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From a few things I have seen around here (sigs, desk top pictures) I was just curious as to how many of you play warhammer?

I myself have a Dark Angles army and have just started an Imperial guard one for 40K

I don't play it, but I read the fluff and rulebooks.

40k ftw.

I just thought I should have asked what sex you are as well, just to test the view that more men play it than women. :headbang:

Nevermind I'll do it another time.

From a few things I have seen around here (sigs, desk top pictures) I was just curious as to how many of you play warhammer?

Yes! I have a Salamanders SM army, as well as a Vampire Counts army for Warhammer fantasy. I can't wait till the Warhammer MMO comes out.

I don't play it, but I read the fluff and rulebooks.

40k ftw.

2 words: "Same" and "Blates".

I don't play Warhammer

I have an Empire army for Warhammer Fantasy, but (sadly) I've not played for ages. My army's mostly unpainted, as I like that aspect of "The Hobby" the least. But my Steam Tank's ace :)

Uh, well...the computer games are pretty cool....

I tend to avoid sitting in my garage all day painting a tiny piece of metal let alone if I have to pay £50 :p *flees*

I just play the video games. Dawn of War, pretty much. I plan on playing Age of Reckoning.

I wargame with lego. :D

I tend to avoid sitting in my garage all day painting a tiny piece of metal let alone if I have to pay £50 :p *flees*

Sitting in a garage? Are you crazy! It's bloody freezing in there!

However the models are over priced I do agree, thats way I get them form my brothers friend at half price :p

And I'm quite proud of what my tiny pieces of metal have turned into ;)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/theloneguardsman/Dark%20Angels/DarkAngeltechmarine.jpg

I have a Chaos force (Thousand Sons) and I'm currently rebuilding my Eldar army.

I have an Undead (pre Vampire Counts/Tomb Kings split) army that I haven't played in ages but still occasionally paint. At about the same time they split it, I stopped working for the game store where I got discounts so the two combined put me off the hobby.

just to test the view that more men play it than men. :headbang:


I don't think that's possible...

I don't play it. minatures gaming make me sad. Painting models makes me really really sad...

I don't think that's possible...

Oh crap! Thanks for pointing it out. :D

It looks interesting but I've never played it because I can't really afford to. I do however have a few random models that I've painted for fun.

I'm playing the warhammer tabletop RPG on wednesdays.

I play the tabletop RPG too. Got myself a Targeteer that used to be a Bounty Hunter. He'll soon change careers into an assassin though.

Did I mention that I really like the game? 'cause I do :)

*Snip everything*
I love your name :D :fluffle: :fluffle:

I don't think that's possible...

I don't play it. minatures gaming make me sad. Painting models makes me really really sad...

Think of it as creative order (or disorder depending on your painting skills). That should make it all better.

once upon a time i played warhammer 40.000.

I started when the space hulk board game came out. damn that was 17 years ago......:eek:

then i got into the lead models and i had an ultramarine army. fighting the good fight against the genestealers and the Tyranid breathren! those were the days

good to see people still play

From a few things I have seen around here (sigs, desk top pictures) I was just curious as to how many of you play warhammer?

I myself have a Dark Angles army and have just started an Imperial guard one for 40K


I played 40k many years ago (20 or so), but lost patience with the various rule changes etc. I still love the background, play most of the video games etc. I'll give the on-line warhammer a pop when it comes out too. Theres far worse things you could do with your spare time.....

From a few things I have seen around here (sigs, desk top pictures) I was just curious as to how many of you play warhammer?

I myself have a Dark Angles army and have just started an Imperial guard one for 40K
*smacks United Uniformity with the back of his hand*
And that's for attacking Leman Russ. A Space Wolf never forgets! :D

Okay, enough with the fluff! I've played about 3 games in the last 15 years, but I like collecting them and I've read most 40K novels there are.

I've got the equivalent of three Great Companies of Space Wolves, some 'nids, some Orks, some Catachan Imps, a few Inquisitiors plus folks, Death Guard plus Plague Bearers and zombies...

Of course, most of the models are not painted and I'll probably only find the time to do that once I'm retired in 40 years' time.

But I really like the fluff and background. Only that GW's price policy is bad, bad, bad! And about 20% more expensive in Germany than anywhere else I've been. Bah!
I have a Chaos force (Thousand Sons) and I'm currently rebuilding my Eldar army.
Thousand Sons? THOUSAND SONS?!? Arrrgh! (Okay, enough of this. :p)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/ImperialEagleRotating.gif

*smacks United Uniformity with the back of his hand*
And that's for attacking Leman Russ. A Space Wolf never forgets! :D

*smacks German Nightmare back*

Russ diserved it. If he had only followed Lions plan it would have been much better for everyone. :p

I have about 3,000 points of Cadians, 2000 points of Black Templars, 750 points of Tau, and about 500 points of Adeptus Arbites (uses the Witchhunter book).

I used to play 40k. Had a huge eldar army, over 2k points in Harlequins alone. I started way back when it was Rogue Trader, and eventually gave up after they kept 'updating' the rules. I couldn't afford to buy a whole new set of codexes every couple of years. I still love the fluff and setting though, it's one of the best sci-fi universes out there (in my humble opinion, anyways).

I've also just recently discovered the joy of the warhammer tabletop rpg, which I'm thoroughly enjoying. The career system is brilliant. I have a Priest of Morr tearing up the Old World who I think I'll eventually turn into a templar.

Bah! We is knowing dat it is da orkf (I 'ad ta spen' me teef on dat noo buggy) 'oo is da beft!

Though in all seriousness, I collect Orcs (Warhammer). Only a 1200 point army (and that is due to lots of characters, which allows me to spend less money).

If I could though I would get either an Ork (Warhammer 40k) or Necron (just for the C'tan) or a mess of Inquisitors with Space Marines, just so I can lose to an Ork/Necron player!

Warhammer is so nerdy :D
And nah, I rather play with Lego...

Though in all seriousness, I collect Orcs (Warhammer). Only a 1200 point army (and that is due to lots of characters, which allows me to spend less money).

a lot of characters in 1200 points will generally mean a lot of trouble, since they tend to be heavy points cost, and the bang to the buck of mass characters really doesn't start to pay off until 2k at least.

Typically in an <1500 army you're looking at 1 general, a bsb and MAYBE an additional hero as maybe some damage or extra magic and a scroller.

I mean...um...what are you all talking about?

as well as a Vampire Counts army for Warhammer fantasy.

are you as irritated as I am with what 7th did for bat swarms?

I use to play UnDead before they gimmed the whole army and split it into Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings. I use to own all over the game board with my 5,000 point UnDead army but now I play High Elves, though I haven't actually played in over 4 years.

I play, I've got 2,000pts of dark elves, about 250pts of vampires, but am working on getting more, and 1,000pts of imperial guard.

I use to play UnDead before they gimmed the whole army and split it into Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings. I use to own all over the game board with my 5,000 point UnDead army but now I play High Elves, though I haven't actually played in over 4 years.

feh, the pre split book was an absolute mess, it had a few massivly overpowered combos like etherial troops led by a wraith, special characters that were just ludicrus (or ludicrusly cheap), horrendously powerful units like mounts that ignored terrain, and the "I don't care if he's 700 points I win" nagash model

40k all the way. I myself started out as the Necrons, painted them a Skynet-like theme. Then I got into NS about six months later, and then started to collect my Space Marine army based upon my NS good guy faction about a year later. Used the rules in the back of the SM Codex to create my own army based around Close Combat rather than long-ranged weapons. This last Christmas, I started up a very basic Chaos SM army based upon my SM army following the Chaos God Khorne.

I've got about 3000pts of Necrons and 3000pts of SM's. I haven't finnished assembling my Chaos army...

My brother on the other hand plays Dark Angels. Both the basic DA army and then Raven Wing and Deathwing with a grand total of 7000+ pts.

Yah not only do I play, but it is up to me to finance several of my family's armies. Specifically:

I play
Bretonnia (A shocker, I know)
Dark Elves

And for 40k a Black Templars force.

My fiancee plays
Wood Elves
High Elves

My older son plays Empire
My younger son plays Dark Ravens (40k)

Somehow I finance all of this... Imagine what I could do with all that money if there were no Warhammer.... :sigh:

Bretonnia (A shocker, I know)

evil


Dark Elves

Eviler.

Yah not only do I play, but it is up to me to finance several of my family's armies. Specifically:

I play
Bretonnia (A shocker, I know)
Dark Elves

And for 40k a Black Templars force.

My fiancee plays
Wood Elves
High Elves

My older son plays Empire
My younger son plays Dark Ravens (40k)

Somehow I finance all of this... Imagine what I could do with all that money if there were no Warhammer.... :sigh:

New armies for yourself?

Somehow I finance all of this... Imagine what I could do with all that money if there were no Warhammer.... :sigh:

You'd be rich beond your wildest dreams!:D

So you realize the next step of this thread is to get people who live near each other together to play :gundge:

So you realize the next step of this thread is to get people who live near each other together to play :gundge:

I hope no-one expect to play with me. I have no tanks or any heavy weapons with me. :(

EDIT: I do realise how wrong that sounds but you try saying it :p

*smacks German Nightmare back*

Russ deserved it. If he had only followed Lions plan it would have been much better for everyone. :p
*big brawl*

Okay, now that's settled - how about a drinking contest? I'll bring the good ol' Fenrisian Ale, and some aspirin for you so you don't spoil your gown the next morning. :D (And forget about Space Marine stamina - we've found ways to get drunk despite our enhanced body chemistry!)

And the plan was: You stand back and let the Wolves attack.

But at least our lost brethren are still loyal and faithful servants of the Emperor. (Oooh, that's gotta hurt!)

The new Dark Angels look great, though - I'll give'em that much. But I'm really looking forward to the 5th Space Wolf novel. Rumor has it it will include Dark Angels, too! :eek:
Bah! We is knowing dat it is da orkf (I 'ad ta spen' me teef on dat noo buggy) 'oo is da beft!
Iz it RED? I hope it iz red. Red ones go fasta!

But at least our lost brethren are still loyal and faithful servants of the Emperor. (Oooh, that's gotta hurt!)

I'll mussle you if your not carefull, now fetch

*throws stick*

I was considering getting started with the Tau in WH40k, although I was torn between them, the Space Marines, IG, and Tyranids.

Anybody have any suggestions? It may be a while, because there dont seem to be any stores around here that sell the stuff.

I'll mussle you if your not carefull, now fetch

*throws stick*
*growls*
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/MkVIIEagleArmourwithMkVICorvusHelme.jpg

Watcha gonna do when we come for you?

I used to play 40k, I think my old stuff is around somewhere. I played the red space marines, I don't remember the name. Blood something. That was a few years ago though and I kind of went off it. I've thought about getting into again but it's bloody expensive and time consuming...

*growls*
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/MkVIIEagleArmourwithMkVICorvusHelme.jpg

Watcha gonna do when we come for you?
you know that one looks like he has been mussled :D

When you come for me I shall distract you with a cat then tie you up and take you to..... THE VETS!
I used to play 40k, I think my old stuff is around somewhere. I played the red space marines, I don't remember the name. Blood something. That was a few years ago though and I kind of went off it. I've thought about getting into again but it's bloody expensive and time consuming...

I think you mean Blood Angels.

I have only played "Warhammer40K: Dawn of War" and I will not spend huge quantities of money on miniatures.

*growls*
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/MkVIIEagleArmourwithMkVICorvusHelme.jpg

Watcha gonna do when we come for you?

Pfft, that's these guys' line.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/tuebor/arbite15.jpg

And yes, those are my Arbites.

i haven't wargamed in about a decade (tyranids and skaven when i did)

but i'm loving the new (2nd ed) Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay by Black Industries!

I've played Necromunda a few times & really enjoyed it. It's hard now to find time & people to play though.

I used to play both 40K and Fantasy some years ago. But then I slowly drifted away and when I tried getting back into it, the cost scarred me away. I wanted to play an airborne all-infantry IG army, but when I started calculating what it would cost… * shudders *

A friend of mine introduced me to Warmachine, and I haven’t looked back since.

I still play Blood Bowl through. A bloody brilliant game if you ask me…

a lot of characters in 1200 points will generally mean a lot of trouble, since they tend to be heavy points cost, and the bang to the buck of mass characters really doesn't start to pay off until 2k at least.

Typically in an <1500 army you're looking at 1 general, a bsb and MAYBE an additional hero as maybe some damage or extra magic and a scroller.

I mean...um...what are you all talking about?

I was making the point that I haven't bought that many. I have little money so I decided to buy more heroes than troops.... for the time being.

I if I got around to actually assembling the rest of da boyz I would have about 1000pt army of orcs + 2-3 nob leaders and a black orc general.

Next installment would be the night elves (mmm, fanatics).

:D does anyone remember the sports version they brought out?

monster bowl of something?

Personally i'm not a fan of the Tau, from what i've seen/read they seem very star Trekkie, as opposed to the normal dark gothic look of the Warhammer universe.

From a few things I have seen around here (sigs, desk top pictures) I was just curious as to how many of you play warhammer?

I myself have a Dark Angles army and have just started an Imperial guard one for 40K
I have 14 Bretonian Archers
A squad of Imperial Guard Troopers
A Dark Angel Space Marine on a Motorbike, however he is armless the god managed to knock him off of a table broke both his arms off and then went on to eat said arms.

Once apon a time Warhammer was dirt cheap, then the fags realised they could make some real money floated on the share market or some shit and jacked the prices up.

does anyone remember the sports version they brought out?

monster bowl of something?

Personally i'm not a fan of the Tau, from what i've seen/read they seem very star Trekkie, as opposed to the normal dark gothic look of the Warhammer universe.
Was it Blood Bowl?
I remember, i thought it was shit.

Peasents of Bretonia!

*growls*
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/MkVIIEagleArmourwithMkVICorvusHelme.jpg

Watcha gonna do when we come for you?


Gun you down with massed bolter fire and more psychic powers than you can shak a grot at. After all, the Changer of the Ways is on our side!

What about the LOTR Warhammer sets?
http://www.conquerclub.com
*People should play this*

Yes, I have about 2500 point Black Templar army...or maybe its 1500, yeah its only 15. But ever since about five years ago haven't played much, or even at all. I love painting them, now, although I chose BT then so I wouldn't have to paint much (white shoulder pads, black base paint, and throw em on the board). Lots of fun, just nobody I know plays anymore and its so ridiculously expensive.

In a WH:F game right now. Can't stand playing with miniatures, so no 40K for me.

you know that one looks like he has been mussled :D
Help the foreigner here, please: My dictionaries don't have that word in'em...
When you come for me I shall distract you with a cat then tie you up and take you to..... THE VETS!
You can't distract a true Son of Fenris - not even with a cat!
Besides, I've already had my rabies shots, so no stress. :p
Pfft, that's these guys' line.
And yes, those are my Arbites.
True. True. I've always enjoyed the show "ARBS" when I was hanging out in the upper parts of Necromunda's Hive Primus. Veeery entertaining. :D
Great models, by the way!
I've played Necromunda a few times & really enjoyed it. It's hard now to find time & people to play though.
Half of my Catachans consist of Orlock gangers for those very reasons.
Gun you down with massed bolter fire and more psychic powers than you can shak a grot at. After all, the Changer of the Ways is on our side!
Or so you think. Can't always believe what Tzeentch tells ya, eh?
Besides - do not underestimate Power Armor and Rune Priests. And, of course, the fact that the Emperor protects. :cool:

Well, when I was younger, and didn't had responsabilities for 12 hours a day...

I used to be a fan of Warhammer. A heavy one, thanks to some friends and couples. (Yeah, you know that saying...)

I have never played Warhammer 40k. Never, although I have read a lot of novels, and I still have intact my eldar "Battlefleet Gothic" assembly. It was the game we played from the WH40K universe. So many glorious and gorgueous ships stored somewhere in my attic...Even a VoidStalker!. And yes, there I was good, VERY good, until they included the necrons, that is.

I used to play a lot Warhammer Fantasy, fielding an army of the glorious and exquisite Asur. I think I stored more than 4000 points worth of miniatures, that gave me the chance of changing tactics, and of which I preserve only some, like the old style regiment of dragon princes. Got my ass wiped by power play tactics and armies, especially Empire and Vampire Counts. (Or undead back then when they weren't vampire counts but undead).

Of course, I was more into the painting than in the gaming...I painted an entire host of Bretonnia once, back then when they didn't have trebuchets and weird paraphernalia. They were only Horses, Knights, and lances. Again, both filthy imperials and stubby dwarves used to make my Couronne nobles dissappear in puffs of acrid and black smoke. Gunpowder should be illegal.

I even played Warcry, the card game, I think I also have a deck stored somewhere...Oh, and regarding the tabletop roleplaying game, well...If you can say that playing once every three months is running a campaign, then I am still a proud Hoeth Journey wizard trying to escalate to the place of master wizard there.

Aaand, trying to master Dark Crusade, but the eldar are less powerful there than in the basic version of Dawn of War, and I'm getting tired of watching the machine waste my armies and bases.

Help the foreigner here, please: My dictionaries don't have that word in'em...

My mistake, I haven't spelt it right. It's a sort of cage you can put around a dogs mouth to stop it bitting. ;)

What about the LOTR Warhammer sets?

The LOTR is shit. It's one of the reasons why warhammer is so expensive. GW are making a loss on all the LOTR stuff they sell, and due to the contract they signed to be able to do it they have to stick with it. Making new models, making it one of the big games (on a par with the fantasy/40K) it has to have the same pormotion as the other games so most of the white dwarf mags are put over to LOTR.

It was never really popular, now they are just flogging a dead horse. I can't wait until the time when they stop making them. :mad:

The LOTR is shit. It's one of the reasons why warhammer is so expensive. GW are making a loss on all the LOTR stuff they sell, and due to the contract they signed to be able to do it they have to stick with it. Making new models, making it one of the big games (on a par with the fantasy/40K) it has to have the same pormotion as the other games so most of the white dwarf mags are put over to LOTR.

It was never really popular, now they are just flogging a dead horse. I can't wait until the time when they stop making them. :mad:

Really? That's weird. It sells quite well here (West Oz). My gaming club is having a tournament of it this Saturday.

Really? That's weird. It sells quite well here (West Oz). My gaming club is having a tournament of it this Saturday.

well if your into it then thats fine. It's just that it never took off as well as they were hoping it would.

well if your into it then thats fine. It's just that it never took off as well as they were hoping it would.
I blame it on the reduced size of the models - and the fact that all their stuff got more and more expensive.

First the "white metal", then plastic models - and each step increased the price by about 10-15%. Now, that is bullshit.

The best plastic models were the Rogue Trader Space Marines. I got about 2 squads of them and they look great, although maybe a little too small when compared to the newer marines.

I blame it on the reduced size of the models - and the fact that all their stuff got more and more expensive.

apparently they are smaller for a reason. The people who gave GW the licence to do LOTR said that they had to be a differnt size as to prevent you using them and other GW peices for conversions.

However I do think that the price hikes are way out of proportion, I can understand paying £10 for a basic tactical squad but not £18.

apparently they are smaller for a reason. The people who gave GW the licence to do LOTR said that they had to be a differnt size as to prevent you using them and other GW peices for conversions.
I heard that exact reason from the golden mouth of Gav Thorpe, when I playtested Inquisitor with him, a few years back. :D

I’ve got a respectable Dwarf army, and a not too shabby Space Marine force; a chapter of my own devising, fluff and all. But due to the prices and being a student, I haven’t bought any miniatures in a good wee while now. Though I good do with some of them new Dwarf models....

*drools* Ahhh, commodity fetishism....

I’ve always been a bigger fan of the minor games, Necromunda, Blood Bowl, and my personal all-time favourite, Warhammer Quest. Picked up a copy on ebay last year, to my delight, and got all me mates hooked.

Dungeon crawling FTW!

I heard that exact reason from the golden mouth of Gav Thorpe, when I playtested Inquisitor with him, a few years back. :D

You played Gav Thorpe? Did you win?:eek:

I used to play WH40K. Haven't done so in years, and I gave my Space Marine Chapter Harpers of Eire away.

Being a compulsive world-builder, I modified the setting a bit for a GURPS Space campaign.

Oh, 40 years old and male. I suspect I was pushing minatures around a table recreating the Battle of Leipzig before many of you were born. :D

I heard that exact reason from the golden mouth of Gav Thorpe, when I playtested Inquisitor with him, a few years back. :D
:eek: You spoke to Gav?!? And you played him, too?!? Wow.
I used to play WH40K. Haven't done so in years, and I gave my Space Marine Chapter Harpers of Eire away.
Being a compulsive world-builder, I modified the setting a bit for a GURPS Space campaign.
Oh, 40 years old and male. I suspect I was pushing minatures around a table recreating the Battle of Leipzig before many of you were born. :D
The fluff is the best part!

If you were any older I might suspect you were taking part in the Völkerschlacht. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/f12.gif

The LOTR is shit. It's one of the reasons why warhammer is so expensive. GW are making a loss on all the LOTR stuff they sell, and due to the contract they signed to be able to do it they have to stick with it. Making new models, making it one of the big games (on a par with the fantasy/40K) it has to have the same pormotion as the other games so most of the white dwarf mags are put over to LOTR.

It was never really popular, now they are just flogging a dead horse. I can't wait until the time when they stop making them. :mad:
How long have they been selling LOTR, 6 years?
The things were bloody expensive back then (and before then) they were expensive from 1999 til 2002 i don't recall any major price increases.
For a 'random' 'infantry' set of 5 troops you were paying $20 here that is $10 US or 6 Pounds(Can't be arsed getting the Pound symbol), White Metal troops were about $16 here.
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What is this about reduced sizes of the minatures?:eek:

How long have they been selling LOTR, 6 years?
The things were bloody expensive back then (and before then) they were expensive from 1999 til 2002 i don't recall any major price increases.
For a 'random' 'infantry' set of 5 troops you were paying $20 here that is $10 US or 6 Pounds(Can't be arsed getting the Pound symbol), White Metal troops were about $16 here.
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What is this about reduced sizes of the minatures?:eek:

Oh don't get me wrong were expensive before LOTR and LOTR isn't the sole cause, however there has been more price hikes since it came out.

As for the size issue, the LOTR models are smaller than any warhammer fantasy/40K games to prevent cross conversions.

As for the size issue, the LOTR models are smaller than any warhammer fantasy/40K games to prevent cross conversions.
You mean to literally make it impossible for anyone with normal-sized hands to paint them. Or assemble them. Or not crush them. (Not that I own a single LOTR model. Just saying... :p)

You mean to literally make it impossible for anyone with normal-sized hands to paint them. Or assemble them. Or not crush them. (Not that I own a single LOTR model. Just saying... :p)

I don't know about not being able to paint them, I have just bought a five 0 paintbrush for doing the eyes on my 40K minis so I could use that (hyperthetical as I too haven't any LOTR minis)

I don't know about not being able to paint them, I have just bought a five 0 paintbrush for doing the eyes on my 40K minis so I could use that (hyperthetical as I too haven't any LOTR minis)
I use a 0.1 (I guess that's mm) pen for that. At least on those few models that have gotten as far as receiving eyes (which usually is the last thing I do). I'm just glad that many models have helmets so I don't have to worry about that.

I use a 0.1 (I guess that's mm) pen for that. At least on those few models that have gotten as far as receiving eyes (which usually is the last thing I do). I'm just glad that many models have helmets so I don't have to worry about that.

well I only really do it on my charactors and unhelmeted SM, I won't send forever painting my guardsmans eyes otherwise it would take me forever, and it all ready takes me too long as it is.

well I only really do it on my charactors and unhelmeted SM, I won't send forever painting my guardsmans eyes otherwise it would take me forever, and it all ready takes me too long as it is.
I can hear ya.

I might have about 20-30 guys in basecoat, 5-10 done in my old painting scheme - none in the new. And doesn't look like that's gonna change anytime soon.

Right now, even if I could find the time - I don't have the nerve to paint. Too short-fused...

Right now, even if I could find the time - I don't have the nerve to paint. Too short-fused...

I know what you mean I have to be in the right mood to paint, nice and relaxed, with the TV or some music on in the background.

I know what you mean I have to be in the right mood to paint, nice and relaxed, with the TV or some music on in the background.
Exactly!

Plus, I don't have the space to set up a real painting area - so everytime I feel like painting, I have to make room, set it all up, and by the time that is done the mood usually is over again.

And I manage to cramp up my neck/shoulders in the painting process, too...

And I manage to cramp up my neck/shoulders in the painting process, too...

that is possibly due to you trying to hard to hold your hand steady and also to see the small parts. My advice is to relax the harder you strain the more your shake, also I have been looking for a decent magnifing stand/glass. The only problem with them is it takes abit of practice to get used to the lack of depth of field.

that is possibly due to you trying to hard to hold your hand steady and also to see the small parts. My advice is to relax the harder you strain the more your shake, also I have been looking for a decent magnifing stand/glass. The only problem with them is it takes abit of practice to get used to the lack of depth of field.
Very possible!
I got a "magnifying glass for stitching" that you can hang around your neck so you still have both hands free.
Bought it in the summer of 2002 and still haven't used it for its intended purpose... The way I make progress, I'll never finish the paint job ahead. :p

I'm currently trying to get some magnifying glasses that you can ware like ordinary glasses, they should give me a depth of field.

I play Fantasy. I am really just beginning, i have a smattering of this and that, but i am set on gathering Dark Elves. \/\/()()7 slavery.

well I only really do it on my charactors and unhelmeted SM, I won't send forever painting my guardsmans eyes otherwise it would take me forever, and it all ready takes me too long as it is.

I'm currently trying to plow through my Guardsmen. Damn, I really hate painting Guardsmen.

I'm currently trying to get some magnifying glasses that you can ware like ordinary glasses, they should give me a depth of field.

Go to an electronics supply site/store/etc. They carry similar items. I have some from work that I "borrowed".

I just bought Mark of Chaos. Eventhough it had potential I must say I was deeply dissapointed.:(

Wow, I have tons of Warhammer stuff that I collected over the course of of like 5 1/2 years or so. I havn't built any models or had a war with my friend in monthes. I have a pretty awesome army too:

1 Commander plus a few body guards

3 Storm Troopers

3 tactical squads? I have like 40 marines

1 devestator squad

1 Razorback (Old School)

1 Predator destructor (Old School)

1 Predator Annihilator (Also Old School)

1 Vindicare assassin

5 scouts

1 6-man squad of terminators

1 4-man bike squad

One of those hovercraft things

1 Dreadnaught

It's like a 2000 point Black Templar Army. I've never played at one of those nerdy game stores though surprisingly.

I also have a fair number of Cadian Imperial Guardsmen:

2 Commander guys

20-24 soldiers

1 Old School heavy machine gun

1 Nork Deddog Commander's body guard

1 other Ogryn

1 Chimera transport tank

2 Sentinals

5 rulebooks and various paints.

All and all, I'd say all my WH40k stuff has to be worth somewhere around 1000 dollars. I'm not a complete nerd who refuses to go outside or anything, I've just been collecting this stuff for a long time.

I know someone who's fairly well hooked on Warhammer, and tried to get me started playing it a while back. I looked into it, and found it to be prohibitively expensive.

My boyfriend, on the other hand, is the leader of WN's Dawn of War section. He really enjoys it, and would probably play Warhammer if he had the time.

found it to be prohibitively expensive

So terribly true. I probably wouldn't have started on it if I didn't have a year's worth of combat pay burning a hole in my pocket. Actually, I probably still would have. There's something about 40k that's irresistible to the nerd in me.

Don't play much anymore, but I have a TK and a Bretonnian army for fantasy. I also play WHRP, a little. Mostly I just get teh books and follow the background.

So terribly true. I probably wouldn't have started on it if I didn't have a year's worth of combat pay burning a hole in my pocket. Actually, I probably still would have. There's something about 40k that's irresistible to the nerd in me.
*dreams about what she could do with a year's worth of pay*

Lucky you. It seems like it'd be a lot of fun if I could afford it. Sadly, that day is not going to come anytime soon, so I'll just have to sit here and be envious.

*dreams about what she could do with a year's worth of pay*

Lucky you. It seems like it'd be a lot of fun if I could afford it. Sadly, that day is not going to come anytime soon, so I'll just have to sit here and be envious.

You'd be amazed how little you can do with a year's worth of pay, at least what the Army pays Corporals these days. Especially after using a good chunk of it to avoid getting student loans for my first year of college.

I'm a poor student these days so my purchases of Warhammer things has slowed drastically, but I bought the vast majority of my Imperial Guard in one shot when I got back from Iraq. However, Ebay does have some good deals from time to time, and I've managed to pick up some stuff really cheap there.

You'd be amazed how little you can do with a year's worth of pay, at least what the Army pays Corporals these days. Especially after using a good chunk of it to avoid getting student loans for my first year of college.
Oh, well if you're going to be all practical about it... Yeah, the first thing a year's worth of pay would go to, if I had it, would be to help pay off college loans.

I'm a poor student these days so my purchases of Warhammer things has slowed drastically, but I bought the vast majority of my Imperial Guard in one shot when I got back from Iraq. However, Ebay does have some good deals from time to time, and I've managed to pick up some stuff really cheap there.
Hmm. I hadn't thought to check on ebay. Oh well, even with ebay pricing I most likely wouldn't be able to afford an army.

Oh, well if you're going to be all practical about it... Yeah, the first thing a year's worth of pay would go to, if I had it, would be to help pay off college loans.

And sadly it doesn't even pay off many of them.


Hmm. I hadn't thought to check on ebay. Oh well, even with ebay pricing I most likely wouldn't be able to afford an army.

They're still not what most people would call "cheap". A quick perusal brought up a medium size Space Marine army for $150, but that's considered rather cheap. You'll usually pay about $300-400 for a largish unpainted army on Ebay. An army with mostly metal models will be rather more expensive. I can certainly understand not wanting to pay those sorts of prices, and I wonder quite often why I keep paying them.

You played Gav Thorpe? Did you win?:eek:

You spoke to Gav?!? And you played him, too?!? Wow.
Yeah, one of my cooler moments. He was at ‘Caledonian Conflict’, basically a miniature Games Day just for Scotland, a few years back. I played with him and a fellow plebeian gamer; single model per player. I used his Eisenhorn character, the one featured in his ‘How To Build An Inquisitor Warband’ articles in White Dwarf. I won, just. Methinks he wasn't playing in full competitive mode. :)

Cool, cool guy. Very friendly, very willing to chat at length about any GW-related stuff. This was just as LOTR was being announced, I think one or two models had been shown to the public, and we talked for quite a bit about what this would do to GW as a company. And how Dwarfs kicked ass.

apparently they are smaller for a reason. The people who gave GW the licence to do LOTR said that they had to be a differnt size as to prevent you using them and other GW peices for conversions.

However I do think that the price hikes are way out of proportion, I can understand paying £10 for a basic tactical squad but not £18.

It might give you an idea of when I built my Marines army... I used to buy the 5-piece squad boxes of marines for £2.50.

After the price hikes, I stopped buying for a while, until one of my friends started working at the warehouse in Nottingham.

Don't know what became of my miniatures, my friends 'back over there' might still have them... but, when I 'retired' from gaming, I was fielding about 20,000 points of Chaos Marines as my main army.

Those price hikes have really sucked they are why I've given up on collecting modles and foccusing more on the books...and WHRP2.

Those price hikes have really sucked they are why I've given up on collecting modles and foccusing more on the books...and WHRP2.

They even did the same thing there, though... when my copy of the WFRP rules wore out, I went back out and found the price had more than doubled...

I loved the table top wargaming - in the end I just couldn't afford it.

I always hoped GW would realise they were losing all their old gamers, and bring the prices (way) back down... but I guess they get enough new kids playing for a couple of months before they quit, that they've lost the need to cater to a continuous market.

used to play it one time ago till it all got a bit tad expensive and theese days much prefer to play flintloque

I used to play both. High Elves in warhammer, Night Lords in 40K, but the price increases have been extortionate, and White Dwarf has declined into little more than a painting guide for morons.

stop reading white Dwarf since GW stopped it form being a good RP magazine

stop reading white Dwarf since GW stopped it form being a good RP magazine

I believe I'm coming from the same position here....

I always lament the absence of Inquisitor, Index Astartes, and other background material, from the new White Dwarf.:(

GW was better before LOTR made it popular.....

I believe I'm coming from the same position here....

I always lament the absence of Inquisitor, Index Astartes, and other background material, from the new White Dwarf.:(

GW was better before LOTR made it popular.....

I'm of the same view, I only really get it now for the sake of getting it.

Those price hikes have really sucked they are why I've given up on collecting modles and foccusing more on the books...and WHRP2.

Fortunatly there is a huge amount of background, I myself am forever learning new things.

(...)
All and all, I'd say all my WH40k stuff has to be worth somewhere around 1000 dollars. I'm not a complete nerd who refuses to go outside or anything, I've just been collecting this stuff for a long time.
Same here. I can't even estimate how much all the stuff I own is worth.
(...)
There's something about 40k that's irresistible to the nerd in me.
The fluff.
I'm a poor student these days so my purchases of Warhammer things has slowed drastically, but I bought the vast majority of my Imperial Guard in one shot when I got back from Iraq. However, Ebay does have some good deals from time to time, and I've managed to pick up some stuff really cheap there.
I think I only bought about 5% of my models in the shops - the rest is eBay.
Yeah, one of my cooler moments. He was at ‘Caledonian Conflict’, basically a miniature Games Day just for Scotland, a few years back. I played with him and a fellow plebeian gamer; single model per player. I used his Eisenhorn character, the one featured in his ‘How To Build An Inquisitor Warband’ articles in White Dwarf. I won, just. Methinks he wasn't playing in full competitive mode. :)

Cool, cool guy. Very friendly, very willing to chat at length about any GW-related stuff. This was just as LOTR was being announced, I think one or two models had been shown to the public, and we talked for quite a bit about what this would do to GW as a company. And how Dwarfs kicked ass.
Sweet! Thanks for sharing.
It might give you an idea of when I built my Marines army... I used to buy the 5-piece squad boxes of marines for £2.50.
After the price hikes, I stopped buying for a while, until one of my friends started working at the warehouse in Nottingham.
Don't know what became of my miniatures, my friends 'back over there' might still have them... but, when I 'retired' from gaming, I was fielding about 20,000 points of Chaos Marines as my main army.
Okay, that is simply insane! :D
Those price hikes have really sucked they are why I've given up on collecting modles and foccusing more on the books...and WHRP2.
The books are great and whenever I start reading one, it's hard to put them back down.
The only thing about the Black Library is that for some odd (probably monetary) reason a lot of their books are out of print. Seriously, WTF?

Okay, that is simply insane! :D


You're not kidding. I had one person who fielded a similar value of Orks (now that is insane), and we required a floor to play on rather than a table...

Most of the games I played simply involved selecting parts of my army to field against similar opposition. I rarely got anything like the whole force active at the same time.

You're not kidding. I had one person who fielded a similar value of Orks (now that is insane), and we required a floor to play on rather than a table...
Can you say WAAAGH!!!?
Most of the games I played simply involved selecting parts of my army to field against similar opposition. I rarely got anything like the whole force active at the same time.
Emperor be praised!

Can you say WAAAGH!!!?


I can say it... but you don't want to be faced by it. :)

Seriously - 20k of Chaos Marines and various tools of destruction (like Robots and Dreads) is a thing of beauty, but it takes up half the front room. On the other hand, 20k of Orks really is WAAAAGH!, and it is just a ridiculous number of models. :(


Emperor be praised!

On the other side of the coin, I also ran several thousand points of 'loyal' marines... and a Marine/Eldar merc force. So, it wasn't all 'bad'.

I can say it... but you don't want to be faced by it. :)

Seriously - 20k of Chaos Marines and various tools of destruction (like Robots and Dreads) is a thing of beauty, but it takes up half the front room. On the other hand, 20k of Orks really is WAAAAGH!, and it is just a ridiculous number of models. :(
I wonder how anyone would be able to transport them safely from A to B.
On the other side of the coin, I also ran several thousand points of 'loyal' marines... and a Marine/Eldar merc force. So, it wasn't all 'bad'.
Good to hear that! I'm a little suspicious of those who only field Chaos forces somehow. :p

I wonder how anyone would be able to transport them safely from A to B.

It's called bubble wrap. Tons and tons of bubble wrap.

Both.

Empire and Chaos, in Wh, and 40k, respectively..

And sadly it doesn't even pay off many of them.




They're still not what most people would call "cheap". A quick perusal brought up a medium size Space Marine army for $150, but that's considered rather cheap. You'll usually pay about $300-400 for a largish unpainted army on Ebay. An army with mostly metal models will be rather more expensive. I can certainly understand not wanting to pay those sorts of prices, and I wonder quite often why I keep paying them.
Got nothing better to blow your money on?
I believe I'm coming from the same position here....

I always lament the absence of Inquisitor, Index Astartes, and other background material, from the new White Dwarf.:(

GW was better before LOTR made it popular.....
Over here, GW was popular then as it is now.
Oh don't get me wrong were expensive before LOTR and LOTR isn't the sole cause, however there has been more price hikes since it came out.

As for the size issue, the LOTR models are smaller than any warhammer fantasy/40K games to prevent cross conversions.
I'll have to check the prices next time i am around somewhere that stocks them.

Are the bases smaller?
I'm pretty sure i said it(or something similiar) in this thread before, but GW are greedy Money hungry corporate bastards.

I'm pretty sure i said it(or something similiar) in this thread before, but GW are greedy Money hungry corporate bastards.

I know, but it's like an addiction. I just can't help collecting them.

I know, but it's like an addiction. I just can't help collecting them.
It's recently been my dream to start up my own company and run them into the ground.
I was lucky enough to be too poor to buy them when i was more interested in them.
I might buy some more Bretonians but not right now because i am more interested in World War Two Kitsets which i buy once in a while, which isn't that often about once a year.

I wonder how anyone would be able to transport them safely from A to B.


Boxes. Lots of them. Often you can replace the assembled miniatures in their 'blister packs', with the little bit of foam padding for protection. Toolchests work quite well too... with all those little compartments.


Good to hear that! I'm a little suspicious of those who only field Chaos forces somehow. :p

Yes. And it really isn't necessary since lots of your Chaos force will be fairly normal - and so can function as generic Space Marines or Imperial Guards. I never played any of the 'big' Marine armies (Space Wolves, Dark Angels, etc), preferring a less 'corporate' idea - which also meant I could trade squads into and out of my Chaos force. :)

It's recently been my dream to start up my own company and run them into the ground.

I think Privateer Press is going to have a pretty good go at it. Or hopefully as PP expands GW will adjust the way they do business to remain competitive. PP's prices are tolerable and their customer service is great. Also, their rulesets (Warmachine and Hordes) are very well written.

I think Privateer Press is going to have a pretty good go at it. Or hopefully as PP expands GW will adjust the way they do business to remain competitive. PP's prices are tolerable and their customer service is great. Also, their rulesets (Warmachine and Hordes) are very well written.
I've never heard of Privater Press hopefully they can bust what i see as a GW monopoly.
The World War Two game 'Reign of Fire'(???) there prices are far worse than GW's and you get a whole lot less in a kit.
The pieces are tiny.

The LOTR is shit. It's one of the reasons why warhammer is so expensive. GW are making a loss on all the LOTR stuff they sell, and due to the contract they signed to be able to do it they have to stick with it. Making new models, making it one of the big games (on a par with the fantasy/40K) it has to have the same pormotion as the other games so most of the white dwarf mags are put over to LOTR.

It was never really popular, now they are just flogging a dead horse. I can't wait until the time when they stop making them. :mad:

Actually, it used to be very popular…

In my town, the two local hobby-pusher sold more LotR than Fantasy and 40K combined – and that’s a lot. There’s a reason why Kirby talks about a “LotR bubble”. As long as the films were hyped, LotR was a big seller, now however…

In any case, it hasn’t got anything to do with the prices. The prices are so high because we (the customers) are willing to pay it. It’s that simple. Remember that Games Workshop is a company that’s supposed to make money. And if we’re willing to pay $50 for five Terminators, then why should Games Workshop sell them for any less?
Wind you, this policy is about to backfire big-time. The price hikes, and the decline of White Dwarf, has driven many veterans away, and the prices are so high that few new players are recruited – and those who are seldom stay long…

I can hear ya.

I might have about 20-30 guys in basecoat, 5-10 done in my old painting scheme - none in the new. And doesn't look like that's gonna change anytime soon.

Right now, even if I could find the time - I don't have the nerve to paint. Too short-fused...

Yep. Then see some gifted bugger throw paint at them in seconds to produce what takes you weeks.....Bad for the blood pressure

It's called bubble wrap. Tons and tons of bubble wrap.
*pop* :D
Boxes. Lots of them. Often you can replace the assembled miniatures in their 'blister packs', with the little bit of foam padding for protection. Toolchests work quite well too... with all those little compartments.
I have one of those GW suitcases and a toolchest to store mine in - and many more boxes, lots of them. That still doesn't make it very easy to carry them around. :p
Yes. And it really isn't necessary since lots of your Chaos force will be fairly normal - and so can function as generic Space Marines or Imperial Guards. I never played any of the 'big' Marine armies (Space Wolves, Dark Angels, etc), preferring a less 'corporate' idea - which also meant I could trade squads into and out of my Chaos force. :)
:eek: Don't say that! That's heresy!!!

"Sir! I believe we've found the Chaos force!"

"Uhm, we're not Chaos marines, we're regular marines!"
"Are you sure?"
"Well, uh, no, not really. Although, last week..."

"Open fire!"
*Dakka Dakka!*
Yep. Then see some gifted bugger throw paint at them in seconds to produce what takes you weeks.....Bad for the blood pressure
If I saw that - bad for him... I've been looking for a painting slave for years, hehehe. :D

If I saw that - bad for him... I've been looking for a painting slave for years, hehehe. :D

Ranks of desks....big fat bruiser with a drum at one end..walking along delivering the odd lash of the whip....O yes....."Blend, you bastards...BLEND!!!!"

Ranks of desks....big fat bruiser with a drum at one end..walking along delivering the odd lash of the whip....O yes....."Blend, you bastards...BLEND!!!!"

lol

I couldn't have someone else paint my models for me, for me the painting and convertion side is what it is all about gaming comes secondary. In fact I haven't had a game in over 2 years.

I have one of those GW suitcases and a toolchest to store mine in - and many more boxes, lots of them. That still doesn't make it very easy to carry them around. :p


I never said it was easy. :) Fortunately, I managed in a lasertag venue, so we always had floorspace if we needed it, centrally located - and less than a minute walk from my place.


:eek: Don't say that! That's heresy!!!

"Sir! I believe we've found the Chaos force!"

"Uhm, we're not Chaos marines, we're regular marines!"
"Are you sure?"
"Well, uh, no, not really. Although, last week..."

"Open fire!"
*Dakka Dakka!*


Not heresy... Sometimes you fight with someone, sometimes against. That's the angle I went for... kind of freelancers who always believed they were fighting the good fight - always serving the Emperor, even when they were stamping on Space Wolves.

lol

I couldn't have someone else paint my models for me, for me the painting and convertion side is what it is all about gaming comes secondary. In fact I haven't had a game in over 2 years.

I don't mind the vehicles so much, its just when I see a high standard on the troops, everything I did becomes so much shite. Perfectionism, in a sense.

These days everybody wants a game, but with childer, work etc, nobody has the time. Maybe when we're 60/70....whiz around the table on the electric wheelchairs....

I don't mind the vehicles so much, its just when I see a high standard on the troops, everything I did becomes so much shite. Perfectionism, in a sense
'Eavy Metal Syndrome, I believe.

These days, I’m left to drool over the Forge World (http://forgeworld.co.uk/) models, fantasising about a Death Korps (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/DEATH_KORPS_OF_KRIEG.html) force.

'Eavy Metal Syndrome, I believe.

These days, I’m left to drool over the Forge World (http://forgeworld.co.uk/) models, fantasising about a Death Korps (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/DEATH_KORPS_OF_KRIEG.html) force.

Last model I got tempted towards was actually ungame related. This beauty....http://www.eliteminiaturas.com/Paginas/Catalogo/Ficha9.html


Only said "Perfectionism" has held me back.

'Eavy Metal Syndrome, I believe.

These days, I’m left to drool over the Forge World (http://forgeworld.co.uk/) models, fantasising about a Death Korps (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/DEATH_KORPS_OF_KRIEG.html) force.

Oooh, they are cool. Not cool enough to entice me back into the hobby, though... not unless they are waaaay cheap. :(

Oooh, they are cool. Not cool enough to entice me back into the hobby, though... not unless they are waaaay cheap. :(

54 Euro (32 Stg) for a squad of 10 plus sergeant.

54 Euro (32 Stg) for a squad of 10 plus sergeant.

Yeah - I saw the prices when I checked the second link... the models are gorgeous, but ridiculously expensive.

Given unlimited funds, I might....

Yeah - I saw the prices when I checked the second link... the models are gorgeous, but ridiculously expensive.

Given unlimited funds, I might....

Part of the appeal of warhammer it the day dreaming about what you would get if only you had the money, that and writing amry lists which you know full well that you will never use.

I have a 1500 pt Necron army that is pretty much devoid of Necrons. It's geared for CQB. Really fun to deepstrike my Monolith and Falyed Ones right in front of a Commisar.....

Part of the appeal of warhammer it the day dreaming about what you would get if only you had the money, that and writing amry lists which you know full well that you will never use.

Maybe I did it wrong then. :) I created some masterpiece army-lists, and then built them, played them, and refined them depending on tabletop performance.. I just didn't bother making lists for armies I wasn't going to field.

Similarly, I didn't put anything in an army list that I wouldn't buy, modify and paint... bit of a pain in the Imperial Guard army lists, because I disliked a lot of what was available. Seriously - did anyone ever field a "Sentinel" war walker?

I might have occassionally planned a big purchase, but GW lost me when they made the products so un-affordable.

I might have occassionally planned a big purchase, but GW lost me when they made the products so un-affordable.
Exactly. I don’t know any older gamer who still buys GW stuff, apart from the odd painting piece. Everyone I know sticks to the older games, we had a fantastic Blood Bowl tournie a wee while back, while our warrior band is currently in Deep 3 of a particularly sticky WHQ dungeon....

Exactly. I don’t know any older gamer who still buys GW stuff, apart from the odd painting piece. Everyone I know sticks to the older games, we had a fantastic Blood Bowl tournie a wee while back, while our warrior band is currently in Deep 3 of a particularly sticky WHQ dungeon....

It is a shame really. As someone else said, earlier... the 40k back story was always excellent. They sold out a perfectly good franchise, with loyal customers, in pursuit of a bigger profit margin and no repeat custom.

It doesn't seem to have hurt them too bad, though... these many years on. More's the pity.

Seriously - did anyone ever field a "Sentinel" war walker?

Well I have a couple of them, I like to us them as tank hunters and for flanking the enemiy. I quite like them, I also like mortars but I know they aren't the most affective. I tend to go more for an army which I like the look and feel of than one for powergaming. Not that that is wrong.

Ranks of desks....big fat bruiser with a drum at one end..walking along delivering the odd lash of the whip....O yes....."Blend, you bastards...BLEND!!!!"
Hiring now. No food, no sleep, no pay - and no screw-ups! :eek:
lol

I couldn't have someone else paint my models for me, for me the painting and convertion side is what it is all about gaming comes secondary. In fact I haven't had a game in over 2 years.
Me neither - that's why they're all still sitting there...
I never said it was easy. :) Fortunately, I managed in a lasertag venue, so we always had floorspace if we needed it, centrally located - and less than a minute walk from my place.
Sounds like the perfect place to unleash the hounds of war!
[/QUOTE]Not heresy... Sometimes you fight with someone, sometimes against. That's the angle I went for... kind of freelancers who always believed they were fighting the good fight - always serving the Emperor, even when they were stamping on Space Wolves.[/QUOTE]
Uhm... If the Inquisition knocks down your door...
How can you honestly say you're fighting the good fight for Him on Earth when you're going against Space Wolves! That is treason!!! :p
I don't mind the vehicles so much, its just when I see a high standard on the troops, everything I did becomes so much shite. Perfectionism, in a sense.
These days everybody wants a game, but with childer, work etc, nobody has the time. Maybe when we're 60/70....whiz around the table on the electric wheelchairs....
Hehe - I believe I said something along these lines. :)
'Eavy Metal Syndrome, I believe.
These days, I’m left to drool over the Forge World (http://forgeworld.co.uk/) models, fantasising about a Death Korps (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/DEATH_KORPS_OF_KRIEG.html) force.
Oh! The Death Korps is beautiful! *dreams*
Last model I got tempted towards was actually ungame related. This beauty....http://www.eliteminiaturas.com/Paginas/Catalogo/Ficha9.html
Only said "Perfectionism" has held me back.
It's a nice one!
Oooh, they are cool. Not cool enough to entice me back into the hobby, though... not unless they are waaaay cheap. :(
And strangely enough, Forge World models never show up on eBay!
54 Euro (32 Stg) for a squad of 10 plus sergeant.
I know... *weeps*
Yeah - I saw the prices when I checked the second link... the models are gorgeous, but ridiculously expensive.
Given unlimited funds, I might....
Who wouldn't...?

I've never heard of Privater Press hopefully they can bust what i see as a GW monopoly.
The World War Two game 'Reign of Fire'(???) there prices are far worse than GW's and you get a whole lot less in a kit.
The pieces are tiny.

http://www.privateerpress.com/

Their games are rather fun and their model quality has been improving by leaps and bounds. Their models are still a bit pricy but you only need 10 models or so unless you go really heavy on human infantry and light on warjacks.

http://www.privateerpress.com/

Their games are rather fun and their model quality has been improving by leaps and bounds. Their models are still a bit pricy but you only need 10 models or so unless you go really heavy on human infantry and light on warjacks.
These guys look pretty good but the others are a bit iffy, do they have any generic troops that one would get in a box?
http://privateerpress.com/images/ironkingdoms/miniatures/city_guard_RPG.jpg
http://privateerpress.com/images/ironkingdoms/miniatures/Ogrun_Fighter_RPG.jpg
http://privateerpress.com/images/ironkingdoms/miniatures/battle-chaplin_web.jpg

They did make a goood point about the cost of Tin but GW's prices have been high for ages.

I play 40K, 40K RT & Bloodbowl. I have some FB stuff as well, but never really played.

My first real army were 40K RT & 2nd ed. Orks. They quickly progressed from being a 'nilla band of Boiz, to being three distinct armies: Evil Suns, Nurgle Chaos Orks & Gitz. Unfortunately the only thing that still exists in any semi-official sense is the Evil Suns, but hey, house rules rules so I still use all three. The Evil Suns make up for about 3.5K. The Gitz run in at maybe 2.5K but only 2K as a fighting force, and the Rotten Ones is a small 1.5K force. The Boiz have always been & still are my favourite armies, though I don't use the Chaos Boiz much these days.

My secondary army is a small-ish Black Templar/Arbites army (around 2K), which started out as 'Stealer hunting planetary police, but after a great cover pic of Black Templars on a new rulebook & the consequent urge for painting a new, uncomplicated army, became Psyker hunters with Space Marine backup. Basically the Arbites have become BT scouts. Converted Chimeras have become Rhinos & so on. This force is almost as stylish as my Orks, but they're not all that interesting to play with outside RT (and you can't field that size army in RT & expect to finish the game in a lifetime).

And finally, I have the mutated remains of my old 'Stealer warband, which partially turned 'Nid when those were invented, and who're now wholly obsolete. The 'Stealer warband, however, is fully cohesive & painted, so it'll return from obscurity one of these days. My old Screamer-Killers, however, will prolly never leave the box in the attic again. Problem is, 'Nids never really appealed to me. I just like the 'Stealers. They were sort of like the Stalinists of 40K, hehe.

My RT warbands are Wraith Eldar, Plague Marines, and the already mentioned Orks, Arbitrators & 'Stealers. And even with something as fucking nasty as an all-Wraith band, I'm still getting my ass kicked all over the place by a mate's Muties. Life's so unfair...

I have two Bloodbowl teams. The useless (but hillarious) one is the Revolutionary Grot League, who apart from having Tabu's Little Green part of their team uniform (listening to RASH while painting & converting fucks up your minis every time. Don't try it at home), always end up getting eaten by their Troll. Tabu, of course, is the Coins & Cheerleaders coach; a converted 40K Slaver with hood, hard-on & shackles, whipping up the more-than-usually naked Dark Elf cheerleaders, hahaha.

The winning one is the Skavile Skavens. Nothing much to say about these guys, other than perhaps that I hate that I had to replace my old, now lost, Ratogre with a new FB one, because damn those things are ugly.. Especially since I only realised Mailorder exists a match later. It took me three weeks to make it look even slightly like a fat, hairless dancing Ratogre. Oh and.. Fur... I hate fucking fur! There's only 19 (presently) of the furry ones, yet when I repainted them (oven cleaner, by the way. Best paintstripper in the world. Even works on plastics) I think I fucked up 5 brushes. For a fucking team smaller than a Chaos Boiz squad! No wonder the shit makes cats puke.

Unlike some people in this thread, I enjoy unwinding with paints, putty, beer & Reggae, and obviously, the painting/converting thing is by far the most important aspect of it for me. Apart from the whole "Wow fuck, this shit's so much more fun when the terrain's well done, the armies look like they mean business & the character models & army structure makes sense", it's just pure therapy. Hippies do yoga (though I suspect even the chicks mostly do it for the chicks). I paint & convert minis. It's like shaving, only relaxing & not over in 5 mins.

do they have any generic troops that one would get in a box?

Not as such. You don't run with squads the way you do in 40k or WHFB. Where I live people play 500 or 750 point games, and the starter box comes with about 300 points. No one at my store has spent over $150USD and they have more units than will fit in a standard game. Surprisingly the things in the starter boxes are actually good options and the starter armies aren't bad at all. Quite unlike the GW Battleforce or Battalion boxes.

Check out this site for some more pics of models and a basic idea as to pricing. I have no idea where you'd buy them in NZ, but hopefully you can find a discount place like this one.

http://www.thewarstore.com/warmachine.html

Also, something that's kinda cool is that the Hordes and Warmachine systems are combinable, in that you can play a Hordes force against a Warmachine force, etc.