NationStates Jolt Archive

Who do you think would be the best choice for a presidential nominee for the Democratic party in the 2008 presidential election and why?

Barack Hussein Obama.

Why will he probably lose?

I just told you.

Obama has had a somewhat slim political career and i dont really know what Mrs. Clinton has as far as a foreign policy...

I'd really rather see Nader as the DNC favorite ;)

Barack Hussein Obama.

Why will he probably lose?

I just told you.

lol. All I got to say is amlost every doesn't use their middle name and its stupid and will most likley be a tactic by the republicans. Just as anaylyst kept on using his middle name on Christ Matthews.

Anyway Obama without little doubt.

Charles Other.

why is John Kerry even on this poll?! with the embarrasment he made for the democrats about Iraq, i doubt hed be supported by many of the political powers in the dem camp

I think that if Gore decides to run he'll get it automatically with no challenge. My dream ticket would be Gore Pres and Obama VPres

Why isn't suicide an option?

all sharpton and peter kosinich.

of course i'd like to see gerry brown, or even a hart/jackson ticket.

hillary is a probable and might actualy win. i'd almost certainly vote for her unless there was someone i wanted more who was actualy in the running and had a snow flakes chance.

they need to run someone who WON'T be a twiddle dum candidate, but who also won't alienate too many potential allies, wile at the same time demonstrating a willingness to risk such alienation to uphold the REAL principals that so called conservatives have demonstrated an unwillingness to honestly and actualy give a rats ass about.

that's a hell of a tightrope to try and balance on and i don't claim to know how to do it.

there are many names i can dredge up form the past, like the examples i've already mentioned, but i don't know who they have in their current stable well enough to pick a best bet.

considering the success the retardlicans have had running entertainment idols, and considering the need for america to break the mold of male wasps, someone like aretha franklin, mia angelo, or perhapse opra winfrie would make a good nominee.

(you know, nations that pay a LOT less lipservice to women't rights and equality then the u.s., nations that have been, and remain, culturaly, male dominated traditions, nations that strongly suppress the rights of women even, HAVE, and HAVE HAD women presidents, while the u.s., in all its self ritiousness has yet to. merely ironic coincidence? or is there still some deeper problem?)

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On that list...Wesley Clark.

Which makes it a mighty sad list.

Obama has a good chance. Though Edwards and Dean are pretty descent.

Tom Vilsack.

From the list, Edwards. He has had the national spotlight on him, but hasn't embarrassed himself or been polarizing like Kerry or Hillary.

I like Al Gore. He's grown himself a very nice personality over the years.

And I like how he tries to raise awareness on manbearpig. Manbearpig is a super serial threat!

Bill Richardson,or perhaps Brian Schweitzer from Montana.The Democratic party will never again(and Im serious-never)win another Presidential election if it continues being the party that included people like Howard Dean as possible Presidential candidates.They need to run a dark-horse Western candidate,who is more of a centrist.I will probably prefer the Republican candidate in most cases,but so far Im really unimpressed.John McCain and Rudy Guiliani are both terrible candidates,very unpopular with the base and show that the party hasnt learned a thing since the midterms.Let me just look at each individual candidate:

Hillary Clinton-Extreme leftwinger,has very strong negative name recognition among the right.The principal estasblishent candidate,has the most money and support system,she is generally thought of as a frontrunner but I think nobody candidates are gonna have a good year.In partiicular,I think she will narrowly lose California and Michigan and the GOP candidate will top 70% across the South.
My Prediction if nominated-Loses 404-134 56-44

Barack Obama-Will fizzle out.People potray him as some sort of uniter who will win centrist votes,but his voting record shows him to be a garden variety liberal.,I think he will be unacceptable to most of the country.He will,I think,lose Ohio 56-44.
My Prediction-Loses 351-187 57-43

John Kerry-Will,I believe not have a much of a shot at winning the nomination.If he does,though,he will lose New Hampshire,Oregon,and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania this time around.My Prediction-Loses 328-210 54-46

Joe Biden-Will not win the nomination.He runs every time and never gets above 4 percent of the primary vote.

John Edwards-He doesnt seem to have much momentum,without much of an agenda.but if he wins,its one of the few winnable candidates.Wins a part of the South,along with all the swing states.Loses North Carolina,though.My Prediction-Wins 369-169 52-48

Bill Richardson-Outside shot candidacy.This one is tossup if he is nominated.Will narrowly capture Florida,New Mexico,Nevada.Wil not take Iowa and New Hampshire.Colarado and Ohio very close,will decide the election.Will lose Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.My Prediction Loses with 255-254 locked up,29 votes in play.Popular vote 50-49

Wesley Clark-Will not win the nomination.

Edwards or Obama.

I like Edwards more, but I can't forgive his vote for the war.

Edit: Though if I'm allowed to give a dream-world proposal, it'd be a Rick Conyers/Barbara Lee ticket.

Bill Richardson,or perhaps Brian Schweitzer from Montana.The Democratic party will never again(and Im serious-never)win another Presidential election if it continues being the party that included people like Howard Dean as possible Presidential candidates.They need to run a dark-horse Western candidate,who is more of a centrist.I will probably prefer the Republican candidate in most cases,but so far Im really unimpressed.John McCain and Rudy Guiliani are both terrible candidates,very unpopular with the base and show that the party hasnt learned a thing since the midterms.Let me just look at each individual candidate I think does not have much of a chance:

Hillary Clinton-Extreme leftwinger,has very strong negative name recognition among the right.The principal estasblishent candidate,has the most money and support system,she is generally thought of as a frontrunner but I think nobody candidates are gonna have a good year.In partiicular,I think she will narrowly lose California and Michigan and the GOP candidate will top 70% across the South.
My Prediction if nominated-Loses 404-134 56-44

Barack Obama-Will fizzle out.People potray him as some sort of uniter who will win centrist votes,but his voting record shows him to be a garden variety liberal.In particular,I think he will be unacceptable to most of the country.He will,I think,lose Ohio 56-44.
My Prediction-Loses 351-187 57-43

John Kerry-Will,I believe not have a much of a shot at winning the nomination.If he does,though,he will lose New Hampshire,Oregon,and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania if he runs.My Prediction-Loses 328-210 54-46

Joe Biden-Will not win the nomination.He runs every time and never gets above 4 percent of the primary vote.

1. Schweitzer is not a centrist. I live in Montana, I am good friends with his son. I would know. He is fairly progressive.

2. Hillary is the most centrist democrat of them all. There is nothing "extreme" about her.

3. The democratic party can't simply cater to the center. That is just stupid. Eventually, the democratic base will move to greener pastures if this keeps up. Not that I'd care if the democratic party fizzled out.

From the list, Edwards. He has had the national spotlight on him, but hasn't embarrassed himself or been polarizing like Kerry or Hillary.

Edwards would have the problem of his background in the way. Too many people see him as an ambulance chaser driving up the cost of healthcare - and the Republicans would be sure to characterize him that way.

Not to mention his complete inability to state his own opinions in the 2004 race. Made him look like nothing more than a patsy for John Kerry.

I like Al Gore. He's grown himself a very nice personality over the years.

No he hasn't. I met him in person along with the rest of my family at a book signing. He was patronizing and pandering the whole way through. He disgusts me.

As for my choices: Barack Obama and/or Bill Richardson. I dislike everyone else with varying levels. Even Richardson is occasionally at odds with me. Only Obama pulls off charisma, plus he has a head for an energy policy. And a sense of humor. (Bears joke, anyone?)

I'd like a Gore/Obama or an Edwards/Obama ticket.

Obama all the way but if not him then Edwards, Gore, or perhaps even Richardson. None of the other people and definately not Hillary Clinton. Brian Schweitzer would make a good President but I don't think he is going to run.

Edwards would have the problem of his background in the way. Too many people see him as an ambulance chaser driving up the cost of healthcare - and the Republicans would be sure to characterize him that way.This could be a problem, yes, but is it worse than the problems the other candidates have?

Not to mention his complete inability to state his own opinions in the 2004 race. Made him look like nothing more than a patsy for John Kerry.I think this could be fixed by having him, well, state his own opinions. This would best be begun before he announces his plan to run, if he has such plans.

Edwards already announced his plan to run.

Had a similar poll recently. Slightly diff question...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512572&highlight=obama

I'm not American, But as non-american person I'd like to see Al Gore running for president.

Charles Other.

I'd like to see a Clark Obama ticket or vice versa. Wesley Clark is not a poltiican, he's a leader. We need more leadership and less political hackery to go around.

Gore in Eight!