NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok, so with the President Speech, and his promise to increase troop levels. I've been thinking about this. The current Iraqi government is a sovereign government right? Well, why don't we let the Iraqi people decide if they want more of our troops in their country. Hell why not let them vote to see if they even want us in there! However, before they pass out the ballot, the Iraqi Government official must signed a document that has this line somewhere in the document.

"By signing this document, I the Sovereign government of Iraq do accept the the condition of this Contract, that if the Iraqi people vote that they release the United States military from it's duty to stabilize the nation, then we agree to the following. The Sovereign government of Iraq accept that if the United States Military force are voted out, that it would be up to the Iraqi government, Iraqi military forces, and all other forces of the Iraqi government to stabilize the region. We will not hold the United States government, citizens, or military responsible if Iraq collapse."

Just a thought.

Congratulations

This is what I've been saying for a year, minimum. I'd like to go one further though, and let each region decide. Kurdish areas want us? Alright. Shi'ite's dont? Later!

No, it would be much too sensible. The general consensus seems to be that they want us out, though.

Ok, so with the President Speech, and his promise to increase troop levels. I've been thinking about this. The current Iraqi government is a sovereign government right? Well, why don't we let the Iraqi people decide if they want more of our troops in their country. Hell why not let them vote to see if they even want us in there! However, before they pass out the ballot, the Iraqi Government official must signed a document that has this line somewhere in the document.

"By signing this document, I the Sovereign government of Iraq do accept the the condition of this Contract, that if the Iraqi people vote that they release the United States military from it's duty to stabilize the nation, then we agree to the following. The Sovereign government of Iraq accept that if the United States Military force are voted out, that it would be up to the Iraqi government, Iraqi military forces, and all other forces of the Iraqi government to stabilize the region. We will not hold the United States government, citizens, or military responsible if Iraq collapse."

Just a thought.

A great idea, but the country would collapse within months, if not weeks.

A great idea, but the country would collapse within months, if not weeks.

Which is why it won't happen.

A great idea, but the country would collapse within months, if not weeks.

Well, if they vote us out and signed the document, then who cares. If they think they can maintain their own country, then let them.

Well, if they vote us out and signed the document, then who cares. If they think they can maintain their own country, then let them.

The rest of the world. Well all the people supporting the US dollar, at any rate.

The rest of the world. Well all the people supporting the US dollar, at any rate.

Well the rest of the world seems to hate that we're in there anyways, so damn if you do, damn if you don't.

Well, if they vote us out and signed the document, then who cares. If they think they can maintain their own country, then let them.

I'm sure the people want us out, but the government wants us to stay since we're the only thing keeping them in power. In the event of a total US withdrawal then the government would most likely collapse, and a radical Islamist state would arise in its absense. It would be Iran all over again.

We've really fucked ourselves in this situation. We either stay, and continue to pour money and men down the toilet, or we leave and risk the event of a hostile state taking the place of the current government. It's a no win situation.

Well the rest of the world seems to hate that we're in there anyways, so damn if you do, damn if you don't.

Yes, but they are not inclined to do anything about it, because it is what it is. But, pulling out of Iraq prematurely would cause chaos which could spread to the greater middle east and effect their oil supplies. They may be inclined to do something about that.

I'm sure the people want us out, but the government wants us to stay since we're the only thing keeping them in power. In the event of a total US withdrawal then the government would most likely collapse, and a radical Islamist state would arise in its absense. It would be Iran all over again.

We've really fucked ourselves in this situation. We either stay, and continue to pour money and men down the toilet, or we leave and risk the event of a hostile state taking the place of the current government. It's a no win situation.

If only we could raise Saddam from the dead, and re instate him....or...go back in time make bush attack someone else...like....Andorra...we definitly can kick their asses

Funny how the general consensus in America, Iraq, the world, the Iraq Study Group, and the military is that we should leave (or at least begin to scale back), and yet Bush has sworn to stay even if his dog Barney alone supports him.

So much for spreading democracy...

Because the Iraqis will vote no, and Bush will look even more like the incompetent fool he is.

Funny how the general consensus in America, Iraq, the world, the Iraq Study Group, and the military is that we should leave (or at least begin to scale back), and yet Bush has sworn to stay even if his dog Barney alone supports him.

So much for spreading democracy...

It's a nice idea. The US wants to leave, the Iraqis want the US to leave, some otherwise unemployable dudes sat in a room for eight months and concluded we should leave. But.....

As I pointed out before, I imagine that there are other parties out there who reckon that leaving is not at all in their interest, and so the US shall stay most likely, regardless of congress or the public's feelings on this matter.

Moral of the story: Buy fewer novelty items on credit.

Also, is anyone else bothered by the media's constant parroting of the new buzzword 'surge'? If that doesn't prove what easily manipulated vapid piles of clothes they are, I don't know what does.

Moral of the story: Buy fewer novelty items on credit.

UGH! That's a whole topic in and of itself.

The baffling attitude of the U.S. consumer right now is just too much for me to wrap my head arond.

Also, is anyone else bothered by the media's constant parroting of the new buzzword 'surge'? If that doesn't prove what easily manipulated vapid piles of clothes they are, I don't know what does.

Agreed...I disliked the term since it started being used.

UGH! That's a whole topic in and of itself.

The baffling attitude of the U.S. consumer right now is just too much for me to wrap my head arond.

Yes, the behavior of the typical 'Harry Howmuchamonth' in this country frankly astounds me.

But it also goes to the heart of the matter. The same people who provide all the cheap and easy credit in the US for flat screen TVs and suicide option ARM mortgages - because god knows, it's an american right to borrow $800,000 for a house, regardless of income - are the same people who's oil supply we could royally screw by letting the ME descend into chaos. (It's fair to say that just abandoning Iraq has the potential to disrupt the entire area, and I'm sure they look at the aftermath of the US withdrawl from Vietnam as instructive).

I can't imagine them being to pleased if we do. And I imagine that US politicians grasp that the average voter will be highly displeased if the credit spigot suddenly tightens. Not to mention the assorted chaos with a rapid collapse in the price of the dollar. So at the end of the day, the democrats will make a stink, so honor is preserved, and go along with the plan anyway. (And any further plans that are needed to stop the situation from escalating).

I imagine most people think this is paranoid. But there it is.