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Have the Simpsons jumped the shark?

Cabra West
17-01-2007, 10:56
I feel they have now. It's a bit difficult to say when exactly, especially as Sky doesn't seem to show them in any chronological order, but the new episodes I see now and then have become boring beyond endurance.
The latest "OMG, I'm watching the Simpsons and I'm still bored!!!" moment occured yesterday, when I was watching the episode where Fat Tony gets shot and his son has to take over the business... 30 minutes of the Simpsons, and I didn't so much as smile even once. Sad. Really sad.

I always knew this moment would come, as it comes for every series at some point : I think they should stop the Simpsons. Now. Before they get too pathetic.
I V Stalin
17-01-2007, 10:58
Yep. About six years ago.
Delator
17-01-2007, 10:58
pfft...The Simpson's jumped the shark years ago.

Why else would they be coming out with the movie now? They know it's their last chance to cash in.
Cabra West
17-01-2007, 10:59
pfft...The Simpson's jumped the shark years ago.

Why else would they be coming out with the movie now? They know it's their last chance to cash in.

Good point... I actually suspected as much when I saw the first preview for that.
Cabra West
17-01-2007, 11:00
Yep. About six years ago.

Well, it's hard to say for me, as I've never had a chance to see them in any chronological order. So if I see an episode I haven't seen before, I've little way of telling if I just missed it so far or if it's a new episode altogether....
Delator
17-01-2007, 11:06
Well, it's hard to say for me, as I've never had a chance to see them in any chronological order. So if I see an episode I haven't seen before, I've little way of telling if I just missed it so far or if it's a new episode altogether....

Well, here in the States, I think it's pretty much generally accepted that The Simpson's started going downhill right around 2000 or 2001.

Too bad too, so much goodness in the earlier seasons.

"And the secret ingredient is....LOVE?!?!"[/Frink]

:D
Fachistos
17-01-2007, 11:12
Well, here in the States, I think it's pretty much generally accepted that The Simpson's started going downhill right around 2000 or 2001.

Too bad too, so much goodness in the earlier seasons.

"And the secret ingredient is....LOVE?!?!"[/Frink]

:D

Yeah, it's been said that it happened around the time when Flanders' wife died...which was way back.
The Potato Factory
17-01-2007, 11:17
I think the Simpsons Movie is going to tank, hard. There isn't anything they can do on the big screen that they haven't already done.
Delator
17-01-2007, 11:19
I think the Simpsons Movie is going to tank, hard. There isn't anything they can do on the big screen that they haven't already done.

I think it's going to break every box-office record worldwide.

There's an entire generation who haven't been alive in a time when the Simpsons weren't on the air.

We'll see, eh? :)
The Potato Factory
17-01-2007, 11:20
I think it's going to break every box-office record worldwide.

I didn't really mean in a money sense. I meant that's it's going to suck. It's be sucktacular.

There's an entire generation who haven't been alive in a time when the Simpsons weren't on the air.

I managed to dodge that bullet by 8 months.
Dryks Legacy
17-01-2007, 11:37
As someone who recently received the complete 5th season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_%28season_5%29) as a gift... I can say that the current episodes are really crap. around 5th/6th season is where I reckon it was at its best.
Harlesburg
17-01-2007, 11:45
I feel they have now. It's a bit difficult to say when exactly, especially as Sky doesn't seem to show them in any chronological order, but the new episodes I see now and then have become boring beyond endurance.
The latest "OMG, I'm watching the Simpsons and I'm still bored!!!" moment occured yesterday, when I was watching the episode where Fat Tony gets shot and his son has to take over the business... 30 minutes of the Simpsons, and I didn't so much as smile even once. Sad. Really sad.

I always knew this moment would come, as it comes for every series at some point : I think they should stop the Simpsons. Now. Before they get too pathetic.
Didn't you make this same thread last year?:p

The first 5 episodes of Season 17(???) were pretty awful, Manatees(I laughed once and that about the guys shirt) when the Simpsons move next to the cemetary, Alexander Graeme Bell and some other Scientist have a funny moment.

2 more seasons and a movie.

Some episodes in each season really blow, The last season(As i said earlier) was pretty bad and one back in 2003 but i can't remember when it happened but to get to the story it was completly random, that was the demise of the Simpsons but it got better after 2 seasons.

If you think that episode was bad, it gets worse.
Imperial isa
17-01-2007, 11:54
the what now, oh them they still on as i dont watch TV when they are on i forgot they are still on, till i look at the TV mag an saw that thay are

why are they still on they are shit now

*look's at time why i'm i still up*

Edit when did Fat Tony have a son
Cabra West
17-01-2007, 11:59
the what now, oh them they still on as i dont watch TV when they are on i forgot they are still on, till i look at the TV mag an saw that thay are

why are they still on they are shit now

*look's at time why i'm i still up*

Edit when did Fat Tony have a son


*eyes watering*

Woah... did James Joyce teach you to type like that??
Imperial isa
17-01-2007, 12:00
*eyes watering*

Woah... did James Joyce teach you to type like that??

past my bed time ,way past i'm starting to see two of thing's
Proggresica
17-01-2007, 12:01
If you know anything about the phrase "Jump the Shark" means, you would know it jumped in seasons 9-11, culminating in Maude's death. I still believe it to be a good, funny show in those times, but after that it just wasn't funny anymore.

Season 14 is the lowest point and 17 and 18 have been slightly better, but as much as I love it, it must be cancelled.
Harlesburg
17-01-2007, 12:21
If you know anything about the phrase "Jump the Shark" means, you would know it jumped in seasons 9-11, culminating in Maude's death. I still believe it to be a good, funny show in those times, but after that it just wasn't funny anymore.

Season 14 is the lowest point and 17 and 18 have been slightly better, but as much as I love it, it must be cancelled.
WTF?
Fonzie never died.
The ygave Maude the arse becaus she wasn't worth the money she was asking, yes i miss her but some of the episodes might never have been possible with her still there, she was a bit part.
Swilatia
17-01-2007, 13:23
for this reason they no longer show it in Poland.
Wagdog
17-01-2007, 14:25
Although I am aware of what "jumping the shark" means, despite having missed that particular episode of Happy Days somehow :confused:, I tend to consider the question irrelevant to my enjoying a show or not. Face it: Actors leave, or threaten to and then stay at the last minute after the producers throw a final penny in; storylines and characters evolve in response to this as much as the writing, and in any evolution you're someday bound to reach a point at where you have a hard time seeing here from there unless you squint.
As an example, I've enjoyed all the seasons of SG-1 about equally, despite them changing the point about as often (AND completely) during their 10-year run as the Simpson's have during their 20-year run. Case in point: just HOW many times did SG-1 off the season's bad guy only to either bring them back or reveal a "new threat" once the show got renewed for its ratings records?
Do I need to catch up with The Simpsons? Yeah; majorly. But strictly IMHO, what I see is still funny enough to kill 30 minutes on a Sunday evening.:D
Gravlen
17-01-2007, 15:00
I've stopped watching it years ago. It was around the time when Futurama knocked it off the throne. The Simpsons were getting boring, and Futurama seemed to be a great replacement! 'course, we all know how that went.

I don't think I'll ever forgive Fox for what they did back then...
Zarakon
17-01-2007, 15:02
Good point... I actually suspected as much when I saw the first preview for that.

Yes, in fact they're ending the series after the movie.
Greyenivol Colony
17-01-2007, 15:05
An interesting tangent, when the Simpsons is finally axed, which participant of the 'cartoon wars' will take its place as top dog?

I'd probably say South Park, its been going on for a decade now, and although its popularity has dipped somewhat since the early seasons, it still solidly produces quality material time and time again.
Cluichstan
17-01-2007, 15:06
They jumped the shark years ago when they went the Will & Grace route and started relying on guest stars (or, in this case, voices) to garner any sort of interest in the tripe they were producing.
Cluichstan
17-01-2007, 15:08
If you know anything about the phrase "Jump the Shark" means, you would know it jumped in seasons 9-11, culminating in Maude's death. I still believe it to be a good, funny show in those times, but after that it just wasn't funny anymore.

Season 14 is the lowest point and 17 and 18 have been slightly better, but as much as I love it, it must be cancelled.

Um...Maude? :confused:
Eve Online
17-01-2007, 15:09
I took a long break (about five years) and now it's funny to me again.

I guess, however, that they see the end of the gravy train, and that's why they're coming out with the movie release.
Cannot think of a name
17-01-2007, 15:14
Meh. Everyone wants to be the first one to proclaim the king is dead, especially since it's far too late to be the one who discovers it.

Frankly I still enjoy the show and it still makes me laugh. Not every episode is a total gem, but overall I enjoy it and it beats the everlivinng shit out of anything else in its time slot on Sundays.

But haters will be haters.
Eve Online
17-01-2007, 15:14
Meh. Everyone wants to be the first one to proclaim the king is dead, especially since it's far too late to be the one who discovers it.

Frankly I still enjoy the show and it still makes me laugh. Not every episode is a total gem, but overall I enjoy it and it beats the everlivinng shit out of anything else in its time slot on Sundays.

But haters will be haters.

If the episode is boring, I can always go back and read Life in Hell.
Potarius
17-01-2007, 15:20
it beats the everlivinng shit out of anything else in its time slot on Sundays.

American Dad, Family Guy...

...No, it doesn't. The new Simpsons episodes, while better than the past few seasons, are terrible compared to what they used to be. And they're nowhere near the quality of the two shows I mentioned above.
Cannot think of a name
17-01-2007, 15:23
American Dad, Family Guy...

...No, it doesn't. The new Simpsons episodes, while better than the past few seasons, are terrible compared to what they used to be. And they're nowhere near the quality of the two shows I mentioned above.

Those two shows are like watching your 10 year old nephew after you mistakenly laughed at something he said, and they are on after The Simpsons and on the same channel, not in the same time slot.

Look, don't bother trying to impress me with your cynicism, especially in matters of taste, it's just not worth it.
GodPetsNatureMusic
17-01-2007, 15:29
Ok...They jumped when I was in the 2nd grade!!!! I am now in 7th...Aren't they all reruns anyway? I NEVER pay attention since 2nd grade...They actually are still making new ones?
Cluichstan
17-01-2007, 15:32
Ok...They jumped when I was in the 2nd grade!!!! I am now in 7th...Aren't they all reruns anyway? I NEVER pay attention since 2nd grade...They actually are still making new ones?

Damn kids. :p
Potarius
17-01-2007, 15:33
Those two shows are like watching your 10 year old nephew after you mistakenly laughed at something he said, and they are on after The Simpsons and on the same channel, not in the same time slot.

Look, don't bother trying to impress me with your cynicism, especially in matters of taste, it's just not worth it.

Well, in all honesty, people who are missing a few screws definitely aren't worth it. Thanks for the heads up.
Kanabia
17-01-2007, 15:37
I've stopped watching it years ago. It was around the time when Futurama knocked it off the throne. The Simpsons were getting boring, and Futurama seemed to be a great replacement! 'course, we all know how that went.

I don't think I'll ever forgive Fox for what they did back then...

Aye, I hear that.
IDF
17-01-2007, 15:41
The show jumped the shark in season 11 when Maude died.
Cluichstan
17-01-2007, 15:50
The show jumped the shark in season 11 when Maude died.

Dammit, it wasn't Maude!
Cannot think of a name
17-01-2007, 15:57
Well, in all honesty, people who are missing a few screws definitely aren't worth it. Thanks for the heads up.

If that gets you by, slugger, then sure.
Mythotic Kelkia
17-01-2007, 16:05
I personally put the shark jumping moment pretty much at exactly the point when Homer gets raped by a panda in episode 12.05. And the golden age from mid-season 4 to season 8.
Nadkor
17-01-2007, 18:22
Some people reckon it's getting better again?

I saw last week's one, "The Wife Aquatic", and barely smiled the whole time. It was dreadful.
Nationalian
17-01-2007, 19:10
Simpsons will never get booring to me. I've never watched them in any specific order and I've never payed attention to if it's a new or old episode. It will probably get stopped in a couple of years if not sooner but I still think it's the best show ever made in history, because it's funny AND smart.
Prekkendoria
17-01-2007, 19:32
Regretably I have noticed a decline in the quality of 'The Simpsons', but only for a few seasons, and I can still enjoy the older episodes as I did then. I hope that they will end with the movie, and that it will not be terribly shameful. Still a great show though, possibly the greatest.
Langenbruck
17-01-2007, 19:36
I still like the Simpsons - sometimes the new episodes aren't so funny, but most times they are. They are intelligent and funny - not many series can match this.

And that the Simpsons are really boring - that is only in very few cases true.

I wonder how the movie is - perhaps they bring something totally new in 90 minutes, although I think it's hard to transfer a TV series to a movie. But I think we should give the film a real chance.
Seangoli
17-01-2007, 19:39
Some people reckon it's getting better again?

I saw last week's one, "The Wife Aquatic", and barely smiled the whole time. It was dreadful.

A far cry from such classics as the one where Homer buys the RV and is mistakingly thought of as Big Foot, eh? Those were the days...
Seangoli
17-01-2007, 19:42
I still like the Simpsons - sometimes the new episodes aren't so funny, but most times they are. They are intelligent and funny - not many series can match this.

And that the Simpsons are really boring - that is only in very few cases true.

I wonder how the movie is - perhaps they bring something totally new in 90 minutes, although I think it's hard to transfer a TV series to a movie. But I think we should give the film a real chance.

The Simpsons have treaded away from the intelligent end towards the slap-stick end of the comedy spectrum, in my opinion. And I really do not like slapstick comedy.

However, the clip from the Movie where Homer is bounced between A Rock and "A Hard Place" gave me a mild chuckle, so there is a bit of hope.
Intestinal fluids
17-01-2007, 20:38
For me it jumped about 2 or 3 years ago. It just simply stopped being must see TV.
Infinite Revolution
17-01-2007, 20:39
they're not as consistently funny as they were, but the newest ones are still funnier than the first series.
Harlesburg
18-01-2007, 06:03
They jumped the shark years ago when they went the Will & Grace route and started relying on guest stars (or, in this case, voices) to garner any sort of interest in the tripe they were producing.
What, 1993?:p
Although I am aware of what "jumping the shark" means, despite having missed that particular episode of Happy Days somehow :confused:, I tend to consider the question irrelevant to my enjoying a show or not. Face it: Actors leave, or threaten to and then stay at the last minute after the producers throw a final penny in; storylines and characters evolve in response to this as much as the writing, and in any evolution you're someday bound to reach a point at where you have a hard time seeing here from there unless you squint.
As an example, I've enjoyed all the seasons of SG-1 about equally, despite them changing the point about as often (AND completely) during their 10-year run as the Simpson's have during their 20-year run. Case in point: just HOW many times did SG-1 off the season's bad guy only to either bring them back or reveal a "new threat" once the show got renewed for its ratings records?
Do I need to catch up with The Simpsons? Yeah; majorly. But strictly IMHO, what I see is still funny enough to kill 30 minutes on a Sunday evening.:D
That is entirely correct.
for this reason they no longer show it in Poland.
Poland is tired of you so can Poland get rid of you, please?
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 06:10
The Simpsons have treaded away from the intelligent end towards the slap-stick end of the comedy spectrum, in my opinion. And I really do not like slapstick comedy.

However, the clip from the Movie where Homer is bounced between A Rock and "A Hard Place" gave me a mild chuckle, so there is a bit of hope.

I hated that bit, I thought it was a great example of how stupid and slapstick the jokes have become :(
New Stalinberg
18-01-2007, 06:21
You're just noticing this now?

They started getting stale back in 2003; around the time the 300th episode came out.
Seangoli
18-01-2007, 06:22
I hated that bit, I thought it was a great example of how stupid and slapstick the jokes have become :(

True, it was silly. But at least it was a bit of a chuckle compared to the complete idiocy of the last few seasons. It was better than most of the crap that they have spewed out lately. Not "funny", just a mild chuckle, which is all I can forsee the movie being.
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 06:27
You're just noticing this now?

They started getting stale back in 2003; around the time the 300th episode came out.

I didn't like #300
Seixas
18-01-2007, 06:41
The Simpsons is a classic show and will go down in history as 'THE' cartoon. I stopped watching around the 10th or 11th season when I too noticed that there was a serious quality dip. However, I recently downloaded the seasons they haven't released yet on DVD (like 9-18) and the show has definitly not lost all of it's luster. Although the Simpsons are not as consistant as they were during the 'Golden Years' they still come out with some really creative and funny episodes.

And let's not forget that all of the current cartoon series that are so popular like Family Guy, American Dad, Futurama (which is genious), ect. would have never existed if it weren't for the simpsons. Family guy especially as it is just a contemporary version of the simpsons, which people also thought was 'riske' and controversial when it came out 18 years ago.

You guys should check out this episode Fat Man And Little Boy from the 16th season. I think when it comes down to it they are just not consistant like they used to be, but the good episodes that do come out that remind you of the old simpsons make the new seasons worth while.
Demented Hamsters
18-01-2007, 06:59
As someone who recently received the complete 5th season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_%28season_5%29) as a gift... I can say that the current episodes are really crap. around 5th/6th season is where I reckon it was at its best.
I'm just about to give someone the 8th season:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_%28season_8%29

Which, imo, about when they peaked. Started a steady decline from there on. Sad, but understandable.
There's just so many times we can see Homer being an idiot, Barney drunk, Burns being evil, Marge looking annoyed, Bart being bad...
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 07:04
I'm just about to give someone the 8th season:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_%28season_8%29

Which, imo, about when they peaked. Started a steady decline from there on. Sad, but understandable.

That's also a great season. It contains some of my favourite episodes including -

Homer vs. The Eighteenth Amendment
Homer's Enemy
El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
The Springfield Files

and especially You Only Move Twice
Demented Hamsters
18-01-2007, 07:16
That's also a great season. It contains some of my favourite episodes including -

Homer vs. The Eighteenth Amendment
Homer's Enemy
El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
The Springfield Files

and especially You Only Move Twice

I love 'Homer's Enemy'
Grimes: [notices some pictures on the wall] I'm sorry, isn't that ...
Homer: Yes, that's me, and the guy standing next to me is President Gerald Ford.
[gestures to other photos]
And this is when I was on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins.
Oh! And here's a picture of me in outer space.
Grimes: You? Went into outer space? You?
Homer: Sure. You've never been? Would you like to see my Grammy award? [holds up award]
Wilgrove
18-01-2007, 07:42
So, The Simpsons Movie is like the grand finale of the series?
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 07:43
So, The Simpsons Movie is like the grand finale of the series?

No, they are going to keep going until they run it into the ground. Which could take a while.
Proggresica
18-01-2007, 07:43
So, The Simpsons Movie is like the grand finale of the series?

No.
UnHoly Smite
18-01-2007, 07:44
Anything 2000 and beyond sucks. I only watch the 90's stuff. Now its a mouthpiece for its creators and sucks beyond belief.
Harlesburg
18-01-2007, 07:50
No, they are going to keep going until they run it into the ground. Which could take a while.
That is incorrect.
I heard 2 seasons.






Plus if The Simpsons Jumped the Shark they also gutted and skinned it because it is on an Upward climb.
From the point when it was largely alleged that The Simpsons jumped the shark, The Episode when Bart and Homer become Catholic ended that argument, it was pure genius.

American Dad is absolute crap.
Simpsons is better than Futurama but it is inexcusable for it not to be on TV.
Family Guy falls in after Futurama, it has never jumped the shark because it's the same stuff everytime, Stewie and Brain are its only saving graces, i still love it though but it ain't no Simpsons.
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 07:55
That is incorrect.
I heard 2 seasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_simpsons#Criticism_of_declining_quality

Despite this criticism, The Simpsons has managed to maintain an audience and attract new fans, although the first season had an average of 13.4 million viewers alone in the U.S.,[12] compared to the 17th season, which ended with an average of 9.2 million viewers.[54] In an April 2006 interview, Matt Groening said, "I honestly don't see any end in sight. I think it's possible that the show will get too financially cumbersome...but right now, the show is creatively, I think, as good or better than it's ever been. The animation is incredibly detailed and imaginative, the stories do things that we haven't done before, so creatively there's no reason to quit."[55]

This is what I heard. Although I think all the contracts etc. will only last for a few more years.
Imperial isa
18-01-2007, 07:55
ten keeps jumping about with episodes,so when i do watch them ,which i have not been lately, i have no idea what season it is
Proggresica
18-01-2007, 07:59
ten keeps jumping about with episodes,so when i do watch them ,which i have not been lately, i have no idea what season it is

Ten plays the 6:00 episodes in a pretty linear order, actually. The rest are in a rotation of the newer episodes.
Pantera
18-01-2007, 08:01
The Simpsons has blown for a long, long time now. Futurama was superior in every way and remains so, even after being watched and rewatched a dozen times over.

Bender for the fucking win.
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 08:01
Ten plays the 6:00 episodes in a pretty linear order, actually. The rest are in a rotation of the newer episodes.

Channel Ten also usually only shows the new ones at 7:30. So if you want to see the older good episodes 6:00 is your better bet.
Imperial isa
18-01-2007, 08:04
Ten plays the 6:00 episodes in a pretty linear order, actually. The rest are in a rotation of the newer episodes.

your state they may
i cant recall a newer episode, here they like to mix
Poglavnik
18-01-2007, 08:09
I still love them. if nothing else they give a little stability to me in this everchanging world.
AND I WANT A NEIGHBOUR LIKE FLANDERS.
Wilgrove
18-01-2007, 08:12
I still love them. if nothing else they give a little stability to me in this everchanging world.
AND I WANT A NEIGHBOUR LIKE FLANDERS.

The Flanders would hate me. :D
Harlesburg
18-01-2007, 08:12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_simpsons#Criticism_of_declining_quality



This is what I heard. Although I think all the contracts etc. will only last for a few more years.
Well that is interesting, though that quote is from April of 06 and i heard 2 seasons after that.
20 Seasons would do it.

The Simpsons in Italy with Sideshow Bob was a good episode and the Story in a Story in a Story one was too,Homer, Mr Burns Snake and the Mob are going after some ancient treasure that Snake descovered when he was good.
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 08:13
I still love them. if nothing else they give a little stability to me in this everchanging world.
AND I WANT A NEIGHBOUR LIKE FLANDERS.

You post on NSG, you have many neighbours like Flanders
Transcendant Pilgrims
18-01-2007, 08:15
PI is exactly 3!!!!!

Now that I have your attention Mr. Groening, I suggest you remove the earlier episodes from syndication as we have all seen them roughly 31415926 times anyway.
Proggresica
18-01-2007, 08:20
your state they may
i cant recall a newer episode, here they like to mix

They place the same episode country-wide. Right now they are in season seven. The newer cycle is at 7:30 or 8:00 or whenever they decide to play them.
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 08:22
PI is exactly 3!!!!!

Now that I have your attention Mr. Groening, I suggest you remove the earlier episodes from syndication as we have all seen them roughly 31415926 times anyway.

But they're the good ones!

Personally I want to see Season 1 back on, as I have never seen it before.
Poglavnik
18-01-2007, 08:24
But they're the good ones!

Personally I want to see Season 1 back on, as I have never seen it before.

you arent missing too much really. Voices were kinda uninspired and drawing still very rough. Simpsons really hit it in second season.
Dryks Legacy
18-01-2007, 08:28
you arent missing too much really. Voices were kinda uninspired and drawing still very rough. Simpsons really hit it in second season.

But a lot of those episodes are reference later on.
Imperial isa
18-01-2007, 08:29
They place the same episode country-wide. Right now they are in season seven. The newer cycle is at 7:30 or 8:00 or whenever they decide to play them.

they may do but ten on my side has not the same owner as the eastern states one's, so we don't run the same
Harlesburg
18-01-2007, 08:46
PI is exactly 3!!!!!

Now that I have your attention Mr. Groening, I suggest you remove the earlier episodes from syndication as we have all seen them roughly 31415926 times anyway.
NIEN, I STILL LAUGH AT THEM!
UnHoly Smite
18-01-2007, 09:26
PI is exactly 3!!!!!

Now that I have your attention Mr. Groening, I suggest you remove the earlier episodes from syndication as we have all seen them roughly 31415926 times anyway.



WHAT!!!! Those are the only good ones! I don't watch anything past 1999! Those must stay, if anything remove the current ones!
Seixas
18-01-2007, 10:07
American Dad is absolute crap.
Simpsons is better than Futurama but it is inexcusable for it not to be on TV.
Family Guy falls in after Futurama, it has never jumped the shark because it's the same stuff everytime, Stewie and Brain are its only saving graces, i still love it though but it ain't no Simpsons.

Futurama has actually been resigned just like Family Guy and will be comming back to TV. There also already greenlit two Futurama movies.

Wikipedia:
The series aired from March 28, 1999 to August 10, 2003. Although Futurama was never officially cancelled, Fox decided not to buy the fifth season, and the program fell apart soon after.[1]

However, on June 22, 2006, Comedy Central officially announced that they have ordered 13 new episodes of the series.[2] If the ratings of these episodes are high enough, the show may be brought back for its fifth season.[3] Futurama is currently syndicated in many countries around the world.
The Pacifist Womble
18-01-2007, 11:29
Ages ago, when they started with frequent celebrity appearances.
Boonytopia
19-01-2007, 08:22
Yes. The show is still okay, but has really gone downhill.
Congo--Kinshasa
19-01-2007, 08:23
pfft...The Simpson's jumped the shark years ago.

QFT.
Harlesburg
19-01-2007, 12:15
Futurama has actually been resigned just like Family Guy and will be comming back to TV. There also already greenlit two Futurama movies.

Wikipedia:
Thanks for that.
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Ricky Gervais episode was brilliant too.
Season 17(?) really got better)