NationStates Jolt Archive


How long will it take to hack you?

Sel Appa
21-01-2007, 20:03
This (http://www.lockdown.co.uk/?pg=combi&s=articles) little page contains charts about how long it will take to hack certain types of passwords. It gives several computer types, but the most likely is Class D.

Enjoy your password-changing frenzy...but in all honesty, who is going to hack your NationStates account?
The Mindset
21-01-2007, 20:07
23 years.
New Stalinberg
21-01-2007, 20:13
13 minutes
Kyronea
21-01-2007, 20:13
For my password, it would take a supercomputer 83 1/2 days to figure it out. In the meantime I'd more than likely discover someone was trying to hack me and I'd change it, thus resetting the process. So long as I did that every eighty-three days, assuming they never give up, I'm safe.
Dzanjir
21-01-2007, 20:15
Considering that I use 4096-bit encryption for all of my passwords and make sure they are combinations of 15 uppercase and lowercase, numbers, spaces, and common symbols each, which I change once a month, without writing anything down... I'm probably in the "instant" category.
Dinaverg
21-01-2007, 20:40
You'd like to know, wouldn't you?

Long enough.
Vetalia
21-01-2007, 20:41
83.5 days. OSU mandates that our passwords use the 96-character combination for our accounts on their computer network. I extended this to my own passwords, so all of my information takes at least that long to crack.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
21-01-2007, 20:55
253 days for "class D". NS has one of my shorter and simpler passwords.
Lord Grey II
21-01-2007, 21:03
I had no idea it would take that long to hack my password. It's only 9 characters long with upper and lower case letters and contains numbers. :D
United Chicken Kleptos
21-01-2007, 21:10
Less than 46 seconds. Shit.
Compulsive Depression
21-01-2007, 21:16
That does assume the cracker has unlimited bandwidth to the machine it's trying to crack the password on, so I don't think anyone has to worry about their Jolt account; the server will have collapsed under the traffic before it even gets close to being compromised. It's a security feature ;)
Damor
21-01-2007, 21:17
This (http://www.lockdown.co.uk/?pg=combi&s=articles) little page contains charts about how long it will take to hack certain types of passwords. It gives several computer types, but the most likely is Class D.

Enjoy your password-changing frenzy...but in all honesty, who is going to hack your NationStates account?Meh, my nationstates account has a low priority password. For more important things I have 12-16 character passwords including letters, numbers and case; and they're fairly random at that (not words or sequences).
And since they're not even included in the table, I'd say it would possibly take rather long to crack them.
Desperate Measures
21-01-2007, 21:22
How hot is the hacker? It could be mere minutes or years of wooing.
Andaluciae
21-01-2007, 21:23
Most of my relevant passwords, which anyone would seek to hack, are a mix of upper and lower case letters, plus numbers. They are all seven characters long.

NS is not one of the lucky, safe ones. But why would anyone hack my NSG stuff?
Zarakon
21-01-2007, 21:30
My password type doesn't even show up. :(
Upper Botswavia
21-01-2007, 21:32
Apparently a class D attack is going to take almost 5,000,000 years to find my password. And a supercomputer with nothing better to do would take about 53,185 years. And slightly less than 698 years for the fastest computer on earth. I guess I will stop worrying about it for another 500 years or so.
UpwardThrust
21-01-2007, 21:32
These charts are at least 20 percent higher then what we have been able to see in reality even as a realistic maximum

Probably a growth of computing power though ...

Note to remember all this is a brute force attack time ... dictionary words (even 1337ified) cut these times in half or better. Also note operating system hash's can be cracked through rambow tables or other methods depending on the information available to the attacker so these times are the times of the most in-elegant worst case scenario not actually how safe you really are

On another note 90 days is the diminishing return mark ... most hackers wont go beyond that (standard password change times so ....)
UpwardThrust
21-01-2007, 21:34
Mine

22,875 Years 2,287 Years 229 Years 23 Years 2¼ Years 83½ Days


so about 23 years for an average and 2.25 for someone with a few and or some zombies
The Tribes Of Longton
21-01-2007, 21:39
Quite a long time on any of those scales.
Kryozerkia
21-01-2007, 21:42
Mine would take some time, as it is not only letters, but it's long and it is outside of the dictionary realm because it's transliterated from one language into English.
Langenbruck
21-01-2007, 21:57
Hm, a class F-computer would need around 25 Mio. years to break my password. A class A-computer would need 2,5 Billion years. Well, I think this sould be sufficent. ;)
Johnny B Goode
21-01-2007, 22:04
This (http://www.lockdown.co.uk/?pg=combi&s=articles) little page contains charts about how long it will take to hack certain types of passwords. It gives several computer types, but the most likely is Class D.

Enjoy your password-changing frenzy...but in all honesty, who is going to hack your NationStates account?

Apparently, it would take 6.25 days for a fast PC to hack my NS account.
Dinaverg
21-01-2007, 22:11
Non English dictionary searches are not exactly un heard of ... either way if it is translated into English it will be in that dictionary.

*cough (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transliterate)cough* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration)
Damor
21-01-2007, 22:12
My password type doesn't even show up. :(128 bit binary string?
UpwardThrust
21-01-2007, 22:12
Mine would take some time, as it is not only letters, but it's long and it is outside of the dictionary realm because it's transliterated from one language into English.

Non English dictionary searches are not exactly un heard of ... either way if it is translated into English it will be in that dictionary.
UpwardThrust
21-01-2007, 22:15
Apparently, it would take 6.25 days for a fast PC to hack my NS account.

There are all kinds of complications to that scenario though things like attempt speed and time-outs and account restrictions

Its all great to say a computer pushing random passwords to match a hash on its local drive can do it in 6.25 days. But considering it has to do it over the internet ... like adds a factor of 1000 to it
Not to mention max authentication attempts

I dont know if jolt has one set but lets say it makes you wait an hour every time your password is entered wrong 5 times ...


That adds a lot of time to the millions of attempts it has to make
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-01-2007, 22:25
NS is not one of the lucky, safe ones. But why would anyone hack my NSG stuff?
To break into your nation and turn it into an Communist Utopia, overthrowing your fictional bourgeois oppression.
Harlesburg
21-01-2007, 22:30
Mine might be 9 days but then again it's too early in the morning to understand all that gobbledy gook.
UpwardThrust
21-01-2007, 22:44
*cough (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transliterate)cough* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration)

Misreading on my part I read "Transliterated" as translated sorry

BTW this time warp thing is starting to mess me up lol it was amusing for awhile ...
Sel Appa
21-01-2007, 22:47
Misreading on my part I read "Transliterated" as translated sorry

BTW this time warp thing is starting to mess me up lol it was amusing for awhile ...

Yeah, why don't they just put entire forums on one server so this can't happen...Hell, give NS its own server and everyone else use the other one. :)
UpwardThrust
21-01-2007, 22:54
Yeah, why don't they just put entire forums on one server so this can't happen...Hell, give NS its own server and everyone else use the other one. :)

Could be a few reasons depending on the software they use and its ability to coordinate such as separate servers in that pattern. They may also be doing a physical separation or a network separation based on load as well, I don't know our traffic pattern so I could not tell you but they may have their reasoning ...
Koramerica
21-01-2007, 23:02
Why would anyone want to hack an account in NS for anyway?
Damor
21-01-2007, 23:03
Why would anyone want to hack an account in NS for anyway?Why would anyone want to vandalise a busstop?
Some people are immature and think it's fun to mess up and destroy things..
Sel Appa
21-01-2007, 23:14
Why would anyone want to vandalise a busstop?
Some people are immature and think it's fun to mess up and destroy things..

But vandalizing busstops is fun!
Confoozled dolphins
21-01-2007, 23:21
0_0' why are you people answering these questions?

don't trust anyone!
The Infinite Dunes
21-01-2007, 23:37
Hm... 2 days for my yahoo email account for which I use a pattern-based password. eg 0898khjh

I just find pattern based passwords easy to remember and are normally overlooked by password cracking programs.

For the most important thing I can access on the internet... I have no idea. But definately a long time.

It requires you to input a 10 digit username (effectively 4 digit :rolleyes:). It then requires you to enter 3 random digits of a 4 digit pin number and then 3 random characters of a 6-20 character password which must contain at least one letter, one number, and one symbol (meaning a total character set of 70). If three incorrect attempts are made to access an account then any account number used in those attempts will be blocked from online access for 24 hours. If continued attempts are made to hack an account then that account permanently blocked until the account holder brings two froms of ID to a local bank branch and requests the account be reopenned.

All in all I pretty damn confident no thieving bastard is going to get their hands on my money.
MrWho
21-01-2007, 23:52
It would take about 9 years to figure out my password for my NS account.
Swilatia
22-01-2007, 00:01
doesent show how long it will take for 9 characters alpha-numeric 1 case.
Koramerica
22-01-2007, 00:14
0_0' why are you people answering these questions?

don't trust anyone!


If you noticed I answered there question with a question
IL Ruffino
22-01-2007, 00:27
I don't understand this..
Sel Appa
22-01-2007, 01:26
Hm... 2 days for my yahoo email account for which I use a pattern-based password. eg 0898khjh

I just find pattern based passwords easy to remember and are normally overlooked by password cracking programs.

For the most important thing I can access on the internet... I have no idea. But definately a long time.

It requires you to input a 10 digit username (effectively 4 digit :rolleyes:). It then requires you to enter 3 random digits of a 4 digit pin number and then 3 random characters of a 6-20 character password which must contain at least one letter, one number, and one symbol (meaning a total character set of 70). If three incorrect attempts are made to access an account then any account number used in those attempts will be blocked from online access for 24 hours. If continued attempts are made to hack an account then that account permanently blocked until the account holder brings two froms of ID to a local bank branch and requests the account be reopenned.

All in all I pretty damn confident no thieving bastard is going to get their hands on my money.

not for long :P
Chietuste
22-01-2007, 01:34
This (http://www.lockdown.co.uk/?pg=combi&s=articles) little page contains charts about how long it will take to hack certain types of passwords. It gives several computer types, but the most likely is Class D.

Enjoy your password-changing frenzy...but in all honesty, who is going to hack your NationStates account?

Mine's off the chart.
Siap
22-01-2007, 01:44
EDIT: Given a Class D attack:

NS account- instant

Email-22 hours

Uni account-87 days

First AIM password I made in 4th grade and rarely use (rough approximation)-1,953,497,088 years.

By the time all of the weapons grade on Earth had decomposed, they'd still be working on my password. YES!
Sel Appa
22-01-2007, 01:52
Given a Class A attack:

NS account- 2.25 hours

Email-2.5 years

Uni account-22,875 years

First AIM password I made in 4th grade and rarely use (rough approximation)- 6.46*10^15 years.

For perspective, the universe is roughly 1.37*10^10 years old according to the big bang theory.

You msut have important contacts...
Siap
22-01-2007, 01:56
You msut have important contacts...

I've always been a little neurotic. I edited my post for a class D attack.
The Infinite Dunes
22-01-2007, 02:47
not for long :PThe thing with pattern based passwords is that most sequences can be thought of as pattern.

The numbers 1, 6, 8, 9 don't seem to be in much of a pattern on the main part of keyboard. Yet 1896, 1698, 1968, 1986, 1869 are 1689 are all easily reconisable patterns on the keypad. Infact every combination of those numbers could be identified as a patten.

)q5534h is a pattern. Jkk, is a pattern. jKld is a pattern. ciaeif is a pattern to me. uv,eox/q is another pattern. Nearly any sequence can be identified as a pattern. By birthyear, 1985, can be coded as the, ajie, 4*/8, 0652, 2+96, alkg, r][i, nef, fen, eyn, nye, vsrz... I could keep going... but I think I may have proved my point.
UpwardThrust
22-01-2007, 19:36
Mine's off the chart.

What password are you using that uses more then letters (upper and lower case) numbers and symbols? or are you talking in just length if so most of mine are too but there are other longer charts
Angry Fruit Salad
22-01-2007, 19:47
253 days...wow. I had no bloody clue my passwords were that strong.