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Without pictures, it didn't happen. :p

Without pictures, it didn't happen. :p

Okay, that made me smile.

Okay, that made me smile.
:fluffle: Fluffle for thee.

He hung himself because Saddam was killed by hanging? I call bullshit.

He hung himself because Saddam was killed by hanging? I call bullshit.

You're calling bullshit on a 10 year old hanging himself?

sad :(

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Sending the body back to Guatemala? Any odds that an illegal alien took himself out?

This incident is just more proof that stupidity tends to eliminate itself from the gene pool.

You're calling bullshit on a 10 year old hanging himself?

On him doing it because Saddam died from hanging.

You're calling bullshit on a 10 year old hanging himself?

I think he's calling bullshit on the cause. It does seem like and odd thing to immitate.

Stupid kid. "Gee, I'll hang myself, so I can die just like Saddam! LOL!"

SRSLY this is a Darwin Award or something. Yeah I know he's a kid, but when I was 10 I didn't try to emulate execution methods.

Stupid kid. "Gee, I'll hang myself, so I can die just like Saddam! LOL!"

SRSLY this is a Darwin Award or something. Yeah I know he's a kid, but when I was 10 I didn't try to emulate execution methods.

He was included, or at least another kid was, but it was only an honourable mention because he was under 18 years of age.

I'd like the video. Thx.

He was included, or at least another kid was, but it was only an honourable mention because he was under 18 years of age.

Stupid Darwin Awards Society isn't it worth a bigger award when you kill your self young and minimize the damage you do to the world.

Stupid Darwin Awards Society isn't it worth a bigger award when you kill your self young and minimize the damage you do to the world.

Yeah, but they don't want to waste time with 6-year olds dying from playing with matches.

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Not to be downright awful, but, well, yeah, definitely to be downright awful, he deserved it for being so stupid as to "reenact" a hanging.

Not to be downright awful, but, well, yeah, definitely to be downright awful, he deserved it for being so stupid as to "reenact" a hanging.

And to be downright bleeding-heart-ey, no one deserves death for being stupid, no matter how stupid.

No if he got slapped for that, then yeah he would've deserved that.

And to be downright bleeding-heart-ey, no one deserves death for being stupid, no matter how stupid.


I disagree. For example, the man who was shot while robbing a gun store with police officers in it in a state where most adults have a concealed carry license deserves to die.

(For those of you wondering, he was shot at by the clerk, the policeman, and several customers. He knew the police were there, I imagine. Since he had to walk AROUND a police car to get in.)

And to be downright bleeding-heart-ey, no one deserves death for being stupid, no matter how stupid.

Maybe it's undeserved, but also unsurprising.

Stupid kid. "Gee, I'll hang myself, so I can die just like Saddam! LOL!"

Exactly what I said when I heard about this.

SRSLY this is a Darwin Award or something. Yeah I know he's a kid, but when I was 10 I didn't try to emulate execution methods.

That's what my friend said when he heard about this.

Maybe I have no soul.

I'm all for a little chlorine in the gene pool.

It's both sad and pathetic.

Sending the body back to Guatemala? Any odds that an illegal alien took himself out?

This incident is just more proof that stupidity tends to eliminate itself from the gene pool.
And your post proves that you are such a wonderful representation of perfection? :p

Not to be downright awful, but, well, yeah, definitely to be downright awful, he deserved it for being so stupid as to "reenact" a hanging.

First of all, he was 10, no innocent child deserves to be dead because of one act of stupidity.

And regardless of what people think, this is truly a tragedy. no one deserves to lose a child so early in life. i will pray for him and his family.

I call this Darwinism taking action. The boy was stupid enough to hang himself, because of what he saw on TV, so he removed his DNA. Now he won't breed and have children who do stupid stuff too. The gene pool gets a little bit cleaner.

Apparently, capital punishment is as evil an influence as video games and Marilyn Manson. Will we have an outraged mob of soccer moms demanding that executions be banned (or at least having stickers on them warning that executions are for adults only)? Probably not, because it's not as though the violence inherint in society, including capital punishment, would have an effect on the youth of today - unlike like music videos...

Apparently, capital punishment is as evil an influence as video games and Marilyn Manson. Will we have an outraged mob of soccer moms demanding that executions be banned (or at least having stickers on them warning that executions are for adults only)? Probably not, because it's not as though the violence inherint in society, including capital punishment, would have an effect on the youth of today - unlike like music videos...

Eh, it was just one stupid kid who didn't realize that when people hang, they usually DIE from it. I doubt the world lost anyone great, if anything we should be thankful that his gene is pulled out of the gene pool.

Eh, it was just one stupid kid who didn't realize that when people hang, they usually DIE from it. I doubt the world lost anyone great, if anything we should be thankful that his gene is pulled out of the gene pool.
It appears that you and New Mitanni are like two peas in a pod. We should be thankful that the kid is dead? You truly are a fine specimen of mankind. :p

It appears that you and New Mitanni are like two peas in a pod. We should be thankful that the kid is dead? You truly are a fine specimen of mankind. :p

Well if the kid at age 10 is stupid enough to do this, then he's going to be stupid enough to do something else equally as stupid later on in life that would've taken him out if the hanging himself didn't.

It appears that you and New Mitanni are like two peas in a pod. We should be thankful that the kid is dead? You truly are a fine specimen of mankind. :p

Using your stupid-powers to terminate your life before reaching reproductive age is usually prima facie evidence that you are not fit for purpose.

Had it not been this, the little dumbass would have done something else. Probably involving innocent bystanders. While not thankful per se, I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Using your stupid-powers to terminate your life before reaching reproductive age is usually prima facie evidence that you are not fit for purpose.

Had it not been this, the little dumbass would have done something else. Probably involving innocent bystanders. While not thankful per se, I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief.
Yeah, I guess you are right.....he might have grown up to be Bushlike and lead a country into a war were there are hundreds of thousands of casualties. :rolleyes:

EDIT: It is only appropriate that my 10,000th post was in reference to Bush the Lesser.

Yeah, I guess you are right.....he might have grown up to be Bushlike and lead a country into a war were there are hundreds of thousands of casualties. :rolleyes:

Hey, that was your 10,000th post. Right under the "10,000" or bust. Cool.

Edit: And I was more thinking of him ploughing a car into a bunch of pedestrians because he was fiddling with his ipod. But your example works just as well.

Yeah, I guess you are right.....he might have grown up to be Bushlike and lead a country into a war were there are hundreds of thousands of casualties. :rolleyes:

Either that or he would've brought into the bullshit the extremist are spouting and blow himself up in a mall.

Well if the kid at age 10 is stupid enough to do this, then he's going to be stupid enough to do something else equally as stupid later on in life that would've taken him out if the hanging himself didn't.

As you should know there are many levels of intelligence (u just happened to get the short end of the stick) just cuz u try to replicate something u've seen on tv dosen't make you stupid or the future leader of some sort of death squad. Two of my cousins are autistic and they are not stupid by any means, tho they do have problems and i think it would be truly low to call them stupid and better off dead just because they have a little problem

k, heres the kids future: either, as was said before, he dies in a car accident doing something dumb, kills himself playing with fire cuz of what he saw on an action movie, or joins a cult, gets his fallis cut off(which would also eliminate him from the gene pool) and then kills himself.
so heres a question no one seems to have brought up: why did a 10 year old watch a real video of a guy dying? i mean really, what is the thought process of the family, hey, this is history, i mean how many chances will he get to watch someone die? we should make him watch! and then the uncle doesnt catch on when the kid starts asking about it?
gee, i wonder if the parents were fit to raise a child...

As you should know there are many levels of intelligence (u just happened to get the short end of the stick) just cuz u try to replicate something u've seen on tv dosen't make you stupid or the future leader of some sort of death squad. Two of my cousins are autistic and they are not stupid by any means, tho they do have problems and i think it would be truly low to call them stupid and better off dead just because they have a little problem

Yea, but I doubt your cousins would hang themselves just because they saw it on Television. Oh and by the by, before trying to insult or critique my intelligence, you might want to brush up on your spelling, and grammar.

k, heres the kids future: either, as was said before, he dies in a car accident doing something dumb, kills himself playing with fire cuz of what he saw on an action movie, or joins a cult, gets his fallis cut off(which would also eliminate him from the gene pool) and then kills himself.
so heres a question no one seems to have brought up: why did a 10 year old watch a real video of a guy dying? i mean really, what is the thought process of the family, hey, this is history, i mean how many chances will he get to watch someone die? we should make him watch! and then the uncle doesnt catch on when the kid starts asking about it?
gee, i wonder if the parents were fit to raise a child...

I thought the kid watched it on his own, but yes, it does make the parents ability to raise a child questionable.

Yea, but I doubt your cousins would hang themselves just because they saw it on Television. Oh and by the by, before trying to insult or critique my intelligence, you might want to brush up on your spelling, and grammar.

First of all this is not a spelling competition, nor is it some sort of test on who has the best grammer, i spell like this purely for the sake of simplicity as many my age do. (Stupid texting)

oh and everybody who says he would have just been some sort of cult leader of mass murdurer, i suppose all of ya'll are fortune tellers now, so then why didn't you foresee this mayhem in Iraq and say something. You know Albert Einstein was dumb too maybe he just never had the oppertunity to witness a hanging so young in life, maybe he would have hung himself too.

First of all this is not a spelling competition, nor is it some sort of test on who has the best grammer, i spell like this purely for the sake of simplicity as many my age do. (Stupid texting)

oh and everybody who says he would have just been some sort of cult leader of mass murdurer, i suppose all of ya'll are fortune tellers now, so then why didn't you foresee this mayhem in Iraq and say something. You know Albert Einstein was dumb too maybe he just never had the oppertunity to witness a hanging so young in life, maybe he would have hung himself too.

No, Albert just sucked at school work and didn't talk until he was 4. He was a "late" bloomer. Of course I doubt even Einstein would be stupid enough to hang himself just because he wanted to see what it was like. You cannot possibly compare this kid to Albert Einstein. Nice try though, and this just makes your attempt to question my intelligence even more laughable. As to the spelling and grammar, I have always held to the fact that a person who speaks "txt" is either lazy or has questionable intelligence.

First of all this is not a spelling competition, nor is it some sort of test on who has the best grammer, i spell like this purely for the sake of simplicity as many my age do. (Stupid texting)

oh and everybody who says he would have just been some sort of cult leader of mass murdurer, i suppose all of ya'll are fortune tellers now, so then why didn't you foresee this mayhem in Iraq and say something. You know Albert Einstein was dumb too maybe he just never had the oppertunity to witness a hanging so young in life, maybe he would have hung himself too.

No he wasn't.
He was dumb if you read his (German) grades by the Swiss system. In German he was brilliant.

EDIT: Short explanation.
German grades grade (may be reversing it) from 1-5 with one being the highest.
Swiss grades grade from one to five with five being the highest.
Einstein got mostly 1's and 2's, so by the swiss system he got failing grades.
The problem is he was in the German school system at that point, so 1's and 2's were good.

EDIT2: Read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstien#Speculation_and_controversy).
And yes, I reversed the explanation. Actually, I double reversed it, and cut off a number. Go me!

No, Albert just sucked at school work and didn't talk until he was 4. He was a "late" bloomer. Of course I doubt even Einstein would be stupid enough to hang himself just because he wanted to see what it was like. You cannot possibly compare this kid to Albert Einstein. Nice try though, and this just makes your attempt to question my intelligence even more laughable. As to the spelling and grammar, I have always held to the fact that a person who speaks "txt" is either lazy or has questionable intelligence.

Could this kid have been any different. Whos to say, surely i could not argue with someone as wise and grand as you. As for texting, try no minutes or the other person being able to accept calls, tho i guess you wouldnt know that, its ok. As for my "questionable intellegence", yeah im a senior in the University of Texas majoring in Archaeology with a minor in nursing not to mention my 1400 SAT score. just cuz im not the brightest bulb here hardly makes me the dimmest

Yea, but I doubt your cousins would hang themselves just because they saw it on Television. Oh and by the by, before trying to insult or critique my intelligence, you might want to brush up on your spelling, and grammar.
And punctuation and capitalization and so on and so on.

Could this kid have been any different. Whos to say, surely i could not argue with someone as wise and grand as you. As for texting, try no minutes or the other person being able to accept calls, tho i guess you wouldnt know that, its ok. As for my "questionable intellegence", yeah im a senior in the University of Texas majoring in Archaeology with a minor in nursing not to mention my 1400 SAT score. just cuz im not the brightest bulb here hardly makes me the dimmest.

and the same could be said of me. Regardless, anyone who hangs himself because they're playing make-believe or see what it was like (if we believe that he watched the entire hanging, was an idiot.

assuming this kid saw it on TV then tried it just cuz he saw it, anyone who says he will LEAD a cult or murder people are misreading the kid. anyone who dies this way is a born follower. if you kill yourself because you saw someone else do it, chances are you are not going to have the strength to overcome the will of another. the world didnt exactly loose the worlds next great leader here. or any kind of leader.
in conclusion: on an emotional level, the death of a child is tragic and should be mourned
on an intellectual level, we didnt loose anything here. probably for the better the kid killed himself on accident before he learned how many people out there can(and would have) used him.

Yea, but I doubt your cousins would hang themselves just because they saw it on Television. Oh and by the by, before trying to insult or critique my intelligence, you might want to brush up on your spelling, and grammar.

:confused: You see, forums like this are a mixture between formality and chat. It's whoever prefers what. I prefer in being formal. Some people maybe don't spend all day typing in a cave (like me) and don't have enough time/patience to type out whole sentences with perfect grammar. And patience has nothing whatsoever to do with anybody's intelligence.

I don't think that his parents should have let him watch it in the first place. I mean, my parents wouldn't let my sisters (who are like 5 and 8) watch it.

Kid hanging himself from his bunk during the night?
He was trying to emulate Saddam?
mmm.....

Here's another idea: autoerotic asphyxiation.


He's about the age where kids start getting curious about finding out what's pleasurable. So it's not too contrived to consider he stumbled upon this type of masturbatory technique and was trying it out. Unfortunately, unlike using your mum's handcream, this one can lead to fatalities (unless your mum catches you using her handcream).
Just ask Michael Hutchence (of course you'll need an ouija board to do so). Or that Tory MP, Stephen Milligan.


The mother blaming Saddam is either in denial, or the paramedics decided not to tell her the truth. Bad enough to have your 10 yr old son hang himself, but to be then told he did it to make his wanking more fun...

*Hides rope behind back*

Look the last thing i wanted was to cause any kind of trouble. Wilgrove, to you I apologize for questioning your intellegence. I just think that he deserves a little more compassion. I hear everybody saying, "We're so much better off, dumbass would have killed everyone." Its just that all these things are being based on assumption. Nobody knows who this kid was or what he was like, it could have been your own kid. I just think that people should realize this as it really is, a tragic incident that should have been avoided(regardless of what you think of his intellegence). I think if you can't realize this then you truly have no compassion and are a sad excuse for a human being.

Personally, I think there is no way this reason could be right.
If it is, then the kid is not Einstein by any stretch of the imagination.
Who hangs themselves because they saw it on TV?

Something seems questionable about the story. I think that too few of us seem to forget just how advanced 10 year old are. At that age, in the absence of some serious trauma or developmental disabilities, the kid should have understood the consequences of his actions. By 10 normal people already have a fairly sophisticated understanding of permanence, they're almost through the concrete operational stage of cognitive development, they are fully able to comprehend the concept of death, they understand right vs. wrong and have a fully developed superego, they have advanced problem solving abilities. I think it is unlikely that this boy was imitating something he saw on TV that he didn't understand, maybe if he was 6 but not at 10.

That points to other reasons, and since suicide at that age isn't too common, I'm gonna go with accidental. The poster who mentioned autoerotic asphyxiation is probably off. I doubt that a 10 year old (especially one who looks like this one) is far enough along in sexual development to be able to acheive orgasm, much less to be experimenting with relatively advanced kinds of sexual experimentation. More likely is that, like many kids in his age range, he has discovered that cutting off oxygen gets you high. Its fun, like spinning around in circles, but sometimes you screw up and die.

Blaming it on Saddam's hanging is probably just the family's attempt to make sense of a seemingly senseless event. The execution was in close proximity, so it gets the blame.

Personally, I think there is no way this reason could be right.
If it is, then the kid is not Einstein by any stretch of the imagination.
Who hangs themselves because they saw it on TV?

You would be amazed by what kids copy off of Television.

Even at 10, I realised that I could have fun in other ways than mimicking the executions of deposed dictators. Kids these days!

:rolleyes: I suppose that everybody except who is to blame (which is either no one, the kid, or the parents) is going to cop shit for this. Why can't people just blame ten year olds for there death instead of everything else. If you think that hanging yourself is a good idea. There was probably something wrong with you before you turned on the TV that morning.

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You're probably right.

Two words for you.

Choking Game. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choking_game)

Never underestimate the stupidity of children, the irresponsibility of parents, and the bullshit those two can manifest when combined.

More likely is that, like many kids in his age range, he has discovered that cutting off oxygen gets you high. Its fun, like spinning around in circles, but sometimes you screw up and die.

Blaming it on Saddam's hanging is probably just the family's attempt to make sense of a seemingly senseless event. The execution was in close proximity, so it gets the blame.


QFT

Okay, I agree this was almost certianly an accident. However, I can believe the choking game. But AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION? That's the most disgusting idea proposed here. I mean, come on.

Although I'm afraid you're wrong, JCLLM. Kids of any age can achieve orgasm, they just don't begin to ejaculate until later.

Although I'm afraid you're wrong, JCLLM. Kids of any age can achieve orgasm, they just don't begin to ejaculate until later.

Sorry, maybe I wasn't quite precise enough. I said he was likely unable to acheive orgasm. I was maybe overstating a bit. A 10 year old boy who hasn't hit puberty yet would require some pretty extreme physical stimulation to elicit and orgasm. Sure, its a physiological possibility but its so unlikely you might as well call it impossible. More to the point he isn't likely to be masturbating beyond simple physical stimulation. At that age masturbation is much like infantile masturbation: some kids do it because it feels good but, barring a history of sexual abuse, there isn't really a goal or intent like there is with people who have entered the genital phase. A look at the kid tells me theres a good chance hes still in latency, which means quiet drives and a focus on skill development and play, which tends to support the theory of the choking game.

Two words for you.

Choking Game. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choking_game)

Never underestimate the stupidity of children, the irresponsibility of parents, and the bullshit those two can manifest when combined.
I'll admit to playing the "choking game" a couple of years ago. The guy who showed us called it a "natural high". I used the Strangulation method. It was really bizarre. I was curious, don't hate me.

I'll admit to playing the "choking game" a couple of years ago. The guy who showed us called it a "natural high". I used the Strangulation method. It was really bizarre. I was curious, don't hate me.

Yeah, natural. If by natural you mean more brain damaging than those evil drugs, then yeah.

...this is what abstainance based drug education gets you: kids who think its safe because its natural.

so the boy was curious. who cares as one of you already said you dont know him or what he was like. Besides the mother blaming it on the video of saddam dieing by hanging. thats like saying im gonna go kill everyone in the house cause in a video game everyone in the house is evil and needs to be killed. ppl need to quit blaming everything on something else. its person who commits the things problems not the thing that he sees or does.

I blame Bush and the gun crazy Americans. :mad:

Jesus Christ, they showed him getting executed on TV?! And we call him barbaric....

First off South Islands we americans did not make this kid kill himself he was just retarded.

And RSU they did not show the actual hanging on the news they showed snipets of him walking to the gallows. the movie is on google videos though.

Another idiot hangs himself. This one is a grown one. Go figure.

http://ia.rediff.com/news/2007/jan/07suicide.htm
Pak student commits suicide after watching Saddam execution video

PTI | January 07, 2007 | 19:50 IST

Depressed over the execution of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussain, a 22-year-old Pakistani madrassa student hanged himself, police said in Islamabad.

Mohammad Usman Haider had become extremely depressed after watching the largely-circulated videotape of Saddam's execution on television, DSP Industrial Area Jameel Hashmi said.

Haider, who had studied the Holy Quran by heart, left his house for Aabpara market on Saturday and hanged himself with a waistband tied to the ceiling of a bathroom on returning home, the Dawn daily quoted Hashmi as saying.

He said Haider had apparently committed suicide after watching Saddam's execution.

On January 1 a nine-year-old boy, who tried to copy hanging scenes from the execution video of Saddam, accidentally hanged himself at his home in central Pakistan.

His parents should have controlled what he was watching; it's just like violent video games I tell ya.

Darwin Awards FTW!

I blame Bush and the gun crazy Americans. :mad:

I blame Ruffy. ;)

I think the kid was just very uninformed.. a bit too curious and unless he got the rope, strung it up and did the deed within 5 minutes .. didn't have proper supervision. Shit happens.. very sad. He didn't have an older brother did he? Actually sounds to me like something an older sibling would do using their little bro as a test subject.

I swear, video games will get involved in this somehow.