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Chemicals found in baggage

Christmahanikwanzikah
19-01-2007, 08:00
http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=5915935&nav=2CSf

No, NH3 (aqueous ammonia) and NaClO (commercial bleach) do not combine to form HCl (hydrocloric acid), but Cl2 (chlorine gas), a gas that is highly toxic and was even used by the Germans in WWII. (besides, even if it did form HCl, what would the guy do? splash it on some people?!)

if anyone was able to smuggle large enough amounts of these items onto an airplane or into a confined area, the effects could be disastrous.

Thoughts?
Christmahanikwanzikah
19-01-2007, 08:10
2 NH3 + 2 NaClO = 2 NaNH3O + Cl2 is the official equation for that.
United Chicken Kleptos
19-01-2007, 08:23
http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=5915935&nav=2CSf

No, NH3 (aqueous ammonia) and NaClO (commercial bleach) do not combine to form HCl (hydrocloric acid), but Cl2 (chlorine gas), a gas that is highly toxic and was even used by the Germans in WWII. (besides, even if it did form HCl, what would the guy do? splash it on some people?!)

if anyone was able to smuggle large enough amounts of these items onto an airplane or into a confined area, the effects could be disastrous.

Thoughts?

I thought it makes Mustard gas...
Damor
19-01-2007, 12:20
(besides, even if it did form HCl, what would the guy do? splash it on some people?!)You're not familiar with HCl I gather.. If the concentration is high enough it will easily evaporate, and in a confined space, it's possibly worse the Cl2.
If you take a bottle of concentrate HCl and put it next to a bottle of concentrated amonium, you'll see a nice cloud of NH4Cl form, tastes pretty nice.. But it gives an indication of how easily it spreads to the air.
Andaras Prime
19-01-2007, 12:22
Thoughts?

Make sure it's a crowded and well-confined area before hand.
Delator
19-01-2007, 12:37
No flights were affected and no charges are expected to be filed against the passenger.

Remind me again how this counts as news?
Cameroi
19-01-2007, 13:59
always lovely to see a broad term used in a way that assumes and perpetuates its bone headed idiotic association with a narrower one. "chemicals found in luggage" indeed.

if "chemicals" were never allowed on airplanes, no one ever would be, nor for that matter would they exist themselves!

argh!

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Teh_pantless_hero
19-01-2007, 14:00
You're not familiar with HCl I gather.. If the concentration is high enough it will easily evaporate, and in a confined space, it's possibly worse the Cl2.
If you take a bottle of concentrate HCl and put it next to a bottle of concentrated amonium, you'll see a nice cloud of NH4Cl form, tastes pretty nice.. But it gives an indication of how easily it spreads to the air.

Concentrated is the keyword here. How concentrated does it need to be? Probably alot more than most people can get ahold of.

Remind me again how this counts as news?
Because the boneheads failed chemistry class and don't know how HCl forms.
Myrmidonisia
19-01-2007, 14:14
I thought y'all 'd be talking about the chemicals found in Mike Vick's baggage. The THC-kind of chemicals.

It's about time for the Falcons to dump Vick.