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Anyone seen it yet? What are your thoughts? I just got back from a showing and was throughly impressed. I can't believe this hasn't been getting more press than it has. Sure it's been getting rave reviews, but I was the only one in the theatre. Probably one of the best movies I've ever seen imo.

Anyone seen it yet? What are your thoughts? I just got back from a showing and was throughly impressed. I can't believe this hasn't been getting more press than it has. Sure it's been getting rave reviews, but I was the only one in the theatre. Probably one of the best movies I've ever seen imo.
I felt the same way about The Fountain...

As for CoM, I'd been interested in it since I first read about the novella it was based on. Haven't gotten a chance to see a movie lately, though.

There were a few people when I saw "The Fountain" although we all left with a face of "what the..." and it's not that the movie is bad, just complex. So it was good.

I haven't seen Children of Men yet.

I liked it a lot. Bah, I almost put a spoiler in...

That long shot was freakin' amazing.

Meh, I suppose it was nicely done and such, but the subject matter was too heterosexist for my liking, not to mention improbable.

I was stunned by CoM, I found it really moving. I also thought that as a possible future, it was not so far removed from so many things happening now, which was just scary.

Meh, I suppose it was nicely done and such, but the subject matter was too heterosexist for my liking, not to mention improbable.

Could you not suspend your disbelief long enough to enjoy the movie?

Anyone seen it yet? What are your thoughts? I just got back from a showing and was throughly impressed. I can't believe this hasn't been getting more press than it has. Sure it's been getting rave reviews, but I was the only one in the theatre. Probably one of the best movies I've ever seen imo.

I haven't seen it yet.

I only started seeing ads for it a couple of days before it came out, so I don't think many people (at least in my area) even know about it.

Too bad, because everything I've read indicates that it is an excellent film.

I'll probably go see it this weekend.

Could you not suspend your disbelief long enough to enjoy the movie?

Not when I'm constantly bombarded with the inanity of "appreciate the results of our superior and oh, so crucially unexpendable heterosexuality, dammit!!!!" the entire time.

Not when I'm constantly bombarded with the inanity of "appreciate the results of our superior and oh, so crucially unexpendable heterosexuality, dammit!!!!" the entire time.

If you knew the subject matter would offend you why did you go see it?

If you knew the subject matter would offend you why did you go see it?

Because I don't shun away from things that offend me. I like to think I have more character than that.

If you knew the subject matter would offend you why did you go see it?
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If you knew the subject matter would offend you why did you go see it?
Because Fass loves to seethe indignantly at things that offend him.
It's his blessing and his burden.

I liked it a lot. Bah, I almost put a spoiler in...

That long shot was freakin' amazing.

Wait, what shot...


Ohh, the one at the end? Very good film actually, I think I'll pick it up on Dvd when it comes out. Has it just got a cinema release over there? Its been out for months here. :p

Wait, what shot...


Ohh, the one at the end?
No, the big battle scene with all it entailed. That was one very long shot.


I saw it a couple of months ago (Europe) and think it's fantastic.

I wasn't bothered too much by the fact that the reason for the infertility is never explained - just accept it and move on. It's not like any explanation they could come up with would be "believable" anyway.

It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen, it was maybe a bit too conventional to be that, but it was one of the movies to stay with me the longest.
The reactions of the people in the battle scene (trying hard not to spoiler anyone ;p) were impressive and the way violence was filmed blew me away - very intense and direct and real, for a better lack of the world. The ambush? Fantastic and deeply disquieting. One of the most viscerally impressive scenes I've ever seen. Ever.

I would definitely recommend it to anyone, and I can't understand why it's been so notably absent from the US award season nominations so far.
It can't really be because of the late US start date seeing how half of the raved-about movies aren't even out yet. Hmm.

Anyway, go see it already!

I've never even heard of this movie…

Has it just got a cinema release over there? Its been out for months here. :p

Premiered nationwide only last Friday.

No, the big battle scene with all it entailed. That was one very long shot.


I saw it a couple of months ago (Europe) and think it's fantastic.

I wasn't bothered too much by the fact that the reason for the infertility is never explained - just accept it and move on. It's not like any explanation they could come up with would be "believable" anyway.

It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen, it was maybe a bit too conventional to be that, but it was one of the movies to stay with me the longest.
The reactions of the people in the battle scene (trying hard not to spoiler anyone ;p) were impressive and the way violence was filmed blew me away - very intense and direct and real, for a better lack of the world. The ambush? Fantastic and deeply disquieting. One of the most viscerally impressive scenes I've ever seen. Ever.
Yeah, I think that's the one I meant. A bit before the end, with the main scene of the whole film in? Trying not to spoiler here too :P
Premiered nationwide only last Friday.

Fair enough. I'm used to films coming out either simultaneously or over there first, I guess.

I saw it some time in the september, a very good film. Good acting, complex and compelling storyline, and an interesting view of the future.

It's ok. There were some nice touches (the London 2012 shirt that whosisface wore all the time), but it's fairly predictable and too long. I swear they only put in the long shot to keep people like me, who were bored because they knew exactly where it was going but thought it was taking too long, interested.

Anyway, go see it already!
How much are they paying you?
Trying not to spoiler here too :P

You know you could just use tags?
[spoiler]See, they're awesome

How much are they paying you? Not enough. :(

You know you could just use tags?
[spoiler]See, they're awesome
I never knew how to do those but now I know. :fluffle:

I've never even heard of this movie…

It's a story of a near-future dystopian world where for reasons unknown, people lose the ability to procreate. Apparently it had gone on a while because there was a news report as part of the theatrical trailer of the 'world's youngest living person' dying at age 18. Then the lead actor is brought in by his ex-wife on a desperate mission to get a pregnant woman to the scientists who are trying to cure the worldwide calamity. *nod*

It's a story of a near-future dystopian world where for reasons unknown, people lose the ability to procreate. Apparently it had gone on a while because there was a news report as part of the theatrical trailer of the 'world's youngest living person' dying at age 18. Then the lead actor is brought in by his ex-wife on a desperate mission to get a pregnant woman to the scientists who are trying to cure the worldwide calamity. *nod*
It might be a desperate mission, but it's desperate in a very British way.

Oh, and you forgot that it has Michael Caine in it as a stoned hippy. It's a role that rivals David Bowie as Nikola Tesla in The Prestige.

I found it a bit boring, and (as Fass already pointed out) ploddingly heterosexist. Considering how critically over-populated our planet is right now, it's also hard for me to get worked up over the idea of declining population.

It's not so much that the politics "offended" me or anything like that, it's just that the themes were so predictable. Oh noes, think of the baybees! There's already such hand-wringing over how women aren't making enough babies (at least not enough healthy white babies) that I've kind of gotten numb to that particular refrain.

On the positive side, I like how it was shot and a lot of the style to the film. I think different moods, and the over-all tone, were very well captured.

Also, from the standpoint of believability, I found it interesting that in the book it is male humans who become infertile (sperm counts drop to zero for some reason), but in the movie they changed it so that women are the ones who are infertile. I think that was probably a good move for a film made in this day and age, since we are already on the verge of being able to use two human eggs to create a baby and thus zero sperm counts wouldn't be a problem for very long.

And in terms of the heterosexism, if you think the movie was bad then the book would really send you over the falls. In the book, women are so distraught over their lack of babies that they do things like baptizing pets and dressing them up in baby clothes. Men, of course, do none of this, because only women like babies. Nobody is interested in sex any more because they can't make babies by having sex. Women are even losing the ability to orgasm (presumably because women only derive sexual pleasure from procreating). Naturally I found all of this hilarious, as somebody who loves sex and never wants babies. :D

I found it a bit boring, and (as Fass already pointed out) ploddingly heterosexist. Considering how critically over-populated our planet is right now, it's also hard for me to get worked up over the idea of declining population.

It's not so much that the politics "offended" me or anything like that, it's just that the themes were so predictable. Oh noes, think of the baybees! There's already such hand-wringing over how women aren't making enough babies (at least not enough healthy white babies) that I've kind of gotten numb to that particular refrain.

Oh, certainly. For me, the movie didn't conjure up those thoughts, though, because it's not about a declining population or women not making enough babies but about a rather different (if improbable) scenario: that of mankind knowing it will have disappeared, completely, not even a hundred years hence.

That's what caught and kept my interest - the question of how humans would react to that, what they would do in that situation. Everything sinking into chaos and everybody fighting for themselves and more or less losing their humanity seemed a quite plausible outcome.

Oh, certainly. For me, the movie didn't conjure up those thoughts, though, because it's not about a declining population or women not making enough babies but about a rather different (if improbable) scenario: that of mankind knowing it will have disappeared, completely, not even a hundred years hence.

That's what caught and kept my interest - the question of how humans would react to that, what they would do in that situation. Everything sinking into chaos and everybody fighting for themselves and more or less losing their humanity seemed a quite plausible outcome.
I do think that the theme you are describing was captured quite well.

There's a book I read a while back that addressed a similar idea from kind of another angle. (I'm totally blanking on the title for some reason, but I'll try to remember it asap.) In this story, researchers have discovered a drug that will allow a human being to live forever, never aging from the time they took the drug, and with greatly increased healing and immunity. However, there are several very big catches.

First, 50% of the people who take the drug will die within a week. Those who survive will get to live forever, never aging, etc.

Second, the drug is essentially also a sexually transmitted disease. If you've taken the drug, anybody you have sex with will also receive it. They will face a 50/50 chance of dying within a week, versus being an immortal.

Third, everybody who's taken the drug is infertile. Permanently.

The researchers are facing a cool moral quandry. This drug would eliminate all disease as we know it, and could save hundreds of millions of lives. However, it also could sterilize the human species.

It also brings up the image of what the human species would be like if we all lived forever but there were never any new humans on the planet.

I do think that the theme you are describing was captured quite well.

There's a book I read a while back that addressed a similar idea from kind of another angle. (I'm totally blanking on the title for some reason, but I'll try to remember it asap.) In this story, researchers have discovered a drug that will allow a human being to live forever, never aging from the time they took the drug, and with greatly increased healing and immunity. However, there are several very big catches.

First, 50% of the people who take the drug will die within a week. Those who survive will get to live forever, never aging, etc.

Second, the drug is essentially also a sexually transmitted disease. If you've taken the drug, anybody you have sex with will also receive it. They will face a 50/50 chance of dying within a week, versus being an immortal.

Third, everybody who's taken the drug is infertile. Permanently.

The researchers are facing a cool moral quandry. This drug would eliminate all disease as we know it, and could save hundreds of millions of lives. However, it also could sterilize the human species.

It also brings up the image of what the human species would be like if we all lived forever but there were never any new humans on the planet.

That sounds pretty cool.

*wills you to remember the title*

Not enough. :(
You should sue.

I never knew how to do those but now I know. :fluffle:
I'll send you my bill.
since we are already on the verge of being able to use two human eggs to create a baby and thus zero sperm counts wouldn't be a problem for very long.
Noes, we're becoming obsolete!
That sounds pretty cool.

*wills you to remember the title*

*helps*

It's a role that rivals David Bowie as Nikola Tesla in The Prestige.

They filmed The Prestige? Why was I not informed? Christopher Priest has been a looooooooong time favourite of mine.

They filmed The Prestige? Why was I not informed? Christopher Priest has been a looooooooong time favourite of mine.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0482571/

It's done quite well. Meandered a bit in the middle, as if it didn't quite know where it was really going, but overall it's very good.