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Are you Married or Happy?

United Guppies
07-01-2007, 22:54
This is an old joke originating from my early days, and I thought how would it fare on NSG.

I'm not married, but i'm happy because um uh, um.................................uh, click here to find out. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513656)
Call to power
07-01-2007, 22:56
...no I'm not joining your region
United Guppies
07-01-2007, 22:57
...no I'm not joining your region

That's just a sub-topic in a topic, you don't have to join.

The main point of this thread is discussing the topic, and voting.
Congo--Kinshasa
07-01-2007, 22:58
Unmarried, but I'd certainly like to get married someday.
Compulsive Depression
07-01-2007, 22:59
Or shouldn't be exclusive :(

But in this case...
New Mitanni
08-01-2007, 00:07
Still looking for Miss Right ;)
Eudeminea
08-01-2007, 00:51
Engaged to be married and very very happy :D
Snafturi
08-01-2007, 00:57
Happy.

Single and happy. I hate relationships. The only good thing about them is one day you get to be single again. Of couse, Ms Right could always change my mind. I just don't like the whole people trying to change me thing. Screw compramise. I don't ask them to change and I expect the same in return.
Orlzenheimerness
08-01-2007, 01:03
Not Married... Or Happy. Not married because I am twelve years old. Not happy because.... Many things...
The Government is taking my money.
Why don't old people smell like normal people.
People say "Lol", when they're NOT REALLY laughing out loud...
They Rejected my idea of "Potato shoes"...

:mad: Now you've reminded me of lots of things that make me angry... And now I'm VERY angry... :mad: I'm gonna go yell at a plant.
Lydania
08-01-2007, 01:06
Single and apathetic. I desire a relationship. I'm happier in one. But I'm not unhappy out of one.
Ollieland
08-01-2007, 01:08
Marraige is for the mentally weak. Do you really think you need a piece of paper to tell you that you love someone?
Isidoor
08-01-2007, 01:10
not maried and not unhappy. i don't plan on getting maried, but you never know i guess. and it are exams, so i could be happier.
Lydania
08-01-2007, 01:18
Marraige is for the mentally weak. Do you really think you need a piece of paper to tell you that you love someone?

Statements like these are for the people who fail at Econ and are ignorant of the rights that a marriage gives you, or who never grew past the 'fuck the Man' state.

A marriage is an economic and legal tie. But no, don't let something like that bother you. When you get into a relationship with someone you really care about... well, lets just hope that their family likes you. Because otherwise, you can be denied entry to the funeral of your loved one.
Rameria
08-01-2007, 01:18
In a relationship and very happy.
Chandelier
08-01-2007, 01:21
I'm happy, and I don't intend to ever get married, unless the marriage could be completely sexless.
Poliwanacraca
08-01-2007, 01:23
I am neither married nor especially happy. However, I am fairly happy about being single. :)
Silliopolous
08-01-2007, 01:36
Married. Kids. Happy.

Tired.... but happy :)
Murderous maniacs
08-01-2007, 01:59
unmarried, moderately happy (but only as a result of the weekend).
normally i'm neither happy nor sad, it's nice and easy that way.
will i ever marry? i doubt anyone could deal with me that long...
Anti-Social Darwinism
08-01-2007, 02:31
I'm divorced. I would be happy if my daughter could get a job and move out.
Zarakon
08-01-2007, 02:33
Taco Gasm!!!
Pure Metal
08-01-2007, 02:58
i'm not married but hopefully will be some day (i'm thinking 3 or 4 years assuming we're still together)

and i'm fairly happy. i dislike my job, the political climate in this country, this country in general, the weather, my body, my house and a host of other things. but i have a beautiful girlfriend who makes me very happy and whom i love, respect and adore in equal measure, and with whom i have the best times of my life now, and find hope for the future :)
we're coming up on our 1 year anniversary soon.... yay! (any ideas, people??)
Smunkeeville
08-01-2007, 03:16
I am married and happy! :D
Maraque
08-01-2007, 03:40
I'm engaged and depressed! :)
Soviestan
08-01-2007, 03:49
I'm very happy though not yet married. I look foward to getting a wife in a couple years and having kids. I want them to go to Mosque as soon as they can walk, hopefully sooner:)
Celtlund
08-01-2007, 03:54
Both and have been that way for almost 39 years. :fluffle:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Celtlund/?action=view&current=BAFBJuly61968.jpg
Harlesburg
08-01-2007, 05:29
This is an old joke originating from my early days, and I thought how would it fare on NSG.

I'm not married, but i'm happy because um uh, um.................................uh, click here to find out. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=513656)
Well once someone is married they can no longer be happy.
She-beast harpies suck ones will to live dry.
Arsonius
08-01-2007, 05:58
I'm happy, and I don't intend to ever get married, unless the marriage could be completely sexless.

isn't that how its supposed to be?
Bitchkitten
08-01-2007, 07:19
Can't remember where I've seen it, but I've seen it a couple of times. Was a poll of Americans that showed in general that married men are happier than unmarried men and married women are less happy than single women.
Ohshucksiforgotourname
08-01-2007, 07:27
I am NEITHER happy NOR married.

In fact, I am unhappy BECAUSE I am unmarried.

I simply don't know how to make a woman interested in me. Some men have ALL the luck, but not me.

I've tried talking to them, asking them out, everything I know to do that MIGHT conceivably interest them, but nothing has ever come of it.

I can never get past the friend stage. They only want to be "friends" with me.

LISTEN, WOMEN! I DON'T WANT JUST A FRIEND! I WANT SOMEONE (AND YES, I MEAN FROM AMONG YOU) TO WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE WITH ME! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
Ohshucksiforgotourname
08-01-2007, 07:32
Can't remember where I've seen it, but I've seen it a couple of times. Was a poll of Americans that showed in general that married men are happier than unmarried men and married women are less happy than single women.

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all.

It seems to me that, whereas men are attracted to women, women on the other hand (and I certainly HOPE I'm wrong here) want nothing to do with men (at least that has been MY experience).

That would explain why no woman ever comes to a man and asks HIM out. If there is any asking out, it is done by the man.

And of course women DON'T want to go out with a man; they only want to go out with their other female friends.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 07:33
Welp....

I am unmarried but I am happy. Probably by the middle of this year I will be engaged to my wonderful girlfriend.
Czardas
08-01-2007, 17:25
I'm happy in the sense that I'm not unhappy. And marriage and relationships are for weaklings who can't accept or live with themselves and need somene else to do it instead, so I obviously won't be doing that.

Of course, relationships and marriage do occasionally allow those who formerly were incapable of self-acceptance to .... uh .... accept themselves. God damn I've got to get myself a better writing style. However, I don't see why I personally should bother as I've already done so. Accepted myself that is, not gotten married. Oh, you know.
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:13
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all.

It seems to me that, whereas men are attracted to women, women on the other hand (and I certainly HOPE I'm wrong here) want nothing to do with men (at least that has been MY experience).

That would explain why no woman ever comes to a man and asks HIM out. If there is any asking out, it is done by the man.

And of course women DON'T want to go out with a man; they only want to go out with their other female friends.

What a disgusting (not to mention sweeping) generalisation... Honestly, how many women have you met, much less been friends with? One could just as easily say that men are in it only for the sex, and they'd rather just spend time out on the town with their male friends.

As for myself, I'm not even in a relationship (never have been), and I'm neutral, though I do sink quite low from time to time. Would I like to get involved with somebody? Sure. However, I'm a very particular person (one could even call me cautious), so there won't be any serial dating or anything like that.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 18:18
What a disgusting (not to mention sweeping) generalisation... Honestly, how many women have you met, much less been friends with? One could just as easily say that men are in it only for the sex, and they'd rather just spend time out on the town with their male friends.

As for myself, I'm not even in a relationship (never have been), and I'm neutral, though I do sink quite low from time to time. Would I like to get involved with somebody? Sure. However, I'm a very particular person (one could even call me cautious), so there won't be any serial dating or anything like that.

Its always good to be cautious Potarius. Especially in this area. :D
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:20
Its always good to be cautious Potarius. Especially in this area. :D

My point exactly. I just don't get the whole serial dating thing.
Czardas
08-01-2007, 18:20
It seems to me that, whereas men are attracted to women, women on the other hand (and I certainly HOPE I'm wrong here) want nothing to do with men (at least that has been MY experience).

No.... women want nothing to do with YOU. Small difference. :D
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:21
No.... women want nothing to do with YOU. Small difference. :D

*hands you a cookie*

That made my morning. Not kidding, here.
Compulsive Depression
08-01-2007, 18:24
LISTEN, WOMEN! I DON'T WANT JUST A FRIEND! I WANT SOMEONE (AND YES, I MEAN FROM AMONG YOU) TO WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE WITH ME! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?

Yes. You never heard the phrase "I Wants Don't Get"?

...

And I'm opposed to marriage because it's simply too much power over one's future wellbeing and happiness to give to somebody else.
Czardas
08-01-2007, 18:24
*hands you a cookie*

That made my morning. Not kidding, here.

Only morning? I made Vaitupu's day once, I believe, and Simonist's week. Among others.

Then again, I suppose you are picky, like you said... so I'll take the cookie. Does it have orange marmalade flavouring?
Wanderjar
08-01-2007, 18:25
Marraige is for the mentally weak. Do you really think you need a piece of paper to tell you that you love someone?

Amen.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 18:32
My point exactly. I just don't get the whole serial dating thing.

Neither do I! However, I do not have to think about it anymore as I have a wonderful girlfriend.

Besides, even when I was single, I never done serial dating and never would.
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:32
Only morning? I made Vaitupu's day once, I believe, and Simonist's week. Among others.

Then again, I suppose you are picky, like you said... so I'll take the cookie. Does it have orange marmalade flavouring?

It tastes exactly how you want it to taste.

And it's also made with a special blend of marijuana and hash!
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:34
Neither do I! However, I do not have to think about it anymore as I have a wonderful girlfriend.

Besides, even when I was single, I never done serial dating and never would.

Same here. Which is odd, since my dad was probably the most rabid serial dater in history (my 41-year-old cousin made a comment about that a few days ago).

Then again, I'm nothing like pops... And I can't say that it's a bad thing. :p
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 18:34
Yes. You never heard the phrase "I Wants Don't Get"?

...

And I'm opposed to marriage because it's simply too much power over one's future wellbeing and happiness to give to somebody else.

I think someone has a warped view of marriage. One should never dominate over the other. You are supposed to work together.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 18:35
Same here. Which is odd, since my dad was probably the most rabid serial dater in history (my 41-year-old cousin made a comment about that a few days ago).

Then again, I'm nothing like pops... And I can't say that it's a bad thing. :p

LMAO!!!

I'll give you a cookie for that comment :D
Kryozerkia
08-01-2007, 18:39
Engaged to be married and very very happy :D

Same here...
Czardas
08-01-2007, 18:40
It tastes exactly how you want it to taste.

And it's also made with a special blend of marijuana and hash!
ooh. Can I have the jar?
I think someone has a warped view of marriage. One should never dominate over the other. You are supposed to work together.
"Working together" is a practical impossibility. It is only possible to work on different things in competition; those different things only have to be two halves of the same whole.

Claiming that collectivised work is possible according to human nature is a sign of a particularly naïve (i.e. any opinion that disagrees with mine) view of humanity.
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:41
LMAO!!!

I'll give you a cookie for that comment :D

*eats*

Seriously, he must've had at least twenty, maybe thirty "girlfriends". Every year, I hear about ones I never knew existed. And he doesn't make them up, either. Not to mention the fact that he went to "The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas" several times... It's former location isn't too many miles from my house, believe it or not.

Like I said, it's not such a bad thing that I'm so different.
Desperate Measures
08-01-2007, 18:42
Marraige is for the mentally weak. Do you really think you need a piece of paper to tell you that you love someone?

I did. I needed the piece of paper. I forget. Then I read the piece of paper. I say, "Oh, right. I love you."


Actually, we needed the piece of paper so that I could follow my wife to Ireland while she goes to school.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 18:46
"Working together" is a practical impossibility. It is only possible to work on different things in competition; those different things only have to be two halves of the same whole.

Funny. My parents seem to work quite well together. My gf and I work together as well. It is not an impossiblilty to work together. By working in competition, it splits people up and causes distrust. That my friend, leads to divorce.

Claiming that collectivised work is possible according to human nature is a sign of a particularly naïve (i.e. any opinion that disagrees with mine) view of humanity.

:rolleyes:
Compulsive Depression
08-01-2007, 18:46
I think someone has a warped view of marriage. One should never dominate over the other. You are supposed to work together.

If you're unmarried, then your happiness is mostly in your own hands.

There are three possible outcomes of marriage: Happy marriage, unhappy marriage and divorce. Your partner has just as much input into that outcome as you do, and if they decide they don't like you? They can fleece you in the divorce courts or you can make each others' lives hell in all sorts of interesting ways.
You might really love each other now, but in five, ten, twenty years? I think I'll learn from my friends' and relatives' mistakes and not bet on that, thank you.
Czardas
08-01-2007, 18:51
Funny. My parents seem to work quite well together. My gf and I work together as well. It is not an impossiblilty to work together. By working in competition, it splits people up and causes distrust. That my friend, leads to divorce.

Technically, while you may state that you are working together, it is in reality impossible. It would not be possible for you and your girlfriend to actually work together unless you were part of the same organism. As it is, you are working apart and telling yourself you are working together, as the end result is the accomplishment of one rather than two things. And it is a competition of sorts because it is human nature to try to do things better than other people can do them. Doesn't necessarily cause distrust, though. That's just propagandist pamphlets and the like.

Distrust is, anyway, another basic part of human nature. "Trust" is an illusion.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 18:53
If you're unmarried, then your happiness is mostly in your own hands.

That's not entirely true CD. Your happiness can rest in other hands too, like say your boss?

There are three possible outcomes of marriage: Happy marriage, unhappy marriage and divorce.

ACtually, unhappy marriage leads to divorce so to seperate the two is incorrect.

Your partner has just as much input into that outcome as you do, and if they decide they don't like you?

If they do not like eachother, then why the heck did they get married?

They can fleece you in the divorce courts or you can make each others' lives hell in all sorts of interesting ways.

Pretty much divorce actually. That's where the interesting things actually occur, in a divorce court.

You might really love each other now, but in five, ten, twenty years?

My parents will be celebrating 27 years of marriage in 3 days.

I think I'll learn from my friends' and relatives' mistakes and not bet on that, thank you.

Always remember the lessons of the past. Learn from them so you do not make the same mistakes. That is why my gf and I are not rushing into things.
Potarius
08-01-2007, 18:55
Technically, while you may state that you are working together, it is in reality impossible. It would not be possible for you and your girlfriend to actually work together unless you were part of the same organism. As it is, you are working apart and telling yourself you are working together, as the end result is the accomplishment of one rather than two things. And it is a competition of sorts because it is human nature to try to do things better than other people can do them. Doesn't necessarily cause distrust, though. That's just propagandist pamphlets and the like.

Distrust is, anyway, another basic part of human nature. "Trust" is an illusion.

Been reading too much Rand, eh? Don't worry, you're intelligent enough to realise that it's quite the flawed philosophy.

Of course, one has to get out into the real world to see that. So get to it, dude!
Kanabia
08-01-2007, 18:57
Neither. :p

....IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?

Judging from that post...probably. No offence intended, mind.
Czardas
08-01-2007, 18:59
Been reading too much Rand, eh? Don't worry, you're intelligent enough to realise that it's quite the flawed philosophy.
Yeah, Ayn Rand was wrong in many ways. She was right on a few accounts, but despite calling it objectivism didn't seem very interested in making it actually objective. In addition, intimating that people don't need some kind of government or authority making sure they don't fuck up is kind of silly. And her "ideal examples" of socialists and capitalists are so specialised types, it's not even funny.


Of course, one has to get out into the real world to see that. So get to it, dude!
I'll be right on it next year, as soon as I turn 18 and magically get some perspective (and head off to uni, unless I'm going to postpone that 'til 19 because of my ... social difficulties, as the nice people in white lab coats recommended).
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 19:00
Been reading too much Rand, eh? Don't worry, you're intelligent enough to realise that it's quite the flawed philosophy.

Of course, one has to get out into the real world to see that. So get to it, dude!

Well said. Not to mention, he has nerve in giving me advice considering he is younger than I am if I remember right.
Nationalian
08-01-2007, 19:01
I'm neither married nor happy and I don't think I'll ever mary. It's an outdated institution and I don't need a piece of paper to confirm my love towards another person. The only reason I would ever consider marriage would be if there's some legal benefits.

EDIT: Plus, it's much easier to separate if you're just living together with someone without beeing married.
Desperate Measures
08-01-2007, 19:01
I really liked Ayn Rand's philosophy when I read the Fountain Head until I realized that I had complete misinterpreted it. I still like what I used to think was her philosophy, though.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 19:01
I'm neither married nor happy and I don't think I'll ever get married. It's an outdated institution and I don't need a piece of paper to confirm my love towards another person. The only reason I would ever consider marriage would be if there's some legal benefits.

Tax benifits :D
Czardas
08-01-2007, 19:03
Well said. Not to mention, he has nerve in giving me advice considering he is younger than I am if I remember right.

Surely you're old enough to know that "everything you say is automatically invalidated because you don't have a high school/college/university degree yet" is not the most brilliant comeback, then? ;)
Czardas
08-01-2007, 19:05
I really liked Ayn Rand's philosophy when I read the Fountain Head until I realized that I had complete misinterpreted it. I still like what I used to think was her philosophy, though.

I'm still not entirely sure what it is either, so I twisted some of it into stuff I agree with and am not sure about the rest, so I disagree with that part. <.<
Nationalian
08-01-2007, 19:06
Tax benifits :D

What kind of tax benefits do you get when you're married but not when you just live together?
Desperate Measures
08-01-2007, 19:09
I'm still not entirely sure what it is either, so I twisted some of it into stuff I agree with and am not sure about the rest, so I disagree with that part. <.<

Basically what I got out of it is sometimes an artist is so individual, original, talented that that artist is vindicated in going to extreme measures. But I think Rand thought that everybody should act that way... I never really looked further into her philosophy than what I gleamed from the selfishness of it.
IL Ruffino
08-01-2007, 19:10
I am married.
Kanabia
08-01-2007, 19:11
I am married.

To Mrs. Palmer?
Compulsive Depression
08-01-2007, 19:13
That's not entirely true CD. Your happiness can rest in other hands too, like say your boss?.

Indeed, but - even if I didn't work at home and only rarely saw my boss - I'd only see him for about eight hours per day. Your spouse? Almost twice that. Also, you can go and find a new boss, if you want, and only have to give a few weeks' notice, rather than half of everything you own plus court fees.

ACtually, unhappy marriage leads to divorce so to seperate the two is incorrect.
You might think so, but this is not actually the case. My parents (and, I think, aunt and uncle) would be just as good an example of this as yours would be for happy marriage.

If they do not like eachother, then why the heck did they get married?

Pretty much divorce actually. That's where the interesting things actually occur, in a divorce court.

Like I said, they might like each other today. But in fifteen, twenty years?
And I assure you, a married couple can be quite miserable and ingenious in making each others' lives miserable without getting divorced. My mother is frightened that, if she divorced my father, she'd get little out of divorce and have to work full-time to support herself. My father is terrified that he'd lose everything in a divorce, and he'd have to learn to look after himself.
Years of fun :rolleyes: .

My parents will be celebrating 27 years of marriage in 3 days.
Good for them. I mean that.
My parents... I'm not sure. I think they've been married for about thirty years.

Always remember the lessons of the past. Learn from them so you do not make the same mistakes. That is why my gf and I are not rushing into things.
Exactly. That is why, I've decided, marriage is a bad gamble. I've seen far too few happy ones.

Oh, and I don't think there are even any tax benefits for being married in the UK.
IL Ruffino
08-01-2007, 19:16
To Mrs. Palmer?

And her five children.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 19:24
What kind of tax benefits do you get when you're married but not when you just live together?

For that answer, consult the tax code.
Kanabia
08-01-2007, 19:26
And her five children.

:D
IL Ruffino
08-01-2007, 19:31
:D

;)
Bottle
08-01-2007, 19:32
I don't understand why divorce is viewed as such a bad thing, or why a marriage is automatically considered a "failure" if both parties eventually decide to divorce.

Frankly, I think the idea of "'til death do us part" is extremely naive. That concept originated in a time when most people didn't live to see 30, so a "life long" marriage meant "15 years at the most."

Some people can marry for life. My parents are doing pretty damn good at it so far (30 years and counting!). But I think it's stupid to believe that all people, or even most people, will have that sort of relationship.
Big Jim P
08-01-2007, 20:35
Married. Check my sig.

Happiness, like unhappiness is transitory, so if you are unhappy, just wait awhile. Life will get better.
Dempublicents1
08-01-2007, 20:41
For that answer, consult the tax code.

The US tax code?

In that case, those "tax benefits" are apparently to pay more taxes, since that's what happens to most married couples. Single income couples will likely be better off under the marriage tax code. Very rich families may as well. But for most of us middle-classers, getting married and filing jointly will mean paying more taxes than we would pay singly.

There are, of course, other legal benefits associated with marriage - and tailored to it. Lessened taxes, at least on the federal level, simply isn't one of them.


As for the original question. I'm pretty happy. =) I'll be officially married in April, but I've been unofficially married for quite a while now.
Allegheny County 2
08-01-2007, 20:44
As for the original question. I'm pretty happy. =) I'll be officially married in April, but I've been unofficially married for quite a while now.

Just like my gf and I are unofficially engaged right now :)
PedroTheDonkey
08-01-2007, 20:46
Not Married... Or Happy. Not married because I am twelve years old. Not happy because.... Many things...
The Government is taking my money.
Why don't old people smell like normal people.
People say "Lol", when they're NOT REALLY laughing out loud...
They Rejected my idea of "Potato shoes"...

:mad: Now you've reminded me of lots of things that make me angry... And now I'm VERY angry... :mad: I'm gonna go yell at a plant.

O.o