Brain Drain
Andaluciae
08-01-2007, 14:25
The Iranian government of Mr. Ahmadinejad seems to be worsening an already problematic situation in Iran. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6240287.stm)
Throughout the latter half of the twentieth century, we've repeatedly seen what happens when autocratic regimes put the lid on the heights people can reach. The end result is always the best and the brightest leaving to find better lives in freer countries.
Risottia
08-01-2007, 14:28
No need for authoritarian governments. Italian graduates also flee to the US and to other EU countries because the Italian policy on research is something on the lines of "we'll wait for the americans to sell us some of the research the brightest italian scientists are forced to do outside Italy". The average researcher at italian universities gets about 800-1000 €/month.
Scheisse.
Andaluciae
08-01-2007, 14:31
No need for authoritarian governments. Italian graduates also flee to the US and to other EU countries because the Italian policy on research is something on the lines of "we'll wait for the americans to sell us some of the research the brightest italian scientists are forced to do outside Italy". The average researcher at italian universities gets about 800-1000 €/month.
Scheisse.
Wow.
I know that here at Ohio State, a full professor in the social sciences averages something around $95,000 a year.
No need for authoritarian governments. Italian graduates also flee to the US and to other EU countries because the Italian policy on research is something on the lines of "we'll wait for the americans to sell us some of the research the brightest italian scientists are forced to do outside Italy". The average researcher at italian universities gets about 800-1000 €/month.
Scheisse.
The bolded bit is kind of funny to me (I'm an American grad student) because pretty much all the grad students in my program are talking about "fleeing" the US when we look for post-doc positions. The pay may seem ok on the surface, but you take into account the shit health care and lousy benefits and suddenly you realize that the US isn't as great for researchers as it appears.
Andaluciae
08-01-2007, 14:35
The bolded bit is kind of funny to me (I'm an American grad student) because pretty much all the grad students in my program are talking about "fleeing" the US when we look for post-doc positions. The pay may seem ok on the surface, but you take into account the shit health care and lousy benefits and suddenly you realize that the US isn't as great for researchers as it appears.
Don't know about where you're at, but at OSU when I got my student work job the healthcare package I was offered was amazing, with crazy-cheap coverage at the University hospitals and associated medical system.
Iztatepopotla
08-01-2007, 15:34
I thought this thread was going to be about drilling holes in people's heads.
Anyway, people go wherever they think they'll have a better life, it's not just dictatorships (although for some reason more people under those seem to prefer other places). And they very well should be free to do so, I say.
No need for authoritarian governments. Italian graduates also flee to the US and to other EU countries because the Italian policy on research is something on the lines of "we'll wait for the americans to sell us some of the research the brightest italian scientists are forced to do outside Italy". The average researcher at italian universities gets about 800-1000 €/month.
Scheisse.
...how much?
You must be joking.