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It's the American Way.


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Wet herring in his desk. Every day that he steals your stuff.

Hey guts,

I need advice on how to deal with persistent bastards. There's this guy in english class who kept stealing my stuff, when I first found out and stopped him he got pissed at me for defending my property. I tried to ovoid confrontation and fighting and put up with his crap for a while in hopes he'd come to think that I'm not worth the effort but he still persists. How do I get him to stop without getting in trouble? Remember this is America, the laws are stupid and unfair so thats why I ask for aid.

To all who wish to be helpful thank you! :)

To all who are keen on twisting my words to make me seem like something I'm not...(note that being blamed or called something I'm not is one of my top pet peeves) GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!! :upyours:

There's only one thing punks like that understand: squealing. You've got to squeal to every teacher and every grown-up you can find. Posting on the forum was a good start.

Go to the Dean/Principal, whatever. Tell them to stop him or your parents will call the cops. School Admins HATE the idea of students being dragged off in handcuffs.

next time you catch him red handed, stab him in the hand with a compass to make the metaphor real.

p.s. this is bad advice, don't listen to me, i nearly got in a lot of trouble for doing something similar.

Steal his cat and leave a ransom note.

I tried to ovoid confrontation and fighting and put up with his crap for a while in hopes he'd come to think that I'm not worth the effort but he still persists.

Stand up for yourself.

What is worse? A bit of confrontation or getting fucked over by idiots?

While I think the "upyours" smilie was completely unnecessary, I must say I would go for the calm confrontation first before doing anything else. Tell him as evenly as possible that you do not apreciate him stealing your stuff. Is there any way that you can bring your stuff with you everywhere so that he has nothing to steal?

The smart way would be to catch him in the act with photographic evidence and bring that to the school admins. Threaten police action.

The not so smart, but viciously satisfying way would be to coat the things he likes to steal with a topical (contact based) poison. People tend to stop stealing stuff when they drop over dead.

I tried to ovoid confrontation and fighting and put up with his crap for a while in hopes he'd come to think that I'm not worth the effort but he still persists.

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. Tell him NO. Tell the teacher. Tell the police if need be. If you want to handle it yourself the only real way is by confrontation.

Hey guts,

I need advice on how to deal with persistent bastards. There's this guy in english class who kept stealing my stuff, when I first found out and stopped him he got pissed at me for defending my property. I tried to ovoid confrontation and fighting and put up with his crap for a while in hopes he'd come to think that I'm not worth the effort but he still persists. How do I get him to stop without getting in trouble? Remember this is America, the laws are stupid and unfair so thats why I ask for aid.

To all who wish to be helpful thank you! :)

To all who are keen on twisting my words to make me seem like something I'm not...(note that being blamed or called something I'm not is one of my top pet peeves) GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!! :upyours:

I'd kick his ass then tell the dean. Hit him where it hurts twice over.

There's only one thing punks like that understand:...

...a punch up the bracket.

As much as I'm more or less a pacifist and am completely not proud of losing it like I did, but my situation did in fact improve when I threw a guy who was bugging the crap out of me and friend while the teacher sat by and did nothing against a wall and told him to knock that shit off. I wouldn't do it again, though.

But yeah, doing nothing will yield nothing.

The one thing that stopped the bullying and being picked on that I underwent when I was at school was a fistfight. I guess, technically, I lost that fight, coming away with a black eye, but I had made my point and that was the end of me getting bullied. That was back in the 80's though - a more innocent age.

I agree with Kat, I would go to whomever you think will listen and help you and tell them, if they don't do anything tell someone else, if nothing else helps call the news and tell them that you are being harassed and the school isn't doing a damn thing about it.

I don't know, Lizasauria... maybe you deserve to have bad things to happen to you? Maybe...

There is only one way to deal with bullies; stand up to them. It doesn't matter how, just let them know that you will not stand for their behavior. Tell the teacher, the police, take his stuff and dump in the nearest biohazard container. He'll keep it up as long as he thinks he can get away with it.

There is always the off-chance that he'll retaliate, but that's remote. Just make sure that the authorities are aware and that he knows that if there is retaliation, his ass will be in jail before the day is over.

My daughter (5'3", barely 100 pounds) grabbed one bully by his hair (on the head, thank you) and rammed him head first into the side of a dumpster, he never bothered her again.

Confrontation is the only way to deal with these people (and I use the word loosely).

If it's obvious the school's administration won't listen, go to the cops. The last thing the school wants is for the cops to come during broad daylight to escort a student out in cuffs. It makes the school look bad because they had been unable to deal with the problem.

Of course, you could just go over their head entirely and straight to the cops. Theft is a matter that has laws at all government levels covering it, and it can be considered outside of school jurisdiction.

Don't take crap from anyone. Not even the school.

Just go straight to the cops and tell them what has been happening.

It now only sounds like theft but harassment too; both crimes punishable by law.

Or you could do what I did in high school, take on three guys at one, punch one in the face and watch all three cower in fear because they're all bigger than you and you gave one of them a bloody nose, during school hours in the classroom while the teacher was away.

Wait until he's alone in the restroom. Then pee all over his crotch. Run from the bathroom and tell everybody that he peed his pants. No one will believe him when he says you did it.

next time you catch him red handed, stab him in the hand with a compass to make the metaphor real.

p.s. this is bad advice, don't listen to me, i nearly got in a lot of trouble for doing something similar.

I did catch him red handed and every time I do he gives me a freaky glare. It creeps me out. :(

I don't know, Lizasauria... maybe you deserve to have bad things to happen to you? Maybe...

What makes you say that?

I did catch him red handed and every time I do he gives me a freaky glare. It creeps me out. :(

But by not doing anything, you are effectively telling him "Please continue. Keep stealing my stuff"

There's only one way to deal with this, and that's by bringing it to a head. Whether by killing him or bringing in the authorities is your choice, but you cannot choose to do nothing.

But by not doing anything, you are effectively telling him "Please continue. Keep stealing my stuff"

There's only one way to deal with this, and that's by bringing it to a head. Whether by killing him or bringing in the authorities is your choice, but you cannot choose to do nothing.

Fine I will, but those who squeal, whether they're on the right side or not tend to get it worse in America. :confused: :(

The one thing that stopped the bullying and being picked on that I underwent when I was at school was a fistfight. I guess, technically, I lost that fight, coming away with a black eye, but I had made my point and that was the end of me getting bullied. That was back in the 80's though - a more innocent age.

Yeah, not a good idea.

People these days tend to bring a large group of friends along to conduct revenge beatings. When you're unpopular enough to be picked on, this is bad (speaking from experience.)

Wait until he's alone in the restroom. Then pee all over his crotch. Run from the bathroom and tell everybody that he peed his pants. No one will believe him when he says you did it.

LOL. That's so wrong, but it's just crazy enough to work. :)

Hey guts,

I need advice on how to deal with persistent bastards. There's this guy in english class who kept stealing my stuff, when I first found out and stopped him he got pissed at me for defending my property. I tried to ovoid confrontation and fighting and put up with his crap for a while in hopes he'd come to think that I'm not worth the effort but he still persists. How do I get him to stop without getting in trouble? Remember this is America, the laws are stupid and unfair so thats why I ask for aid.

To all who wish to be helpful thank you! :)

To all who are keen on twisting my words to make me seem like something I'm not...(note that being blamed or called something I'm not is one of my top pet peeves) GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!! :upyours:

Well im not sure why you see American laws as stupid and unfair, as by the sound of it your in 7th grade, so i'd say it'd be more a matter of the school districts protocol on the matter of bullying.

I did catch him red handed and every time I do he gives me a freaky glare. It creeps me out. :(

You could try humiliating him. While I don't neccisarily advocate making fun of people on welfare, play ground rules apply...

He steals your shit, you catch him, he gives you a look-

"Ah man, did they cut off your welfare again? It's alright, man. You can have it. I understand you're needy."

"Still tryin' to raise money for that medication, eh? The voices will stop soon."

"You can take my eraser, but it won't make that dick any bigger."

"Look, for the last time-It's flattering and all, but I'm straight and I don't want to go out with you." (alright, playing on homophobia...but again, schoolground rules...)

"You know, that ruler won't replace your mother's love."

etc.

Yeah, not a good idea.

People these days tend to bring a large group of friends along to conduct revenge beatings. When you're unpopular enough to be picked on, this is bad (speaking from experience.)

I meant a more innocent age in that a fracas in the playground wasn't likely to end up with adult intervention or legal action. My personal opinion: taking a beating or two hurts less than constantly getting victimized.

He steals your shit, you catch him, he gives you a look-

...wouldn't 'what the fuck do you think you're doing?' be more to the point?

What's the worst that can happen - a bloody nose or something. Better that than ongoing lingering dread.

The guy stealing obviously has problems of his own (else he wouldn't be acting like a prick), and I fail to see how mockery is meant to bring about any kind of resolution.

He steals your shit, you catch him, he gives you a look-

...wouldn't 'what the fuck do you think you're doing?' be more to the point?

What's the worst that can happen - a bloody nose or something. Better that than ongoing lingering dread.
Well, yeah. But he seems unwilling to do that. And he said that the guy got all hautty when he tried to defend his shit, so maybe he's already tried it.

I did catch him red handed and every time I do he gives me a freaky glare. It creeps me out. :(
well give him something to cry (rather than glare) about then. either my way or this way:
You could try humiliating him. While I don't neccisarily advocate making fun of people on welfare, play ground rules apply...

He steals your shit, you catch him, he gives you a look-

"Ah man, did they cut off your welfare again? It's alright, man. You can have it. I understand you're needy."

"Still tryin' to raise money for that medication, eh? The voices will stop soon."

"You can take my eraser, but it won't make that dick any bigger."

"Look, for the last time-It's flattering and all, but I'm straight and I don't want to go out with you." (alright, playing on homophobia...but again, schoolground rules...)

"You know, that ruler won't replace your mother's love."

etc.

either can work, depends on the person. as has been said already, you can't let this guy walk all over you or he'll keep doing what he likes. my entire time at primary school and the first couple of years at secondary school were ruined because i didn't stand up to my bullies. if you make people respect you they will.

You could try humiliating him. While I don't neccisarily advocate making fun of people on welfare, play ground rules apply...

He steals your shit, you catch him, he gives you a look-

"Ah man, did they cut off your welfare again? It's alright, man. You can have it. I understand you're needy."

"Still tryin' to raise money for that medication, eh? The voices will stop soon."

"You can take my eraser, but it won't make that dick any bigger."

"Look, for the last time-It's flattering and all, but I'm straight and I don't want to go out with you." (alright, playing on homophobia...but again, schoolground rules...)

"You know, that ruler won't replace your mother's love."

etc.

Teehee :D

Teehee :D

This, by the way, is actually how I dealt with most of the bullying through out my childhood with that earlier mentioned exception, and it worked like a charm. Eventually no one would want to pick on me because they didn't want to get clowned.

I meant a more innocent age in that a fracas in the playground wasn't likely to end up with adult intervention or legal action. My personal opinion: taking a beating or two hurts less than constantly getting victimized.

Well, as long as they swing first, I guess...

Fine I will, but those who squeal, whether they're on the right side or not tend to get it worse in America. :confused: :(

Why make it known you're the one who squealed? Just run an anonymous website called "Thieves of (insert school name here" and post as many incriminating photos as you can. Make sure to leave a claim that the admin won't do anything about these people.

If you squeal then this guy will just wait until there are no teachers around and take your shit anyways... that's the way bullies were when I was in school.

If you want it to stop you have to have the confrontation, and in order to have a successful confrontation you have to be certain of your stance in the 'right' side of things - it will make you angry and more aggressive to know that you're being victimized. If you try to confront with the attitude that you deserve it or you can't ever make it stop then he'll just laugh and keep doing it. Catching him in the act, looking him in the eye with a righteous indignation and telling him to leave your stuff alone - no matter how 'scary' a look he's giving you - will back him down. If it doesn't you may have to present a physical defense to your property, even if you lose a fight like that you've shown that you're no longer an easy target and bullies go after the easy ones. Once you fight back you're no more fun. After confrontation if it still persists then you go to the authorities, either teachers or parents or the cops or all of the above.

Oh, also think maybe he likes you and is stealing your junk to sniff it and fantasize when he's alone. Lots of boys don't know how to do anything but push the person they like onto the ground to show their fancy, especially before high school when the seniors show the freshmens by example how getting some is done.

Fight him.

Not only that, fight anyone and everyone who gives you shit. Any shit at all.

Trust me on this one. You might have to do it once for each person who fucks with you, but when you tackle them, even if they're bigger than you, even if they can kick your ass, they won't fuck with you anymore. Too much of an issue having to go to the principals office, etc.

There's no point in telling the 'authorities' about the real problem. The educational establishment today is far too stupid to do anything constructive about it.

What you need to do it to sue one of the teachers for sexual harrasment, and claim that this guy's picking on you was allowed to go on as part of the hostile environment.

Once you've ruined a few lives, then they'll take notice.

Beat him up. Drug him. Ruin his life.

My advise for what it is worth is begin with diplomacy, be polite calm and courteous. "Please stop stealing from Me." is a good start. If it continues one word escalation, be positive and portray an air of authority. Then if it sill continues, my personal favorite, aggressive negotiations. Negotiations with fist, knife, or other assorted implement of harm. Some people seam to feel the need to pray on others and will not stop until stopped unfortunately this sometimes requires violence, and on rare occasions extreme violence to the point of causing permanent damage to the individual. It seams to me this individual is just an everyday bull and you just need to find the right button for this guy to shut him down. On a personal note I remember the 80’s; I was the nerd with the glasses who was into fantasy and Sci-Fi as well as metal music. :D I got bullied a lot, until I stood up for myself and then stood up for others. This of course got me into lots of trouble in school but I don’t regret a moment of it and I carried it into adulthood and later the Service.

Negotiations with fist, knife, or other assorted implement of harm.

Fist is one thing. A knife is another, and just about where we cross into the really-bad-advice camp.

Fist is one thing. A knife is another, and just about where we cross into the really-bad-advice camp.
Sorry I was not trying to advocate he use a weapon in this specific situation. He should be smart about it; this situation if it really came down to it should be just a good ol' schoolyard fist fight, but as I said before, diplomacy first. He should use all available recourses to resolve the situation with out open aggression and try to stick to school rules and policy. I didn't realize how bad it sounded 'till some one commented so thanks.:)

Stand up for yourself. Challenge him, show him that his authority over you is nil, that you're not going to just sit down and take it. Only then can you deter and defeat.

The best part is, given that it's English class, he'll be thrown off. He won't know how to respond within a controlled environment, knowing that there is a teacher mere feet away, and if he does throw the first punch, do like a boxer, hands in front of the face.

Fine I will, but those who squeal, whether they're on the right side or not tend to get it worse in America. :confused: :(that's wrong. It's important as to the method used.

Inform the teacher outside of class, and inform the Principal he may be doing this to others in other classes as well.

let them keep an eye on him.

then when he steals something again, and you catch him, as he's walking away, you bring the instructor into it. Right then and there.

*What's he stealing anyway?*

IF you are afraid of him, then surround yourself with your friends. don't go anywhere alone and inform the Instructors/Principal of your concerns.


and let your parents know what's happening also.