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Study at Oxford!

Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 19:44
My university is doing a summer program in which they take a bunch of people to Oxford and we study there. (I'm blown away as to how this makes the education in any way more meaningful since we're taking our professors with us, but whatever)

So, I'm just wondering, if you had a chance to go to England and study for a summer, would you? (this of course has little meaning to people who already live there, but if your sarcastic response is really good it will be shown proper respect for merit)

Room and board is like 1500 bucks, which the professor claims is really low for summer in Oxford.
The Tribes Of Longton
09-01-2007, 19:47
God no. I have to study here in England for 9 months of the year, why should I waste the other three doing the same?

:p
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 19:47
God no. I have to study here for 9 months of the year, why should I waste the other three doing the same?

:p

Ooh, good response I think. Do you like it all right? Lot's of cute girls? How expensive is beer? O.o
Call to power
09-01-2007, 19:55
Booo

University of Cambridge FTW!:p
The Blaatschapen
09-01-2007, 20:00
My university is doing a summer program in which they take a bunch of people to Oxford and we study there. (I'm blown away as to how this makes the education in any way more meaningful since we're taking our professors with us, but whatever)

So, I'm just wondering, if you had a chance to go to England and study for a summer, would you? (this of course has little meaning to people who already live there, but if your sarcastic response is really good it will be shown proper respect for merit)

Room and board is like 1500 bucks, which the professor claims is really low for summer in Oxford.

I'm sorry, I'm already helping other students to study here for 2 weeks in the summer :)
Ashmoria
09-01-2007, 20:03
My university is doing a summer program in which they take a bunch of people to Oxford and we study there. (I'm blown away as to how this makes the education in any way more meaningful since we're taking our professors with us, but whatever)

So, I'm just wondering, if you had a chance to go to England and study for a summer, would you? (this of course has little meaning to people who already live there, but if your sarcastic response is really good it will be shown proper respect for merit)

Room and board is like 1500 bucks, which the professor claims is really low for summer in Oxford.

YES
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 20:04
Booo

University of Cambridge FTW!:p

Oh shit, I'm going to be part of some strange English rivalry. Will I have to play cricket and drink tea in marathons?
Saint-Newly
09-01-2007, 20:07
Oh shit, I'm going to be part of some strange English rivalry. Will I have to play cricket and drink tea in marathons?

No, you'll need to row.

Row like you've never rowed before.
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 20:09
No, you'll need to row.

Row like you've never rowed before.

Ooh, right, you guys love that rowing gig. We've got a rowing team, but I dare say at 6'5" the boat would be a bit uncomfortable.

Is sculling the right word?
I V Stalin
09-01-2007, 20:10
Oh shit, I'm going to be part of some strange English rivalry. Will I have to play cricket and drink tea in marathons?
You won't have to play cricket. But your arm, leg and rib bones will be used to make the wickets if you don't.
RLI Rides Again
09-01-2007, 20:13
Oh shit, I'm going to be part of some strange English rivalry. Will I have to play cricket and drink tea in marathons?

You'll have to wear blue a lot, Oxford Blue to be precise. And don't even think about wearing Cambridge Blue, that's taboo.

As an Oxford reject I'm proud to support Cambridge. :p

EDIT: and if you value your life, don't insult tea, k?
Bodies Without Organs
09-01-2007, 20:14
Booo

University of Cambridge FTW!:p

Study at Oxford != Study at Oxford University.
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 20:16
Study at Oxford != Study at Oxford University.

Yeah I'm not really sure if it's Oxford or Oxford U.

I'll stock up on some Oxford blue sweaters if I do go (the whole price is 2500 excluding meals and transportation to England, so I'm not even sure it's even remotely likely)

I guess I'll have to learn to like tea because I despise it.

I dunno, I think I'd rather play rugby than cricket, but I'm willing to learn :D
I V Stalin
09-01-2007, 20:19
EDIT: and if you value your life, don't insult tea, k?
Apparently tea's not as good for you as was thought. There's a story about it on the BBC website somewhere.
Infinite Revolution
09-01-2007, 20:20
oxford doesn't deserve a sarcastic response. fuck oxford and it's staid conservative elitism. :p
RLI Rides Again
09-01-2007, 20:21
Apparently tea's not as good for you as was thought. There's a story about it on the BBC website somewhere.

Traitors!!! :mad:
RLI Rides Again
09-01-2007, 20:22
oxford doesn't deserve a sarcastic response. fuck oxford and it's staid conservative elitism. :p

They rejected you too huh? ;)
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 20:22
oxford doesn't deserve a sarcastic response. fuck oxford and it's staid conservative elitism. :p

EWWW! I dunno if I want to be surrounded by conservative British people, at least here in the South I can make fun of their use of language. I don't need people who have better vocabularies than me making fun of me!
Infinite Revolution
09-01-2007, 20:30
They rejected you too huh? ;)

nah i'm just being a dick :p. i had no illusions when i applied to unis. the best uni i applied to was durham but i turned them down for edinburgh, cuz it's a better city.

oh actually i applied to bristol too, but i didn't get an offer from them to turn down.
Chumblywumbly
09-01-2007, 20:46
nah i’m just being a dick :p. i had no illusions when i applied to unis. the best uni i applied to was durham but i turned them down for edinburgh, cuz it’s a better city.

oh actually i applied to bristol too, but i didn’t get an offer from them to turn down.
Yeah... booo to Oxbridge! Funny, I applied to Edinburgh and Glasgow, and Edinburgh turned me down.

I’m in good company; they did the same to David Hume.
Langenbruck
09-01-2007, 20:54
And not to forget - tea is not tea!

In England, you have to drink it with milk. As real Englishman, you should be able to balance your cup on one knee, balance a dish with cake on the other knee, eating your cake and drinking your tea and singing "Rule Britannia!". And you may not make a mess while doing so!
Infinite Revolution
09-01-2007, 21:24
Yeah... booo to Oxbridge! Funny, I applied to Edinburgh and Glasgow, and Edinburgh turned me down.

I’m in good company; they did the same to David Hume.

my sister got turned down by edinburgh too this year. despite applying for almost the same course as me and having better grades. but st. andrews accepted her. i'm sure it's all just random. there was a kid at my school who did ten A-levels getting straight As and got turned down by oxford. he was a total prodigy but ended up at warwick.
Isidoor
09-01-2007, 21:31
uhm paying to study during the holliday?

seriously, why, you could do way cooler stuff than that with 1500, going on a journey to an exotic island to relax or something. i mean the purpose of a holliday is to relax isn't it? (and to work for money and to do exams if you failed during the year - that's probably what i'll be doing )
Extreme Ironing
09-01-2007, 21:32
Booo

University of Cambridge FTW!:p

QTF.

Beware of the Dark Side.

(Surprisingly, I'm at Cambridge university at the moment. Oxford is actually quite a nice place....*gags, 'Must insult Oxford and follow stereotypical rivalries'*, but is clearly inferior.)
IL Ruffino
09-01-2007, 21:35
Tell Gatsby I said hello.
Saxnot
09-01-2007, 21:40
Egh. I'd give it a try just so you dispel whatever myths you believe about England. Or affirm them. Depending on which myths you believe.

Go for it, anyway. It'll be a good experience. And you'll be able to drink legally, if you aren't already.
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 23:10
I usually work during the summer, so going to classes in a new place would be a nice change.

I dunno, the price is actually 2500 (1500 is just boarding) the other 1000 is for various fees.

I then have to pay for a plane ticket to and from, and for my own food. And tuition, which is actually much cheaper than I thought it would be.

Anyway, I have to take Spanish this summer (something I forgot) in order to graduate at the end of next year, so I may not attempt this after all. Graduating is a much better idea than taking out what I'm sure would end up being a 5000 loan to pay for a trip to England.
IL Ruffino
09-01-2007, 23:16
I usually work during the summer, so going to classes in a new place would be a nice change.

I dunno, the price is actually 2500 (1500 is just boarding) the other 1000 is for various fees.

I then have to pay for a plane ticket to and from, and for my own food. And tuition, which is actually much cheaper than I thought it would be.

Anyway, I have to take Spanish this summer (something I forgot) in order to graduate at the end of next year, so I may not attempt this after all. Graduating is a much better idea than taking out what I'm sure would end up being a 5000 loan to pay for a trip to England.

If the credits transfer, go.
Fassigen
09-01-2007, 23:20
So, I'm just wondering, if you had a chance to go to England and study for a summer, would you?

Shit, no! England is bloody boring and generally unappealing. Scotland is where it's at.
Saxnot
09-01-2007, 23:22
Shit, no! England is bloody boring and generally unappealing. Scotland is where it's at.

Egh. Midges. And cold. Not that I don't want to visit, I'd just probably not want to live there.
LiberationFrequency
09-01-2007, 23:31
Shit, no! England is bloody boring and generally unappealing. Scotland is where it's at.

Scotland is a shithole, I know that England is full of wankers but Scotland was colonised by wankers it couldn't even find a decent country to get colonised by!
Fassigen
09-01-2007, 23:34
Scotland is a shithole, I know that England is full of wankers but Scotland was colonised by wankers it couldn't even find a decent country to get colonised by!

And still ten square metres of it have more character, ambiance and scenery than the entirety of England.
Bookislvakia
09-01-2007, 23:46
If the credits transfer, go.

I know for a fact the two classes taught by the professors from the US transfer, I'm not sure if I'd be taking any classes offered by Oxford.
Rameria
10-01-2007, 00:17
I say do it. Of course, I recommend studying abroad to everyone, I don't know anyone who regrets the experience.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 00:23
And still ten square metres of it have more character, ambiance and scenery than the entirety of England.

If you've been to anywhere in Scotland and London then I advise that next time you open your eyes.
Chumblywumbly
10-01-2007, 00:26
If you’ve been to anywhere in Scotland and London then I advise that next time you open your eyes.
London can be a fun city, but I much prefer Glasgow. Many reasons, but the big one is how friendly everyone is. People look at you funny in London if you say hello to them. Bizarre.
Infinite Revolution
10-01-2007, 00:49
Scotland is a shithole, I know that England is full of wankers but Scotland was colonised by wankers it couldn't even find a decent country to get colonised by!

nice paraphrasing :p
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2007, 00:49
Scotland is a shithole, I know that England is full of wankers but Scotland was colonised by wankers it couldn't even find a decent country to get colonised by!

Wankers? Who, the Irish?
Infinite Revolution
10-01-2007, 00:52
And still ten square metres of it have more character, ambiance and scenery than the entirety of England.

you're forgetting places like the lake district, the cotswolds, dartmoor, all of them beautiful in their own way. although scotland is better, obviously.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 00:52
If you've been to anywhere in Scotland and London then I advise that next time you open your eyes.

London is comparatively mediocre at best. More fit for tourists than for travellers, or those willing to spend an extended time some place nice. Scotland, on the other hand, has something not as underwhelming to offer.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 00:54
you're forgetting places like the lake district, the cotswolds, dartmoor, all of them beautiful in their own way.

I forget none of them, and it isn't for lack of trying. I just did not like England one bit, and despite several longer visits, it's never won me over.
Infinite Revolution
10-01-2007, 01:00
I forget none of them, and it isn't for lack of trying. I just did not like England one bit, and despite several longer visits, it's never won me over.

furry muff. i have only been to the lake district when it was bright sunshine, so i saw it at it's best, which is pretty rare. the cotswalds is pretty but there's nothing really there. english cities are shit though. although i'm told york is nice, and newcastle is supposedly even better for shopping than glasgow.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:02
London is comparatively mediocre at best. More fit for tourists than for travellers, or those willing to spend an extended time some place nice. Scotland, on the other hand, has something not as underwhelming to offer.

Underwhelming as the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world? Underwhelming in terms of things to do, see and experience?

I guess you're not a fan of any kind of culture (and I mean that in the broadest sense: from classical art to pop music) or architecture or hell, just having a good time then.

Samuel Johnson's advice to a friend who was considering ditching Scotland for London seems appropiate here: "Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."
Infinite Revolution
10-01-2007, 01:05
Underwhelming as the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world? Underwhelming in terms of things to do, see and experience?

I guess you're not a fan of any kind of culture (and I mean that in the broadest sense: from classical art to pop music) or architecture or hell, just having a good time then.

Samuel Johnson's advice to a friend who was considering ditching Scotland for London seems appropiate here: "Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."

i don't like london, it's too grey. london isn't the only place you can get all those things. it isn't even the best.
Rameria
10-01-2007, 01:09
Underwhelming as the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world? Underwhelming in terms of things to do, see and experience?

I guess you're not a fan of any kind of culture (and I mean that in the broadest sense: from classical art to pop music) or architecture or hell, just having a good time then.

Samuel Johnson's advice to a friend who was considering ditching Scotland for London seems appropiate here: "Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."
Eh. I liked London well enough when I visited, but there wasn't anything about it that would make me want to live there for extended periods of time. As for culture, having a good time and being cosmopolitan, London is far from being the only city in the world where you can experience those things.

I much prefer Paris, myself.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:09
Underwhelming as the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world?

It most certainly is not "the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world". In that department it gets its ass handed to it by numerous cities. And I hate to break it to you, but London isn't exactly the cultural capital of the world, either. Well, unless one thinks the West End is "culture"...
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:11
i don't like london, it's too grey. london isn't the only place you can get all those things. it isn't even the best.

I'd be hard pushed to name anywhere better for those things. Certainly there's nowhere in the UK that could compete.
Hydesland
10-01-2007, 01:12
Fass, I suggest you come down to my home city Brighton, by the sea. It is apparently the gay capital of europe and there is this huge gay pride every year. It's also very 'camp' in parts if you know what I mean....
Congo--Kinshasa
10-01-2007, 01:12
So, I'm just wondering, if you had a chance to go to England and study for a summer, would you?

No, no, and no.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:13
It's most certainly is not "the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world". In that department it gets its ass handed to it by numerous cities. And I hate to break it to you, but London isn't exactly the cultural capital of the world. Well, unless one thinks the West End is "culture"...

If London is so lacking in those departments I'd love for you to name the cities that beat it for both vibrancy and culture.
Forsakia
10-01-2007, 01:15
Shit, no! England is bloody boring and generally unappealing. Scotland is where it's at.

I feel obliged to mention Wales here, we're, um, well, a sort of budget version of Scotland really.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:16
Fass, I suggest you come down to my home city Brighton, it is apparently the gay capital of europe and there is this huge gay pride every year.

I've been to Brighton several times, and it's meh, the town itself. I did enjoy the gay scene there (very, very much, indeed - why do you think I keep returning?), but it's far, far from being "the gay capital of Europe". For that, you'll have to go some place like, say, Barcelona.
Hydesland
10-01-2007, 01:16
It most certainly is not "the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world". In that department it gets its ass handed to it by numerous cities. And I hate to break it to you, but London isn't exactly the cultural capital of the world, either. Well, unless one thinks the West End is "culture"...

London is too big, and the west end is too small to generalize about it's culture. If you go to the right parts of london, it can be just amazing. Out of all the cities I have been to in europe, London is still my favourite. The other cities seem a bit more monocultural then the multicultural london, where you can basicly experience most types of culture in the world.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:18
If London is so lacking in those departments I'd love for you to name the cities that beat it for both vibrancy and culture.

Oh, easy. New York. Montréal. Hong Kong. Shanghai. Even Paris and Rome. I could name more, but you get the point.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:20
London is too big, and the west end is too small to generalize about it's culture. If you go to the right parts of london, it can be just amazing. Out of all the cities I have been to in europe, London is still my favourite. The other cities seem a bit more monocultural then the multicultural london, where you can basicly experience most types of culture in the world.

I shall assume you've never been to North America or Asia (or Brazil). Contrary to popular belief, Europe isn't the world, and that little island off its Western coast isn't the centre of it or Europe.
Infinite Revolution
10-01-2007, 01:21
I feel obliged to mention Wales here, we're, um, well, a sort of budget version of Scotland really.

lol :D
Hydesland
10-01-2007, 01:21
I shall assume you've never been to North America or Asia (or Brazil). Contrary to popular belief, Europe isn't the world, and that little island off its Western coast isn't the centre of it or Europe.

Whoops I thought we were only talking about cities in Europe.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:23
I feel obliged to mention Wales here, we're, um, well, a sort of budget version of Scotland really.

I've never been to Wales. At least I don't think, as I know so little about it and of it, that I'm not sure what places it encompasses, really. It's like it blends unnoticeably into England.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:23
Oh, easy. New York. Montréal. Hong Kong. Shanghai. Even Paris and Rome. I could name more, but you get the point.

I think you could make it in the highly competitive world of comedy with material like this. The first city is the only one that isn't hilarious. I lived in Paris for a year and there was nothing to do if you weren't a tourist. I've heard the same of Rome and I'd dare to venture that people aren't flocking to Shanghai for its plays.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:24
I've never been to Wales. At least I don't think, as I know so little about it and of it, that I'm not sure what places it encompasses, really. It's like it blends unnoticeably into England.

Self-appointed expert on England shows off his credentials here.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:25
Whoops I thought we were only talking about cities in Europe.

He wrote that London was "the most vibrant, cosmopolitan city in the world". You can see why I don't agree. It's a pretty big global village out there.
Hydesland
10-01-2007, 01:25
Self-appointed expert on England shows off his credentials here.

Take it easy momomomomomomo. Fass is not someone you want to be pissing off.
Lacadaemon
10-01-2007, 01:27
Newcastle is more fun than London.
Rameria
10-01-2007, 01:30
I think you could make it in the highly competitive world of comedy with material like this. The first city is the only one that isn't hilarious.
All of the cities named by Fass are vibrant and cultured, albeit to varying degrees. I'm not saying London is a bad place, but it's not the only city in the world with culture. Have you been to all the places mentioned by Fass?

I lived in Paris for a year and there was nothing to do if you weren't a tourist.
I'm sorry, but that's laughable. You must not have looked very hard.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 01:32
I think you could make it in the highly competitive world of comedy with material like this. The first city is the only one that isn't hilarious. I lived in Paris for a year and there was nothing to do if you weren't a tourist.

And you speak of the comedy of others?

I've heard the same of Rome and I'd dare to venture that people aren't flocking to Shanghai for its plays.

Rome and Paris have excellent operas and great music scenes, not to mention art and architecture. London cannot compete in any of those (oh, and no, mindless rave-ish clubs and paralysingly shallow pop don't count, not to mention the chavish influences that are spreading like cancer, and unwelcoming Big Brother aspirations of those bloody ubiquitous CCTV cameras). Montréal's gay scene, and the creativeness that follows thereof, I find can hold a candle to even San Francisco (and it has the boon of being francophone), and, well, only someone who hasn't been to China would accuse one of its major cities to be lacking in culture of the most exotically appealing kind.

Boring old London compete with any of them? Get a grip.

Self-appointed expert on England shows off his credentials here.

Oh, I seem to have stepped on someone's toe.
Hydesland
10-01-2007, 01:38
Rome and Paris have excellent operas and great music scenes, not to mention art and architecture. London cannot compete in any of those (oh, and no, mindless rave-ish clubs and paralysingly shallow pop don't count, not to mention the chavish influence that are spreading like cancer, and unwelcoming Big Brother aspirations of those bloody ubiquitous CCTV cameras). Montréal's gay scene, and the creativeness that follows thereof, I find can hold a candle to even San Francisco (and it has the boon of being francophone), and, well, only someone who hasn't been to China would accuse one of its major cities to be lacking in culture of the most exotically appealing kind.


If you are going by the music scene, london has one of the most highly regarded music scenes in europe, if not the world, with many legendary artists emerging from london. It's only certain parts of london which are full of raves and clubs all over the place, london probably has one of the most extensive underground scenes in europe since so many different types of musicical communites collect there. London and Paris are probably drawing when it comes to the best Jazz scene in europe, though I prefer the more gritty London Jazz. As for theatrical productions, i'm not so sure but london has a very highly regarded past in theatre ever since Shakespear.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:39
And you speak of the comedy of others?



Rome and Paris have excellent operas and great music scenes, not to mention art and architecture. London cannot compete in any of those (oh, and no, mindless rave-ish clubs and paralysingly shallow pop don't count, not to mention the chavish influences that are spreading like cancer, and unwelcoming Big Brother aspirations of those bloody ubiquitous CCTV cameras). Montréal's gay scene, and the creativeness that follows thereof, I find can hold a candle to even San Francisco (and it has the boon of being francophone), and, well, only someone who hasn't been to China would accuse one of its major cities to be lacking in culture of the most exotically appealing kind.

Boring old London compete with any of them? Get a grip.



Oh, I seem to have stepped on someone's toe.

'Stepping on my toe' in terms of not knowing England well enough to distinguish it from a whole different country but well enough to dismiss it. And please, comparing "rave-ish clubs" to opera in an attempt to make people believe that London has none of the former and Paris + Rome have none of the latter. London has covent garden, the Tate, some of the most exciting new bands in the world, endless museums and galleries and its the best city in the world in which to take a walk or go to the park.
Chumblywumbly
10-01-2007, 01:40
I feel obliged to mention Wales here, we’re, um, well, a sort of budget version of Scotland really.
:D Fantastic! I like Wales a lot, beautiful place. Especially around Snowdonia.

As for vibrant European cities (as, sadly, I cannot comment on cities outside Europe), I enjoyed Paris, Barcelona is fandiddlytastic, but personally enjoyed every single second of my time in Berlin. Such a cultured, laid-back, friendly, beautiful, inspiring city.

Es ist sehr gut.
The Scandinvans
10-01-2007, 01:42
God no. I have to study here in England for 9 months of the year, why should I waste the other three doing the same?

:pCan to the U.S. and drink all the booze you can get and wander into a recuritment office where they send you off to Iraq, after you see their standard issue weapon of your choice, and have some fun there raping brown girls. *Pardoy reasons from Family Guy*
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 01:45
As for vibrant European cities (as, sadly, I cannot comment on cities outside Europe), I enjoyed Paris, Barcelona is fandiddlytastic, but personally enjoyed every single second of my time in Berlin. Such a cultured, laid-back, friendly, beautiful, inspiring city.

Es ist sehr gut.

Barcelona was wonderfully regenerated by the Olympics and, more recently Berlin has become a wonderfuly city too. I truly hope Berlin can continue to develop as it has.
Chumblywumbly
10-01-2007, 01:51
Barcelona was wonderfully regenerated by the Olympics
That’s a turn-up for the books!

more recently Berlin has become a wonderfuly city too. I truly hope Berlin can continue to develop as it has.
Indeed. I can’t rave on enough about Berlin.

Went to a great club in Alexanderplatz; ‘Kinzo’ I believe it was called. Went in at 11pm, got out at 8 in the morning, and some of the regulars turned round, saying: “Are you not coming to ze after part, nein?”

:fluffle: That fluffle is especially for you Berlin. And I don’t give out my fluffles lightly.
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 02:02
'Stepping on my toe' in terms of not knowing England well enough to distinguish it from a whole different country but well enough to dismiss it.

Funny, as I wrote that I didn't know enough about Wales to distinguish it from England. But, do resort to creative reading to construe my acknowledgement of ignorance about Wales to be all about England. It's quite in your character to assume England to be that central, it would seem.

And please, comparing "rave-ish clubs" to opera in an attempt to make people believe that London has none of the former and Paris + Rome have none of the latter.

Oh, Rome and Paris have many clubs, but they are of much higher quality than those of London, which are stuck in some sort of Ministry of Sound emulative rut.

London has covent garden, the Tate,

Of which both are plain old dull. The Tate. Pfft! :rolleyes: Centre Georges Pompidou/Beaubourg has it beat by lightyears.

some of the most exciting new bands in the world,

Sure, if your idea of exciting is "Keane".

endless museums and galleries and its the best city in the world in which to take a walk or go to the park.

There you are again with "best city in the world". Shows just how limited your travels must have been.
Momomomomomo
10-01-2007, 02:08
I'm sensing a pattern - I suggest something such as that London has, and has always had a vibrant music scene with exciting bands emerging from it (and unless your music tastes are very niche you probably agree) and Fass lists something that isn't vibrant. Such as Keane.

Of course, he notes that on a discussion that started out with his beliefs on the subject of England vs Scotland that my finding anything odd with his fleeting grasp of Britain (i.e missing out a whole country) must be some kind of ethnocentric nightmare.
The Black Aurora
10-01-2007, 02:11
I've been to Brighton several times, and it's meh, the town itself. I did enjoy the gay scene there (very, very much, indeed - why do you think I keep returning?), but it's far, far from being "the gay capital of Europe". For that, you'll have to go some place like, say, Barcelona.

Heh, read this thread and wanted to reply for a couple of reasons. One, I go to Brighton University and study Pharmacy, first year... on that, Cambridge nor Oxford offer the course and it has been something I have wanted to study for a couple of years. I suppose it's far too vocational and 'common' maybe? I don't think much of either of them as far as their reputations go and I have never been the type to work hard for great yields, but the students I've met from Oxford weren't as stuck up as I imagined they would be. I wouldn't say they were 'pleasant' people, but they weren't rude to me, which is always a good thing in my book.

I love Brighton though - it's far from the most attractive city in England - but everyone is so nice and laid back. Compared to London and Birmingham, I would live in Brighton anytime.

The gay scene in Brighton leaves a lot to be desired for. Nice clubs, brilliant pubs, excellent people and although I'm not gay myself (even though I have been tempted by a few men since arriving) I have to say it should be bigger. The biggest clubs in Brighton didn't impress me and although I wasn't expecting to go to the gay bars, I prefer them to a lot of other clubs and bars in Brighton. Perhaps the Gay Capital of the UK? I would say it was the LA of the UK anyway. It's just so open minded and bizarre.
Rameria
10-01-2007, 02:14
:D Fantastic! I like Wales a lot, beautiful place. Especially around Snowdonia.

As for vibrant European cities (as, sadly, I cannot comment on cities outside Europe), I enjoyed Paris, Barcelona is fandiddlytastic, but personally enjoyed every single second of my time in Berlin. Such a cultured, laid-back, friendly, beautiful, inspiring city.

Es ist sehr gut.
Berlin is great. I haven't spent a lot of time there, but I really enjoyed it. Still not my favourite city in Europe, but very nice. :)
Fassigen
10-01-2007, 02:16
I'm sensing a pattern - I suggest something such as that London has, and has always had a vibrant music scene with exciting bands emerging from it (and unless your music tastes are very niche you probably agree) and Fass lists something that isn't vibrant. Such as Keane.

And I'm sensing a pattern where you think by repeating a ridiculous hyperbole about "best in the world" about anything in London you're somehow presenting an argument.

Of course, he notes that on a discussion that started out with his beliefs on the subject of England vs Scotland that my finding anything odd with his fleeting grasp of Britain (i.e missing out a whole country) must be some kind of ethnocentric nightmare.

No, seems more like hurt pride and sense of nationalism on your part.
Katganistan
10-01-2007, 02:23
My university is doing a summer program in which they take a bunch of people to Oxford and we study there. (I'm blown away as to how this makes the education in any way more meaningful since we're taking our professors with us, but whatever)

So, I'm just wondering, if you had a chance to go to England and study for a summer, would you? (this of course has little meaning to people who already live there, but if your sarcastic response is really good it will be shown proper respect for merit)

Room and board is like 1500 bucks, which the professor claims is really low for summer in Oxford.

GO.
Nadkor
10-01-2007, 02:29
If it wasn't for the fact that I have to visit some family every now and then, I wouldn't go near London.

Or, to be honest, anywhere in England, really.

Scotland and Ireland are where it's at (specifically Belfast, but I would say that...)
Chumblywumbly
10-01-2007, 02:43
GO.
I concur. Your professor is correct Bookislvakia , $1500 is really cheap.
Bookislvakia
10-01-2007, 03:35
I concur. Your professor is correct Bookislvakia , $1500 is really cheap.

Well, I'm going to go bug my professor tomorrow and see if there's some grant or scholarship that can help pay for it, because I can't afford it at all. I mentioned somewhere that it's $2500 base cost, I was just remarking that he said that $1500 was cheap boarding.

I really want to go, but I've got a language deficiency in my credits, I've got to have two years worth of Spanish before I can graduate. I dunno if they teach Spanish at Oxford or if I could take it there. More stuff to ask him tomorrow I guess!

I'm going to attempt this though, it might be my only chance to get out of the US for a bit and see some of the rest of the world...you know, one place ;)

(we would be going on tours)
The blessed Chris
10-01-2007, 11:51
Oxfords alright. A little too public school for my tastes, but acceptable.