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Barack Obama

Christmahanikwanzikah
05-01-2007, 10:13
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?
Zilam
05-01-2007, 10:18
I heard on CNN the following:

"Its not an issue to most Americans anymore. In fact they would be suspicious of anyone that HASN'T done those things in the past" (paraphrased)


That's my take on it


Oh..and that bastard Obama still hasn't returned my emails like Mr. Durbin so kindly has. If the twat runs in 08 I will abstain from voting for him.. I mean he won't even answer his constituents now, why would he in the future?
Bookislvakia
05-01-2007, 10:19
At least he's not trying to pass them off as youthful indiscretions.
Christmahanikwanzikah
05-01-2007, 10:20
I heard on CNN the following:

"Its not an issue to most Americans anymore. In fact they would be suspicious of anyone that HASN'T done those things in the past" (paraphrased)


That's my take on it


Oh..and that bastard Obama still hasn't returned my emails like Mr. Durbin so kindly has. If the twat runs in 08 I will abstain from voting for him.. I mean he won't even answer his constituents now, why would he in the future?

so, essentially, bush admitting to smoking pot is terrible and outrageous, but obama smoked pot and did (maybe through various different ways :) ) cocaine is okay?

i know thats not what youre saying, but... still...
Zilam
05-01-2007, 10:37
so, essentially, bush admitting to smoking pot is terrible and outrageous, but obama smoked pot and did (maybe through various different ways :) ) cocaine is okay?

i know thats not what youre saying, but... still...

Im not saying either is more right or wrong than the other. But heck, I feel nowadays if I want to run for office anytime in the future, i must first rape little boys, then beat my wife, while snorting coke and then go on a high speed pursuit while DUI.
The Potato Factory
05-01-2007, 10:53
He makes me think of Baraka from Mortal Kombat.
Peisandros
05-01-2007, 10:55
Honesty is a fantastic thing. A lot better knowing theres nothing left in the closet.
Delator
05-01-2007, 10:58
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?

I would actually prefer it if my President had used Marijuana in the past. :)
Nevered
05-01-2007, 11:12
I like that he's open about his drug use.

it beats the hell out of Bill "didn't inhale" Clinton.


honestly: there are some politicians who want to paint themselves as angels, and end up looking like a tool when an old college buddy comes out with pictures showing otherwise.

that Obama can be honest about it is a good thing.
Nationalian
05-01-2007, 12:11
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?

So??? Who the fuck cares. It's his body and he can use whatever he wants. If I could deside I would legalize mary jane right away so the police can fight real drugs. Taking cocaine isn't smart but people do mistakes and I would rather vote for someone who seem to be more of a people person than some perfect upper class right winger who hasn't done anything wrong in his whole life.
Nodinia
05-01-2007, 12:23
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?


Using drugs, being addicted to drugs, and being unable to perform the non-combat task that one had been assigned (because of addiction to drugs), are all different things....
Altatha
05-01-2007, 13:14
If anything this simply gets a potentially embarrassing issue out of the way before he runs.
Khazistan
05-01-2007, 13:23
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?

He admitted it about 10 years ago in his autobiography didnt he, unless i was misinformed. Has someone just found this?
The Nazz
05-01-2007, 13:50
so, essentially, bush admitting to smoking pot is terrible and outrageous, but obama smoked pot and did (maybe through various different ways :) ) cocaine is okay?

i know thats not what youre saying, but... still...
I think what Bush actually said was "when I was young and indiscreet, I was young and indiscreet," with that doofy-ass grin he has. He never actually admitted to anything.
Teh_pantless_hero
05-01-2007, 14:27
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?

Yeah, but he is charismatic, so no one cares.
Kinda Sensible people
05-01-2007, 14:46
O Noes! Marijuana. :rolleyes:

Come off it. If drug usage really prohibitted running for office, there'd be one less chimp in the White House right now.

Besides which. Those of us who have never done drugs are in a small minority.
Congo--Kinshasa
05-01-2007, 16:17
He makes me think of Baraka from Mortal Kombat.

LOL! Same here. :p
Monkeypimp
05-01-2007, 16:27
I'll vote for him just because he has a cool name*
























*I can't vote outside New Zealand.
Nevered
05-01-2007, 17:51
O Noes! Marijuana. :rolleyes:

Come off it. If drug usage really prohibitted running for office, there'd be one less chimp in the White House right now.

Besides which. Those of us who have never done drugs are in a small minority.

umm....

*raises hand* ?


It's a mix of reasons: lack of funds, for one.

I am also of the belief that if you're dumb enough to put that shit into you, you deserve what you get. (The level of damage being in direct correlation to the amount of stupidity. I don't think Barak is stupid, per se., but let's face it: he's only human. we've all done stupid things in our lives.)
Radical Centrists
05-01-2007, 18:34
I'm one of those dudes who has never, and will never, touch the stuff. I have a lot of reasons why I haven't and I don't think particularly highly about people who have. Besides, sex is so much better.

As for Barack, I don't particularly care if he did/does drugs and I don't really like him one way or another. Doesn't matter though, he is going to get an easier shake then Bush did because he speaks well. *shrugs*
Lunatic Goofballs
05-01-2007, 18:36
not sure if this was posted before, but Barack Obama admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. not to discredit his run in 08, but it does tarnish it.

thoughts?

Not to me. Now I'm not saying I'd vote for him anyway(jury's still out), but his youthful indiscretions don't impact my decision at all as long as they were: Youthful, fleeting and comfortably in the past. *nod*
PsychoticDan
05-01-2007, 18:42
so, essentially, bush admitting to smoking pot is terrible and outrageous, but obama smoked pot and did (maybe through various different ways :) ) cocaine is okay?

i know thats not what youre saying, but... still...

Bush also did cocaine. Snorted it right off the sink at Camp david while his dad was Veep.
New Burmesia
05-01-2007, 18:44
I wish our potential leaders were a good as yours. I'd rather have someone honest than David "My Right To Privacy When I Err And Stray" Cameron.

Yes, he did use that term.
Smunkeeville
05-01-2007, 18:52
Honesty is a fantastic thing. A lot better knowing theres nothing left in the closet.

when I was a kid I would tell the truth about little things to distract my parents from the bigger stuff I was hiding.

example "I broke the microwave"

when in reality I broke the microwave and was also selling drugs.
New Burmesia
05-01-2007, 18:54
when I was a kid I would tell the truth about little things to distract my parents from the bigger stuff I was hiding.

example "I broke the microwave"

when in reality I broke the microwave and was also selling drugs.
How does telling your parents you broke the microwave hide the fact you were selling drugs?

Just out of interest.
Eve Online
05-01-2007, 18:55
At least he's not trying to pass them off as youthful indiscretions.

At least he's not saying, "I didn't inhale".

Maybe he's saying it to get some kind of street cred (which he lacks as a rich white boy in a partially black skin).
Smunkeeville
05-01-2007, 19:07
How does telling your parents you broke the microwave hide the fact you were selling drugs?

Just out of interest.

well, it was twofold, first they thought I was honest, so if I didn't tell them I was doing something I probably wasn't, second they would get pissed about it and really didn't dig much further.
Commonalitarianism
05-01-2007, 19:14
Barack Obama is one smooth dude, like smooth brandy, reading his writing is so smooth and polished that it sounds really good, but I like a little roughness around the edges. He is a bit too polished. It indicates that he is really, really smart which says a lot. Be wary. He is better than a lot of the candidates, but...
New Burmesia
05-01-2007, 19:16
well, it was twofold, first they thought I was honest, so if I didn't tell them I was doing something I probably wasn't, second they would get pissed about it and really didn't dig much further.
:cool:
Radical Centrists
05-01-2007, 19:25
well, it was twofold, first they thought I was honest, so if I didn't tell them I was doing something I probably wasn't, second they would get pissed about it and really didn't dig much further.

Heh, clever girl! Well played, that.

Could come in handy... :D
Ifreann
05-01-2007, 19:28
How does telling your parents you broke the microwave hide the fact you were selling drugs?

Just out of interest.

Haven't you used that trick? Admitting to a lesser crime to disctract attention from the larger one. It's a classic.
Andaluciae
05-01-2007, 19:35
Neither marijuana nor casual cocaine use bother me, habitual cocaine use would, but four or five times is nothing to hold against someone.

I don't give a damn about marijuana.
[NS]Fergi America
05-01-2007, 19:47
He makes me think of Baraka from Mortal Kombat.Yeah, me too!

It'll be interesting to see if "Baraka Wins!"
Utracia
05-01-2007, 19:58
Hell if he admitted it instead of lying then that is a point in his favor. As long as he doesn't do drugs NOW what does it matter if he has smoked or snorted what in the past? Hmmm. I wouldn't mind knowing what his policy is on illegal drugs though. Might be an interesting insight into the man.
Tirindor
05-01-2007, 20:08
I take umbrage with the notion that people aren't suitable to run for office who have enough virtue and common sense to know not to do illicit drugs.
Magburgadorfland
05-01-2007, 21:21
i have an intense dislike for barak obama, but i honestly dont give a crap if he used crack and cocaine. It was 25 years ago, who really cares? He's turned around and is one of the most influential people in America.