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What is it with people?

Hydesland
18-01-2007, 23:31
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:
Farnhamia
18-01-2007, 23:33
Most of the twats I have known have been fairly nice. The people, on the other hand ... something in particular bring this on, or did you just reach critical mass? Feel free to vent.
Wilgrove
18-01-2007, 23:33
People in general, are idiots.
Vetalia
18-01-2007, 23:33
I take it something bad has happened?
Isidoor
18-01-2007, 23:33
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:

what happened?
Hydesland
18-01-2007, 23:34
I can't be bothered to explain. Mods delete thsi it was a fit of rage and it's basically spam sorry.
Pure Metal
18-01-2007, 23:34
what happened?

good question
Llewdor
18-01-2007, 23:37
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:
That you can even ask that question puts you in the top 10% smartest people on the planet.

That's why. People are dumb.
Oeck
18-01-2007, 23:39
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time?
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Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!

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:upyours:

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Mind your own advice, hmm?
Vetalia
18-01-2007, 23:39
what happened?

Someone set up us the bomb.

God, now I hate myself...that is so old.
Hydesland
18-01-2007, 23:40
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Mind your own advice, hmm?

Yerr may be ishoudl
Isidoor
18-01-2007, 23:41
God, now I hate myself...that is so old.

i had never heard it before!
Hydesland
18-01-2007, 23:45
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Mind your own advice, hmm?

Yerr may be ishoudl
Vetalia
18-01-2007, 23:48
i had never heard it before!

:eek:

Actually, you're probably lucky to have avoided the internets enough to miss AYBABTU.

Oh, and do a barrel roll. Press Z or R twice. (God, I'm a /b/tard too...)
Hydesland
18-01-2007, 23:53
I'm honored to have received a reply so good it was worth being posted twice, but I have to admit failure at understanding what you mean. Plain, ESL English please?

ETA: Please tell me you haven't been aiming for "Yes, maybe I should?", and/or that was an intended funny?

its likef a drunk way of typing "maybe I should"
Callisdrun
18-01-2007, 23:53
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:

Because they're human.
Oeck
18-01-2007, 23:54
Yerr may be ishoudl

I'm honored to have received a reply so good it was worth being posted twice, but I have to admit failure at understanding what you mean. Plain, ESL English please?

ETA: Please tell me you haven't been aiming for "Yes, maybe I should?", and/or that was an intended funny?
Infinite Revolution
18-01-2007, 23:56
cuz we are all too wrapped up in our own lives to properly consider how our actions will affect those around us.
Hydesland
19-01-2007, 00:00
NSG i thank, because it seems to be one of the few places werre therfesd no twats. It's as if the majority of ther population outside NSG is trolls.
Czardas
19-01-2007, 00:04
Let this thread stand as a lesson to you all:

Alcoholic drinks + internet access = bad, mmkay?
Snafturi
19-01-2007, 00:06
People are asshats. It will never change.
Callisdrun
19-01-2007, 00:07
Right. They're human and they are all you have. To claim you are skies above them in intelligence is (except in very rare situations) an ironic mimickery of the feelings of just about every other human on the planet.

The human race is diverse, thriving, and moving forward in a speed that defies what our biology should be capable of. Our capacity to survive eclipses what any other species is capable of.

I never said I was skies above them, did I? Don't put words into my mouth, it's rude and really pisses me off.

I'm as irrational as anyone, never said I wasn't. I just find it amusing/frustrating (somehow it's both) when people expect their fellows to be these rational, logical beings and are surprised and disappointed when they're not.
Czardas
19-01-2007, 00:07
The human race is diverse, thriving, and moving forward in a speed that defies what our biology should be capable of. Our capacity to survive eclipses what any other species is capable of.

Yes, because cockroaches, for instance, haven't been around for 300 million years longer and can survive getting stomped on by creatures thousands of times larger. And virii and bacteria can't live in a hostile body for potentially centuries, then evade all attempts to destroy them by mutating further.

These are just two examples. The human is one of the weakest and least capable creatures in comparison. If it weren't for our ability to reason and rise above base emotion and instinct -- our only strong point -- we'd be just another species of hairless ape wandering around the plains.
Callisdrun
19-01-2007, 00:07
Uh oh...

LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAAAAAIIIN!
Knight of Nights
19-01-2007, 00:08
Because they're human.

Right. They're human and they are all you have. To claim you are skies above them in intelligence is (except in very rare situations) an ironic mimickery of the feelings of just about every other human on the planet.

The human race is diverse, thriving, and moving forward in a speed that defies what our biology should be capable of. Our capacity to survive, express, and experience, eclipses what any other species is capable of.
Snafturi
19-01-2007, 00:09
Let this thread stand as a lesson to you all:

Alcoholic drinks + internet access = bad, mmkay?

Better than drunk dialing. That never ends well.
Greyenivol Colony
19-01-2007, 00:09
People wouldn't be half as exciting if they weren't such total douchebags all the time.
Hydesland
19-01-2007, 00:09
tiimmme warrpp
Snafturi
19-01-2007, 00:10
Uh oh...

LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAAAAAIIIN!

You have to admit, it kind of suits this thread.
Greyenivol Colony
19-01-2007, 00:11
Yes, because cockroaches, for instance, haven't been around for 300 million years longer and can survive getting stomped on by creatures thousands of times larger. And virii and bacteria can't live in a hostile body for potentially centuries, then evade all attempts to destroy them by mutating further.

These are just two examples. The human is one of the weakest and least capable creatures in comparison. If it weren't for our ability to reason and rise above base emotion and instinct -- our only strong point -- we'd be just another species of hairless ape wandering around the plains.

Human beings will survive the eventual destruction of the planet. Cockroaches can just suck on that.
Hydesland
19-01-2007, 00:13
I dunnoy what you ur into but i dont want any cockroaces sucking thatr :D
Ghost Tigers Rise
19-01-2007, 00:14
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:

Well, you see, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit! [/Team America]
Snafturi
19-01-2007, 00:20
Human beings will survive the eventual destruction of the planet. Cockroaches can just suck on that.

Nah, the cockroaches will be lauging and dancing on our corpses after we've wiped ourselves out due to our own stupidity.
Ghost Tigers Rise
19-01-2007, 00:21
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:

Well, you see, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit! [/Team America]
Czardas
19-01-2007, 00:21
Human beings will survive the eventual destruction of the planet. Cockroaches can just suck on that.

Nah, humans will destroy the planet, or at least make it uninhabitable for themselves by nuclear warfare. A few might be in a space station or something, but without shipments of food and such from Earth they'd die pretty quickly.
Knight of Nights
19-01-2007, 00:25
These are just two examples. The human is one of the weakest and least capable creatures in comparison. If it weren't for our ability to reason and rise above base emotion and instinct -- our only strong point -- we'd be just another species of hairless ape wandering around the plains.

You cant be serious. If I spot a weakness in humanity, its becuase they have lost touch with their instinct to survive enough that they are willing to put other creatures success ahead of their own. Yes it is our ability to reason that gave us our edge, but that is something that no other species possesses to the point that they can even hope to challenge our dominion of earth.

Think for a minute, about what the edge of reason has given us. We have language (And no, other animals do not, not even that parrot-there are parameters), We have domesticated other animals, we have the ability to survive on every land environment (Not even the cockroack). We are a powerful and thriving species and I dont know how you can even compare animals without taking intelligence into account.
Czardas
19-01-2007, 00:32
You cant be serious. If I spot a weakness in humanity, its becuase they have lost touch with their instinct to survive enough that they are willing to put other creatures success ahead of their own. Yes it is our ability to reason that gave us our edge, but that is something that no other species possesses to the point that they can even hope to challenge our dominion of earth.

Our dominion of earth will last until we wipe ourselves out due to our own collective stupidity. Our intelligence is not apparent in 95% of the earth's population; most people simply do not have enough common sense, and nor will their ancestors, to survive planetary destruction.


Think for a minute, about what the edge of reason has given us. We have language (And no, other animals do not, not even that parrot-there are parameters),
Yeah, we have language. We can communicate. So what? Other animals can communicate, too, via body movements or facial expressions or what have you. Except they only communicate about vital matters because that's all they need to be concerned with -- their species' survival. Humans on the other hand seem concerned least of all with their own survival; they fight wars, kill each other over petty matters of the artificial construct of poverty, experiment with creating biological and chemical weapons in laboratories, frequently refuse to assist the sick if those sick can't pay the hospital bills, and cheerfully go along destroying the ozone layer and the forests and the seas and plenty of other species we actually need to survive. For example, we're eating more grain than we're cultivating, and when we're out of grain, we'll have exterminated all the other competing species we could have eaten as well by overfarming amongst other things. We're killing off species of fish and bird and mammal we feed on, in such a way that we can't eat them. And we let large portions of our population live in extreme poverty in such a way that can spread diseases quite rapidly, exterminating them.

You can't say humanity is very rational considering how much it's doing to contribute to its own demise. Name a "lower" animal that does the same thing.

We have domesticated other animals,
And we need the concept of "domestication"? Other animals are capable of hunting their food; they don't need to raise it because it's too difficult to find, or because some environmental practice has been killing it all off.

we have the ability to survive on every land environment (Not even the cockroack).
Yet we can only live in 80% of the world wearing protective outer suits -- clothing -- in some cases, we need what resemble space suits. Not to mention I don't see too many people running around in the Taklamakan or Antarctica.


We are a powerful and thriving species and I dont know how you can even compare animals without taking intelligence into account.
I just did.
Oeck
19-01-2007, 00:43
Better than drunk dialing. That never ends well.

I don't know. With that, at least you only annoy one person (or, depending on the phone bill, possibly two).
Isidoor
19-01-2007, 00:50
I don't know. With that, at least you only annoy one person (or, depending on the phone bill, possibly two).

i have a friend who, when drunk, sends everybody cellphon messages, and then deletes them. the next day he doesn't remember, but all his friends woke up because he send them a stupid unreadable message, like "woa i'm so fucking drunk" (in dutch but with a lot of mistakes)
Bumfook
19-01-2007, 00:51
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:

pwnd :)
Knight of Nights
19-01-2007, 01:05
Our dominion of earth will last until we wipe ourselves out due to our own collective stupidity. Our intelligence is not apparent in 95% of the earth's population; most people simply do not have enough common sense, and nor will their ancestors, to survive planetary destruction.

Please dont throw out statistics you brought off the top of your head. How broad is your environment anyway? How can you even hope to speak for the people that you've only seen through a television screen?

Do you see yourself as above that stupidity? Are you going to be one of Nietzsche's ubermmensch? Your bitterness and cynicism does not lend itself to one who can actually lead. Humanity needs people to direct it, I will admit that. It needs direction and it needs focus, but not from anyone who thought like you. Could you have led the initiative to cure polio? the peaceful rebellion of India? Would you have stood against an army that killed your own?

You talk of war like it is an occupation of humanity alone. Species kill as brutally and as often as Humans, they just tend to do it outside their own. You do know many species kill for sport (As in they will not, or dont even have the evolutionary inclination to eat their kill) dont you?


Yeah, we have language. We can communicate. So what? Other animals can communicate, too, via body movements or facial expressions or what have you. Except they only communicate about vital matters because that's all they need to be concerned with -- their species' survival. Humans on the other hand seem concerned least of all with their own survival; they fight wars, kill each other over petty matters of the artificial construct of poverty, experiment with creating biological and chemical weapons in laboratories, frequently refuse to assist the sick if those sick can't pay the hospital bills, and cheerfully go along destroying the ozone layer and the forests and the seas and plenty of other species we actually need to survive. For example, we're eating more grain than we're cultivating, and when we're out of grain, we'll have exterminated all the other competing species we could have eaten as well by overfarming amongst other things. We're killing off species of fish and bird and mammal we feed on, in such a way that we can't eat them. And we let large portions of our population live in extreme poverty in such a way that can spread diseases quite rapidly, exterminating them.

You criticize us because we arent gods. We cant facilitate the well-being and happiness of every human being on earth. We compete with each other because we are so high above any other species, we are the only real threat to ourselves. Even the most primitive of tribes can kill any other animal they wanted. Just so you know, Packs do not share with other packs. There is war in the Animal kingdom. We have never been perfect, but our accomplishments work onward progressively.

You can't say humanity is very rational considering how much it's doing to contribute to its own demise. Name a "lower" animal that does the same thing.

This argument lacks merit and that common sense you earlier spoke of. Just about any animal will react in a hostile manner to another creature it doesnt know. Same species or not. The fact that I can sit at a table with any number of nationals, cultures ,or races is enough to say we are above this.


And we need the concept of "domestication"? Other animals are capable of hunting their food; they don't need to raise it because it's too difficult to find, or because some environmental practice has been killing it all off.

The triumph of Domestication is almost paramount to that of fire. If you think that this can be so easily dismissed in an evolutionary context, you truly lack imagination.

Yet we can only live in 80% of the world wearing protective outer suits -- clothing -- in some cases, we need what resemble space suits. Not to mention I don't see too many people running around in the Taklamakan or Antarctica.

Yet- We can do that. There are human aboriginals dating back thousands of years in every single habitat. Tundra, Desert, Forest, etc. They were the dominant species in every part.


I just did.

No.
Greyenivol Colony
19-01-2007, 01:34
I dunnoy what you ur into but i dont want any cockroaces sucking thatr :D

Go and sober up!!!
New Ausha
19-01-2007, 01:38
Why the fuck do people have to fucking act like twats all the time? I don't understand it!!!!

Why can't people be rational, why can't they think before they do something stupid and ruin everything!!!:upyours:

I know!

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bjz2.jpg
Vetalia
19-01-2007, 01:40
Human beings will survive the eventual destruction of the planet. Cockroaches can just suck on that.

I'll raise you one: The planet won't be destroyed.
Europa Maxima
19-01-2007, 01:46
That you can even ask that question puts you in the top 10% smartest people on the planet.

That's why. People are dumb.
I'd say deliberately so. I have more faith in humans than simply describing the lot as imbeciles. More independent thinking is a necessity though.
Potarius
19-01-2007, 01:46
I'll raise you one: The planet won't be destroyed.

Exactly, because Crono and friends will stop Lavos before it's too late!
JuNii
19-01-2007, 01:51
NSG i thank, because it seems to be one of the few places werre therfesd no twats. It's as if the majority of ther population outside NSG is trolls.

and for that, you can thank our wonderful mods.

take a deep breath Hydesland. distract yourself with some fun activities and things won't seem so bad in the morning. :p
IL Ruffino
19-01-2007, 02:33
+1
Ginnoria
19-01-2007, 02:34
+1

/1

Oh god, I'm so clever. I kill me.
IL Ruffino
19-01-2007, 02:48
/1

Oh god, I'm so clever. I kill me.

No, realllllly!

+1
Czardas
19-01-2007, 15:10
How broad is your environment anyway? How can you even hope to speak for the people that you've only seen through a television screen?
It's pretty damn broad enough. Don't make unfounded assumptions about people on the internet, you basement-dwelling hermaphrodite transvestite. (!)

Do you see yourself as above that stupidity? Are you going to be one of Nietzsche's ubermmensch? Your bitterness and cynicism does not lend itself to one who can actually lead.
Nor does your idealism. True leaders have the right mix of cynicism and idealism, an understanding of how bad the world is and a vision for how to fix it. You can't have one without the other to be a leader.

Humanity needs people to direct it, I will admit that. It needs direction and it needs focus, but not from anyone who thought like you. Could you have led the initiative to cure polio? the peaceful rebellion of India? Would you have stood against an army that killed your own?
Humanity needs four things to survive: reason -- logic, rational thought; purpose -- an end for which to use that thought; creativity -- the ability to apply that thought to reality; and efficiency -- the ability to apply it well. I'm not going to claim I have all of these perfectly. I don't think anyone does.

You talk of war like it is an occupation of humanity alone. Species kill as brutally and as often as Humans, they just tend to do it outside their own. You do know many species kill for sport (As in they will not, or dont even have the evolutionary inclination to eat their kill) dont you?
.... so, how does this make them so different from humans again? They kill other species in profusion. Humans do the same thing.


You criticize us because we arent gods. We cant facilitate the well-being and happiness of every human being on earth.
Strawman. We can't facilitate our own well-being and happiness, most of the time. Anyway, who are "we"? Are you insinuating that your "we" is somehow superior to or supposed to be making decisions for hundreds of millions of people in poverty? Remember, poverty and hunger don't exist among other species -- they're capable of finding their own food and living on what they get, and if they aren't, they die off pretty quickly.

Just so you know, Packs do not share with other packs. There is war in the Animal kingdom.
True. Other predators fight each other for land and resources. Again, how does this make them different from or inferior to humans?

This argument lacks merit and that common sense you earlier spoke of. Just about any animal will react in a hostile manner to another creature it doesnt know. Same species or not. The fact that I can sit at a table with any number of nationals, cultures ,or races is enough to say we are above this.

Maybe you can, o tolerant one. The vast majority of humans are distrustful of those of different races, religions, tribes, cultures, cities -- different "packs", if you will. How does this make them different, once again, from animals?

The triumph of Domestication is almost paramount to that of fire. If you think that this can be so easily dismissed in an evolutionary context, you truly lack imagination.
If you think my arguments can be so easily dismissed, you are the one who lacks imagination.

Yet- We can do that. There are human aboriginals dating back thousands of years in every single habitat. Tundra, Desert, Forest, etc. They were the dominant species in every part.
Once again, I don't see very much evidence of human aboriginals in Antarctica, for instance. Or living at the bottom of the sea. Or, for that matter, living in some of the world's more hostile desert or mountain environments (the Taklamakan Desert is an example).

Humans can inhabit maybe 20% to 25% of the earth's surface: that part of it that is not covered by water and is of a reasonably temperate climate, between about -20 and 40 degrees Celsius. Anything else is practically unworkable and even today requires a lot of high-tech equipment.

Humans aren't necessarily much worse than other animals, although they are the only ones who are systematically destroying their natural habitat, which other animals tend not to do. But much better? I doubt it.
Greyenivol Colony
19-01-2007, 21:37
I'll raise you one: The planet won't be destroyed.

What? Not ever?