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## Equilibrium

Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 16:07
I have Mondays off from work. This past Monday after running some errands in the morning I sat down to watch some TV. I stumbled upon this movie called Equilibrium starring Christian Bale from American Psycho.

You know what? It was a pretty entertaining futuristic action movie. Really fun fight scenes, gunfights, and a fairly original plot (for an action movie) made it quite enjoyable, but I've never heard of the movie before. It should have been a blockbuster at the cinema, but for all I know it went straight to video (and basic cable).

I wonder how many other entertaining movies have slipped through the cracks and ended up going straight to video. Do you know of any movies like this?
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 16:12
you should start poking around looking for independent films, they don't have the budget to promote in theaters, but a lot of them are really really awesome.
Peepelonia
24-01-2007, 16:13
How do you find them? Just randomly pick up stuff at the video store?


Bliss. Look for it. Otherwise I'll just keep on about it until you do.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 16:15
you should start poking around looking for independent films, they don't have the budget to promote in theaters, but a lot of them are really really awesome.

How do you find them? Just randomly pick up stuff at the video store?
Chumblywumbly
24-01-2007, 16:17
Equilibrium was a joint UK-US venture, that’s why it’s got a whole load of British actors in it (including the excellent Sean Bean). It got a wide release over here, and did quite well, IIRC.

I find the best way to keep up with indy films is to regularly get yourself a good film magazine (is there a US equivalent to Empire?) or check a decent film website. AICN (http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/) is always a good bet.

Also, check out what’s going on at indy film festivals such as Sundance.
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 16:18
How do you find them? Just randomly pick up stuff at the video store?

probably won't find them at the video store.

I like to go to actor's sites on IMDB that I like and check the list of movies they have been in, and then at random choose one and watch it.

My video rental place will order movies in special, but you have to know the name, year and production company.
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2007, 16:18
We where viewing buddies. I watched the same broadcast you did.

I don't know that this movie really would have been a blockbuster. It had the look of two other movies made about the same time, Aeon Flux and Ultra Violet but without the slinky lead.

I caught it about halfway through so all I know was that he was not supposed to have a dog and that he was torn between being a cleric or working for the resistance.

The, what was it called? Gunkata? That was interesting to a point, but also kind of silly. The showdown with the main bad guy where he pulls a gun and the stand next to each other deflecting each others guns made sense, but some of the other stuff...I don't know.

This movie really got as fair a shake as it needs. It's destiny is cult film at best and it's on its way for that. Its popularity will be a slow cook with a very specific fan base.
Grave_n_idle
24-01-2007, 16:18
I have Mondays off from work. This past Monday after running some errands in the morning I sat down to watch some TV. I stumbled upon this movie called Equilibrium starring Christian Bale from American Psycho.

You know what? It was a pretty entertaining futuristic action movie. Really fun fight scenes, gunfights, and a fairly original plot (for an action movie) made it quite enjoyable, but I've never heard of the movie before. It should have been a blockbuster at the cinema, but for all I know it went straight to video (and basic cable).

I wonder how many other entertaining movies have slipped through the cracks and ended up going straight to video. Do you know of any movies like this?

This is why you should listen to me on movies... I've been pimping Equilibrium for (literally) years, on here. :(
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 16:20
This is why you should listen to me on movies... I've been pimping Equilibrium for (literally) years, on here. :(

And rightly so. I was convinced when I saw it some years ago... I borrowed it from a friend who had the DVD and absolutely raved about it, and bought it for myself afterwards.

So the moral is: Listen to the word on the street ;)

...especially if you know if you like the same kinds of movies that the person recommending them does. :cool:
JuNii
24-01-2007, 16:22
you should start poking around looking for independent films, they don't have the budget to promote in theaters, but a lot of them are really really awesome.

Like Interstate 60. :p
Grave_n_idle
24-01-2007, 16:30
And rightly so. I was convinced when I saw it some years ago... I borrowed it from a friend who had the DVD and absolutely raved about it, and bought it for myself afterwards.

So the moral is: Listen to the word on the street ;)

...especially if you know if you like the same kinds of movies that the person recommending them does. :cool:

Oh, indeed... it was 'word on the street' that also brought me Donnie Darko (over-rated, now - a cult secret, then), Boondock Saints and Dark City (the movie that Matrix rips so heavily).
Smunkeeville
24-01-2007, 16:32
Like Interstate 60. :p

that movie rocks!

I totally went and bought it.
New Granada
24-01-2007, 18:29
Equilibrium ranks with Battlefield earth as one of the worst feature films ever made.

IN the immortal words of Elvis Mitchell from the new york times:

If someone left ''1984,'' ''Fahrenheit 451,'' ''Brave New World,'' ''Gattaca'' and the Sylvester Stallone potboilers ''Judge Dredd'' and ''Demolition Man'' out in the sun and threw the runny glop onto a movie screen, it would still be a better picture than ''Equilibrium,'' a movie that could be stupider only if it were longer.
Pure Metal
24-01-2007, 18:32
I have Mondays off from work. This past Monday after running some errands in the morning I sat down to watch some TV. I stumbled upon this movie called Equilibrium starring Christian Bale from American Psycho.

You know what? It was a pretty entertaining futuristic action movie. Really fun fight scenes, gunfights, and a fairly original plot (for an action movie) made it quite enjoyable, but I've never heard of the movie before. It should have been a blockbuster at the cinema, but for all I know it went straight to video (and basic cable).

I wonder how many other entertaining movies have slipped through the cracks and ended up going straight to video. Do you know of any movies like this?

i saw that at the cinema and its been one of my favourite films since. its good action, but what i particularly like is the philisophical and political questions it deals with
New Granada
24-01-2007, 18:41
More from Mr Mitchell

"The true sleaziness comes after Preston beats a brace of fellow cops to their bloody, picturesque deaths to protect a puppy from execution. Just when you think ''Equilibrium'' can't sink any lower, the movie slaughters shame, too. "



I want to figure out who invented the smoke bomb "i got shot" vests for equilibrium. Notice that when people get shot, smoke bombs activate in their vests to shoot "dust" out and "look cool."

Toward the end, when the "tetragrammaton cleric" (vomit) is shooting a bunch of bad guys on a stair case, the smoke from their vests is so thick it obscures them.

My loathing for this cinematic abortion is endless.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 18:43
Equilibrium ranks with Battlefield earth as one of the worst feature films ever made.

IN the immortal words of Elvis Mitchell from the new york times:

If someone left ''1984,'' ''Fahrenheit 451,'' ''Brave New World,'' ''Gattaca'' and the Sylvester Stallone potboilers ''Judge Dredd'' and ''Demolition Man'' out in the sun and threw the runny glop onto a movie screen, it would still be a better picture than ''Equilibrium,'' a movie that could be stupider only if it were longer.

That movie critic is a moron. Equilibrium wasn't great art, but it was a neat action film. I've seen Gattaca (I found it boring), and both Judge Dredd and Demolition man. They all sucked. Equilibrium was entertaining.

The majority of the IMDb crowd seem to like it too. They rated it a 7.7 out of ten. http://imdb.com/title/tt0238380/
Pure Metal
24-01-2007, 18:44
More from Mr Mitchell

"The true sleaziness comes after Preston beats a brace of fellow cops to their bloody, picturesque deaths to protect a puppy from execution. Just when you think ''Equilibrium'' can't sink any lower, the movie slaughters shame, too. "



I want to figure out who invented the smoke bomb "i got shot" vests for equilibrium. Notice that when people get shot, smoke bombs activate in their vests to shoot "dust" out and "look cool."

Toward the end, when the "tetragrammaton cleric" (vomit) is shooting a bunch of bad guys on a stair case, the smoke from their vests is so thick it obscures them.

My loathing for this cinematic abortion is endless.

well i still like it. fuck him.
New Granada
24-01-2007, 18:47
That movie critic is a moron. Equilibrium wasn't great art, but it was a neat action film. I've seen Gattaca (I found it boring), and both Judge Dredd and Demolition man. They all sucked. Equilibrium was entertaining.

The majority of the IMDb crowd seem to like it too. They rated it a 7.7 out of ten. http://imdb.com/title/tt0238380/

The lasting condemnation and shame of IMDB's movie raters.

The faults of equilibrium and the sheer stupid high-school pretension of it annihilate any hope of it being an entertaining action movie.
Peepelonia
24-01-2007, 18:49
BlisS Bliss Bliss Bliss

I said BLISS.:D
New Granada
24-01-2007, 18:50
Did he even watch the movie? Christian Bale doesn't beat anyone up to save a puppy. He takes it away to "have it checked for possible infectious diseases". He beats the cops to death in an attempt to save several rebels from being shot. If the critic can't even be bothered to actually pay attention to what happens in the film his review is worthless.


No, you're wrong.

He kills the police (some by whacking their shotguns so that they pivot exactly 180 degrees on a vertical axis, (so fucking stupid i could spit) while they are investigating the trunk of his car, and where they discover his hidden puppy.

The critic it appears bothered to pay a good bit more attention than you did.

What is the word you used up there for a review from someone who "cant even be bothered to actually pay attention to what happens in the film?"

WORTHLESS
New Granada
24-01-2007, 18:51
Have you seen the movie? From the review you posted I'm not sure your critic did. He has two scenes confused with each other.

No, Worthless, you're wrong, read up about your mistake.
I V Stalin
24-01-2007, 18:51
Equilibrium ranks with Battlefield earth as one of the worst feature films ever made.

IN the immortal words of Elvis Mitchell from the new york times:

If someone left ''1984,'' ''Fahrenheit 451,'' ''Brave New World,'' ''Gattaca'' and the Sylvester Stallone potboilers ''Judge Dredd'' and ''Demolition Man'' out in the sun and threw the runny glop onto a movie screen, it would still be a better picture than ''Equilibrium,'' a movie that could be stupider only if it were longer.
That's rather harsh. It's not the greatest film ever, clearly, but it's watchable, if not particularly good. I'd give it 5/10 at most, mainly for Christian Bale's performance. He's the best actor around at the moment, I've not seen him put in a bad turn in any film he's been in.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 18:52
More from Mr Mitchell

"The true sleaziness comes after Preston beats a brace of fellow cops to their bloody, picturesque deaths to protect a puppy from execution. Just when you think ''Equilibrium'' can't sink any lower, the movie slaughters shame, too. "



I want to figure out who invented the smoke bomb "i got shot" vests for equilibrium. Notice that when people get shot, smoke bombs activate in their vests to shoot "dust" out and "look cool."

Toward the end, when the "tetragrammaton cleric" (vomit) is shooting a bunch of bad guys on a stair case, the smoke from their vests is so thick it obscures them.

My loathing for this cinematic abortion is endless.

Did he even watch the movie? Christian Bale doesn't beat anyone up to save a puppy. He takes it away to "have it checked for possible infectious diseases". He beats the cops to death in an attempt to save several rebels from being shot. If the critic can't even be bothered to actually pay attention to what happens in the film his review is worthless.
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 18:53
The lasting condemnation and shame of IMDB's movie raters.

The faults of equilibrium and the sheer stupid high-school pretension of it annihilate any hope of it being an entertaining action movie.

Have you seen the movie? From the review you posted I'm not sure your critic did. He has two scenes confused with each other.
Peepelonia
24-01-2007, 18:59
Bliss bliss bliss bliss:D
Nodinia
24-01-2007, 19:04
Series 7 - the contenders
Mooseica
24-01-2007, 19:12
No, Worthless, you're wrong, read up about your mistake.

Hmmm... someone perhaps needs to take a chill pill methinks. For a start name calling - particularly something as uninspired as 'Worthless' is pretty weak, and from someone who should by rights be posting decent arguments is frankly below you. (This is of course assuming you should be posting decent arguments - hopefully you do have some bsae intelligence).

Perhaps you should try:

a) Calming down, as previously suggested
b) Giving us your own opinions on the film, rather than some random critic's
c) Giving us reasons as to why you think said things about the film

Having said that I really rather like Equilibrium. It has very good performances from two of my favourite actors (Bale and Bean... hehe, their names even alliterate - they should so be in more films together). The plot and premise is fairly original quite interesting, the action scenes are cool, rad and other such modern terms of approval, it actually manages a reasonable amount of emotive stuff, and unlike Ultraviolet it wasn't a big pile of wank. :) There, not so hard is it?


And yes, the hypocritical comment at the end about Ultraviolet being a big pile of wank was intentional. Still true though :p
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2007, 19:13
No, you're wrong.

He kills the police (some by whacking their shotguns so that they pivot exactly 180 degrees on a vertical axis, (so fucking stupid i could spit) while they are investigating the trunk of his car, and where they discover his hidden puppy.

The critic it appears bothered to pay a good bit more attention than you did.

What is the word you used up there for a review from someone who "cant even be bothered to actually pay attention to what happens in the film?"

WORTHLESS
Actually, to be fair, when he shoots those cops he is about to get arrested for having a contraband puppy, I mean, the shotguns where aimed at his head, not at the puppy. When he actually saves the puppy (when I came into the movie) he does the quarantine bit.

EDIT: The shotgun thing did bother me, I ended up thinking, "what, do they mount their shotguns on their wrists for some reason?"
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 19:14
Oh, indeed... it was 'word on the street' that also brought me Donnie Darko (over-rated, now - a cult secret, then), Boondock Saints and Dark City (the movie that Matrix rips so heavily).

Absolutely true, that happened to me too with those same movies! :)

All three real entertaining movies.
Equilibrium ranks with Battlefield earth as one of the worst feature films ever made.
Pfft! Poppycock!

It's far from the worst of anything. I ended up at 8/10, and was plesantly surprised by the movie. :)
Drunk commies deleted
24-01-2007, 19:57
No, you're wrong.

He kills the police (some by whacking their shotguns so that they pivot exactly 180 degrees on a vertical axis, (so fucking stupid i could spit) while they are investigating the trunk of his car, and where they discover his hidden puppy.

The critic it appears bothered to pay a good bit more attention than you did.

What is the word you used up there for a review from someone who "cant even be bothered to actually pay attention to what happens in the film?"

WORTHLESS

I might have been in the bathroom or something during that particular scene. The only scene involving the dog that I saw was when he took that puppy away as they were destroying the rest of the dogs. Anyway, you've got one bad review for equilibrium.

Ebert and Roeper gave it two thumbs up. Opinions will vary on any movie, but I suspect your reviewer might be a move snob who simply can't appreciate an action/sci fi movie because it's not highbrow enough.
Mooseica
24-01-2007, 20:11
EDIT: The shotgun thing did bother me, I ended up thinking, "what, do they mount their shotguns on their wrists for some reason?"

Ah come on it looks cool! What else d'you want? :D It can't be realism surely, since we're talking here about a sci-fi movie featuring a guy who can, to all intents and purposes, dodge bullets.

Ebert and Roeper gave it two thumbs up. Opinions will vary on any movie, but I suspect your reviewer might be a move snob who simply can't appreciate an action/sci fi movie because it's not highbrow enouh.

A bit like the guy who does the weekly film reviews in the The Information, who only gives good ratings to a film if it's foreign, features small Indian peasant boys struggling to come to terms with some horrific tragedy/their sexuality and features an erotic scene between a still life painting of a pineapple andn emotionally repressed koala.

Yeh that reviews page is a bunch of shite.
Jolter
24-01-2007, 20:13
Indeed, the reason he saves the puppy is because the fact he has it would give away that he's feeling emotion. When they discover it, his cover's blown, and that's why he's in trouble.

Don't get me wrong, it's hardly a truely great film, but it was an enjoyable piece. It seems to me the reviewer dislikes the film because he didn't understand (or try to understand) what was happening. And that's his problem, not the film's.
Pure Metal
24-01-2007, 20:26
Indeed, the reason he saves the puppy is because the fact he has it would give away that he's feeling emotion. When they discover it, his cover's blown, and that's why he's in trouble.

Don't get me wrong, it's hardly a truely great film, but it was an enjoyable piece. It seems to me the reviewer dislikes the film because he didn't understand (or try to understand) what was happening. And that's his problem, not the film's.

quite. most of the point of the film lies in the political and philisophical extremes it conveys very well, and the fact that it makes you think (or, at least, it did for me)
the action is really just a mechanism for telling this story and engaging the viewer in this world. so a few bits don't make total sense or the gun-kata (or whatever it was called) is a bit unreal? so what? it may detract for the action, and if that's all you're watching it for then fair enough - it will make the movie worse. but if you are watching that movie just for the action then you're actually missing the point of it anyway.


i can forgive silly/unreal things like that in movies which have something else to them (in this case political/philisophical/emotive points). in other movies, like crouching tiger hidden dragon or house of the flying daggers (just two that exemplify my point), there isn't that 'something else', unless you count "being pretty to look at" as a real pro point. personally, i don't, but to each their own eh?
Mooseica
24-01-2007, 20:42
i can forgive silly/unreal things like that in movies which have something else to them (in this case political/philisophical/emotive points). in other movies, like crouching tiger hidden dragon or house of the flying daggers (just two that exemplify my point), there isn't that 'something else', unless you count "being pretty to look at" as a real pro point. personally, i don't, but to each their own eh?

I wouldn't go that far - Crouching Tiger and Flying Daggers do actually have a lot more to them than visuals and good fight scenes - although the visuals are stunning and the fight scenes jaw dropping - but on a different scale. They both focus on the emotions of the characters involved, rather than any real political or philosophical... thing. Which is the same for quite a lot of oriental films...

Oh except for Seven Swords. I've only watched it once so far, but as far as I could tell the whole point of that was big dumb fun and awesome fights featuring badass swords. Which it did very well, incidentally :D
Mooseica
24-01-2007, 20:44
For that kind of spin, they'd need to be mounted from invisible plexiglass poles at the their centers of gravity.

*Shrug* Maybe that's the way things roll in that particular distopian future. I mean come on, they supress emotion - it's just one step from there to invisible-plexiglass-mounted shotguns.
New Granada
24-01-2007, 20:45
Actually, to be fair, when he shoots those cops he is about to get arrested for having a contraband puppy, I mean, the shotguns where aimed at his head, not at the puppy. When he actually saves the puppy (when I came into the movie) he does the quarantine bit.

EDIT: The shotgun thing did bother me, I ended up thinking, "what, do they mount their shotguns on their wrists for some reason?"

For that kind of spin, they'd need to be mounted from invisible plexiglass poles at the their centers of gravity.
Mooseica
24-01-2007, 20:45
There are lots of good and decent action movies. Equilibrium, because of its sophomoric, stupid plot and nauseating garbage is not one of them.

So you've said before, but you still haven't really given us any reason or backing to these arguments.
New Granada
24-01-2007, 20:48
There are lots of good and decent action movies. Equilibrium, because of its sophomoric, stupid plot and nauseating garbage is not one of them.
Dempublicents1
24-01-2007, 20:50
I have Mondays off from work. This past Monday after running some errands in the morning I sat down to watch some TV. I stumbled upon this movie called Equilibrium starring Christian Bale from American Psycho.

You know what? It was a pretty entertaining futuristic action movie. Really fun fight scenes, gunfights, and a fairly original plot (for an action movie) made it quite enjoyable, but I've never heard of the movie before. It should have been a blockbuster at the cinema, but for all I know it went straight to video (and basic cable).

I wonder how many other entertaining movies have slipped through the cracks and ended up going straight to video. Do you know of any movies like this?

I'm pretty sure it *was* in the theatre, but only for a short time. I learned of it through my fiance and friends, who are big fans of it.

Lots of really good movies end up that way. And lots of crappy movies are blockbusters at the theatre. Makes me sad.
Dempublicents1
24-01-2007, 20:53
This is why you should listen to me on movies... I've been pimping Equilibrium for (literally) years, on here. :(

One of these days, I'm really going to have to meet you. I think you'd fit in perfectly in my circle of friends. =)
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2007, 20:53
Ah come on it looks cool! What else d'you want? :D It can't be realism surely, since we're talking here about a sci-fi movie featuring a guy who can, to all intents and purposes, dodge bullets.
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I can suspend disbelief (not enough to supress a slight giggle when he does the martial arts pose with the two pistols back to back, though-but again, I came in late) if the film works with me. It would have been cooler looking if he had knocked the shotguns out of their hands and caught them by the grips on the way down instead of the really unnatural looking rotation that they settled on. I mean, they spun in place on an axis.

I've been refraining from commenting on the story since I didn't see it from the beginning. And I'll grant some of the less silly gun battle things where kinda cool in that 'post-Matrix hip Hong Kong' action style that I'm glad the sheen is wearing off of (not that I don't like it, when it's appropriate...which is about a third of the time it's being used these days...) But sometimes, it was to laugh.
Pure Metal
24-01-2007, 21:01
I wouldn't go that far - Crouching Tiger and Flying Daggers do actually have a lot more to them than visuals and good fight scenes - although the visuals are stunning and the fight scenes jaw dropping - but on a different scale. They both focus on the emotions of the characters involved, rather than any real political or philosophical... thing. Which is the same for quite a lot of oriental films...

Oh except for Seven Swords. I've only watched it once so far, but as far as I could tell the whole point of that was big dumb fun and awesome fights featuring badass swords. Which it did very well, incidentally :D

i agree that those movies were indeed very beautiful, and did have more going for them than i let on in my previous post, but i particularly enjoy philisophical or politcally engaging films. its not black and white, but my point that these are the criteria by which Equilibrium should be judged stands.
its not one of the best movies ever, no, but it is engaging to me in that respect and very enjoyable.

if we're talking about one-dimensional action movies..... kill bill *cough*
Gui de Lusignan
24-01-2007, 21:11
I have Mondays off from work. This past Monday after running some errands in the morning I sat down to watch some TV. I stumbled upon this movie called Equilibrium starring Christian Bale from American Psycho.

You know what? It was a pretty entertaining futuristic action movie. Really fun fight scenes, gunfights, and a fairly original plot (for an action movie) made it quite enjoyable, but I've never heard of the movie before. It should have been a blockbuster at the cinema, but for all I know it went straight to video (and basic cable).

I wonder how many other entertaining movies have slipped through the cracks and ended up going straight to video. Do you know of any movies like this?

Equilibrium was a pretty good movie... I saw it when it first came out. And While the story though simple was well put together and REALTIVLY orginal, the whole feel of the movie was that of something aeon flux or ultraviolet might leave you with (a little rushed, although those movies were awful compared to this)

I think the only reason it is really unknown is because it came out at the same time the Matrix2 was out, and thus was seen as a parody of it.
Mooseica
24-01-2007, 21:13
i agree that those movies were indeed very beautiful, and did have more going for them than i let on in my previous post, but i particularly enjoy philisophical or politcally engaging films. its not black and white, but my point that these are the criteria by which Equilibrium should be judged stands.
its not one of the best movies ever, no, but it is engaging to me in that respect and very enjoyable.

if we're talking about one-dimensional action movies..... kill bill *cough*

:) To each their own my dear sir. Of course, I couldn't expect you to agree with me, I do live in Pompey after all :p

And no it isn't one of the best films ever but it's enjoyable and that's what's really important.

Oh and Kill Bill Vol. 2 is waaaaaaaaay better than Vol. 1. It even required/inspired a little thought from time to time.
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 21:19
A bit like the guy who does the weekly film reviews in the The Information, who only gives good ratings to a film if it's foreign, features small Indian peasant boys struggling to come to terms with some horrific tragedy/their sexuality and features an erotic scene between a still life painting of a pineapple andn emotionally repressed koala.
:D :fluffle:
Poor Koala... At least it isn't armed ;)

I think the only reason it is really unknown is because it came out at the same time the Matrix2 was out, and thus was seen as a parody of it.

...Matrix Revolutions was a parody of the Matrix, with only one good scene. Talk about sucky movie - Equilibrium is a frickin' Mona Lisa in comparison.
Grave_n_idle
24-01-2007, 21:24
One of these days, I'm really going to have to meet you. I think you'd fit in perfectly in my circle of friends. =)

Yeah, I always thought you were pretty cool. :)

The disgusting thing is - I only live round the corner from you, I seem to recall. :(
Nodinia
24-01-2007, 21:29
As it may have been lost in the haze of venom normally reserved for M.E. threads, "Series 7 - the contenders" is a fine example of low budget, good effort from the states.
Grave_n_idle
24-01-2007, 21:30
I should also take the opportunity to recommend "V For Vendetta" (just in case, by some miracle, DCD hasn't seen it). Oh - and "A Scanner Darkly" is genius.
Gravlen
24-01-2007, 21:31
Oh and Kill Bill Vol. 2 is waaaaaaaaay better than Vol. 1. It even required/inspired a little thought from time to time.

I can't help but see Kill Bill as one movie... And a great one at that :)

Same as Lord of the Rings.
Dempublicents1
24-01-2007, 21:37
I should also take the opportunity to recommend "V For Vendetta" (just in case, by some miracle, DCD hasn't seen it). Oh - and "A Scanner Darkly" is genius.

I have not had the chance to see "A Scanner Darkly" yet. =( All the copies at the video store were checked out last time I went.

Personally, I would also recommend reading "V for Vendetta." I suppose it is a bit outdated, and there were some changes made in the movie that I really liked, but it is a good read nonetheless.

And yes, in the scheme of things, you really do live right around the corner - and I am sure you make it into Atlanta occasionally. Hence the reason it is a shame we have not yet met. ((I hate it when my apostrophe key stops working - I like contractions!!))
Infinite Revolution
24-01-2007, 21:48
I have Mondays off from work. This past Monday after running some errands in the morning I sat down to watch some TV. I stumbled upon this movie called Equilibrium starring Christian Bale from American Psycho.

You know what? It was a pretty entertaining futuristic action movie. Really fun fight scenes, gunfights, and a fairly original plot (for an action movie) made it quite enjoyable, but I've never heard of the movie before. It should have been a blockbuster at the cinema, but for all I know it went straight to video (and basic cable).

I wonder how many other entertaining movies have slipped through the cracks and ended up going straight to video. Do you know of any movies like this?

yeh i saw that recently and had the exact same thought. although all my friends had heard of it. i tend to be fairly clueless about films though cuz i really couldn't care less about them. who's in them, who's directing, how many layers of meaning it has, funny camera angles, etc., just doesn't excite me the way it seems to everyone else.
Grave_n_idle
24-01-2007, 22:00
I have not had the chance to see "A Scanner Darkly" yet. =( All the copies at the video store were checked out last time I went.

Personally, I would also recommend reading "V for Vendetta." I suppose it is a bit outdated, and there were some changes made in the movie that I really liked, but it is a good read nonetheless.

And yes, in the scheme of things, you really do live right around the corner - and I am sure you make it into Atlanta occasionally. Hence the reason it is a shame we have not yet met. ((I hate it when my apostrophe key stops working - I like contractions!!))

"Scanner" is that good. Probably the most accurate interpretation of a Dick work, and with some truely awesome work by several of the principles. I mean - I even liked Winona in this one... but Robert Downey Jr steals the show. There are two main themes (although most internet discussion completely misses one), that will leave you thinking long after the reel stops.

I've been looking for "V" to read... I seem to recall you were another Gaiman fan, so you can be trusted. :)

I don't really touch Atlanta unless I have to... couple of times a year, maybe. I did recently find out there is an Indian restaurant in Athens, though... that might become somewhere I might go. :) (If I can find parking. Bah.)