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I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.

I think it's related to the same mindset I posted about in the suburban despair thread, only taken from the opposite side of the coin. Some kind of desperate need to think that you and your select group have "the knowledge." Both sides are creepy, and are best kept at a distance, IMO.

Most people can't cope with the concept of an empty, pointless, utterly uncaring universe. They see only the emptiness and the desolation, and have to imagine something wiser and stronger than themselves to shield them from the barren and pitiless truth.

For those of us strong enough to walk on our own, without crutch or aid, there is a stark beauty in a universe empty and purposeless. For it is that emptiness that the mind and hand of man will fill, and that purpose that we will impose as we choose.

What the mind of man can conceive, the hand of man can acheive.

Most people can't cope with the concept of an empty, pointless, utterly uncaring universe. They see only the emptiness and the desolation, and have to imagine something wiser and stronger than themselves to shield them from the barren and pitiless truth.

For those of us strong enough to walk on our own, without crutch or aid, there is a stark beauty in a universe empty and purposeless. For it is that emptiness that the mind and hand of man will fill, and that purpose that we will impose as we choose.

What the mind of man can conceive, the hand of man can acheive.

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.

I think it's related to the same mindset I posted about in the suburban despair thread, only taken from the opposite side of the coin. Some kind of desperate need to think that you and your select group have "the knowledge." Both sides are creepy, and are best kept at a distance, IMO.

I think it had more strength when education was far more Western centred - Theres us and the savages, so if it wasnt us (and it couldnt be them) it had to be Atlanteans/Aliens/Lizard people. I think theres a bit more credit given to the natives these days, generally.

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.

I think it's related to the same mindset I posted about in the suburban despair thread, only taken from the opposite side of the coin. Some kind of desperate need to think that you and your select group have "the knowledge." Both sides are creepy, and are best kept at a distance, IMO.

dumb people misleading even dumber people...with the answer to most of their questions well known, many people still insist on bizarre explanations despite massive evidence to the contrary...there are charlatans such as the Chariots of Gods author Erich von Daniken who take advantage of this and write outrageous crap knowing they will make a buck selling books to idiots.

I think it had more strength when education was far more Western centred - Theres us and the savages, so if it wasnt us (and it couldnt be them) it had to be Atlanteans/Aliens/Lizard people. I think theres a bit more credit given to the natives these days, generally.

Stole the words right out of my mouth.

I was reading this book called "Lies my teachers told me" and it goes over American history books and shows how they portray Natives as brutal people that were only saved by the wise civilization of the Europeans, where as we know from research and archaeology, that if it wasn't for Natives there'd be no USA right now.

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.

I think it's related to the same mindset I posted about in the suburban despair thread, only taken from the opposite side of the coin. Some kind of desperate need to think that you and your select group have "the knowledge." Both sides are creepy, and are best kept at a distance, IMO.

just as a piece of trivia, apparently the pyramids are aligned with each other as a giant "star map", as a kind of astronomical/zodiacal calendar or something to that effect, so the implication of aliens helping them to build it is fun to think about although 99% unlikely.

That said I dont think its depressing that we may be the only ones in the universe. Its even better in some ways in that we can claim to be the most advanced lifeforms in existence.

Its a statistical improbability though that there definately is no other life out there. Although empirical evidence may eventually suggest otherwise and the margin of error is large but nonetheless, the assumption that life may be out there is quite favourable.

Now whether aliens have visited this planet is another question altogether, I think maybe they have but if so theyre hardly going to disclose their existence to the world, what with the nuts out there who will blow stuff up and in light of the prime directive.

Ive often thought the same about time travellers, they may be watching us but on another dimensional plane within our own time yet not in the same spatial realm, so that they cant create paradoxes.

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it’s the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it’s the result of extra terrestrial intervention.
Don’t listen to a word he says! He’s part of a conspiracy by the government to cover up extraterrestrial intervention and discredit those who know the truth!!!!

Or am I?

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.

Well, that's utterly ridiculous. Next some one is going to be saying that NSG was made by aliens.
Psst! The mods... all aliens. Max Barry is their overmind.

Well, that's utterly ridiculous. Next some one is going to be saying that NSG was made by aliens.
Psst! The mods... all aliens. Max Barry is their overmind.

No, no. Aliens just post here.

Some kind of desperate need to think that you and your select group have "the knowledge." Both sides are creepy, and are best kept at a distance, IMO.
It's just like political factions, isn't it?

aliens? oh yes, i've never given up hope that there's intelligent life somewhere. i'd really love to flee the planet...

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.Well, obviously our ancestors from ancient times were retarded buttmonkeys that couldn't put one stone on top of another, and we with our zillion times larger brain can't figure out how they've build those monuments, therefor it must have been aliens.
(Really, it's depressing how little credit our ancestors get for solving the problems of their time.)

just as a piece of trivia, apparently the pyramids are aligned with each other as a giant "star map", as a kind of astronomical/zodiacal calendar or something to that effect, so the implication of aliens helping them to build it is fun to think about although 99% unlikely.It's not hard to find a collection of landmarks in any major city that happens to resemble a constellation.
If you look at where those pyramids where build, there really wasn't another way to put them. So unless the plateau there was preordained to have constellation-resembling monuments build upon them, I'd say it's a coincidence with a much greater certainty than 99%.

Well, obviously our ancestors from ancient times were retarded buttmonkeys that couldn't put one stone on top of another, and we with our zillion times larger brain can't figure out how they've build those monuments, therefor it must have been aliens.
(Really, it's depressing how little credit our ancestors get for solving the problems of their time.)

It's not hard to find a collection of landmarks in any major city that happens to resemble a constellation.
If you look at where those pyramids where build, there really wasn't another way to put them. So unless the plateau there was preordained to have constellation-resembling monuments build upon them, I'd say it's a coincidence with a much greater certainty than 99%.

I don't see a reason why the Egyptians couldn't have designed the Pyramids to coincide with constellations.

After all, the stars were quite important to all ancient cultures. I see no reason why that can't be reflected in their architecture.

If we reverse the Butterfly Effect, its possible that one of the many space pebbles that formed the Tunguska meteor were nudged by the wake of a passing starship, thus eventually over millions of years creating the giant rock and putting it on a collision course with Earth.

But yeah, everything else, I agree, definately humans.

I don't see a reason why the Egyptians couldn't have designed the Pyramids to coincide with constellations.

After all, the stars were quite important to all ancient cultures. I see no reason why that can't be reflected in their architecture.I think they'd have made a better job of it if they had planned it. The fit isn't all that good, and there's no indication or mention of it anywhere else.
To me it's clearly an instance of the aneristic principle; finding patterns where there aren't any. It's one of the things people do best, so it wouldn't be surprising.

I find it both creepy and comical that no matter what the historical event, whether it's the construciton of the pyramids, the statues on Easter Island, Atlantis (fictional, but still relevant), the Tunguska incident, etc. etc. There are people who will say that it's the result of extra terrestrial intervention.

I think it's related to the same mindset I posted about in the suburban despair thread, only taken from the opposite side of the coin. Some kind of desperate need to think that you and your select group have "the knowledge." Both sides are creepy, and are best kept at a distance, IMO.


I think the PC term is "undocumented workers"..... So they used mexicans to build the pyramids....big deal, there were no labor laws at that time. :)

In Soviet Russia, aliens have conspiracy theories about you!

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That said I dont think its depressing that we may be the only ones in the universe. Its even better in some ways in that we can claim to be the most advanced lifeforms in existence.

Its a statistical improbability though that there definately is no other life out there. Although empirical evidence may eventually suggest otherwise and the margin of error is large but nonetheless, the assumption that life may be out there is quite favourable.

Now whether aliens have visited this planet is another question altogether, I think maybe they have but if so theyre hardly going to disclose their existence to the world, what with the nuts out there who will blow stuff up and in light of the prime directive.
*snip*

You've contradicted yourself...I think. You say it's improbable that other life exists, and then say the assumption is "quite favourable", using those vestigial Norman U's that you erstwhile Empire folk are so adamant about.

In fact, the population of the universe, according to the one true expert on the subject, Douglas Adams, is zero.

It's known that there are an infinite amount of stars in the universe, and therefore and infinite number of planets in potential orbit around them. However, only a finite number of those are inhabited with intelligent life. Any finite number divided by infinity is as close to zero as makes no odds, so the population of the universe can be said to be zero. It can then be said that anyone you do happen to meet from time to time is merely the product of a deranged imagination.

Most people can't cope with the concept of an empty, pointless, utterly uncaring universe. They see only the emptiness and the desolation, and have to imagine something wiser and stronger than themselves to shield them from the barren and pitiless truth.

For those of us strong enough to walk on our own, without crutch or aid, there is a stark beauty in a universe empty and purposeless. For it is that emptiness that the mind and hand of man will fill, and that purpose that we will impose as we choose.

What the mind of man can conceive, the hand of man can acheive.

You should start a religion.

You've contradicted yourself...I think. You say it's improbable that other life exists, and then say the assumption is "quite favourable", using those vestigial Norman U's that you erstwhile Empire folk are so adamant about.

In fact, the population of the universe, according to the one true expert on the subject, Douglas Adams, is zero.

It's known that there are an infinite amount of stars in the universe, and therefore and infinite number of planets in potential orbit around them. However, only a finite number of those are inhabited with intelligent life. Any finite number divided by infinity is as close to zero as makes no odds, so the population of the universe can be said to be zero. It can then be said that anyone you do happen to meet from time to time is merely the product of a deranged imagination.

If there's an infinite number of planets, there is an infinite number of potential places where life could evolve, therefore there is an infinite number of inhabited planets, thus the population of the universe is infinite. Douglas Adams fails.

Why do we need aliens? Real people are weird enough.

Don’t listen to a word he says! He’s part of a conspiracy by the government to cover up extraterrestrial intervention and discredit those who know the truth!!!!

Or am I?
Pfft! There is no conspiracy, and only madmen and morons thing there is one. None of the posters here are madmen or morons, so nobody here would believe in conspiracies...

Fnord

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.