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I ask you all, who is more of the rebellious individual:

The stylish, tight-pants wearing kid, with a triangular haircut dyed black. This person wears all tight fitting cloths, claims to believe in anarchy, even though they don't know what it really is, and hangs out with like minded friends, doing drugs and alcohol and engaging in sex in order to show just how rebellious they are.

OR

The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think.



I think that it is the second, as the first is just trying to conform to a style even though they believe themselves to be non-conformists. Just like the hippies in the sixties.

I think....


Let's eat their flesh!

What!?:confused:

You don't say.

05 called, they want their thread back.

You know, I never understood NSG's obsession with emo-mocking. Maybe the forum's trying to compensate for something?

05 called, they want their thread back.

Emos are not 05, at least in my school.

Seriously, most "emos" are total conformists. The actual rebels are not those who march to the beat of their own drummer, they are the ones who ARE their own drummer.

:fluffle:

You know, I never understood NSG's obsession with emo-mocking. Maybe the forum's trying to compensate for something?

are you saying that I am emo mocking? I am just stating the fact that they are not a bunch of rebel non-conformists like they think that they are.

Seriously, most "emos" are total conformists. The actual rebels are not those who march to the beat of their own drummer, they are the ones who ARE their own drummer.

:fluffle:
Bu-da bump!

:p

*drums on banjo*

Seriously, most "emos" are total conformists. The actual rebels are not those who march to the beat of their own drummer, they are the ones who ARE their own drummer.

:fluffle:

like the kid that busts their butt for the grade, hoping to make it to the top of their class.

Emos are not 05, at least in my school.

Talking about how they're conforming to non-conformity is. If you don't apply it just to emos it's older than that.

Uh huh...

You know, I never understood NSG's obsession with emo-mocking. Maybe the forum's trying to compensate for something?
Are you kidding? It's not just NS, it's most of the internet. Emo mocking was, and still is to a lesser extent, an internet phenomenon. just type emo into ytmnd.

I think....


Let's eat their flesh!
Fuckin' A!

like the kid that busts their butt for the grade, hoping to make it to the top of their class.

How do you know they're not just responding to parental pressure?

I think....


Let's eat their flesh!

Are you mad? I don't want any part of whatever wierd chemicals might be in Emomeat. There's no way they're FDA approved.

05 called, they want their thread back.

Dude, forget 05, this kind of shit's been flying around since before NS existed.

Are you kidding? It's not just NS, it's most of the internet. Emo mocking was, and still is to a lesser extent, an internet phenomenon. just type emo into ytmnd.
So the intraweb is trying to compensate for its members' emotion fragility?

I think someone feels slightly envious of the emos. Tell me, does your geeky "friend" feel rebelious in his steriotyped geek clothes, "studying"? No, he's doing it because he's practical.

And geeks, in the ironic sense, have become a culture that makes an accidental mockery of the society they try to fit in to, but cannot understand (at least, as teenagers. I'm told they grow out of it). They are not non-conformists, they are merely pathetic conformists.

And besides which, you show no understanding of counterculture or of Emo, so you may want to pick a new topic.

who cares?

So the intraweb is trying to compensate for its members' emotion fragility?

That's always been my guess. That and a latent homophobia, since the primary negative term used for emos (other than 'emo') is 'gay'.

That's always been my guess. That and a latent homophobia, since the primary negative term used for emos (other than 'emo') is 'gay'.

I always thought it was slight homophobia, since the usual qualifier added to emo that I've heard is "fag".

On the OP, I think they both conform in different ways. The geek conforms to a certain societal expectation and standard. In reality, despite the ridicule they may receive, they are more socially acceptable in the wider world (yes, there is a world beyond high school:eek: )

The emo on the other hand, does not conform to a socially acceptable standard. However, they do conform to a certain subcculture's characteristics or "rules".

I've never met a real live stereotypical emo kid, and my old school was like 90% geeky (average SAT's around 2200 in my grade, bleh...), so not for me. But why is conformity a bad thing? Most of my friends are odd (it was either eccentric or grade-obsessed), but there are plently of nice conformists too, I think. Emo seems to be the natural state of alot of teenagers; looking for something to be angsty about but not really having anything bad.

Well, duh. There are groups like that within any subculture. There are hardcore punks who feel they and all others absolutely must become straight edge to be a "real punk", (not mocking that decision, it's a personal thing), metalheads who carry on about "real metal" and so on. But despite these examples, there are others who identify with the the ideals of punk (such as myself) and use it to express themselves in other ways. I don't have a mohawk and i'm pretty far from straight edge, but I still consider myself to be a punk in my own way.

Going by that, there's probably a few people out there (ignoring the scene kids who would probably dress up as ostriches and yodel if it were the fashion trend of the moment) who genuinely feel that emo music is a genuine outlet and way to express themselves. As a result, maybe they're not all simply in it for rebellion, either. Even though I don't care for the modern take on emo fashion or music, good for them, I say.

EDIT - And by the way, your archetypical nerd is conforming to society as a whole in his own way. He might be a social outcast, but he is still fitting into a generally recognised place in society.

Well, duh. There are groups like that within any subculture. There are hardcore punks who feel they and all others absolutely must become straight edge to be a "real punk", (not mocking that decision, it's a personal thing), metalheads who carry on about "real metal" and so on. But despite these examples, there are others who identify with the the ideals of punk (such as myself) and use it to express themselves in other ways. I don't have a mohawk and i'm pretty far from straight edge, but I still consider myself to be a punk in my own way.

That's a total misrepresentation of hardcore. There are plenty of hardcore kids who are stoners, and those of us who are straight-edge aren't all hard line. I don't care what you do with your body, my choice is about my body and my mind.

Feckin bigotted anti-straight-edgers. We aren't hardliners, and comparing us to those Nazi shmucks is just low. :mad:

I don't think it's any sillier than any other teen trend through the years. My brother went through his prep, goth and punk phases before he "found" himself.
On the other hand I did have to bite my tongue to keep from asking my fourteen year-old nephew if the only reason his emo uniform was incomplete was that his mother wouldn't let him dye his hair black.

I ask you all, who is more of the rebellious individual:

The stylish, tight-pants wearing kid, with a triangular haircut dyed black. This person wears all tight fitting cloths, claims to believe in anarchy, even though they don't know what it really is, and hangs out with like minded friends, doing drugs and alcohol and engaging in sex in order to show just how rebellious they are.

OR

The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think.

ARGH I hate stereotypes... most geeks aren't the kind that study in the library for hours on end to get the grade.... in fact all the geeks I have met in my school (including myself) care nothing about their actual grades... not to say (we) don't have good grades for the most part, but mostly in the whole studying sense its to learn the things, not to get the good grades... and most geeks don't study that much anyways! we're all busy doing our own hobbies or whatever... videogames for me... as well as spending as much time on a computer as I can. so I'm kind of a hybrid gamer/geek but whatever... also I have never seen ANYONE wearing a pocket protector in real life.... ever. although you may see geeks as nonconformists, it's not the mentality about "being rebellious" or "trying to be at the top of the grade" or whatever... seriously, I completely ignore these things... I don't act differently because I want to be different or individual or whatever... I seriously don't even pay attention to my peers...

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please don't take me as a representative of the geek culture because I'm horrible at debating these kinds of things! :D

I think someone feels slightly envious of the emos. Tell me, does your geeky "friend" feel rebelious in his steriotyped geek clothes, "studying"? No, he's doing it because he's practical.

And geeks, in the ironic sense, have become a culture that makes an accidental mockery of the society they try to fit in to, but cannot understand (at least, as teenagers. I'm told they grow out of it). They are not non-conformists, they are merely pathetic conformists.

And besides which, you show no understanding of counterculture or of Emo, so you may want to pick a new topic.

The majority of nerds who I know just don't give a shit about what people say about them, thus they do not try. Emos on the other hand, care greatly, getting extremely defensive when confronted with their conformity, as you are right now.

How do you know they're not just responding to parental pressure?

One of my XC friends, who I would consider a nerd though not to his face, is pressured by his parents to give up his college aspirations in order to work at their family's store, so I ask you, where is the parental pressure to do well in this situation. If you look at many overachieving social outcasts, I believe that you would find a large majority of them are in the same situation.

I always thought it was slight homophobia, since the usual qualifier added to emo that I've heard is "fag".

On the OP, I think they both conform in different ways. The geek conforms to a certain societal expectation and standard. In reality, despite the ridicule they may receive, they are more socially acceptable in the wider world (yes, there is a world beyond high school:eek: )
A wider world that is non-existent in high school

The emo on the other hand, does not conform to a socially acceptable standard. However, they do conform to a certain subcculture's characteristics or "rules".

A large subculture that dominates many schools. Therefore, it is no longer a subculture.

I don't think it's any sillier than any other teen trend through the years. My brother went through his prep, goth and punk phases before he "found" himself.
On the other hand I did have to bite my tongue to keep from asking my fourteen year-old nephew if the only reason his emo uniform was incomplete was that his mother wouldn't let him dye his hair black.

I would say that emo is just an evolved form of goth styles, as they look the same to most outsiders, triggering the reaction that the wearer intended, which is attention.

[QUOTE=Kinda Sensible people;12176738][snip]00QUOTE]

KSP, if you are trying to insult me, good luck, if that is the only way that you can win your arguement go for it, and no, I am not envious of emo "culture" I have everything I need here in my small circle of trackheads.

The majority of nerds who I know just don't give a shit about what people say about them, thus they do not try. Emos on the other hand, care greatly, getting extremely defensive when confronted with their conformity, as you are right now.

Perhaps you ought to look before pointing fingers, bucko.

"The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think."

Seems like your nerd there seems to have some serious conforming going on there.

And... Um... I'm not emo by a long shot, I just think the dipshits who spend their time taking shots at emos are insecure, immature, and mostly unable to cope with anything hostile to their worldviews. That's why tormenting them is so fun.

But mostly, don't accuse someone of being emo unless, y'know, you know they are emo. It's silly and it makes you look like troll.

I ask you all, who is more of the rebellious individual:

The stylish, tight-pants wearing kid, with a triangular haircut dyed black. This person wears all tight fitting cloths, claims to believe in anarchy, even though they don't know what it really is, and hangs out with like minded friends, doing drugs and alcohol and engaging in sex in order to show just how rebellious they are.

OR

The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think.



I think that it is the second, as the first is just trying to conform to a style even though they believe themselves to be non-conformists. Just like the hippies in the sixties.


At least, the emos have done one thing for sure, and that is too create a social sub-culture of "emo haters", 90% of which online, the other 10% consists of semi-retarded jocks and cheerleaders.

Too learn other clever phrases such as "your a gay fag, you...emo fag!" and more, please visit:

http://emogame.com/eg2.html

I know a kid, who would probably qualify as a pocket protecter wearing kid, who describes themselves as emo.

The problem lies in that at times they seem to enjoy making fun of themselves and at other times, they admit that they had major problems and thus became emo.

A perfect way to repeat the arguments of both sides...

Perhaps you ought to look before pointing fingers, bucko.

Don't call me bucko, only my dad and my coach are allowed to call me bucko.


"The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think."[QUOTE]

I used the hyperbole so I could make sure that I was talking about nerds rather than a prep who cares about their grades.

[QUOTE=Kinda Sensible people;12176962]But mostly, don't accuse someone of being emo unless, y'know, you know they are emo. It's silly and it makes you look like troll.

My apoligies

Perhaps you ought to look before pointing fingers, bucko.

"The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think."

Seems like your nerd there seems to have some serious conforming going on there.

And... Um... I'm not emo by a long shot, I just think the dipshits who spend their time taking shots at emos are insecure, immature, and mostly unable to cope with anything hostile to their worldviews. That's why tormenting them is so fun.

But mostly, don't accuse someone of being emo unless, y'know, you know they are emo. It's silly and it makes you look like troll.


We were tearing eachother too shreds in the "good bands" thread, and now....I completely agree with you. Universe is funny aint it?

Don't call me bucko, only my dad and my coach are allowed to call me bucko.

:rolleyes:

I used the hyperbole so I could make sure that I was talking about nerds rather than a prep who cares about their grades.

And? Isn't a nerd a steriotype someone chooses to take on? Yup... Hmm...

I would say that emo is just an evolved form of goth styles, as they look the same to most outsiders, triggering the reaction that the wearer intended, which is attention.My nephew spends an inordinate amount of time worrying about the "coolness" of everything. Don't get me wrong, he's a really good kid. Polite, good grades, kind to animals, smart and blah blah blah. But he buys into too much of the crap fed to him by all his peers in his upper-class white bread suburban neighborhood.
I just try not to let him forget that his mother grew up as one of those Walmart-shopping, hoopdy-driving, gansta-dating unwed teen mothers. Doesn't do to let the boy get a swelled head and think anything other than hard work and a lot of luck got his mother out of that hole.

And? Isn't a nerd a steriotype someone chooses to take on? Yup... Hmm...

most of the time it just happens, they are normal and then the next thing you know, they just turn into a nerd.

I would say that emo is just an evolved form of goth styles, as they look the same to most outsiders, triggering the reaction that the wearer intended, which is attention.

Emo descends from punk styles. Emo and Goth share a common ancestor in Goth style in that they both incorporate punk styles.

I gotta go for the night, I have a track meet up in Boulder tomorrow unless it is cancelled due to weather, but I will be back on by hopefully sunday afternoon. Bye!:cool:

I ask you all, who is more of the rebellious individual:

The stylish, tight-pants wearing kid, with a triangular haircut dyed black. This person wears all tight fitting cloths, claims to believe in anarchy, even though they don't know what it really is, and hangs out with like minded friends, doing drugs and alcohol and engaging in sex in order to show just how rebellious they are.

OR

The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think.



I think that it is the second, as the first is just trying to conform to a style even though they believe themselves to be non-conformists. Just like the hippies in the sixties.

Hey! I watch House too, how awesome is that?

Quoting, paraphrasing, borrowing, or outright stealing without citation is plagiarism. If you can't bother to either muster up an original thought or cite the person who did, don't bother posting.

I ask you all, who is more of the rebellious individual:

Who cares? Being rebellious isn't an end in itself.

I Buy the Drugs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux2B3Vk7kIc&eurl=)

This is a music video by the electric six, a band that my teachers nephew is in. Drew Peters, I believe his stagename is Tait Nucleus. Just a funny video for you guys to watch. Night.

A wider world that is non-existent in high school

That's funny, coz I had no friends at my actual high school when I was in school. I lived in the wrong area. They weren't allowed to visit, and I wasn't allowed to visit them. I'm actually quite unique amongst my friends, since I actually finished high school, let alone university.

Those who you classify as "nerds" are more likely to be accepted by their parents, more likely to be accepted as responsible, more likely to be looked on favourably by their teachers, employers, and by society as a whole.

Emos, as demonstrated by the several derogatory names thrown at them, are not similarly accepted. Except by those who are members of their subculture. Hence why so many of my students are banned from dying their hair, or getting emo haircuts or clothes.



A large subculture that dominates many schools. Therefore, it is no longer a subculture.

A large subculture is still a subculture. See? (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subculture)

Who cares? Being rebellious isn't an end in itself.

Sure it is. Being rebellious is a perfectly fine end, if you feel that there is something very wrong about continuing to live like the people around you.

If you mean rebellion for the sake of rebellion alone, I conceed that it is pointless, but seeking to be rebellious to either A) Make a point or B) Hurt those who have hurt you is absolutely an end.

I'm kinda curious about why anyone would care to be in a social group that limits your choices. I couldn't stand that kind of crap. It seems so...pointless. I guess people are driven to strange lengths to get acceptance or whatever it is that makes them feel good about being controlled by other people's expectations.

No, I wouldn't carry a calculator in my pocket unless I had a use for it.

That's a total misrepresentation of hardcore. There are plenty of hardcore kids who are stoners, and those of us who are straight-edge aren't all hard line. I don't care what you do with your body, my choice is about my body and my mind.

Feckin bigotted anti-straight-edgers. We aren't hardliners, and comparing us to those Nazi shmucks is just low. :mad:

Oh, that wasn't what I meant at all! I was pointing out that there are hardline straight edgers within the hardcore movement, but that they aren't representative of everyone within it - just as the trendy scenekids aren't representative of all emo fans. I don't have anything at all against straight-edgers, only the Nazi ones. ;) Sorry if my meaning wasn't clear - looking back on that post, I can see the ambiguity. By "groups like that within any subculture", I was thinking of hardcore itself as a subculture with groups within it that have their own brand of conformity, not as a hypocritical conformist "group" within punk.

Oh, that wasn't what I meant at all! I was pointing out that there are hardline straight edgers within the hardcore movement, but that they aren't representative of everyone within it - just as the trendy scenekids aren't representative of all emo fans. I don't have anything at all against straight-edgers, only the Nazi ones. ;) Sorry if my meaning wasn't clear - looking back on that post, I can see the ambiguity. By "groups like that within any subculture", I was thinking of Hardcore itself as a subculture with groups that are hypocritical, not as a hypocritical conformist "group" within punk.

'Sok I shouldn't have jumped down your throat.

And trust me, in most scenes, hardline types end up either having to form their own scene, or just having to leave the scene. It's not that anyone directs violence at them for being hardliners, but hardliners have the habit of beating the shit out of enough people that no one wants them around any more.

But emos are just so damn sexy. (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/TerroristCakes/pickies1177.jpg)

'Sok I shouldn't have jumped down your throat.

And trust me, in most scenes, hardline types end up either having to form their own scene, or just having to leave the scene. It's not that anyone directs violence at them for being hardliners, but hardliners have the habit of beating the shit out of enough people that no one wants them around any more.

Yeah, well....good riddance to them, I guess. :p

I think the whole "beat the shit out of traitors" sXe movement is more of a US phenomenon than over here, though.

But emos are just so damn sexy. (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/TerroristCakes/pickies1177.jpg)

But you don't have black hair. You can't be emo. ;)

But you don't have black hair. You can't be emo. ;)

Damnit, I tried!


Well, now I have to go slit my wrists for being too much of a conformist.

Yeah, well....good riddance to them, I guess. :p

I think the whole "beat the shit out of traitors" sXe movement is more of a US phenomenon than over here, though.

I haven't run into it, but I steer clear of the scene except for when I know a show is going to bring in a lot of outsiders. I have enough other things going against me, and the local scene is (apparently) xenophobic enough that I don't risk it.

Edit: clarified a bit.

ButmommyIwanttobeprettyandspeciallikeasnowflake!!1!

Seriously, everyone conforms at some point of their lives. You conform by speaking the same language as another person. Deal with it.

You know, I never understood NSG's obsession with emo-mocking. Maybe the forum's trying to compensate for something?

It's not just NS's. It's the world in general. Also, I find that most emo-kids vehemetly deny that they are.

ButmommyIwanttobeprettyandspeciallikeasnowflake!!1!

Seriously, everyone conforms at some point of their lives. You conform by speaking the same language as another person. Deal with it.

So does that mean that when dadaists wrote whole poems like:

"Zarklegrowk?

Zibzib jibbity-jibjibjib."

They were finally escaping the ties that bound them? 'Cuz, I thought it was just acting fucked up for attention... :rolleyes:

So does that mean that when dadaists wrote whole poems like:

"Zarklegrowk?

Zibzib jibbity-jibjibjib."

They were finally escaping the ties that bound them? 'Cuz, I thought it was just acting fucked up for attention... :rolleyes:

well, the first one did. The rest, as par for the course, conformed to non-conformity.

And yes, they were attention whores. But most people are.

ButmommyIwanttobeprettyandspeciallikeasnowflake!!1!

Seriously, everyone conforms at some point of their lives. You conform by speaking the same language as another person. Deal with it.
But I DO want to be pretty and special like a snowflake. Snowflakes are pretty. :p

Wait, did that make me emo? Uh oh...better de-emo myself now.

*goes shoe-shopping with my girlfriends and giggling at every guy who passes by*
It's not just NS's. It's the world in general. Also, I find that most emo-kids vehemetly deny that they are.
That's what makes it funny, because you know they're emo. Still, the only way to deal with emos is to ignore then. When they know they're not getting any attention for it, they'll stop. Everybody goes through that phase, and everybody grows up eventually.

well, the first one did. The rest, as par for the course, conformed to non-conformity.

And yes, they were attention whores. But most people are.

Well, the least that can be said for them is that they were funny, if you got their jokes, so I'm not having too much of a heart attack over it, but since they were still using roman-lettering, technically, they were still conforming, no?

*goes shoe-shopping with my girlfriends and giggling at every guy who passes by*
Ugh...I had that happen to me today. Do you have any idea how embarassing that is and how self conscious it makes most guys? haha

Well, the least that can be said for them is that they were funny, if you got their jokes, so I'm not having too much of a heart attack over it, but since they were still using roman-lettering, technically, they were still conforming, no?

true dat.

fuck the romans!

true dat.

fuck the romans!

Dude, good job not letting the Roman keep you down.

Ugh...I had that happen to me today. Do you have any idea how embarassing that is and how self conscious it makes most guys? haha


true dat.

fuck the romans!
Yes, it's like how girls feel when they're whistled at, except probably with less indignation.

I'm sure the Romans would like to fuck you too, considering how open they are about sexual matters. :p

Dude, good job not letting the Roman keep you down.

:p

Yes, it's like how girls feel when they're whistled at, except probably with less indignation.You'd be amazed. I'd rather be whistled at (yes, it's happened...no, I don't get it because I am NOT that hot) than have girls eyefuck me and giggle afterwards

I'm sure the Romans would like to fuck you too, considering how open they are about sexual matters. :p

toga! toga! toga!

You'd be amazed. I'd rather be whistled at (yes, it's happened...no, I don't get it because I am NOT that hot) than have girls eyefuck me and giggle afterwards
You know, I've never actually done the whole giggle at guys thing before, so I wouldn't know why girls would do that.

Teehee, eyefuck. It's a funny word. LOOK! I"M VIOLATING YOU WITH MY EYES RIGHT NOW! THE HORROR! :eek:
toga! toga! toga!
Gotta love the Romans. :cool:

Seriously, most "emos" are total conformists. The actual rebels are not those who march to the beat of their own drummer, they are the ones who ARE their own drummer.

:fluffle:

I'm a trombonist.

is that close enough?

I'm a trombonist.

is that close enough?

Far too close. Take that weapon of eardrum destruction away from here!

Maybe I missed it, but perhaps neither group are rebellious non-conformist?

Its like...comparing a US soldier who unquestioningly follows orders to a British soldier who unquestioningly follows orders. Which one is more rebellious? Uh, neither.

You know, I've never actually done the whole giggle at guys thing before, so I wouldn't know why girls would do that.

Teehee, eyefuck. It's a funny word. LOOK! I"M VIOLATING YOU WITH MY EYES RIGHT NOW! THE HORROR! :eek:

Gotta love the Romans. :cool:

It's completely possible to violate somebody by doing so. It all happens in the mind, which is a powerful device. Unfortunately, human beings have quite an active imagination. It comes in handy sometimes, but in others it's downright nasty.

Better question... who the fuck cares?

NS does not need high school whining, sorry.

wow.... this song that is playing in my playlist is PERFECT for this thread! geeks in love (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/295165) by lemon demon! :D

anyways, I don't think that geeks are actually conforming (and don't go all "roman letters" this and "same language" that... you know what I mean! :rolleyes: the song really does explain it... how stupid society is, therefore nerds would mostly not like to take part in the stupidity placed apon us... though it is called geeks in LOVE it isn't about being in love really, as you can probably tell...


ok I'm tired... I'd better go to bed...

All teenagers embrace conformity, even while protesting loudly their rebellion. Always have, always will. This is your brain on raging hormones. Luckily, this, too, shall pass. This is why people in their mid-twenties look as if they just woke up: they did.

Yeah, there does seem to be an odd sort of conformity among many "rebels". Many anarchists seem to have the same problem as emos here, all embracing a single specific way of life, so ironically, I'm less conformist than many of them for listening to classical and drinking novelty coffees.

Would you guys mind if I rant to you for a bit? My track meet got cancelled, and now I cannot get even with this kid that tripped me up at Arkansas.


Seems like it is not that bad, except that at the Arkansas meet, there are tons of scouts, so he pretty much screwed me.

Any archetypes are like ninja and kung fu masters. If you can see them out in public, they're probably fakes. Real ones keep quiet and don't advertise.

Yeah, there does seem to be an odd sort of conformity among many "rebels". Many anarchists seem to have the same problem as emos here, all embracing a single specific way of life, so ironically, I'm less conformist than many of them for listening to classical and drinking novelty coffees.

That makes you just as conformist, as most anarchist crazies do listen to classical music and drink novelty coffees.

That makes you just as conformist, as most anarchist crazies do listen to classical music and drink novelty coffees.

Nah.

Yeah, there does seem to be an odd sort of conformity among many "rebels". Many anarchists seem to have the same problem as emos here, all embracing a single specific way of life, so ironically, I'm less conformist than many of them for listening to classical and drinking novelty coffees.I love subcultures that say "you aren't a real goth/metalhead/whatever because you don't whatever"

The sad fact of the matter is that if you class non-conformity as better than conformity, you're doomed to a life of either horrendous hypocrisy or social outcast. Kurt Cobain was a perfect example of this - he and Nirvana raged against the corporatism of the music industry and modern society, then revelled in their success whilst maintaining their outrage. It didn't make sense.

People who take themselves too seriously piss me right the fuck off, but as long as they don't get in my face about it I don't really care. I think I'm over my albeit short-lived rebellious phase, mainly because I now have the freedom to do as I choose. From what I'm told, my experience is fairly common. :p

Hey i was wondering, what the hell is being emo? i see all these things that emos cut themselves and just because you cut, does that make you emo?

Hey i was wondering, what the hell is being emo? i see all these things that emos cut themselves and just because you cut, does that make you emo?
Short answer: nope.

Long answer: nooooooooooooope.

Thank god for that cuz i was getting sick and tired of all these people saying that only emo people do that shit. I really don't like emo music. I listen to alot of trance and and death metal so...........

If you did not get the point of this, I am saying that there is no such thing as non-conformity, that when you do try and be a non-conformist, you end up being a total conformist.

I ask you all, who is more of the rebellious individual:

The stylish, tight-pants wearing kid, with a triangular haircut dyed black. This person wears all tight fitting cloths, claims to believe in anarchy, even though they don't know what it really is, and hangs out with like minded friends, doing drugs and alcohol and engaging in sex in order to show just how rebellious they are.

OR

The nerdy, pocket protecter wearing kid, who spends hour upon hour sitting in the library studying their hearts out, in hopes of making the grade, even if it means that the only true friend that they have is their calculator. They work tirelessly through the riducule, hoping to come out on top, damned what their peers think.



I think that it is the second, as the first is just trying to conform to a style even though they believe themselves to be non-conformists. Just like the hippies in the sixties.

Good argument.

Are you mad? I don't want any part of whatever wierd chemicals might be in Emomeat. There's no way they're FDA approved.

Cloned Emomeat is.