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No this is not an abortion thread, sorry to let you down. My brother and his wife are going to have a child in May, I already posted about this. They've decided for some odd reason that They don't want to know the sex of the child until it's born. Which is just seems stupid to me, because well, lets face it, theres not that many gender netural baby clothes out there. Of course I don't visit the baby gap all that often, so I could be wrong. The point is, if I ever have a child, which I probably won't, but if I do, I sure as hell would like to know what sex it is so I can decide whether I should buy a baseball glove or a tu-tu. However, on the plus side, so far there doesn't seem to be any genetic defect or sign of Goldenhar Syndrome (what I have) so that's good. At least this child won't go through the same Hell I did.

I can understand wanting to wait. I didn't, of course--I knew my daughter was a daughter early on--but I can understand the desire for the mystery. The health is the important thing, of course.

Not, of course, that the sex of a child automatically decides whether or not he or she would prefer a baseball bat or a tutu.

Not, of course, that the sex of a child automatically decides whether or not he or she would prefer a baseball bat or a tutu.
Or both. ;)

I would let it be a surprise.

I would let it be a surprise.

Why though?

Or both. ;)

Exactly :)

Umm...

Not only are they not going to be able to pick out a decent name...

Also, goldenhar's, had to look it up. When I first read it I thought it might be some really, really, really, really bad genetic defect like cerebral palsy.


But it's good it doesn't have it.

Why though?

I'm not sure why, can't really explain.

But I like the idea of the doctor yelling "It's a ____!", or maybe.. "IT BIT ME!".

If I were to have children, I would wait until birth to find out their sex. There's something about not knowing that appeals to me. At that age, it really doesn't matter what clothes you dress them in & there are plenty of outfits that are gender neutral.

I'm not sure why, can't really explain.

But I like the idea of the doctor yelling "It's a ____!", or maybe.. "IT BIT ME!".

I swear if the child actually says "It bit me!" I am just going to die laughing.

I'm not sure why, can't really explain.

But I like the idea of the doctor yelling "It's a ____!", or maybe.. "IT BIT ME!".

Or, "You've actually got an acute case of intestinal worms!"

Umm...

Not only are they not going to be able to pick out a decent name...

Also, goldenhar's, had to look it up. When I first read it I thought it might be some really, really, really, really bad genetic defect like cerebral palsy.


But it's good it doesn't have it.

Well I was concerned because she's a nurse, and so was my mom, so you can draw the connection there. Damn x-ray machines....

Well I was concerned because she's a nurse, and so was my mom, so you can draw the connection there. Damn x-ray machines....

Will X-ray machines do it? I figured it was genetic.

WilgroveL:
"Which is just seems stupid to me, because well, lets face it, theres not that many gender netural baby clothes out there. Of course I don't visit the baby gap all that often, so I could be wrong. The point is, if I ever have a child, which I probably won't, but if I do, I sure as hell would like to know what sex it is so I can decide whether I should buy a baseball glove or a tu-tu."

So... this is stupid because it makes it hard for you to buy clothing for a baby you're not buying clothing for and you're basing the fact that it's hard to buy this clothing on a supposition that you admit might be incorrect.

What I find foolish is the idea that you need to stick a newborn in a tutu or a baseball glove. Newborns cry, eat, and poop; they don't have much of a gender identity. Nor would I want to clean baby puke out of a tutu.

Or, "You've actually got an acute case of intestinal worms!"

"You have a parasite"
"A..parasite? Is that bad?"
"No, it's the kind of parasite that woman buy little shoes and clothes for, and bursts it's way out nine months later"
"Sounds gross"
-House talking to patient.

Will X-ray machines do it? I figured it was genetic.

From the reasearch that I have done and is still on-gong, Goldenhar Syndrome is either caused by chemical or radiation exposure. Back in the 80s they wern't as careful with X-ray machines as they are now.

From the reasearch that I have done and is still on-gong, Goldenhar Syndrome is either caused by chemical or radiation exposure. Back in the 80s they wern't as careful with X-ray machines as they are now.

That sucks.

Why can't real life be more like comics, where when your exposed to radiation, instead of being scarred or dying, you gain the ability to manipulate fire.

I GOT AIMBOT!

I don't see what's so important in knowing before hand. Most newborns aren't particularly interested in baseball or ballet and newborn clothing tends to be gender neutral anyway.

That sucks.

Yea, but my mom was a nurse when my brother was born to, so like I said the reasearch is on-going.

Yea, but my mom was a nurse when my brother was born to, so like I said the reasearch is on-going.

Ah.

I don't see what's so important in knowing before hand. Most newborns aren't particularly interested in baseball or ballet and newborn clothing tends to be gender neutral anyway.

It still looks strane to dress a boy baby in pink, or vice versa.

It still looks strane to dress a boy baby in pink, or vice versa.

It seems weird to dress a baby girl in pink?

Seriously, most baby clothes are just big ass socks.

I saw a t-shirt recently with a gender identity slogan on it that would add a modicum of humor to this thread, but I can't find it on the internet. Oh well.

It still looks strane to dress a boy baby in pink, or vice versa.
Wilgrove, there's a major difference between baby clothes (Say from around 2 or 3 months) and newborns. They tend to wear blankets, especially if their parents are smart given newborns spend most of their time sucking things at one end, and then expelling things from both ends. You want something lose and easy to remove, not the latest GAP Kids line.

It still looks strane to dress a boy baby in pink, or vice versa.

I don't mind pink. But the are those who consider me to be excessively effeminate, and I am a baby boy only in my cerebral capacity.

It seems weird to dress a baby girl in pink?

Seriously, most baby clothes are just big ass socks.

Hmmm..... *buys 500 big ass socks and cuts out holes*

I saw a t-shirt recently with a gender identity slogan on it that would add a modicum of humor to this thread, but I can't find it on the internet. Oh well.

Y'know what else would add humor to this thread? Dead baby jokes.


What's more disgusting than a pile of dead babies?
One live on in the middle eating it's way out!

Also, this would add humor as well:

http://www.strangesigns.org/albums/People/wei_feminist.jpg

I don't mind pink. But the are those who consider me to be excessively effeminate, and I am a baby boy only in my cerebral capacity.

My dad has a pink (he calls it fuscha) work shirt, it's fun to tease him about it.

Someone also mentioned the name factor, and most parents have a preset name for their baby anyway, why not just pick out one boy name and one girl name? And for those couples that wait to name the baby until it is born, it truly changes nothing, as the sex is revealed at birth.

I dislike the idea of baby clothes, they cost more (on average, based on the babies that I know) than the clothes that I buy (not that I am a chic fashion god... in fact close to the the opposite, my point is withstanding). There is no way that a small scrap of mass-produced fabric should cost anywhere near that much, especially when they rival the prices of larger pieces of mass-produced fabric....

Thats my rant for now.

Y'know what else would add humor to this thread? Dead baby jokes.


What's more disgusting than a pile of dead babies?
One live on in the middle eating it's way out!

Also, this would add humor as well:

http://www.strangesigns.org/albums/People/wei_feminist.jpg

The chick in the back wants me to iron her shirt? Well she better work 3-11:30 pm (I work nightshift...) to fiscally support the household (man, that would be a good deal for me... but then I remember the cooking, and the cleaning... and the all the other stuff homemakers do... sucky).

lol.

It still looks strane to dress a boy baby in pink, or vice versa.

Or you could buy clothes that are green, red, yellow, etc. You don't have to buy something that is traditionally gender specific.

The chick in the back wants me to iron her shirt? Well she better work 3-11:30 pm (I work nightshift...) to fiscally support the household (man, that would be a good deal for me... but then I remember the cooking, and the cleaning... and the all the other stuff homemakers do... sucky).

lol.

Look. That's a guy holding the sign.

His body was never found.:(

Look. That's a guy holding the sign.

His body was never found.:(

:( :sniper:

( :( = me)

I have a lot of friends that don't find out the gender, they still have genetic testing though, they just don't wanna know which gender they are having.

Does it annoy me? yep. Is it any of my business? nope.

I saw a t-shirt recently with a gender identity slogan on it that would add a modicum of humor to this thread, but I can't find it on the internet. Oh well.

Everything is on the internet. Look harder.

The chick in the back wants me to iron her shirt? Well she better work 3-11:30 pm (I work nightshift...) to fiscally support the household (man, that would be a good deal for me... but then I remember the cooking, and the cleaning... and the all the other stuff homemakers do... sucky).

lol.

They still DO that?:eek:

No this is not an abortion thread, sorry to let you down. My brother and his wife are going to have a child in May, I already posted about this. They've decided for some odd reason that They don't want to know the sex of the child until it's born. Which is just seems stupid to me, because well, lets face it, theres not that many gender netural baby clothes out there. Of course I don't visit the baby gap all that often, so I could be wrong. The point is, if I ever have a child, which I probably won't, but if I do, I sure as hell would like to know what sex it is so I can decide whether I should buy a baseball glove or a tu-tu. However, on the plus side, so far there doesn't seem to be any genetic defect or sign of Goldenhar Syndrome (what I have) so that's good. At least this child won't go through the same Hell I did.

...you have Goldenhar Syndrome? :(

No this is not an abortion thread, sorry to let you down. My brother and his wife are going to have a child in May, I already posted about this. They've decided for some odd reason that They don't want to know the sex of the child until it's born. Which is just seems stupid to me, because well, lets face it, theres not that many gender netural baby clothes out there. Of course I don't visit the baby gap all that often, so I could be wrong. The point is, if I ever have a child, which I probably won't, but if I do, I sure as hell would like to know what sex it is so I can decide whether I should buy a baseball glove or a tu-tu. However, on the plus side, so far there doesn't seem to be any genetic defect or sign of Goldenhar Syndrome (what I have) so that's good. At least this child won't go through the same Hell I did.

Ayeh. You make a good point.

Or, "You've actually got an acute case of intestinal worms!"

"Oh God, it's hideous!.. I mean, what a beautiful baby.."

Wilgrove, there's a major difference between baby clothes (Say from around 2 or 3 months) and newborns. They tend to wear blankets, especially if their parents are smart given newborns spend most of their time sucking things at one end, and then expelling things from both ends. You want something lose and easy to remove, not the latest GAP Kids line.

very true, I used to call them "spit and shit" clothes.

:eek: :p

i don't think it's that important to know what sex the baby is. and i don't see why you'd want to start deciding what the kid is going to like before it's even born. what if you bought all the sports shit for a boy and it turned out the kid wanted to play music or blow shit up with a chemistry set or do ballet. what if you bought a tutu for a girl and it turned out the kid wanted some matchbox cars to crash or a football or a mechano set? if i was to have kids i'd probably dress them pretty androgenously til it became aparent what they actually liked.

I think clothing should be a moot point...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514351

"Oh God, it's hideous!.. I mean, what a beautiful baby.."

Cue Stephen Lynch..

My lady gives birth today
I run to her room right away
She smiles with glee and hands her to me
I look at my newborn and say

Damn that's an ugly baby
Damn that's an ugly ass baby
I'm feeling quite concerned
My semen must have turned
Cause damn that's an ugly baby

:P

especially if their parents are smart given newborns spend most of their time sucking things at one end, and then expelling things from both ends.

I nominate this for dirtiest sounding sentence ever.

I swear if the child actually says "It bit me!" I am just going to die laughing.

If the child said that, I'd rather be surprised than laughing... On the other hand, if the doc said it, I guess I'd be proud. What a fighter!

No this is not an abortion thread, sorry to let you down. My brother and his wife are going to have a child in May, I already posted about this. They've decided for some odd reason that They don't want to know the sex of the child until it's born. Which is just seems stupid to me, because well, lets face it, theres not that many gender netural baby clothes out there. Of course I don't visit the baby gap all that often, so I could be wrong. The point is, if I ever have a child, which I probably won't, but if I do, I sure as hell would like to know what sex it is so I can decide whether I should buy a baseball glove or a tu-tu. However, on the plus side, so far there doesn't seem to be any genetic defect or sign of Goldenhar Syndrome (what I have) so that's good. At least this child won't go through the same Hell I did.


God damn those people, not running their private lives the way you want them to. The nerve of those assholes!

I nominate this for dirtiest sounding sentence ever.

Only on the third read.

Umm...

Not only are they not going to be able to pick out a decent name...

Why would that be hard? You simply pick out a guy's and a girl's name. Or a gender-neutral name. How do you think they did it before they knew the sex ahead of time?

Personally, when I get pregnant, I don't want to know the sex until the baby is born. I like the idea of having that surprise. And I see no reason to have a gender-specific room or a great deal of gender-specific clothing for an infant.

Why would that be hard? You simply pick out a guy's and a girl's name. Or a gender-neutral name. How do you think they did it before they knew the sex ahead of time?

Personally, when I get pregnant, I don't want to know the sex until the baby is born. I like the idea of having that surprise. And I see no reason to have a gender-specific room or a great deal of gender-specific clothing for an infant.

W-T-F???

You mean you're not going to live your private life the way the OP &al want?

What the hell is wrong with you? You prick :rolleyes:

Why would that be hard? You simply pick out a guy's and a girl's name. Or a gender-neutral name. How do you think they did it before they knew the sex ahead of time?
or you could just pick the name after you see the kid?:eek: :eek:

Personally, when I get pregnant, I don't want to know the sex until the baby is born. I like the idea of having that surprise. And I see no reason to have a gender-specific room or a great deal of gender-specific clothing for an infant.

my kids don't have gender specific anything, they have personality specific things......

W-T-F???

You mean you're not going to live your private life the way the OP &al want?

What the hell is wrong with you? You prick

Oh dear. I've gone and broken my New Year's Resolution:

"Live life as the people on NSG see fit...." hehe

or you could just pick the name after you see the kid?:eek: :eek:

That's possible too, but most of the people I've known have the name picked out in advance. I've been told that hospitals generally want a name down on the birth certificate pretty much right away, so it's easier that way.

my kids don't have gender specific anything, they have personality specific things......

=)

Yeah, I was easing up to that. I figure, if we can get people to realize that infants don't need anything gender-specific, maybe we can convince them that future toys should be bought, not based on sex, but instead based on the interests of the child....

my kids don't have gender specific anything, they have personality specific things......

Interesting..

It still looks strane to dress a boy baby in pink, or vice versa.

This is why people tend to buy green, yellow, red, white.....

No this is not an abortion thread, sorry to let you down. My brother and his wife are going to have a child in May, I already posted about this. They've decided for some odd reason that They don't want to know the sex of the child until it's born. Which is just seems stupid to me, because well, lets face it, theres not that many gender netural baby clothes out there. Of course I don't visit the baby gap all that often, so I could be wrong. The point is, if I ever have a child, which I probably won't, but if I do, I sure as hell would like to know what sex it is so I can decide whether I should buy a baseball glove or a tu-tu. However, on the plus side, so far there doesn't seem to be any genetic defect or sign of Goldenhar Syndrome (what I have) so that's good. At least this child won't go through the same Hell I did.

My wife and I decided not to be told the genders of our children before they were born. Do I seem crazy to you? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-006.gif

My wife and I decided not to be told the genders of our children before they were born. Do I seem crazy to you? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-006.gif

Is this a trick question?









But no, you don't seem crazy for THIS.... just for so many OTHER things.

That's possible too, but most of the people I've known have the name picked out in advance. I've been told that hospitals generally want a name down on the birth certificate pretty much right away, so it's easier that way.
I got 3 days to ponder the name, as long as it's filled out before you leave they don't care.......but, all of my friends who like "the surprise" pick out two or three names for each gender and then figure out what fits when the baby is born, however they are really into the meaning of the names and not just what they sound like.





Yeah, I was easing up to that. I figure, if we can get people to realize that infants don't need anything gender-specific, maybe we can convince them that future toys should be bought, not based on sex, but instead based on the interests of the child....

I do have to be honest and say that I did do the whole patent leather Mary Janes thing with both my girls, it's just pretty. Also, I would put bows on them when we would go out so people wouldn't say "what a cute little boy" but only after they were old enough to understand that they were girls (they didn't have much hair until after they were already 2)

I am all for waiting and adding a little mystery to life. Not that it matters anyway. In my jurisdiction ultrasound time is not wasted on determining sex. Even if the techs/doctors see, they are not allowed to tell.

That recorded, I think it is important to have both female and male names selected. I do not want to repeat the folly of my parents. They assumed that since I have an older brother obviously I was giong to be a girl. Based on that they were all set to put 'Katrina' down on the birth certificate. As it happened I am not a girl, so they were basically put on the spot for coming up with a name. They picked one thinking it was both nice and unpopular. It is indeed a nice name, but they stumbled across one of the top three for my year. My brother and sister therefore have unusual names, while mine is quite overdone.

As far as buying clothes goes, I am not concerned. I think it is stupid to arbritarily deny a kid certain colours just because of the child's sex.

Also- Who buys tutus and baseball gloves at birth!? A newborn can neither stand nor catch a ball. Besides that, it is patently ridiculous to assume a kid's interests will be determined bis her/his sex.

Everything is on the internet. Look harder.

http://www.genderofmybaby.com/

:D

And (s)he really means everything.