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Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

Kreynoria;12165708']Are there any religious people here?

*snort* :D

Are you joking?

Kreynoria;12165708']Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

look around young one... ;)

Yes, but I don't like the label. It has the connotation of Pharisees to me. I suppose it's true by denotation, but I don't like the connotation.

Kreynoria;12165708']Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

There was two christian and a muslim for sure...

Liberal =/= irreligious.

best comedy thread of the year!


/so far

Yup, we're all godless baby eating liberal commies.






D'ya think I scared him off?

No, I'm just curious because I see all these conservative-bashing religion-bashing threads. I hang around a lot but don't post much.

Im theistic, but "religious" seems to imply that I hold myself to some rigorous pre-constructed pattern or system, and I do not.

Kreynoria;12165708']Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

What have you done?!?

I am very extremely religious.

By religious I mean do you follow a religion.

Kreynoria;12165758']No, I'm just curious because I see all these conservative-bashing religion-bashing threads. I hang around a lot but don't post much.

That's cos most of us are liberal and/or atheist. IMS.

Yup, we're all godless baby eating liberal commies.


BAH! I'm godless baby-eating, liberal-eating, commie-eating liberal.

Is the Pope catholic?

Ain't that much fun with no other conservatives around.

There was two christian and a muslim for sure...

who are the Christians, I am pretty sure that you mean Sovietstan as the Muslim.

I am a Christian myself.

Kreynoria;12165708']agnostic, or just disinterested.

isn't that the same thing :p

and welcome to the internets!

Kreynoria;12165786']Ain't that much fun with no other conservatives around.

There's hundreds of conservatives here.

Catholic and conservative. *Prepares for argument*

There's hundreds of conservatives here.

They don't talk as much as the libs do.

BAH! I'm godless baby-eating, liberal-eating, commie-eating liberal.
You eat yourself?
Is the Pope catholic?

Ahem.
*points to sig*

Is the Pope catholic?
for some reason that reminds me of what we used to say in high school: does the pope masturbate (intending to mean yes, gross the person out and possibly offend people; the latter two being the sort of thing we liked to do in high school)

There are a lot of "religious" people, like "conservative christians?" But not too many real Christians. Just like in the real world.

Kreynoria;12165813']They don't talk as much as the libs do.

They talk more. Perhaps you just don't notice them.

I am an RC on an extended vacation......

Yes, yes I am.

I am a person of faith.

Kreynoria;12165813']They don't talk as much as the libs do.

were in hiding you see.:p

Ain't that much fun with no other conservatives around.

Hey don't worry, im a religious conservative too. But shhhh, don't tell no one *looks around nervously* While ive been baptised as a Luthern my beliefs are mainly in God and i do not follow any strict organized religion, i kinda study all different kinds, including many polytheistic religions

Liberal =/= irreligious.

Not true. I am fairly liberal and consider myself very religous

Not true. I am fairly liberal and consider myself very religous

Thus the "not equal to" sign.

Kreynoria;12165708']Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

Given the current state of Christianity, is it any wonder so many people are disenfranchised from it?

The scandals, the birth-control issues, the radical examples on television denouncing vehemently against anything that they disagree with..

Theres a line from "Dogma" that goes "You people dont celebrate your faith, you mourn it."

Take a listen to the average Catholic Mass.
Its so incredibly boring, it sounds like a funeral for Jesus, every single time.
This isnt celebrating the life "God" gave you...its mourning the loss of an abstract concept, wich is ridiculous in and of itself.

Why would anyone want to join the "Eternally despondent Jesus moaners"?

Theres at least one Thelemite lurking around somewhere.

Given the current state of Christianity, is it any wonder so many people are disenfranchised from it?

The scandals, the birth-control issues, the radical examples on television denouncing vehemently against anything that they disagree with..

Theres a line from "Dogma" that goes "You people dont celebrate your faith, you mourn it."

Take a listen to the average Catholic Mass.
Its so incredibly boring, it sounds like a funeral for Jesus, every single time.
This isnt celebrating the life "God" gave you...its mourning the loss of an abstract concept, wich is ridiculous in and of itself.

Why would anyone want to join the "Eternally despondent Jesus moaners"?

Not every religious person ascribes to messianic cults, or even judaic monotheism. Hell, a lot of us don't really have much interest in organizations stripped of tradition or ceremony lead by men in purple dresses.

I am religious - specifically, Jewish.

Liberal =/= irreligious.

Very true. Christianity :sniper: Liberal

I am religious - specifically, Jewish.

I, too, am very religious. I respect Judaism greatly, but I am a Christian.

Thus the "not equal to" sign.

Very true. Christianity :sniper: Liberal

lol.

Why bother?

lol.

Why bother?

It kinda worries me...

Not enough to actually care, but...ya know...

*shrug*:p

I think you may find some spiritual people here, but few traditionally religious.

I, too, am very religious. I respect Judaism greatly, but I am a Christian.

curious, if you are a christian how could you respect judaism. Or, to put it another way, how would you respect a faith that is fundamentally opposed to your own, that disagrees with its most basic premise?

It's sort of like "I respect jews...they're just wrong". Sorta how a parent might respect a child.

I find it difficult to believe you respect the faith while at the same time saying things like this:

I will be praying for you. I truly hope you will accept Christ as the Lord, so you can be saved. Christianity is confusing when you don't believe, but you will understand it if you accept it. I repeat, I will pray for you. I pray that God will bless you.

Kreynoria;12165758']No, I'm just curious because I see all these conservative-bashing religion-bashing threads. I hang around a lot but don't post much.

modern american "conservatives" hold nearly no "conservative" religious values. I paraphased the sermon on the mount once and got called a marxist for it, on this forum. most "conservatives" hold religious ideals that are less than 200 years old. biblical literalism, for example, is not a historically grounded practice within the christian tradition - and hardly any other religions think their sacred texts are literal, factual histories. metaphor is dozens of times more important and useful than fact, as far as religious experience goes.

That's cos most of us are liberal and/or atheist. IMS.

again, I am extremely religious, and my opinions on ethical positions would be perfectly familiar to any number of people thousands of years ago - there's nothing *new* about my views, which by definition makes them "conservative", but I disagree with nearly all modern "conservatives"...and a large chunk of modern "liberals" too. most liberals are slaves of fashion. people who are atheists in modern america would just as likely have been militant religious fanatics in a culture where that was in vogue...:rolleyes: but I digress...my point is that "liberal" and "conservative" are kind of dysfunctional words in the context of religious tradition. the franciscan order holds extremely traditional and dictionary-conservative values, but if they were to apply them in a political arena, they'd be denounced as leftist extremists.

I would consider myself to be a religious person.

Take a listen to the average Catholic Mass.
Its so incredibly boring, it sounds like a funeral for Jesus, every single time.
This isnt celebrating the life "God" gave you...its mourning the loss of an abstract concept, wich is ridiculous in and of itself.


Well, obviously. And it sort of is. Except for the ritual canabalism bit at the end.

And it sort of is

I'm not a catholic, I think many of the church's claims are outright laughable.

but...no, it is not. not even remotely.

Kreynoria;12165758']No, I'm just curious because I see all these conservative-bashing religion-bashing threads. I hang around a lot but don't post much.

I bet seeing two or three threads like such make you feel like a victim? Aww!

Nope. I haven't seen a single religious person around here, ever.

i consider myself very religeous. and very NONchristian or any other form of monotheism or any other form of organized beleif or any form of anything that pretends to know what the hell it's talking about when it comes to real sacredness and belief.

i believe in being honest about not knowing what we don't know and in loving that very mistery and wierdness of it being things that we don't and are intrinsicly unlikely to be able to know.

and i'm not saying that as any sort of put on or anything.
this is what i honestly and very sincerely believe.

=^^=
.../\...

Kreynoria;12165708']Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

Religious how? I go to church on occasion and keep my views to myself unless I'm asked.

Ahem.
*points to sig*

Well then. Are you? :p

Yes I would say that I am.

Kreynoria;12165708']Everyone here seems atheist, agnostic, or just disinterested.

yes, but I don't use it to shove my personal religion down the throat of another.

hmm......don't know.

Kreynoria;12165758']No, I'm just curious because I see all these conservative-bashing religion-bashing threads. I hang around a lot but don't post much.

what most of us "bash" is when people use their rigid view of the wrold to try and tell everyone else how to live. Eg. People who don't like gay marriage shouldn't get involved with one is my viewpoint. I am not gay, therefor I won't tell gay people who they may love. I do not however think it it is my right to "save the children" from the horrible calamity that is homosexuality. After all, homoseuxals all are sexual devient who want to rape our children and turn them into honmosecual atheists. Oh, and God hates them right? :cool: Does that clear up the issue or make it more cloudy?

I don't see why you have to be athiest to be a liberal. I'm a Catholic, and I'm somewhat religious, but I don't agree with conservative policies or values, so I'm much more liberal minded. For instance, my mom is an uber-catholic religious type, but even she is a registed member of the ontario liberal party, and even used to campaign for them.

There are a lot of "religious" people, like "conservative christians?" But not too many real Christians. Just like in the real world.
I'm a left-wing Christian, but you surely have a high horse that needs dismounting there.