NationStates Jolt Archive

Now, hear me out. I'd like to point out that two of the finest civilizations in the history of the world were run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles, Ancient Greece and Rome.

So I ask you: Would you live in a country run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles? I'm not saying how these people would run it, but just on principle, knowing they were bi/homosexual and attracted to teenagers, would you support them?

(For those of you wondering, ephebephiles are attracted to teenagers.)

Well, if the relationships were egalitarian and genuinely consensual, and the country was not built upon imperialism and a savage class system that incorporated slavery, I would have no objection.

Oh, yeah - and it would have to be fully tolerant of alternative sexual arrangements, straight, bisexual, gay, or whatever, as well.

Well, if the relationships were egalitarian and genuinely consensual, and the country was not built upon imperialism and a savage class system that incorporated slavery, I would have no objection.

Oh, yeah - and it would have to be fully tolerant of alternative sexual arrangements, straight, bisexual, gay, or whatever, as well.

Yeah, it is. They aren't raping teenagers or anything. And there fine with anyone marrying anyone else. Even polygamy.

whats wrong with milfs :mad:

whats wrong with milfs :mad:

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I looked that up on Urban Dictionary. I don't think I even MENTIONED Milfs.

1. Its spelled ephebOphile, apparently.
I had to look it up on dictionary.com to even know what the hell it meant.

2. Since the term literally applied to teens approximately aged 18, and were considered adults, I wouldnt have any problem with it as long as everything was kosher.

I wouldnt encourage it either.

Theres a HUGE differrence in maturity between someone 18, and someone 25.
Let alone any larger gap.

SNIP

*shakes head*

whats wrong with milfs :mad:

Absolutely nothing, but that seems completely irrelevant.

Sex, sex, sex. Always about sex.

I love sex. Very few activities present such opportunities for inexpensive fun like sex does. But it simply is no basis for a class system. THe bottom line is that I don't care who fucks what as long as they have permission from the fuckee(and the fuckee is old enough to grant that consent as defined by the specifics of that culture).

I think the world will be a much better place once people outgrow their obsession with labeling people based on who or what they boink. *nod*

Hey! Someone voted for "How do you think of this shit?" I was waiting for that to happen!

Sex, sex, sex. Always about sex.


Damn Straight. Or hell, it doesn't have to be straight. Damn Homo. Either way, Yes, it is always about sex.

I think the world will be a much better place once people outgrow their obsession with labeling people based on who or what they boink. *nod*

Oh, but how else will I know who will and who won't have sex with me?

"Hi, um... can you give the genders of the last ten people you've had sex with?"

Oh, but how else will I know who will and who won't have sex with me?

"Hi, um... can you give the genders of the last ten people you've had sex with?"

I agree. It's much better when you don't have to worry about it, or get creeped out when they say "I dunno, it's hard to tell with some animals"

In principle? Sure. I don't care who's leading the country. As long as they cater to me, I'm good.

Oh, but how else will I know who will and who won't have sex with me?

"Hi, um... can you give the genders of the last ten people you've had sex with?"

Here's how:

Presenting the Lunatic Goofball's Guide to Determining Sexual Compatibility:

Person 1: "Wanna?"

Person 2: "Sure."

<boinking begins>

Fin

:D

Here's how:

Presenting the Lunatic Goofball's Guide to Determining Sexual Compatibility:

Person 1: "Wanna?"

Person 2: "Sure."

<boinking begins>

Fin

:D

Yeah, that's how it should be, my friend.

I agree. It's much better when you don't have to worry about it, or get creeped out when they say "I dunno, it's hard to tell with some animals"

"And last week's corpse was a bit too rotten to be sure."

Person 1: "Wanna?"

Person 2: "Sure."

Ah, but who to ask?

Ah, but who to ask?

Everyone you meet.

Ah, but who to ask?

Who cares? In my perfect world, nobody's going to punch you in the nose or gang up on you in the parking lot with three of his redneck buddies, torture you, tie you to the back of their pickup truck and drag you down the street for several miles, eventually leaving you to die alone just because you asked the wrong person. :p

But then again, I always did dream extravagantly. *nod*

Everyone you meet.

Oh, that'll be fun.

"Hi, I'm Soheran."

"Hi, I'm <generic hot intelligent funny kind left-wing philosophical male>."

"So... wanna fuck?"

"Um..." *runs*

I think that method needs some work.

I was considering two replies (I voted yes)

A: Yes, I would love to run a country.
B: I think I already do live in that country.

But then again, I always did dream extravagantly. *nod*

You and me both. :)

But my fears aren't so severe as that. It's just that most straight males these days, even the more liberal ones, have... um... weird attitudes towards homosexuality and bisexuality, and while the reactions would just be funny in some cases, they would be rather uncomfortable in others.

And as for Luntic Goofballs idea on sex.

Recently I got bored, so I tried that. Basically saying to everyone I meet "I want to get into your pants"

I'm now in a relationship, and I was taken up on two other offers.

Try it, what you got to lose? (Ok, maybe not in like, the bible belt or whatever, but in a lefty area, you can always pass it off as a joke :))

Everyone's attracted to teenagers as long as they keep their mouths shut.

Absolutely nothing, but that seems completely irrelevant.

Not really The one in power would be the milf ... he is looking at it from the perspective of a teenager rather then what everyone else is looking at it from
The perspective of the ones in power

Oh, that'll be fun.

"Hi, I'm Soheran."

"Hi, I'm <generic hot intelligent funny kind left-wing philosophical male>."

"So... wanna fuck?"

"Um..." *runs*

I think that method needs some work.

That could probably get you a :fluffle:

That could probably get you a :fluffle:

With enough tries, maybe. But I have too much self-respect (okay, pompous arrogance) to repeat that routine a dozen or so times.

With enough tries, maybe. But I have too much self-respect (okay, pompous arrogance) to repeat that routine a dozen or so times.

Well, a little reconnaissance can go a long way. for instance, the big fat guy wearing blood-spattered camoflage and pounding his fifth budweiser may not be your type. He probably hasn't fully come to terms with his sexual identity.

On the other hand, the lone frat guy with the sculpted hair and the t-shirt that says, "Nice shoes. Let's fuck." Might be a good starting place. :)

I would most certainly live in Ancient Greece/Rome. Their bisexuality is in fact a relief - there was little discrimination based on sexual preference whether one be gay, straight or in between.

Their sexual problems deal with women, and with the abhorrance they treated femininity with. That, along with the legalization of slavery would be the socio-political problems that'd be most worrisome.

Run by them? Well, I care less about my leaders' sexual appetites and more about their skills and politics.

Populated by them? That level of moral decadence, I would not stay for long.

Sure, why not?

Theres a HUGE differrence in maturity between someone 18, and someone 25.
Let alone any larger gap.<shrug> I've heard this, but don't believe it to be true, at least not personally.

Now, hear me out. I'd like to point out that two of the finest civilizations in the history of the world were run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles, Ancient Greece and Rome.

So I ask you: Would you live in a country run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles? I'm not saying how these people would run it, but just on principle, knowing they were bi/homosexual and attracted to teenagers, would you support them?

(For those of you wondering, ephebephiles are attracted to teenagers.)

I wouldn't vote them into power unless they displayed political skill, but their sexual orientation doesn't concern me in the least.

Now, hear me out. I'd like to point out that two of the finest civilizations in the history of the world were run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles, Ancient Greece and Rome.

So I ask you: Would you live in a country run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles? I'm not saying how these people would run it, but just on principle, knowing they were bi/homosexual and attracted to teenagers, would you support them?

(For those of you wondering, ephebephiles are attracted to teenagers.)

not only yes, but damd rather then the one i'm living in.
greece and rome had their problems too, of course.
far as i can see, what anyone goes to bed with, where, when or how often ain't got diddly squat to do with how they run a country.

what i would not want to live in a country that is run by are idiological fanatics. any country that is, it takes massochistic heroism just to be honest, and that, when it takes willingness to risk life and limb, just to avoid deceiving yourself and others, by any other name, that to me is what tyranny is.

i'd really like to live in a 'country' that wasn't 'run' at all, except at the local level by people you know personaly and know where they live, if you know what i mean, with broader levels of governance existing only to curb and prevent excessess of local ones and to be able to deal with such concerns as may arrise on a broader level, like keeping tangable infrastructure environmentaly harmonious.

and as for the personal proclivities of its 'leaders'. best case in that context is for no two of them to be remotely alike to each other.

=^^=
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As Kinsey stated most people are a three which is people both preform straight and gay sexual acts.

Now, hear me out. I'd like to point out that two of the finest civilizations in the history of the world were run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles, Ancient Greece and Rome.

So I ask you: Would you live in a country run by bi/homosexual ephebephiles? I'm not saying how these people would run it, but just on principle, knowing they were bi/homosexual and attracted to teenagers, would you support them?

(For those of you wondering, ephebephiles are attracted to teenagers.)


Who gives a fuck, are thier any public restrooms?

*dances around nervously*

Who gives a fuck, are thier any public restrooms?

*dances around nervously*

ironically, Rome was one of the first civilizations to institute public restrooms...

ironically, Rome was one of the first civilizations to institute public restrooms...

Non olet.

*shrug*

*clears throat* HELL NO! Thank you.

*clears throat* HELL NO! Thank you.

theres really nothing wrong with it. we live in a society where it is taboo for someone to marry before the age of 18, whereas the cultures of those times viewed it as perfectly alright.

theres really nothing wrong with it. we live in a society where it is taboo for someone to marry before the age of 18, whereas the cultures of those times viewed it as perfectly alright.


Thats your opinion, not mine. They viewed it as alright because they had a shorter lifespan than we do, they had to marry and have kids sooner.

Ephebephile... what an ugly word.

Thats your opinion, not mine. They viewed it as alright because they had a shorter lifespan than we do, they had to marry and have kids sooner.

so, what exactly is the problem then?

so, what exactly is the problem then?

What do you mean? Problem with what?

What do you mean? Problem with what?

what is the problem of living in that sort of civilization, then?

what is the problem of living in that sort of civilization, then?



I don't agree with their morals or to some lack there of.. Bi I wouldn't care so much...being 45 and wanting to or having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old...Ummm. no. I am a litte to straight edged for them.

theres really nothing wrong with it. we live in a society where it is taboo for someone to marry before the age of 18, whereas the cultures of those times viewed it as perfectly alright.

Um... we live in a society that allows marriage a lot sooner than 18. 16 is the norm (with the parents' consent), and some US states allow 14 year olds to marry.

Um... we live in a society that allows marriage a lot sooner than 18. 16 is the norm (with the parents' consent), and some US states allow 14 year olds to marry.



:confused:


Are 14 year olds really mature enough for that?

I don't agree with their morals or to some lack there of.. Bi I wouldn't care so much...being 45 and wanting to or having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old...Ummm. no. I am a litte to straight edged for them.

there are old people having sexual relationships with young people in america all the time...

and i mean oooollddd people, not just "oh, im 40"

:confused:


Are 14 year olds really mature enough for that?

18 year olds are allowed to vote, and i dont think the majority of them are mature enough for THAT :D

there are old people having sexual relationships with young people in america all the time...

and i mean oooollddd people, not just "oh, im 40"




Under the age of 18? If so that is not legal.

18 year olds are allowed to vote, and i dont think the majority of them are mature enough for THAT :D

I actually agree, I support that being 21 and older.

Under the age of 18? If so that is not legal.

no, i dont mean under 18... i mean, say, 20-ish women with 50-some (or over) year old men.

just look at donald trump!!!

no, i dont mean under 18... i mean, say, 20-ish women with 50-some (or over) year old men.

just look at donald trump!!!



Thats there problem...I personally don't blame 50 plus men wanting 20 ish women..Have you seen some women in their 50's? UGGGGG! Just keep 21 and over so they can drink and I am cool.:D

Under the age of 18? If so that is not legal.

A 20 year old could have sex with a 16 year old, in PA, at least.

Four year gap.

A 20 year old could have sex with a 16 year old, in PA, at least.

Four year gap.

source.

Thats there problem...I personally don't blame 50 plus men wanting 20 ish women..Have you seen some women in their 50's? UGGGGG! Just keep 21 and over so they can drink and I am cool.:D

aha! see what i mean? one look at women over 50 and men will be wishing that either

a) a time machine was created so they could go back in time and be a teen again, or
b) they could get some hot college ass :D

source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Pennsylvania

there is NO age at which anyone becomes magicly mature. granted the longer one lives the more chances one has to; but that's about it. as for the young being gullible, well the thing is HUMANS are gullable, it's only a matter of varying degree.

now i don't see large age differences in sex as being aesthetic from the younger perspective and i also understand the sexual insecurity that comes of getting older and less eroticly aesthetic. it is the last, if feel certain, is at the root of this age prejudice thing in reguard to sex.

at any rate, back to the consiquences for how a nation is run, it is the status quo of age aparthied that is at the more deliterious end of the scale, and not what more open an legal acceptance would be, whatever fanatical prejudices might happen to be promoted by prevailing beliefs.

=^^=
.../\...

:confused:


Are 14 year olds really mature enough for that?

Personally, I wouldn't think so. But I'm not responsible for legislation in New Hampshire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age#Americas

Depends on if they are good leaders or not. Voted Yes.

aha! see what i mean? one look at women over 50 and men will be wishing that either

a) a time machine was created so they could go back in time and be a teen again, or
b) they could get some hot college ass :D



To be honest I really don't look at women that way..as just a piece of ass.

Depends on if they are good leaders or not. Voted Yes.

Same opinion, but I voted "what?" for the hell of it.

Personally, I wouldn't think so. But I'm not responsible for legislation in New Hampshire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age#Americas

Yemen-9 yrs. old.

id just like to point out that pre-teenage engagement goes a little further than just teenage engagement... yeesh!

To be honest I really don't look at women that way..as just a piece of ass.

neither do i. however, i was referring to men over 50...

neither do i. however, i was referring to men over 50...

I know, I was just saying I didn't see women that way. Women have more to offer than sex.. Just saying how I feel....Do I sound like a male feminist?

I don't agree with their morals or to some lack there of.. Bi I wouldn't care so much...being 45 and wanting to or having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old...Ummm. no. I am a litte to straight edged for them.It would be alright with me if they marrying at such a young age were between five years of each other, but I agree a balding man should not have relations with a person just not even done with puberty.

Do I sound like a male feminist?

Would that be something bad?

Would that be something bad?

Depends on how you look at it I guess.

I think I'd rather enjoy living in Spain. Except the racism, but hey, no country is perfect. It gives you something to work towards.

*quickly checks his facts about Spain*

Depends on how you look at it I guess.
How would it be a bad thing to be a male feminist? That would mean that you are a male who believes in the social and political equality of the sexes. It's like being a white person who also isn't racist...I don't really see how it's a bad thing.

*clears throat* HELL NO! Thank you.

Explain.