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I knew this would happen. The republicans in congress, who actually "confidently predicted they would drive a wedge through the new Democratic majority, have found their own party splintering, with Republican lawmakers siding with Democrats in droves on the House's opening legislative blitz."

Can you say "more pickups in '08?" children? I knew you could ;)

link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/13/AR2007011301189.html?nav=rss_politics)

House Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said. "The Democrats will soon move from these issues that poll at 80, 90 percent to issues that really matter."

Yes, because flag burning and gay marriage bans matter so much more than stem cell research and homeland security. :rolleyes:

Yes, because flag burning and gay marriage bans matter so much more than stem cell research and homeland security. :rolleyes:

But nothing is more important than banning gay marriage! Won't someone please think of the children? :(



;)

Can you say "more pickups in '08?" children? I knew you could ;)

While that would be a good thing, I think you shouldn't start masturbating yet. A lot can change in two years.

I knew this would happen. The republicans in congress, who actually "confidently predicted they would drive a wedge through the new Democratic majority, have found their own party splintering, with Republican lawmakers siding with Democrats in droves on the House's opening legislative blitz."

Can you say "more pickups in '08?" children? I knew you could ;)

link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/13/AR2007011301189.html?nav=rss_politics)

No, but I can say that it is a perfect opportunity for third parties and independents to smash in and prevent the Dems AND the Repubs from getting a majority. That would be a really good thing.

No, but I can say that it is a perfect opportunity for third parties and independents to smash in and prevent the Dems AND the Repubs from getting a majority. That would be a really good thing.
Of only one could magic FPTP and gerrymandering out of existence...

The same thing was said about the Dems.

The same thing was said about the Dems.
And it was true, for about twelve years. I'll take that long, though I'd certainly prefer longer.

The same thing was said about the Dems.

And it was true, for about twelve years. I'll take that long, though I'd certainly prefer longer.
Yeah, this. I'm not dancing on anyone's graves just yet. And don't want to, I actually want discourse, even if I agree with an idea I want it challenged, but that's not what we've had over the last few years and it's been no good.

No, but I can say that it is a perfect opportunity for third parties and independents to smash in and prevent the Dems AND the Repubs from getting a majority. That would be a really good thing.

That would be great. I hope a strong third party does win some seats in Congress, enough seats so neither the Dems or Repubs will have a clear majority. Then maybe some things will get done because everyone will have to reach a reasonable compromise and maybe even pass legislation that a majority of the people want. Maybe they will quit this pork spending crap, cut the government, and balance the budget. We hope, or get activly involved.

That would be great. I hope a strong third party does win some seats in Congress, enough seats so neither the Dems or Repubs will have a clear majority. Then maybe some things will get done because everyone will have to reach a reasonable compromise and maybe even pass legislation that a majority of the people want. Maybe they will quit this pork spending crap, cut the government, and balance the budget. We hope, or get activly involved.

That would be ideal, yes. The balance of power (such as it is) between the two main parties has gone on so long with the basic dynamics being relatively unchanged that political stagnation and apathy have taken over, which is not good at all for a nation that wishes to have a healthy political life.

...maybe some things will get done because everyone will have to reach a reasonable compromise and maybe even pass legislation that a majority of the people want...

Actucally the article describes how this fracturing I talked about IS a good thing for that exact reason. Before now the thing that have gotten done would never have gotten anywhere, but the bills that have been passed have attracted bi-partisan support, and republican congresspeople have "broken ranks" and voted their conscience as opposed to down party lines.

Maybe they will quit this pork spending crap, cut the government, and balance the budget. We hope, or get activly involved.

That has also been addressed with the dem majority changing congressional rules to curb just that. Though here's a video (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/11/barney-frank-kicks-patrick-mchenry-around-the-house-floor/) of republicans trying to do things the old way.

We get a 51-49 split in the Senate, and there isn't any gridlock? What kind of a sick joke is this? This just makes me hate both of the political parties even more- I'd rather that they be full of partisan bitterness and rancor and thus be too busy fighting with each other to get anything done, than to work together to screw the country up for their own gain.

We get a 51-49 split in the Senate, and there isn't any gridlock? What kind of a sick joke is this? This just makes me hate both of the political parties even more- I'd rather that they be full of partisan bitterness and rancor and thus be too busy fighting with each other to get anything done, than to work together to screw the country up for their own gain.

What bills in this first couple weeks would you say have "screwed the country?" Or rules changes for that matter? Just curious.

We get a 51-49 split in the Senate, and there isn't any gridlock? What kind of a sick joke is this? This just makes me hate both of the political parties even more- I'd rather that they be full of partisan bitterness and rancor and thus be too busy fighting with each other to get anything done, than to work together to screw the country up for their own gain.

What bills in this first couple weeks would you say have "screwed the country?" Or rules changes for that matter? Just curious.

What bills in this first couple weeks would you say have "screwed the country?" Or rules changes for that matter? Just curious.

The 9/11 unfunded mandates, for one, and the minimum wage bill. I doubt that the lobbyist rules really matter- most likely they're just cosmetic and for show, and they'll have coincidental loopholes to keep sustaining themselves. And no, don't make the mistake that you think I'm a Republican- they piss me off too.

That has also been addressed with the dem majority changing congressional rules to curb just that. Though here's a video (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/11/barney-frank-kicks-patrick-mchenry-around-the-house-floor/) of republicans trying to do things the old way.

And the Dems who vowed to work 5 days a week decided to take a Monday off so everyone could watch a football game. :mad: Oh, and the game didn't start until 8 PM. :mad: :mad: So much for reform.