-01-2007, 22:37
I don't find that to be creepy. In fact, I think it demonstrates that her mother was looking out for her - making sure that the directors didn't put her in a harmful situation.

Yeah, that's the answer I would put if I was writing an essay. In the meantime, I find it creepy.
Hydesland
24-01-2007, 22:43
Ever hear Fanning interviewed? She talks like she's posessed by the unquiet spirit of some jaded over the hill Hollywood leading lady. That's creepy.

This whole thread is creepy.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 22:47
Ever hear Fanning interviewed? She talks like she's posessed by the unquiet spirit of some jaded over the hill Hollywood leading lady. That's creepy.
IL Ruffino
24-01-2007, 22:49
Ever hear Fanning interviewed? She talks like she's posessed by the unquiet spirit of some jaded over the hill Hollywood leading lady. That's creepy.

I like creepy.
Llewdor
24-01-2007, 23:16
Hehehe!

I guess you never needed to use the # on the phone, eh?
I've often wondered how that came to be known as the pound key. Where else is # called pound?
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 23:24
I've often wondered how that came to be known as the pound key. Where else is # called pound?

down the produce isle?

it would say

Grapes $1.99/#

that's one dollar ninety-nine cents per pound.
Zarakon
24-01-2007, 23:25
Once again, I disagree with the catholic church.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 23:34
Once again, I disagree with the catholic church.

That's messed up. She may be possessed but she's still a 12 year old.
Zarakon
25-01-2007, 00:13
That's messed up. She may be possessed but she's still a 12 year old.

I had to make that joke, I'm afraid. By law.
Zarakon
25-01-2007, 00:21
Yeah, I guess that's true.

What I was surprised at is no one said it before me.
Drunk commies deleted
25-01-2007, 00:23
I had to make that joke, I'm afraid. By law.

Yeah, I guess that's true.
Byzantium2006
25-01-2007, 00:32
i think thats still pretty sick even if it is a movie. I know several rape victims, some from my family and some being my friends. i don't agree with it and i probably wont be watching it at all but it is their movie and if her and her parents think its ok then i guess it dosen't matter what i or anybody else thinks. i still think its disgusting but hey, what can you do.
Darknovae
25-01-2007, 04:00
GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

Uber time warp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

noes! :(
Czardas
25-01-2007, 04:01
dunno, they look like hash's to me: #, not £

I see a number sign and a pound symbol, but no hash.

Have you smoked it all already?
Secret aj man
25-01-2007, 04:07
I'm not religious at all, but I still find it disgusting. First and foremost, Dakota Fanning's parents need to be bludgeoned.

+1

an imaginary bludgeoning,but they deserve it.

totally exploiting the kid,whats next for the poor kid..a snuff film?

it's not like she does not have enough money(or her parents off her work) that she needs to do this.
and i dont buy the artistic/loved the script..it resonated with me bull crap.
she's to young,no matter how talented or intelligent...to grasp the implications of this "art"
and her parents don't have the right to engage her in this art because they are all intelligent or loved the script.

they more then likely,saw big dollars and said sure!

great parental skills...jerks.

i may be wrong,and i am posting without first seeing the movie,so i could be wrong,but my gut reaction is that it is wrong.

not addressing the "promoting rape" debate,it is just a movie afterall..just questioning her parents motive to sexualise their daughter,and not in a normal sense of sexualise.

i liked her in man on fire..and in war of the worlds(though all she did was scream)but she was never sexualised as far as i know.
not that i have issues with that,just in this context do i dislike it.
Demented Hamsters
25-01-2007, 04:26
You realize that in England it's called a "Hash" sign.

(That caused me do deal of confusion when I had to go to London and the subject was the use of "# files." Pound Files? No Hash Files.)
Think of the confusion in the UK if it was the other way around, and you were told the cost of something was 20 Hash?
Demented Hamsters
25-01-2007, 04:27
Why can't you find a better title you perverted sick troll.
We like DCD just the way he is, thank you very much.
Concrete and Grace
31-01-2007, 22:57
I see a number sign and a pound symbol, but no hash.

Have you smoked it all already?

CZARDAS!!! It's Lashie... with a diff name... but yeah... i'm back!

As for the movie convo's. I haven't seen it.