NationStates Jolt Archive

Well, I had an epiphany. I think that my kingdom should step into the realm of Micronationalism. Yea, yea, I am sure many of you think this is stupid, and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, if anyone feels like they wish to participate, I started up some forums at:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/KingdomBartonstein/index.php

Take a look, feel free to join!

Your constitution is too long...it reminds me of Brazil's. :p

Are you going to keep paying taxes in your other country?

It is a bit legnthy, I was planning to edit it a bit so I will see if I can shorten it any.

You have to continue paying taxes until you can find a territory of your own.

*shudders at the first name Christian*

and what’s with all the German crosses :confused:

I wil possiblr paricipate, but only to end your reign of terror.

Our nation would more accurately be described as a loose confederation of micronations,. and sub microstates.

I wil possiblr paricipate, but only to end your reign of terror.

Yes I am an angry terrorist :mp5: Angry reign of terror! Arghh!

*shudders at the first name Christian*

and what’s with all the German crosses

I didn't choose it! I just find the design appealing.

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You have to continue paying taxes until you can find a territory of your own.
You have territory, just someone else claims that it is theirs. Happens all the time in International Politics.

Yea, but last time somebody tried to take major territory from America it didn't end so well. Other countries might be more receptive, like pacific islands.

Yea, but last time somebody tried to take major territory from America it didn't end so well. Other countries might be more receptive, like pacific islands.
You just have to take the territory from some place that Uncle Sam will never notice. Go out into the boonies and start your country there. Sure, X many people going missing on the same day may look suspicious, but what is the worst that can happen.

Waco.

Waco.
Touché turtle.

Thanks I suppose :D But anyway, nations like Tonga, that have a military of 400, really cant do that much. They can try to eject you, but if you dig in that wont happen. Alot of those nations also don't have the best government, I will use Tonga as an example again; they have a king, and most of the citizens don't like him. If he were to ever be deposed, the democratic front would support them.

America is not that easily defeated.

Thanks I suppose :D But anyway, nations like Tonga, that have a military of 400, really cant do that much. They can try to eject you, but if you dig in that wont happen. Alot of those nations also don't have the best government, I will use Tonga as an example again; they have a king, and most of the citizens don't like him. If he were to ever be deposed, the democratic front would support them.

America is not that easily defeated.
If you do it in Tonga, you have to call your nation Tango, if only to confuse the masses.

But you might want to try someplace that has some resources you can live off while you are still unofficial and considered a menace by the local government.

Well that's the thing. I can declare part of any country I want under my control. It can legally become mine, but many people believe other countries must recognize you in order to be a true country, this is simply not true.

exactly what part of the U.S. are you trying to claim?

this is where some Micros get a little greedy i think (*cough cough Septempontia*) if they are taking like an entire state or something.

Nothing in the US, just a small pacific island or one of the Canadian islands.

Well that's the thing. I can declare part of any country I want under my control. It can legally become mine, but many people believe other countries must recognize you in order to be a true country, this is simply not true.
All true. It is your sovereign land until someone forces you to claim otherwise. Although, until you reach 'official' status, the original country is going to try and 'show you the light'.
Nothing in the US, just a small pacific island or one of the Canadian islands.
The Canadian Islands (or even on the mainland in the North West Territories or Nunavut) will be fairly easy to startup without too much resistance. However, life there is quite hard, and most of your days will be spent fighting the cold.

The North of one of the provinces is probably harder to hold onto, but life is considerable easier.

Yes I am an angry terrorist :mp5: Angry reign of terror! Arghh!
you obvioulsy don't know what i was talking about.





wait, your post ha a gun smiley in it, thus lowering its merit to 0.

Well, since I am not a terrorist, or anyone generally evil, I suppose it is a good thing that that post has no merit.

All true. It is your sovereign land until someone forces you to claim otherwise. Although, until you reach 'official' status, the original country is going to try and 'show you the light'.

The Canadian Islands (or even on the mainland in the North West Territories or Nunavut) will be fairly easy to startup without too much resistance. However, life there is quite hard, and most of your days will be spent fighting the cold.

The North of one of the provinces is probably harder to hold onto, but life is considerable easier.

The beauty of it is that you don't have to live there for it to be yours.

A micronation has yet to gain the status of 'official'.

I'll join so long as I can be Queen regnant.

Queen consort?

But there's no power in Queen consort. Queen consort sucks.

You could be something else, some other high ranking government official.

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what’s with all the German crosses :confused:
I didn't choose it! I just find the design appealing.
Just like that nazi-quote you have in your signature, huh?

Look, It's a good quote. I'm not a Nazi, but I'm not the biggest fan of democracy, and I don't believe in helping people who don't try to help themselves.

And for the record, nobody is allowed to call me a troll.

Look, It's a good quote.
No, it's not.

I'm not a Nazi, but I'm not the biggest fan of democracy, and I don't believe in helping people who don't try to help themselves.
*shakes head disapprovingly*
Maybe you shouldn't quote Adolf Hitler like that if you don't want to be associated with nazis(m).
And for the record, nobody is allowed to call me a troll.
That's not for you to decide. If I wanted to call you a troll, don't believe I would ask for your permission first.

Look, It's a good quote. I'm not a Nazi, but I'm not the biggest fan of democracy, and I don't believe in helping people who don't try to help themselves.

And for the record, nobody is allowed to call me a troll.

Troll. Oh come on, you were asking for it.

I think it's and it is fine for me to think that. I don't go around telling other people what to think, everybody is entitled to their own belief, and I don't see why I should be different.

I think it's and it is fine for me to think that. I don't go around telling other people what to think, everybody is entitled to their own belief, and I don't see why I should be different.

Being entitled to your belief doesn't make it right.

Troll. Oh come on, you were asking for it.

Not intentionally, but if everyone is going to argue I won't hesitate to do the same.

What would make you right? Other than the fact that everybody thinks what they believe is right.

What would make you right? Other than the fact that everybody thinks what they believe is right.
History.

Where are we to go from here in time,
Do you see the future, do you know,
What can you expect from years to come,
And what can you do now to make it so,

All of history is there for you,
All the deeds done in the world are mad
If you don't know what has gone before,
You'll just make the same mistake again & again & again.

If you can't see what bloody fools we were,
Then you were also born a bloody fool,
Listen to the hundred million dead,
They didn't know it, but they died for you,

All you know is that you're young & tough,
Don't you think those millions thought the same,
If you don't know where it all went wrong,
You'll just make the same mistake again & again & again.

Read the books, learn to save your life,
How can you find the knowledge if you don't,
All the brave men died before their time,
You'll either be a hero, or you won't,

Don't you realize the ony way,
Is see why all those brave men died in vain,
If all that slaughter doesn't make you sad,
You'll just make the same mistake again & again & again.

America is a very young country, compared to many others. The Roman empire and the English empire lasted longer than we have been around.

America is a very young country, compared to many others. The Roman empire and the English empire lasted longer than we have been around.

What does that have to do with anything?

What does that have to do with anything?
My thoughts exactly! Glad I read the next page before typing the same.

It is that history means nothing. The Roman Empire was an autocratic regime that was doing quite well in its 231st year. What is to say that democracy won't die out in 500 years? The Roman Empire kept up their foolishness for about 1000.

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm not even trying to prove anything, just trying to qualify my statement.

You're honestly

I'm not even trying to prove anything, just trying to qualify my statement.

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It is that history means nothing. The Roman Empire was an autocratic regime that was doing quite well in its 231st year. What is to say that democracy won't die out in 500 years? The Roman Empire kept up their foolishness for about 1000.

?!?

Dude, that's fucked up!

History means nothing in the sense that it does not dictate the future.

History means nothing in the sense that it does not dictate the future.
History means everything in the sense that if you screw up the present although the past could've taught you something, you won't even have a future.

What does the past tell you on this subject?

You can learn from certain events pertaining to your current issue, but generalizations about subjects are not good.

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Stop bumping this shit-awful thread. Its really bad ettiquette.

Stop bumping this shit-awful thread. Its really bad ettiquette.

Dear god why are people complaining some much on thread? There is nothing wrong with resurrecting dead threads, if you don't want to follow the thread anymore it's your job to unsubscrbe.

I'll join, but I want a position of power.

How exactly are the citizens of the kingdom equals, when parliament, king & those without recognised citizenship are beyond the rule of law?

How exactly are the citizens of the kingdom equals, when parliament, king & those without recognised citizenship are beyond the rule of law?

It can be done if everyone is beyond the rule of law.

History means nothing in the sense that it does not dictate the future.

What dictate the future if not the past, and present? Sure there is some random elements, but most people believe in cause and effect.

It can be done if everyone is beyond the rule of law.Yet according to the his constitution, that's not the case. I freely admit I didn't read all the way through it (fairly long rant), but I did get that far.

*declares war on crappy micronation*

Your constitution is too long...it reminds me of Brazil's. :p
That's nothing compared to my state's constitution (http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeOfAlabama/Constitution/1901/Constitution1901_toc.htm). See that looong menu on the left hand side? Yeah, that's just the table of contents.

In fact, the Alabama Constitution is literally off the charts in terms of length:

http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/html/cons/features/0302_01/sizematters.gif

Look at the top-center of the image. Yeah, that sucks.