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anime mecha vs. American mecha

Dracellia
01-01-2007, 06:44
What would you choose;anime mecha or american mecha. i choose anime mecha of course
CthulhuFhtagn
01-01-2007, 06:46
Neither. Mechagodzilla rules all.
Dracellia
01-01-2007, 06:48
Neither. Mechagodzilla rules all.

technally mechagodzilla would be considered japanese, and anime is japanese, so they are kind of similiar
Andaluciae
01-01-2007, 06:49
I'll stick with the old standby, a massive nuclear deterrent.

That'll put any mech in its place.
Dosuun
01-01-2007, 06:49
Good God! Not another thread with mecha in it! ALL FUCKING MECHA FUCKING SUCKS! It does.
Dracellia
01-01-2007, 06:50
this is kind of supposed to be about mecha, thats not about mecha
CthulhuFhtagn
01-01-2007, 06:50
technally mechagodzilla would be considered japanese, and anime is japanese, so they are kind of similiar

Anime is cartoons. Gojira films are live-action. Pretty fucking big difference.
CthulhuFhtagn
01-01-2007, 06:50
I'll stick with the old standby, a massive nuclear deterrent.

That'll put any mech in its place.

Mechagodzilla can take a nuke. So nyah.
Dracellia
01-01-2007, 06:51
Good God! Not another thread with mecha in it! ALL FUCKING MECHA FUCKING SUCKS! It does.

i am pretty much the only person posting about anime and mecha, so i would be the one to get mad at
CthulhuFhtagn
01-01-2007, 06:52
i am pretty much the only person posting about anime and mecha, so i would be the one to get mad at

And he's getting mad at you. Funny how it works.
Andaluciae
01-01-2007, 06:54
Mechagodzilla can take a nuke. So nyah.

Which is why I go with upper-atmosphere bursts, to pummel him with EMP. I'd imagine a couple hundred of those would make his circuits fry, and if nothing else, I might be able to wake up Real Badass Godzilla and have him whoop mechagodzillas ass!
CthulhuFhtagn
01-01-2007, 06:55
Which is why I go with upper-atmosphere bursts, to pummel him with EMP. I'd imagine a couple hundred of those would make his circuits fry, and if nothing else, I might be able to wake up Real Badass Godzilla and have him whoop mechagodzillas ass!

Mechagodzilla killed Godzilla.
Dracellia
01-01-2007, 06:55
And he's getting mad at you. Funny how it works.

i kind of noticed that, i just guess he hates mecha or something
Andaluciae
01-01-2007, 06:56
Mechagodzilla killed Godzilla.

Aye, but I didn't say normal Godzilla, I said "Real Badass Godzilla", who is a whole 'nuther story :D
CthulhuFhtagn
01-01-2007, 06:58
Aye, but I didn't say normal Godzilla, I said "Real Badass Godzilla", who is a whole 'nuther story :D

Yeah, Real Badass Godzilla annihlated Mechagodzilla.
Dosuun
01-01-2007, 06:59
i kind of noticed that, i just guess he hates mecha or something
I hate stupidity and mecha is stupid. Technically, strategically, grammatically.
The Lone Alliance
01-01-2007, 07:07
Mammoth MKII and the 20 Story Tall Core Defender from Tiberian Sun firstorm. American Mecha.
Dosuun
01-01-2007, 07:11
Mammoth MKII and the 20 Story Tall Core Defender from Tiberian Sun firstorm. American Mecha.
The bigger the target the easier it falls when I shoot it with a mini-nuke. They can be made small enough to fit in a footlocker and still be strong enough to blow up a city block.
Delator
01-01-2007, 07:15
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/TFMI.gif

Heinlein's Mobile Infantry, FTW!
Dosuun
01-01-2007, 07:21
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/TFMI.gif

Heinlein's Mobile Infantry, FTW!
There's a world of difference bewteen powered armor and a 5-story sword weilding anime mech that serves no other purpose than to look cool.

And that picture is from the anime. While it was the most accurate to the novel it still took quite a few liberties.
Nevered
01-01-2007, 07:34
"Goliath on line"


man, those things rocked.

get half a dozen goliath, a dozen firebats and throw in a science vessel for good measure (especially against protoss), and you can kill anything.
Dosuun
01-01-2007, 07:40
"Goliath on line"


man, those things rocked.

get half a dozen goliath, a dozen firebats and throw in a science vessel for good measure (especially against protoss), and you can kill anything.
I personally hated the goliath. The BC fleet was an oldy but goodie. Expensive but it could sweep through a base with ease. What was even better was 2 full fleets of Carriers. You couldn't have many other units but with 2 fleets of Carriers why would you need them?
Delator
01-01-2007, 07:44
"Goliath on line"


man, those things rocked.

get half a dozen goliath, a dozen firebats and throw in a science vessel for good measure (especially against protoss), and you can kill anything.

Goliath AI was the worst in the game. If you had a group of more than six it was a wonder if all of them got to where you sent them. Odds were pretty good at least two would wander off in another direction or get stuck somewhere.

And they were good anti-air, but sub-par against ground units, especially faster ones like Zealots and Zerglings.

I personally hated the goliath. The BC fleet was an oldy but goodie. Expensive but it could sweep through a base with ease. What was even better was 2 full fleets of Carriers. You couldn't have many other units but with 2 fleets of Carriers why would you need them?

If you're heavy on BCs or Carriers, you'll lose a resource war...my Scourge and Defilers will see to it. :D
The Aeson
01-01-2007, 07:49
Mechagodzilla can take a nuke. So nyah.

However, normal Godzilla can turn himself magnetic at will!
The Potato Factory
01-01-2007, 08:02
Mecha suck on principle. I much prefer walkers.
Nevered
01-01-2007, 08:04
I personally hated the goliath. The BC fleet was an oldy but goodie. Expensive but it could sweep through a base with ease. What was even better was 2 full fleets of Carriers. You couldn't have many other units but with 2 fleets of Carriers why would you need them?

because four fleets of scourge could take them out in five seconds at a quarter the cost.
Nevered
01-01-2007, 08:06
Goliath AI was the worst in the game. If you had a group of more than six it was a wonder if all of them got to where you sent them. Odds were pretty good at least two would wander off in another direction or get stuck somewhere.

And they were good anti-air, but sub-par against ground units, especially faster ones like Zealots and Zerglings.

that's what the firebats are for.

firebats rip through zerglings and zealots (after you EMP their shields away) the goliaths are mainly for AA, with the machine guns to take a few hp off while the enemy is out of range of the firebats.
Groznyj
01-01-2007, 08:06
Heheh, nice to see you made a thread for this.

Ok, for starters when I talk about American mechs I'm ussually reffering to these kinds of mechs:

http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf2142/images/screenshots/BF2142pcSCRN_EU_Mech_Closeup.jpg
http://h610332.serverkompetenz.net/bfn/forum/galerie/bilder/bild-2963.jpg
http://www.battlefield-2142.org/ingame-screenshots/g_bf2142_mech_attack.jpg
http://www.masstactical.com/screenshots/BF2142Mech_Screenshot.bmp

I'm not including command and conquer mechs b/c they aren't as practical and as for anyothers I don't really know. Anyways that out of the way...

There is no way that an anime type mech could defeat an 'american' type mech if they were both built. Let's take a gundam and a L-5 Reiseg (1st/3rd pics) for example. The American mech is a little shorter than a 2 story building. The gundam is over twice that height. All the American mech needs to do is knock out the gundam's legs and it's won the fight. Either that or fit the mech with a cannon and aim for the gundam's torso/head and knock it over. Simple as that. Anime mechs have no use in NS warfare (unless your going FT in which case anything goes almost).
Nevered
01-01-2007, 08:08
Heheh, nice to see you made a thread for this.

Ok, for starters when I talk about American mechs I'm ussually reffering to these kinds of mechs:

http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefiel...ch_Closeup.jpg
http://h610332.serverkompetenz.net/b.../bild-2963.jpg
http://www.battlefield-2142.org/inga...ech_attack.jpg
http://www.masstactical.com/screensh...Screenshot.bmp

I'm not including command and conquer mechs b/c they aren't as practical and as for anyothers I don't really know. Anyways that out of the way...

There is no way that an anime type mech could defeat an 'american' type mech if they were both built. Let's take a gundam and a L-5 Reiseg (1st/3rd pics) for example. The American mech is a little shorter than a 2 story building. The gundam is over twice that height. All the American mech needs to do is knock out the gundam's legs and it's won the fight. Either that or fit the mech with a cannon and aim for the gundam's torso/head and knock it over. Simple as that. Anime mechs have no use in NS warfare (unless your going FT in which case anything goes almost).

I must say that as far as posting broken links goes, you win the grand prize.

I can't get a singe one of those pages to load
The Metal Horde
01-01-2007, 08:14
I must say that as far as posting broken links goes, you win the grand prize.

I can't get a singe one of those pages to load

They all loaded for me.

On the topic of Mecha, I don't really know who would win in a fight. Anime ones are quite large, but American ones can be too. They are both quite powerful, too. I'm on the fence for this one.
Delator
01-01-2007, 08:18
that's what the firebats are for.

firebats rip through zerglings and zealots (after you EMP their shields away) the goliaths are mainly for AA, with the machine guns to take a few hp off while the enemy is out of range of the firebats.

Anyone sending JUST Zerglings or JUST Zealots at you deserves to lose.

If they're sending Hyrdalisks or Dragoons/Scouts like they ought to be, those Firebats won't last long enough to make the difference.

Killing Science Vessels with Corsairs or Mutalisks is also fun. :)
MrMopar
01-01-2007, 09:27
Good God! Not another thread with mecha in it! ALL FUCKING MECHA FUCKING SUCKS! It does.
Agree.
JuNii
01-01-2007, 09:53
First of all, if we are only sticking with Cartoon/anime mecha...

let's look at the line up.

American.
Megas XLR
BattleTech (yes, there was a series on this.)
Exo Squad
Big O (yes, it was made by a Japanese Company, but it was made specifically for an American Audience.)
Galaxy Rangers
Mighty Orbots

and if we include Powersuits...
Leathernecks (Starship Troopers)


(I know there were several others, but can't remember them all.)


Japanese
Too many to count, including...
All Gundam series
Gunbuster
Dangaioh
Dancougar
Danguard Ace
Combatra V
Dairugger XV (Voltron in the US)
Go Lions (Voltrom in the US)
RainbowMan
God Mars
Getta Robo
Patlabor
and the list goes on...

and if you include Powersuits
GitS
Bubblegum Crisis
AD Police
Gasaraki
Project A-ko (B-ko's suit is a power suit... and wotta powersuit (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/bko.htm))
Sol Bianca (the unit in the back is a powersuit (http://www.inetres.com/gp/anime/sb/sb04.jpg))
Gundress
Appleseed
etc...

So, for number and power, I give powersuit and mecha design to the Japanese.

now super powered people, (Superheros) is totally American. ;)

Anime is cartoons. Gojira films are live-action. Pretty fucking big difference.and if you remember, it took the Americans to animate (http://www.scifijapan.com/GodzillaHB/Godzilla_HB1.jpg) the Big G. too bad they didn't animate Mecha Godzilla.

Heheh, nice to see you made a thread for this.

Ok, for starters when I talk about American mechs I'm ussually reffering to these kinds of mechs:

http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf2142/images/screenshots/BF2142pcSCRN_EU_Mech_Closeup.jpg
http://h610332.serverkompetenz.net/bfn/forum/galerie/bilder/bild-2963.jpg
http://www.battlefield-2142.org/ingame-screenshots/g_bf2142_mech_attack.jpg
http://www.masstactical.com/screenshots/BF2142Mech_Screenshot.bmp

I'm not including command and conquer mechs b/c they aren't as practical and as for anyothers I don't really know. Anyways that out of the way...

There is no way that an anime type mech could defeat an 'american' type mech if they were both built. Let's take a gundam and a L-5 Reiseg (1st/3rd pics) for example. The American mech is a little shorter than a 2 story building. The gundam is over twice that height. All the American mech needs to do is knock out the gundam's legs and it's won the fight. Either that or fit the mech with a cannon and aim for the gundam's torso/head and knock it over. Simple as that. Anime mechs have no use in NS warfare (unless your going FT in which case anything goes almost).
now if you are opening it up to non anime mecha... Books, live action movies, computer games, Comics...

then you are not talking Anime Mecha, but mecha in general. and for that you need someone who is better verse with Japanese electronic games and their mecha

oh and for your scenario... it depends on the Gundam... most have shoulder mounted weapons that can traverse 90 degrees as well as detactable "Core Fighters" that make shooting the legs ineffective on some of em. bring in the God Robots... and American Mecha will fail miserably. and since we are talking anime... the rules of Physics really won't affect mecha on both sides as they should in RL. ;)
The Lone Alliance
01-01-2007, 10:07
The bigger the target the easier it falls when I shoot it with a mini-nuke. They can be made small enough to fit in a footlocker and still be strong enough to blow up a city block.

A city block wouldn't stop a Core Defender. In the game it's the closest you can get to a 'main boss' in a CNC game.

6 Ion Cannon Strikes 20 Bombing raids by the most powerful bombs, Missile strikes, machinegun lasers etc, over 60 various tanks and artillery, and it still proceeded to wipe out 80% of the entire map before being destroyed.
Pic (http://www.geocities.com/sasa_25/images/firestorm/nod-coredef2.jpg)
Dracellia
01-01-2007, 18:38
An anime mecha would be much faster than an american mech because the american mechs are slow. Not all anime mecha is two stories high. A mobile suit like the ZGMF-X56S Impulse Gundam and the ZGMF-2000 GOUF Ignited are two mobile suits that are from gundam seed destiny. The impulse has wizard packs that allow it to fight long range to short range. it stands 17.76 meters tall. which isn't a very large mecha. The impluse and GOUF ignited both would be able to get a thrust capibilities from the boosters on back. An american mecha couldn't stand a chance against these two mechs

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/index.htm
Ifreann
01-01-2007, 18:48
The Zap Brannigan Maneuvre will defeat al your mecha nonsense.
Pyotr
01-01-2007, 18:51
a 50-foot-tall, unstable, highly flammable, easily crippled nuclear reactor?

No thanks, I would prefer a tank.
MrMopar
02-01-2007, 12:56
a 50-foot-tall, unstable, highly flammable, easily crippled nuclear reactor?

No thanks, I would prefer a tank.
Secondedd.