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would you have your pet dog put down, if you had it for years and loved it , but it attacked a person.

No, that's what vets are for. Among other things.

would you kill your pet dog , that you had for years and loved , if it attacked a person.

Not if the person antagonized, harassed, or attacked my dog.

It all depends on the situation and scenario. To many unanswered questions involved.

Not if the person antagonized, harassed, or attacked my dog.

It all depends on the situation and scenario. To many unanswered questions involved.

Quoted for truth.

Not if the person antagonized, harassed, or attacked my dog.

It all depends on the situation and scenario. To many unanswered questions involved.

Well if the dog you had vicously attacked a person , causing multiple injury.

Well if the dog you had vicously attacked a person , causing multiple injury.

Well, seeing how I am definately a dog lover, having 2 dogs of my own and soon to have a third. I'm a bit biased whenever it involves dogs.

If the dog was not provoked in any way,shape, or form then I'd logically have to say, Yes to put him/her down. In reality, I'd probably wind up in jail if this were to happen with my dogs because I'm very protective over my dogs.

If the dog was provoked, by laws (I think) it doesn't matter, the dog's still going to be euthanized and I would inevitably be serving time in jail for going psycho in the defence of my dogs. So basically it's a lose-lose situation for myself and my dogs if the attack did ever occur.

My dog, Freedom, she's a very good dog with a very good reputation throughout the neighborhood including family and friends. Unfortunately, the law doesn't care with the exception of the K-9s, character witnesses wouldn't hold up in court, not for the dogs anyways.

if i had a dog large enough to do serious harm and if it attacked a person and caused serious harm, it would be put down.

What I really hate are the jackasses who think it's a good idea to keep pitbulls and small children in the same household. It seems you hear mauling stories in the news on a regular basis about that shit.

What I really hate are the jackasses who think it's a good idea to keep pitbulls and small children in the same household. It seems you hear mauling stories in the news on a regular basis about that shit.

I honestly think that the Pitbull should be forced to extinction. It's what some would call an "abomination", as it was selectively bred from various other dogs to be a dedicated fighting breed... Thus the jaw that doesn't unlock when it bites.

I don't think it should be extinct because it was selectively bred, but because it's far too dangerous, and too many stupid people keep them. All you ever see with Pitbulls are fucking white trash rednecks who don't give a damn about other people.

Its not so much that its in the same house hold, its just that parents cant watch their kids and the dog owners cant keep their animal chained or inside. i think its more of a "Not a bad dog but a bad owner" kind of situation

No.

If the dog was not provoked in any way,shape, or form then I'd logically have to say, Yes to put him/her down. In reality, I'd probably wind up in jail if this were to happen with my dogs because I'm very protective over my dogs.

If the dog was provoked, by laws (I think) it doesn't matter, the dog's still going to be euthanized and I would inevitably be serving time in jail for going psycho in the defence of my dogs. So basically it's a lose-lose situation for myself and my dogs if the attack did ever occur.

Thats pretty much what I was going to say. I can't imagine my dog ever attacking if unprovoked - he won't even go for other dogs, he comes running back and sits by us if a dog he doesn't like walks past. I'd do pretty much anything to prevent him being put down.


The only stories I ever hear about dogs attacking are guard dogs that have been allowed near kids. I think the owners should be put down in those cases.

All you ever see with Pitbulls are fucking white trash rednecks who don't give a damn about other people.

Exactly, and the reason people are attracted to the breed is due to macho image bullshit.

Exactly, and the reason people are attracted to the breed is due to macho image bullshit.

Which is because their brains are too under-developed to see just what the fuck is wrong with the whole thing.

My dog, Freedom,

*imagines man in his undies running around shouting freedom in the morning*

What I really hate are the jackasses who think it's a good idea to keep pitbulls and small children in the same household. It seems you hear mauling stories in the news on a regular basis about that shit.

and yet somehow people think rottweilers are vicious animals goes to show some people shouldn’t own dogs

It depends on the severity of the attack. My dog attacked someone and I didn't put him down.

Not if the person antagonized, harassed, or attacked my dog.

It all depends on the situation and scenario. To many unanswered questions involved.

QFT again.

What I really hate are the jackasses who think it's a good idea to keep pitbulls and small children in the same household. It seems you hear mauling stories in the news on a regular basis about that shit.

You obviously don't know the truths about pitbulls. It sounds to me that you believe the myths.

Fact: Pitbull breeds pass the temperment tests at a 95% compared to the average dogs passing at a 77%. The 95% is quite higher than what the German Shepards pass it. For those who don't know what a temperment test is it's a series of tests depicting differnent scenarios and whatnot.

Fact: Pitbull breeds are naturally human freindly and Loyal.

This all goes about how a dog is raised and treated. Any dogs can bite.

Fact: Pitbulls are wrongly/falsely accused of many maulings they did not partake in. The media hypes it up and to them and people in general what sounds better...Pitbull mauls a child or Dog mauls a child...You decide.

Myth: Pitbull breeds have locking jaws.......Fact: It is physically impossible for any mammal to have locking jaws, Yes Pitbulls breeds are extremely strong dogs, afterall they are a working breed. Originally were trained to take down out of control Bulls, then later, irresponsible and abusive owners wound up horrendously training this breed to fight other dogs in a pit hense the name pitbull.

Both the Media and the irresponsible/abusive dog owners have caused the pitbull breeds black eye that results in people's fear of pitbulls.

Pitbulls are my personal favorite of all the different breeds. I find it unfortunate of how the media portrays them and how irresponsible dog owners continue to get that breed to further deminish the rarely known truths regarding pitbulls. I own 2, the older one is about 7 yrs old now and she is just a complete spoiled rotten but very well behaved dog. Freedom listens better than most kids roaming the streets. Funny thing is is last night when I was over at my neighbors house for New Years Eve we got on this subject and I asked her how many times she has to say no to her 13 yr old son. answer was countless times then Freedom did something and I said, "NO" she stopped immediately and came over to me, I told my neighbor, "see. I just need to say it once. :D

and yet somehow people think rottweilers are vicious animals goes to show some people shouldn’t own dogs

I'm totally fine with Rottweilers... When they're not brought up to be savages, like many white trash rednecks in this area do.

Compared to Pitbulls, Rottweilers are completely harmless. At least you can get your limbs out of their mouths when they lock on...

I honestly think that the Pitbull should be forced to extinction. It's what some would call an "abomination", as it was selectively bred from various other dogs to be a dedicated fighting breed... Thus the jaw that doesn't unlock when it bites.

I don't think it should be extinct because it was selectively bred, but because it's far too dangerous, and too many stupid people keep them. All you ever see with Pitbulls are fucking white trash rednecks who don't give a damn about other people.

I say complete and total bullshit. You beleive in myths and myths alone well media hype too. Your entire post is bullshit, where's the sources of facts. I don't want to see no media news clippings either since they're very unfair and biased towards the pitbulls by their frequent false claims of pitbulls. you definately need to do your research.

Fact: Pitbull breeds pass the temperment tests at a 95% compared to the average dogs passing at a 77%.

Fact: allot of pit bulls are purchased off more than shifty folk leading to the pit bulls having allot of mental issues this is particular to pit bulls since it’s a common breed for people who probably wouldn’t bother checking the dogs breeder and history (council folk looking for a scary dog)

Though yeah pit bulls tend to be happy friendly things (though in experience with a dog called bizzle they tend to be harder to train)

Its not so much that its in the same house hold, its just that parents cant watch their kids and the dog owners cant keep their animal chained or inside. i think its more of a "Not a bad dog but a bad owner" kind of situation

Absolutely.

Not if the person antagonized, harassed, or attacked my dog.

It all depends on the situation and scenario. To many unanswered questions involved.

Also agreed ... It would have to be shown that my dog was an actual menace and a reasonable threat to others... the situation would be key

My dog, Freedom
*snigger*

Compared to Pitbulls, Rottweilers are completely harmless. At least you can get your limbs out of their mouths when they lock on...

Rottweilers = natures clowns/LG’s

In my experience you don’t want them guarding your house though since they tend to not care about strangers at all (most likely over the years they have been bred more to be gentle considering there size)

You obviously don't know the truths about pitbulls. It sounds to me that you believe the myths.

Fact: Pitbull breeds pass the temperment tests at a 95% compared to the average dogs passing at a 77%. The 95% is quite higher than what the German Shepards pass it. For those who don't know what a temperment test is it's a series of tests depicting differnent scenarios and whatnot.

Fact: Pitbull breeds are naturally human freindly and Loyal.

This all goes about how a dog is raised and treated. Any dogs can bite.

Fact: Pitbulls are wrongly/falsely accused of many maulings they did not partake in. The media hypes it up and to them and people in general what sounds better...Pitbull mauls a child or Dog mauls a child...You decide.

Myth: Pitbull breeds have locking jaws.......Fact: It is physically impossible for any mammal to have locking jaws, Yes Pitbulls breeds are extremely strong dogs, afterall they are a working breed. Originally were trained to take down out of control Bulls, then later, irresponsible and abusive owners wound up horrendously training this breed to fight other dogs in a pit hense the name pitbull.

Both the Media and the irresponsible/abusive dog owners have caused the pitbull breeds black eye that results in people's fear of pitbulls.

Pitbulls are my personal favorite of all the different breeds. I find it unfortunate of how the media portrays them and how irresponsible dog owners continue to get that breed to further deminish the rarely known truths regarding pitbulls. I own 2, the older one is about 7 yrs old now and she is just a complete spoiled rotten but very well behaved dog. Freedom listens better than most kids roaming the streets. Funny thing is is last night when I was over at my neighbors house for New Years Eve we got on this subject and I asked her how many times she has to say no to her 13 yr old son. answer was countless times then Freedom did something and I said, "NO" she stopped immediately and came over to me, I told my neighbor, "see. I just need to say it once. :D

Well said. Of course, a pack of five chihuahua's attacked a policeman, and a laborador bit a womans face off... should these breeds be driven to extinction? It seems to me that people like to sublimate their urges of racial profiling by claiming that a certain breed of dog is more dangerous than another. If a bunch of drug dealers had huskys and trained them to attack people would we still be pointing the finger at pit bulls? The idea that a certain dog will attack just because of the color of its skin... sorry, breed i mean... is just plain ridiculous.

*snigger*

There's a good reason for her name being Freedom. She was abandoned in a house for about a week with a small calico kitten (any longer I'm sure she probably would have had cat) I knew the house was empty for atleast a week and one day I was playing basketball with some neighborhood kids and the ball rolled down the driveway and as I went to get the ball I heard barking so I went to the front window and discovered the dog, a pitbull, in the house. Fortunately, the window was unlocked or I would have broken in and pulled the dog out and noticed the kitten too. This happened about 2 weeks after 9/11. So the name, Freedom, was first to come to mind since I did happen to Free her and it happened pretty close to 9/11 my sister named the kitten Liberty.

Freedom, after I rescued her was all skin and bones. She would always bow her head, tail inbetween the legs and would shake if you'd go to pet her on the head. It took her more than a year to stop that. and to this day she still bows the head a little but other than that she's a completely happy dog except for when I go to work. I now got her a companion to make her more active and she is an extremely well behaved dog. Awesome dog and she is completely under voice control, no need for a leash.

If my dog attacked someone, they would have first attacket me or the dog, and thus would deserve it.

I'd put it down. It's the responsible thing to do. If a dog is going to attack people without provocation, it needs to be put down before it kills someone. Dogs aren't people, and so they don't have the same right to life that a person does. If they are a threat, they must go.

It depends on the severity of the attack. My dog attacked someone and I didn't put him down.
Did the dog attack provoked or unprovoked?

If he just lost it an attacked a defenseless child, then of course. Now, as said before, if he was being antagonized then it's not real likely I'd feel responsible for the asshole who brought it on himself.

But if I had to do it myself, it'd involve a night of poodles, beer, and then I'd strap him into a rented sports car full of Nitro and drive it off a cliff for him. Let the poor guy go out with a bang.

i'm bent on this issue. If I had a dog for years, and it attacked i would want to put it down, but what if it was out of self defense?

of course if my dog attacked the killer who had just come into the house to rape and murder me, id be quite oppposed to having it put down.

A five year old girl was mauled to death in the UK by a pit bull terrier in the early hours of this morning, it also badly mauled her grandmother (who was its owner). The police destroyed the dog at the family home as it was too dangerous to even move it. A dog who attacks unprovoked needs to be destroyed.

Too many variables for an exact black/white answer.

If the dog was provoked, then maybe, maybe not.

If the dog was not provoked, yes.

If the dog attacked a child, esp a child who was not mistreating the dog, yeah. And I did. I took it out myself, put the 9mm to it's head, and pulled the trigger. Myself. My dog. I then went, got the shovel and buried it underneath a lovely oak tree out in the field it played in.

It was an Aussie Shepherd/Heeler mix that we got from the pound. It went berserk on one of the neighbor kids for the kids ice cream. It became toast. If it would attack a little kid (and not just a little bit... I got bit trying to get him off her, too) then it was an unsafe dog to let loose with my kids or with my other animals (ie unsuitable for shepherding, or even as a pet). Most humane thing I could do was put it down. Also, I've trained quite a few dogs in my time, got one now that is finally coming around, little terrier mix that was a rescue dog... she's very sweet now that the wild is going away...

Back to the pit bull terriers, they are a breed that needs responsible ownership, (like any other dog, truth tell) . Too many are treated poorly by the owners, that is where the problem is. Same with any other breed.

Years ago, it used to be Dobermans were the big bad evil dog, then it became Rot's , now it's Pits... Jeez.

The sadder one that I had to put down was Tasha, she was a Border Collie/Heeler mix, got across the road one morning, I called her in, and she ran in front of a car... totally crushed her chest and back... she was still alive, I cried as I carried her out back and put her down... heck, I'm misting up now just thinking about it ten years later... she looked up at me, as if to say, "I was coming, honest..."

"Joys" of country living...


I think it was Heinlein who wrote, "When the need arises - and it does - you must be able to shoot your own dog. Don't farm it out - that doesn't make it nicer, it makes it worse."

Exactly, and the reason people are attracted to the breed is due to macho image bullshit.

This is all I have to say on the matter: http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/pete.php

It depends on who my dog attacked, and why my dog attacked them.

If the person who was attacked was irritating the dog, then clearly they deserved it, and I would do nothing but laugh at them.

It is upsetting to see that so many people would think nothing of having their dog put down in this sort of situation. Alot of accounts of dogs attacking people would have been caused by the way the owners raised it. It is also upsetting to see the racist attitude people have towards pitbulls - and thats exactly what it is - racism. To say people shouldn't have small children and pitbulls in the same household is rediculous. Why not say, it is rediculous to have dangerous dogs in the same household as small children? Such as the incident where a pomeranian (10 pound dog for those not in the know) was left with a baby and killed it. As a baby my parents had two dogs, a pitbull terrier and border collie. The pitbull was completely paitient with me and didn't mind having a baby crawling around it at all, where as the border collie had no tolerance for me. In ontario (where I am) pitbulls are banned and I just spent a hell of a time and money on getting a pitbull out of the pound and sent to B.C. where she will be adopted out. Had I not spent the money to have her sent to B.C. she would have been put down. She is only a puppy and very friendly loving dog with no signs of being aggressive. They do not adopt out pitbulls here in ontario if they are taken in by animal services, they just get putdown. This dog in question was lucky - but think of how many other innocent dogs, puppies even - babies - who have already been killed for nothing. So many loving dogs, who have commited no crime killed because they are guilty by association. I hope some of you can open your minds and realize the injustice these dogs must endure......

I don't have a dog, but if a dog attacks me I'll bash it's skull in.

I honestly think that the Pitbull should be forced to extinction. It's what some would call an "abomination", as it was selectively bred from various other dogs to be a dedicated fighting breed... Thus the jaw that doesn't unlock when it bites.

I don't think it should be extinct because it was selectively bred, but because it's far too dangerous, and too many stupid people keep them. All you ever see with Pitbulls are fucking white trash rednecks who don't give a damn about other people.

So far my experience with pitbulls makes me less afraid of them then poodles.

Pitbulls (AmStafs, Staffordshires and American PB Terriers) while more difficult to train then many other breeds, if trained well by a responsible owner are no more dangerous then any other similar sized dog.

would you have your pet dog put down, if you had it for years and loved it , but it attacked a person.

Depends on the situation. If the dog has been good for years, it is highly unlikely to attack a person unprovoked, so I would be highly unlikely to put an animal down for one attack, as it would most likely be the person's own fault. If, on the other hand, the dog were routinely violent and dangerous, I would either look for the type of facility that attempts to rehabilitate such animals, or I would have to put the animal down.

I honestly think that the Pitbull should be forced to extinction. It's what some would call an "abomination", as it was selectively bred from various other dogs to be a dedicated fighting breed... Thus the jaw that doesn't unlock when it bites.

So, because pitbulls have a strong jaw, they should be done away with? Any large, strong breed can do a great deal of damage. My bloodhound mix probably could seriously injure someone. It is the training and socialization of these animals that matters. I have yet to meet a vicious animal that was properly taken care of and trained.

I don't think it should be extinct because it was selectively bred, but because it's far too dangerous, and too many stupid people keep them. All you ever see with Pitbulls are fucking white trash rednecks who don't give a damn about other people.

The pitbull is no more dangerous than the rottweiler or doberman, or any other large breed with strong jaws. A mastiff could probably kill someone even easier than a pit, should we do away with them?

Meanwhile, your statement that the only owners of pitbulls are "white trash rednecks who don't give a damn about other people," is patently incorrect. Yes, there are people who get pitbulls out of a macho, "My dog is mean," mentality, and those are exactly the types that shouldn't have dogs. Their dogs are the ones you hear about attacking and mauling (sometimes killing) human beings. The vast majority of pit owners, on the other hand, are people who care about other human beings and care about their dogs.

would you have your pet dog put down, if you had it for years and loved it , but it attacked a person.

It depends on how and why it attacked .. and what person. I know.. people are above animal.. I agree with that to a certain extent, but there are some people who are beneathe(sp*). It would depend on everything surrounding the incident. No matter how much I love my animal.. if it comes from out of the blue and attacks a human (like my brothers Chow did he and his wife taking chunks form their arms and backing me against a corner every time I came to visit -- the dog was sick.. come to find out he was inbred..If I were them.. I would've shot his ass the first time he took a hunk of meat out of mine, or my spouses arm .. and that would be it -- the dog wasn't fit).. much less killing the human .. the animal would die form my hand, and I would know I did the right thing. But a regular ole dog or whatever is not going to attack and harm..kill another human being unless it is trained to, provoked or sick. My favorite dogs are retrievers .. labs.

Exactly, and the reason people are attracted to the breed is due to macho image bullshit.

The little Rascals were rednecks? :eek:

The pit bull is the bogeyman dog of the decade. It will past just as did the Doberman, German Sheppard and rotweiller.

I would only put my dog down if-
A- the attack was unprovoked
and
B- there was no other way to prevent it from happening again.

A lot of "vicious dog" laws will allow the dog to continue being kept if the dog is well secured. Things like a good fence, keeping them leashed and keeping them muzzled allow them to be safely kept.

would you have your pet dog put down, if you had it for years and loved it , but it attacked a person.

You've had a dog for years without it having attacked anyone. Suddenly it attacks someone. I'd find out what the person did to provoke a hitherto benign dog to attack. The dog isn't always (or even mostly) at fault.

This happened about 2 weeks after 9/11. So the name, Freedom, was first to come to mind since I did happen to Free her and it happened pretty close to 9/11 my sister named the kitten Liberty.
Naming your dog 'freedom' cause you found her just after 9/11, huh?
Bet that was one in the eye for those damn pesky islamofacistterroristbabykillingcameljockeyingragheads?
"Hey Ahmed! I thought 9/11 was going to hurt the Great Satan, but look! Someone's called their dog 'Freedom.' We can never win against that sort of resolve!"

Naming your dog 'freedom' cause you found her just after 9/11, huh?
Bet that was one in the eye for those damn pesky islamofacistterroristbabykillingcameljockeyingragheads?
"Hey Ahmed! I thought 9/11 was going to hurt the Great Satan, but look! Someone's called their dog 'Freedom.' We can never win against that sort of resolve!"

Well to be fair the rest of the story in which he freed it from a house may have had a bit to do with it...

Well to be fair the rest of the story in which he freed it from a house may have had a bit to do with it...
True, but why let a few facts spoil a good ribbing?

True, but why let a few facts spoil a good ribbing?

Lol dont know :)