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According to the bbc (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6261897.stm) Russia is going to delete the foreign workers from the retail business. Sounds familiar? Sounds Ok?

No.


Delete them? I know I wouldn't want to be deleted by Russia (I know there's a Russian Reversal joke here somewhere).

Introspection does warm my heart so very much:)

So...their population is falling by almost three quarters of a million per year, which means their economy will eventually stagnate due to labor shortages, but they refuse to allow immigrants to work despite the clear need for them?

I swear, it's like Russia wants to be poor.

So...their population is falling by almost three quarters of a million per year, which means their economy will eventually stagnate due to labor shortages, but they refuse to allow immigrants to work despite the clear need for them?

I swear, it's like Russia wants to be poor.

THEIR ECONOMY WILL STAGNATE?

Jesus fucking christ, thats a tad of an understatement. Its beyond stagnation as it is....

Germany 1933 anyone..? Intra-state enemies fucking up a decent country..

THEIR ECONOMY WILL STAGNATE?

Jesus fucking christ, thats a tad of an understatement. Its beyond stagnation as it is....

Actually, it's been growing at about 7% per year since 1999. Of course, that means that they've only just recovered to their 1991 level, which was hardly something to boast about in the first place.

Actually, it's been growing at about 7% per year since 1999. Of course, that means that they've only just recovered to their 1991 level, which was hardly something to boast about in the first place.

I don't knwo the specifics, but how much of that is oil and gas? A single industry economy is very dangerous.

I don't knwo the specifics, but how much of that is oil and gas? A single industry economy is very dangerous.

It's mixed; generally, the growth is heavy on energy but they are also seeing investment in things like IT and manufacturing. However, their government is still reliant on oil for most of its tax revenues, and any huge drop in oil prices would hurt their economy pretty badly. It's not very diversified, but isn't as bad as Venezuela or Saudi Arabia, for example. They could survive a fall in oil prices without seeing a major recession.

Of course, after the early 1970's the Soviet Union's economy didn't grow except for rising oil prices and vodka sales...needless to say, we saw how that turned out. If Russia is facing a similar problem, they're in trouble.

So...their population is falling by almost three quarters of a million per year, which means their economy will eventually stagnate due to labor shortages, but they refuse to allow immigrants to work despite the clear need for them?

I swear, it's like Russia wants to be poor.

If their population is falling by almost three quarters of a million per year, that means they'll get to control unemployment and poverty in a decade or two...

If their population is falling by almost three quarters of a million per year, that means they'll get to control unemployment and poverty in a decade or two...

Poverty and unemployment will actually rise because of labor shortages, especially if the people who are dying are in skilled occupations and their replacements are unskilled laborers.

Poverty and unemployment will actually rise because of labor shortages, especially if the people who are dying are in skilled occupations and their replacements are unskilled laborers.

Countries like Russia, on avarage, dont experience labour shortages because of unemployment and underemployment....Russia is not a developed country.

Shortages in skilled occuppations should be addressed with making the education system better.

Countries like Russia, on avarage, dont experience labour shortages because of unemployment and underemployment....Russia is not a developed country.

Russia was a fairly developed country with a lot of skilled and well-educated people, but a lot of them left in the 90's due to the poor economy. If the economy starts to decline again, the brain drain will get even worse and they will suffer shortages of skilled workers.

Shortages in skilled occuppations should be addressed with making the education system better.

Problem is, without a growing economy, you're not going to have the money or the people to do that. Russia needs to grow in order to fund education, and in order to grow it will need a growing labor force at least until productivity starts to increase at a fast enough rate to develop the country.

Russia was a fairly developed country with a lot of skilled and well-educated people, but a lot of them left in the 90's due to the poor economy. If the economy starts to decline again, the brain drain will get even worse and they will suffer shortages of skilled workers.

Problem is, without a growing economy, you're not going to have the money or the people to do that. Russia needs to grow in order to fund education, and in order to grow it will need a growing labor force at least until productivity starts to increase at a fast enough rate to develop the country.



That's the thing. Russia is growing very fast and it will probably continue, despite demographic trends, because of high levels of unemployment and underemployment and hence there are lots of people that neednt be replaced.

That's the thing. Russia is growing very fast and it will probably continue, despite demographic trends, because of high levels of unemployment and underemployment and hence there are lots of people that neednt be replaced.

Problem is, though, that their population is contracting by about 0.4% per year. That's going to add up, especially since the developmental stage tends to be more labor intensive than later stages of economic growth.

Delete them? I know I wouldn't want to be deleted by Russia (I know there's a Russian Reversal joke here somewhere).

In Soviet Restoftheworld, you delete RUSSIA!!!

Problem is, though, that their population is contracting by about 0.4% per year. That's going to add up, especially since the developmental stage tends to be more labor intensive than later stages of economic growth.

Yeah it may slow their overall GDP growth but it may not affect or even positively affect their GDP per capita levels.

And there are lots of poverty in Russia. Once they deal with it, birth rate may increase...