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I've Had It With These Motherf***ing trolls on this motherf***ing forum!

Kyronea
11-01-2007, 16:34
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical right-winged American, spouting off about how bad homosexuality is, or how immigrants are stealing our jobs, or how liberals hate God, or what have you.

DON'T.

I--and a lot of others--are quite frankly sick of it. You're not funny. Every possible thing you could come up with has been used up completely. There is simply nothing you can do to make your trolling amusing. All you do is waste bandwidth for Jolt and both our and the mod's time by acting as if you're being funny. Even trolls like MTAE aren't funny anymore, because it just wastes time. Now, please, by all means, if you want to argue different points of view in an intelligent manner, go ahead and do so. We could use some more of that, because that's what I come to NationStates to, because it's one of the few places on the internet where you can find decent intellectual discussion on a daily basis. I don't come here to watch troll account number 3241456 shout about the evils of homosexuality; I come here to discuss issues sensibly and to read other people's views on issues. So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please?
Greater Valia
11-01-2007, 16:37
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical right-winged American, spouting off about how bad homosexuality is, or how immigrants are stealing our jobs, or how liberals hate God, or what have you.

DON'T.

I--and a lot of others--are quite frankly sick of it. You're not funny. Every possible thing you could come up with has been used up completely. There is simply nothing you can do to make your trolling amusing. All you do is waste bandwidth for Jolt and both our and the mod's time by acting as if you're being funny. Even trolls like MTAE aren't funny anymore, because it just wastes time. Now, please, by all means, if you want to argue different points of view in an intelligent manner, go ahead and do so. We could use some more of that, because that's what I come to NationStates to, because it's one of the few places on the internet where you can find decent intellectual discussion on a daily basis. I don't come here to watch troll account number 3241456 shout about the evils of homosexuality; I come here to discuss issues sensibly and to read other people's views on issues. So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please?

It used to be much worse. And how do you know these people aren't trolls? Perhaps this is their honest opinion. While this has traditionally been a forum dominated by Liberals, that doesn't mean that few Conservatives here are merely trolls.
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 16:39
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical right-winged American, spouting off about how bad homosexuality is, or how immigrants are stealing our jobs, or how liberals hate God, or what have you.

DON'T.

I--and a lot of others--are quite frankly sick of it. You're not funny. Every possible thing you could come up with has been used up completely. There is simply nothing you can do to make your trolling amusing. All you do is waste bandwidth for Jolt and both our and the mod's time by acting as if you're being funny. Even trolls like MTAE aren't funny anymore, because it just wastes time. Now, please, by all means, if you want to argue different points of view in an intelligent manner, go ahead and do so. We could use some more of that, because that's what I come to NationStates to, because it's one of the few places on the internet where you can find decent intellectual discussion on a daily basis. I don't come here to watch troll account number 3241456 shout about the evils of homosexuality; I come here to discuss issues sensibly and to read other people's views on issues. So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please?

I do wish you'd just come right out and say what you mean, Kyronea, instead of pussy-footing around the subject. ;)

I do agree that sometimes it is a bit much, and tiresome, though I have to own up to a perverse delight in watching the frantic rantings of the trolls. Intelligence in debate is always welcome. I would suggest, however, that it's not as bad here as it is in other places. I occasionally peek into the AOL forums, the "Post Thoughts" thing on their various news stories, and I frequently feel like I need a shower after perusing a few of those threads. OMG! :eek:
Gravlen
11-01-2007, 16:40
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical right-winged American, spouting off about how bad homosexuality is, or how immigrants are stealing our jobs, or how liberals hate God, or what have you.

DON'T.

I--and a lot of others--are quite frankly sick of it. You're not funny. Every possible thing you could come up with has been used up completely. There is simply nothing you can do to make your trolling amusing. All you do is waste bandwidth for Jolt and both our and the mod's time by acting as if you're being funny. Even trolls like MTAE aren't funny anymore, because it just wastes time. Now, please, by all means, if you want to argue different points of view in an intelligent manner, go ahead and do so. We could use some more of that, because that's what I come to NationStates to, because it's one of the few places on the internet where you can find decent intellectual discussion on a daily basis. I don't come here to watch troll account number 3241456 shout about the evils of homosexuality; I come here to discuss issues sensibly and to read other people's views on issues. So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please?
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Smunkeeville
11-01-2007, 16:41
such language :eek: maybe it's time you stepped back from the computer.

http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1168250844-mom_cat___kit.b.jpg
Northern Borders
11-01-2007, 16:42
I do think its weird reading about some of the opinions here, but considering there are people of all ages and places, maybe some of them are being honest about their feelings and views.
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 16:42
I'm reminded that the sort of troll I really hate is the hit-and-run variety. I'll gladly withhold the troll designation if the person hangs around and participates.
Bodies Without Organs
11-01-2007, 16:43
I've just had an amazing idea - an 'IGNORE' option which readers can select so that they need not be exposed to particular posters' input.

Do you think I should suggest this on the Tech forum?
Kyronea
11-01-2007, 16:44
I do wish you'd just come right out and say what you mean, Kyronea, instead of pussy-footing around the subject. ;)

I do agree that sometimes it is a bit much, and tiresome, though I have to own up to a perverse delight in watching the frantic rantings of the trolls. Intelligence in debate is always welcome. I would suggest, however, that it's not as bad here as it is in other places. I occasionally peek into the AOL forums, the "Post Thoughts" thing on their various news stories, and I frequently feel like I need a shower after perusing a few of those threads. OMG! :eek:

Oh, believe me, I know that all too well. I used to peruse the Yahoo news message boards, which were basically the same as the AOL boards if what I've seen linked here is any indication. It's just that NS being NS, I hate it when I see trolls mess up this intellectual paradise amongst internet stupidity.

Valia: Oh, believe me, I know we've got some genuine conservatives on here, and I respect those. I'm just talking about the ones who most obviously can't actually hold the opinions they claim to hold. RuleCaucasia is an excellent example of what I mean.

Smunkee: Oh come on, you agree with me. :) (Besides, I was just watching a Colbert Report episode that referenced Snakes on a Plane, so I figured: what the hell, why not alter the quote for the thread title? Sure, it's been done before, but I think that only helps convay my point more effectively.)

BWO: I'm fully aware of that. I use it already on New Mittani. It's the threads that can be difficult to ignore, since they tend to obscure the real threads worth looking at. It's the overall amount of it that I'm trying to get rid of here, not just a few here and there.
Ashmoria
11-01-2007, 16:47
It used to be much worse. And how do you know these people aren't trolls? Perhaps this is their honest opinion. While this has traditionally been a forum dominated by Liberals, that doesn't mean that few Conservatives here are merely trolls.

you can tell by the way they structure their posts. using inflamatory words, going from one rude stereotype to another

godless atheists want to promote unnatural sex so that our children will all turn gay and destroy america. liberal media promote the gay agenda. god made us superior to other people.

no true attempt at making an argument = troll.

we have conservative posters. they make actual arguments that you can respond to and have them respond back. their posts make sense.
Pax dei
11-01-2007, 16:47
I do wish you'd just come right out and say what you mean, Kyronea, instead of pussy-footing around the subject. ;)

I do agree that sometimes it is a bit much, and tiresome, though I have to own up to a perverse delight in watching the frantic rantings of the trolls. Intelligence in debate is always welcome. I would suggest, however, that it's not as bad here as it is in other places. I occasionally peek into the AOL forums, the "Post Thoughts" thing on their various news stories, and I frequently feel like I need a shower after perusing a few of those threads. OMG! :eek:
Just had a look.ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!
LiberationFrequency
11-01-2007, 16:50
I thought why bother posting this, theres no troll threads on the board then I remembered Save the godless heathens.

Anyway stop getting so worked up, they want to annoy you and you've just gone right along
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 16:50
Just had a look.ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!

*offers Pax a box of disinfectant wipes* I warned you.
Neesika
11-01-2007, 16:51
I don't think you've been around quite long enough to really appreciate the job that trolls do here on the forum. They are an essential part of the NS experience, and not simply for entertainment value. For one, they allow beginners to experience the true frustration of arguing against someone who never actually intended to be reasonable. They help us learn to control our anger and disdain, and to recognise that it isn't always important that your oponent admit to his or her own flawed arguments. Trolls inspire us to great heights and the only thing I regret is that the latest batch are as clumsy as they are.
Smunkeeville
11-01-2007, 16:52
Smunkee: Oh come on, you agree with me. :) (Besides, I was just watching a Colbert Report episode that referenced Snakes on a Plane, so I figured: what the hell, why not alter the quote for the thread title? Sure, it's been done before, but I think that only helps convay my point more effectively.)


well, of course I do, but you gotta admit the kitty picture is way cute and I had to use it somewhere.
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 16:53
I thought why bother posting this, theres no troll threads on the board then I remembered Save the godless heathens.

Anyway stop getting so worked up, they want to annoy you and you've just gone right along

Well, at least Ky created a separate thread. A true troll wants you to have your seizure in his or her thread, so he or she can point to it with pride. And now and then you have to let that steam blow off. Keeping it in leads to strokes and twitchy eyelids and those two little grooves over the bridge of your nose, among other things.
Pax dei
11-01-2007, 16:54
*offers Pax a box of disinfectant wipes* I warned you.
You should have warned that I needed NBC gear before going in there.*takes charcoal and iodine tabs, injects athropine into heart*
Kyronea
11-01-2007, 16:56
I thought why bother posting this, theres no troll threads on the board then I remembered Save the godless heathens.

Anyway stop getting so worked up, they want to annoy you and you've just gone right along
Actually, that's not all that true of trolls on NS anymore. Most are actually trying to amuse us by acting like stereotypes. Unfortunately we've seen so much of it that I doubt even Jesussaves would be funny anymore, let alone poor rejects like RuleCaucasia. That's why I want them to stop, because they're clogging up the forum and wasting our time when we could be truly discussing issues instead of beating down the same arguments over and over and over again.

Neesika: I've been around since late 2004. I simply lost my original nation when I went on hiatus for a couple months.

That said, you do make a point, and I can agree with you to an extent. But again, it's the sheer amount of it that is appalling right now in my eyes, and personally? I think you can learn the same patience just through normal debate with sensible, logical people.

well, of course I do, but you gotta admit the kitty picture is way cute and I had to use it somewhere.

Absolutely. And speaking of cute cats, I need to get some pictures of my kitten Sokkwi being affectionate up at some point.
Ashmoria
11-01-2007, 17:02
Actually, that's not all that true of trolls on NS anymore. Most are actually trying to amuse us by acting like stereotypes. Unfortunately we've seen so much of it that I doubt even Jesussaves would be funny anymore, let alone poor rejects like RuleCaucasia. That's why I want them to stop, because they're clogging up the forum and wasting our time when we could be truly discussing issues instead of beating down the same arguments over and over and over again.


i think its our own fault. we talk about jesussaves as if he was the greatest poster ever and say how much we miss him. so the weak minded among us decide to do their own jesussaves so they can get this glory heaped on them.

jesussaves sucked and so do his wannabes.
Neesika
11-01-2007, 17:04
Neesika: I've been around since late 2004. I simply lost my original nation when I went on hiatus for a couple months. Thought you looked familiar:)

That said, you do make a point, and I can agree with you to an extent. But again, it's the sheer amount of it that is appalling right now in my eyes, and personally? I think you can learn the same patience just through normal debate with sensible, logical people. Sure, but I know what I object to is how atrocious the trolls are these days. We need some masterful trolls, not these pathetic imitations.
Rejistania
11-01-2007, 17:04
Please consider something: People called my already a Linux troll, I am not. Some people here are not trolls but radicals. they need a place as well because otherwise we begin a rather weird form of censorship.
Bottle
11-01-2007, 17:07
I want somebody to open up the NS General Troll Petshop.

See, I love to have trolls for pets, but the damn things are like goldfish...I can never seem to keep one alive for more than a few days. Sometimes I end up waiting weeks before I encounter a new troll in the wild, roaming freely through the forum. It does help when people set out troll-traps, such as threads about abortion or threads on the evils of capitalism/communism, but I still have to be there at the right time to spot the troll myself and bag it.

It would be much nicer if there were a convenient place to shop for pre-identified trolls. Then I could pick from an assortment and select the troll that best fits my needs.
Kytzenia
11-01-2007, 17:12
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical right-winged American, spouting off about how bad homosexuality is, or how immigrants are stealing our jobs, or how liberals hate God, or what have you.

DON'T.

I--and a lot of others--are quite frankly sick of it. You're not funny. Every possible thing you could come up with has been used up completely. There is simply nothing you can do to make your trolling amusing. All you do is waste bandwidth for Jolt and both our and the mod's time by acting as if you're being funny. Even trolls like MTAE aren't funny anymore, because it just wastes time. Now, please, by all means, if you want to argue different points of view in an intelligent manner, go ahead and do so. We could use some more of that, because that's what I come to NationStates to, because it's one of the few places on the internet where you can find decent intellectual discussion on a daily basis. I don't come here to watch troll account number 3241456 shout about the evils of homosexuality; I come here to discuss issues sensibly and to read other people's views on issues. So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please?
I think you wouldn't say such horrible things if you embraced the way of God and accepted Him into your soul, so he can purge it of this nastiness that you've allowed your heart to become surrounded by. You wouldn't have the need to speak with such hatred if you allowed God into your godless soul.
Cullons
11-01-2007, 17:13
yeah the trolls have got a bit boring.

maybe we need a luddite troll talking about the evils of modern technology.

or

a black supremicist troll and how all other people come from the seamen of satan or something..
Kyronea
11-01-2007, 17:14
I think you wouldn't say such horrible things if you embraced the way of God and accepted Him into your soul, so he can purge it of this nastiness that you've allowed your heart to become surrounded by. You wouldn't have the need to speak with such hatred if you allowed God into your godless soul.

See, this is what I mean right here. No one thinks that way apart from a few overly crazy fundies, and I doubt very many of those would actually step onto a forum such as this, let alone the sheer number we've had. He clearly doesn't mean anything he has to say, is putting up a poor effort, and is wasting our time. PLEASE STOP.
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 17:17
I want somebody to open up the NS General Troll Petshop.

See, I love to have trolls for pets, but the damn things are like goldfish...I can never seem to keep one alive for more than a few days. Sometimes I end up waiting weeks before I encounter a new troll in the wild, roaming freely through the forum. It does help when people set out troll-traps, such as threads about abortion or threads on the evils of capitalism/communism, but I still have to be there at the right time to spot the troll myself and bag it.

It would be much nicer if there were a convenient place to shop for pre-identified trolls. Then I could pick from an assortment and select the troll that best fits my needs.

Maybe we need a troll-park like those drive-through game reserves, you know, Bottle, where the creatures are given a facsimile of their natural habitat. And as an added feature, if you see one you like, the Park Rangers will help you rope and tie it and take it home.
Cullons
11-01-2007, 17:18
Maybe we need a troll-park like those drive-through game reserves, you know, Bottle, where the creatures are given a facsimile of their natural habitat. And as an added feature, if you see one you like, the Park Rangers will help you rope and tie it and take it home.

you could probably get a few volunteers for NS Troll Trappers.
Bottle
11-01-2007, 17:18
Maybe we need a troll-park like those drive-through game reserves, you know, Bottle, where the creatures are given a facsimile of their natural habitat. And as an added feature, if you see one you like, the Park Rangers will help you rope and tie it and take it home.
Splendid idea!
Kytzenia
11-01-2007, 17:19
See, this is what I mean right here. No one thinks that way apart from a few overly crazy fundies, and I doubt very many of those would actually step onto a forum such as this, let alone the sheer number we've had. He clearly doesn't mean anything he has to say, is putting up a poor effort, and is wasting our time. PLEASE STOP.

My poor dear, you're terribly deluded, aren't you? You think that because a large number of people want to save your poor soul that we are not sincere in our efforts? We are God's missionaries. God is saddened by the fact that some people reject his offers of salvation.
Hamilay
11-01-2007, 17:23
You know what would be frightening? A generalite who created a troll persona and used it so much, and was so successful, that they began believing what they said. Then the Troll-Mind took over their brain. :eek: *plays scary music* Like L Ron Hubbard.
Kytzenia
11-01-2007, 17:25
You know what would be frightening? A generalite who created a troll persona and used it so much, and was so successful, that they began believing what they said. Then the Troll-Mind took over their brain. :eek: *plays scary music* Like L Ron Hubbard.

But they would have to be mighty convincing, wouldn't they? That person would have to be enough of a godless heathen that they would be able to see the errors of their ways, and that being an atheist has no gains.
Kryozerkia
11-01-2007, 17:26
But they would have to be mighty convincing, wouldn't they? That person would have to be enough of a godless heathen that they would be able to see the errors of their ways, and that being an atheist has no gains.

They would truly have to be convincing. But, who would be stupid enough to do something like that?
Southeastasia
11-01-2007, 17:28
I think someone needs to calm down and chill out.....
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 17:30
I think someone needs to calm down and chill out.....

Oh, Kyronea will be okay. And I think it was very rude of HotRodia to shut down Neesika's "What Makes A Good Troll" thread. Sometimes, maybe we just like to talk about the trolls.
JuNii
11-01-2007, 17:32
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum.
{snip}
So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please? Trolls will always be around. just ignore them. the scary part is that as some said, there are those that actually believe what they post.

then again, if it wern't for some trolls, you'll get nothing but posts that say "I Agree" and that can get real boring real fast.

I do wish you'd just come right out and say what you mean, Kyronea, instead of pussy-footing around the subject. ;)

I do agree that sometimes it is a bit much, and tiresome, though I have to own up to a perverse delight in watching the frantic rantings of the trolls. Intelligence in debate is always welcome. I would suggest, however, that it's not as bad here as it is in other places. I occasionally peek into the AOL forums, the "Post Thoughts" thing on their various news stories, and I frequently feel like I need a shower after perusing a few of those threads. OMG! :eek:and there's your problem right there... man, I'm glad you manage to leave with your sanity after that...

I don't think you've been around quite long enough to really appreciate the job that trolls do here on the forum. They are an essential part of the NS experience, and not simply for entertainment value. For one, they allow beginners to experience the true frustration of arguing against someone who never actually intended to be reasonable. They help us learn to control our anger and disdain, and to recognise that it isn't always important that your oponent admit to his or her own flawed arguments. Trolls inspire us to great heights and the only thing I regret is that the latest batch are as clumsy as they are.Trolls are like Bag-pipe players... when they're good, it's fun and you want to listen/read. but you know that all Bag-pipe players don't start off good...

See, I love to have trolls for pets, but the damn things are like goldfish...I can never seem to keep one alive for more than a few days. Sometimes I end up waiting weeks before I encounter a new troll in the wild, roaming freely through the forum. It does help when people set out troll-traps, such as threads about abortion or threads on the evils of capitalism/communism, but I still have to be there at the right time to spot the troll myself and bag it.

It would be much nicer if there were a convenient place to shop for pre-identified trolls. Then I could pick from an assortment and select the troll that best fits my needs.Trolls are high maintanence, you gotta pay attention to them almost every minute they're awake, else they turn obnoxious and then shrivel up from loneliness.

See, this is what I mean right here. No one thinks that way apart from a few overly crazy fundies, and I doubt very many of those would actually step onto a forum such as this, let alone the sheer number we've had. He clearly doesn't mean anything he has to say, is putting up a poor effort, and is wasting our time. PLEASE STOP.... I met alot of people who actually do think that way Kyronea, how do you know Kytzenia isn't serious... unless Kytzenia is your puppet. :p
HotRodia
11-01-2007, 17:35
Oh, Kyronea will be okay. And I think it was very rude of HotRodia to shut down Neesika's "What Makes A Good Troll" thread. Sometimes, maybe we just like to talk about the trolls.

That's precisely why I let it go for a while instead of closing it immediately. It's also why this one is still open, though sadly it may not continue to be for much longer.
Kyronea
11-01-2007, 17:36
... I met alot of people who actually do think that way Kyronea, how do you know Kytzenia isn't serious... unless Kytzenia is your puppet. :p

Simularities between the names not withstanding, I and the mods can assure you Kytzenia is not my puppet. I only have two puppets: My ressurrected nation of PIcaRDMPCia, and Nylaria Province, neither of which I actually use to post on the forum.

And I know there are plenty of people out there in real life. I simply question the sheer number that somehow happen upon NationStates.

Also, once again: I'm not complaining about the existance of trolls. I'm complaining about the sheer magnitude drowning out the real posts.

HotRodia: I apologize if I broke a rule with this thread. Not my intention, I assure you. But of course, if closed it must be, closed it must be. The point hath been made.
Neesika
11-01-2007, 17:39
Oh, Kyronea will be okay. And I think it was very rude of HotRodia to shut down Neesika's "What Makes A Good Troll" thread. Sometimes, maybe we just like to talk about the trolls.

Just pointlessly talking about trolls is not really worthwhile. The topic of trolling is an interesting one though...who we end up calling trolls and identifying as such are usually the clumsy ones. The ones who really are trolling, generally manage to maintain consistency in order to argue a viewpoing they don't actually support, but feel it is important to explore. It's been said before...but good trolls aren't recognised as such.
JuNii
11-01-2007, 17:39
Simularities between the names not withstanding, I and the mods can assure you Kytzenia is not my puppet. I only have two puppets: My ressurrected nation of PIcaRDMPCia, and Nylaria Province, neither of which I actually use to post on the forum.

And I know there are plenty of people out there in real life. I simply question the sheer number that somehow happen upon NationStates.

Also, once again: I'm not complaining about the existance of trolls. I'm complaining about the sheer magnitude drowning out the real posts.
well, survival of the fittest ya know... Trolls that fail will perish... others grow out of their trollish phase, and some get to the point where they are Fun Trolls.

unfortunatly, tho, most of the Fun Trolls end up being deated as well.
Mac Suibhne
11-01-2007, 17:41
Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical right-winged American, spouting off about how bad homosexuality is, or how immigrants are stealing our jobs, or how liberals hate God, or what have you.

DON'T.

I--and a lot of others--are quite frankly sick of it. You're not funny. Every possible thing you could come up with has been used up completely. There is simply nothing you can do to make your trolling amusing. All you do is waste bandwidth for Jolt and both our and the mod's time by acting as if you're being funny. Even trolls like MTAE aren't funny anymore, because it just wastes time. Now, please, by all means, if you want to argue different points of view in an intelligent manner, go ahead and do so. We could use some more of that, because that's what I come to NationStates to, because it's one of the few places on the internet where you can find decent intellectual discussion on a daily basis. I don't come here to watch troll account number 3241456 shout about the evils of homosexuality; I come here to discuss issues sensibly and to read other people's views on issues. So please, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your energy, and start discussing things sensibly. Please?

Good luck finding a single forum anywhere on this lovely Internet without a troll or two. The only reason they get heavy notice on forums like these is because people usually just act trollishly back.

It's probably done for attention, sure. That's pretty obvious. As such... why do eighteen people always say "DON'T FEED THE TROLL" in the thread and then continue to "debate" the "topic?"
Farnhamia
11-01-2007, 17:45
That's precisely why I let it go for a while instead of closing it immediately. It's also why this one is still open, though sadly it may not continue to be for much longer.

Well, before you close it, allow me to ask these questions: if no one is actively going, "Here, little troll, here, boy," and then playing Whack-A-Mole on his or her head, is it troll-baiting? Granted, back on Neesika's thread we were - I was - poking fun at some trolls we've seen. Is that not allowed? I freely admit that I may have forgotten or misunderstood the rules.
New Mitanni
11-01-2007, 17:54
you can tell by the way they structure their posts. using inflamatory words, going from one rude stereotype to another

godless atheists want to promote unnatural sex so that our children will all turn gay and destroy america. liberal media promote the gay agenda. god made us superior to other people.

no true attempt at making an argument = troll.

we have conservative posters. they make actual arguments that you can respond to and have them respond back. their posts make sense.

"Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical left-winged European, spouting off about how bad George W. Bush is, or how the US illegally invaded Iraq, or how the religious right wants to create a theocracy in America, or what have you.

DON'T"

Does anyone on this board honestly believe Ky or anyone on Ky's side of the political spectrum would ever post a comment like this?

Ash, the same comment applies to you. IMNSHO, it's all a matter of whose ox is gored.

If anything, this thread just reinforces the stereotype of the "left-winged", of whatever nationality, as one who can dish it out but can't take it, and as one who demands that anyone who doesn't mindlessly quack out the latest leftie orthodoxy be silenced.
Ashmoria
11-01-2007, 18:16
"Alright, look, I know there's a lot of you out there ready to create one puppet or another to troll up the forum. I'm sure you've thought up a great way to act like a stereotypical left-winged European, spouting off about how bad George W. Bush is, or how the US illegally invaded Iraq, or how the religious right wants to create a theocracy in America, or what have you.

DON'T"

Does anyone on this board honestly believe Ky or anyone on Ky's side of the political spectrum would ever post a comment like this?

Ash, the same comment applies to you. IMNSHO, it's all a matter of whose ox is gored.

If anything, this thread just reinforces the stereotype of the "left-winged", of whatever nationality, as one who can dish it out but can't take it, and as one who demands that anyone who doesn't mindlessly quack out the latest leftie orthodoxy be silenced.

i sure wish i have a clue as to what point you are making

are you suggesting that you think that Kytzenia is not a troll?

are you trying out what you consider a higher form of trolling?

are you suggesting that my post meant that i consider every conservative on the board a troll?

are you suggesting that my post means that i think that there are no "liberal" trolls?

there are a few people here who take any strong conservative poster who keeps hammering out his point to be a troll but i have never been one of them.
Kyronea
11-01-2007, 18:24
No, New Mittani, I have no intention of censoring opposing viewpoints. I'm just tired of those playing upon stereotypes in a vague attempt to amuse people. I'm more than willing to debate honestly with people who actually oppose my views on issues. I'd love to hear from them, I really would. I just don't like it when people act stereotypically and clog up the forums with useless trash.
HotRodia
11-01-2007, 18:34
Well, before you close it, allow me to ask these questions: if no one is actively going, "Here, little troll, here, boy," and then playing Whack-A-Mole on his or her head, is it troll-baiting? Granted, back on Neesika's thread we were - I was - poking fun at some trolls we've seen. Is that not allowed? I freely admit that I may have forgotten or misunderstood the rules.

This thread won't be closed for troll-baiting. It'll be closed because of some of the likely responses to this:

They would truly have to be convincing. But, who would be stupid enough to do something like that?

Kryozerkia, you are getting a month-long forumban for trolling with the forum account of Kytzenia. That forum account has been permabanned.

I highly recommend that you not try to post around the ban.

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