NationStates Jolt Archive

True or false?

obviously false. just take a look at whats happening in iraq now.

True or false?

You mean like, since yesterday or since we caught him?

You mean like, since yesterday or since we caught him?

How about since August 2nd 1990?

Depends who you ask I guess, same same really. He's gone but there's still all his nutcase buddied around.

I say I'm already bored of Saddam threads.

How about since August 2nd 1990?

Oh. False.

Put me down for false on the other two dates, as well.

It's no better.

I don't like pop quizes.. :(

I don't like pop quizes.. :(

it's an opinion question.

I don't like pop quizes.. :(

Maybe you'd like them more if your spelling was better? :D

After the Gulf War he was barely dangerous anymore.

The deal is that Sadam was trying to bring stability to the region, and also get a hold of too much petroil for US sake.

Have you even readed about Sadam´s history? He was not the bad madman everyone thinks he was. He got CIA training and for many years Iraq was the US allie.

True or false?

Debatable.

False, IMHO.

He was about as dangerous as the largest icicle hanging from my house.

...

Which is actually quite dangerous. That thing is freaking huge: half again the size of me. If it fell on me I'd be ded. So I guess it's a bad example.

Have you even readed about Sadam´s history? He was not the bad madman everyone thinks he was. He got CIA training and for many years Iraq was the US allie.
That doesn't make him less bad, it just makes him a tool of the US, and the US has trained and hired and indeed protected in the UN, a great deal of complete wankers over the years.

A few examples which may mildly shock you, perhaps.

- Osama bin Laden
- Idi Amin (for a bit, due to there otherwise being a communist revolution)
- Pol Pot (grrrr!)
- Most of the warlords in Somalia
- Pinochet
- Noriega, until they got bored of him.

it's an opinion question.
Well I can't answer the question.

I mean, if I say true, then that means I thought the world was bad whilst he was alive, and really, what does one person's life have to do with the world's doings?

And if I say false, that means I think that.. oh fuck it.

I say false.
Maybe you'd like them more if your spelling was better? :D

Never!

True or false?

False.

He will now be rightly viewed as a martyr by his remaining followers, giving them the edge they lacked when he was held in captivity.

The deal is that Sadam was trying to bring stability to the region, and also get a hold of too much petroil for US sake.

Have you even readed about Sadam´s history? He was not the bad madman everyone thinks he was. He got CIA training and for many years Iraq was the US allie.

It is refreshing that at least somebody sees the truth.

Debatable.
And that's what we're doing. :p

False. He's not been a threat to anyone at the very least since he was captured, and possibly all the way back to the start of the 90s. There's plenty of other nutjobs, both in Iraq and in the rest of the world, who make the world unsafe.

False

too early to tell.

but i doubt that his execution is going to make it worse.

Shouldn't this be a poll?

I say false btw. Although Saddam was a bad person that had blood on his hands when he died, Iraq is now more unstable than ever and its people are a lot less safe.

False. It's been a while since Saddam posed a threat to anyone.

Easily false, IMO.

:eek:

No poll? I'm stunned! Tsk.

Oh, and false.

False as wooden teeth.

- Idi Amin (for a bit, due to there otherwise being a communist revolution)

Wrong. Amin received his support from the U.S.S.R., East Germany, Libya, and Saudi Arabia.

- Pol Pot (grrrr!)

That was after he fell from power, and we didn't just support him, we supported everyone fighting against the Vietnamese occupation. Not that it excuses it, but still.

False. Disarmed, dethroned, detained and humiliated, he was no threat to anyone. To kill him was missing a chance to show some humanity and civilization in this sh*tstorm.

I say I'm already bored of Saddam threads.

I agree. Saddam was such an attention whore in life, and now he is in death. He should really be warned by the moderators.

Edit: Nevermind, they permabanned him. :p

False, and nobody is actually using this, not when outside the green zone, its wild wild west. Even American soldiers are being kidnapped like it was nothing. The first jobs kids in Iraq are getting are to be guards for their communities with ak47s or spies for the insurgents.

I don't think that the execution changed anything at all.

True and false. Sure it's safer to the Kurds and Shi'ia that they won't be massacred by him but false since Iraq right now is a "shit storm" compared to when he was there. However, I doubt the Iraqis want Saddam back.

True or false?

Unknowable. If he'd died in a brawl at the age of twenty-two, the world might have been a safer place ... though even that is unknowable. Iran/Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait were world events, and things might be quite different (possibly worse) without them.

You want safe? Then you want to live in a highly organized and inflexible society, ruled by grey apparatchiks without individual power. A world where a Saddam and a Gandhi are interchangable. Bleh.

I doubt the Iraqis want Saddam back.

Well, not now anyway. Attracts the flies, don't you know.

False. He's been made into a damned martyr.

How about since August 2nd 1990?


Flase for now...but it has a brighter future.

False. He's been made into a damned martyr.


mar·tyr /ˈmɑrtər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mahr-ter] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a person who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his or her religion. ~ He didn't do that, He was secular anyway.


2. a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice. ~ Of what? Murder? Oppression? Genocide? Hate?


3. a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: a martyr to severe headaches. ~ He died almost immediately

4. a person who seeks sympathy or attention by feigning or exaggerating pain, deprivation, etc. ~ He did that....sympathy whore

–verb (used with object) 5. to make a martyr of, esp. by putting to death.
6. to torment or torture. ~ Then everybody who dies is a martyr and the word means nothing.


Saddam is dead and deserved it!

Saddam is dead and deserved it!

Life is not a video game, people are not sprites, and no-one deserves to die.

in many ways, the muslim world is now just more dangerous. this trial and execution just gives the sunnis more cause to fight kurds and shi'as and peace is now just that further away from being achieved.
it sounds horrible, i know, but to keep the kurds, shi'as, and sunnis not fighting, a dictator was needed to keep things in order. the bush administration certainly is not helping with anything.

As I've said before Saddam isn't actually dead. Instead the Americans and Iraqis have done the world a huge favour and executed Mel Gibson instead

Mel
http://www.mdcbowen.org/cobb/archives/14cnd-saddam.7.274.jpg

Saddam
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/Melinapocalypto.jpg/800px-Melinapocalypto.jpg

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False.

After the Gulf War he was barely dangerous anymore.

The deal is that Sadam was trying to bring stability to the region, and also get a hold of too much petroil for US sake.

Have you even readed about Sadam´s history? He was not the bad madman everyone thinks he was. He got CIA training and for many years Iraq was the US allie.

Wait, CIA training and being the US's ally means he was a good guy?

Wait, CIA training and being the US's ally means he was a good guy?No, it meant he was useful to the USA in supressing the spread of the newly Iranian republic in the 80s. He was spared in the gulf war because its rightly feared that Iraq would descend into a mess if he was removed and that there was no backing among other arab leaders for his removal. The most notable of these arab countries was Saudi Arabia, a major US ally in the region and by far and away the largest oil producer in the world.

After Osama Bin Laden wasn't found in Afghanistan, Iraq was the next logical step in the war on terror. A previous enemy of the USA, and very easy to pick on. It had also been noted that the Iraqi army wasn't very fond of fighting for Saddam. Infact Iraqi forces, whilst intially progressing fast the Iran-Iraq war (due to american intelligence on Iranian positions ), could not hold these positions and would surrender or fall back. That is until Iran actually started threatening Iraqi sovereignty and began to encroach on Iraqi territory.

The Americans were perfectly happy to let Saddam swing from the gallows after the first trial so that he would not have to face trial for what happened in Halabja, or war crimes in the Iran-Iraq war. This would have exposed many western nations as having supplied Saddam with Anthrax, E. Coli, Mustard gas and VX gas amongst other chemical and biological weapons. This, understandably, the US did not want to be brought to the world's attention right at this moment in time when they are still looking for an exit strategy and attempting to maintain legitimacy of the invasion.

So no, Saddam wasn't a good guy, but neither are those who used him to further their own agendas.

His death makes no difference. The same problems face Iraq and the world.

mar·tyr /?m?rt?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mahr-ter] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a person who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his or her religion. ~ He didn't do that, He was secular anyway.


2. a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice. ~ Of what? Murder? Oppression? Genocide? Hate?


3. a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: a martyr to severe headaches. ~ He died almost immediately

4. a person who seeks sympathy or attention by feigning or exaggerating pain, deprivation, etc. ~ He did that....sympathy whore

–verb (used with object) 5. to make a martyr of, esp. by putting to death.
6. to torment or torture. ~ Then everybody who dies is a martyr and the word means nothing.


Saddam is dead and deserved it!

Definition number two. The cause is the insurgency.

obviously false. just take a look at whats happening in iraq now.

whats happening in iraq now is the exact same as what was happening in iraq 3 days before he hang. idiot.

whats happening in iraq now is the exact same as what was happening in iraq 3 days before he hang. idiot.
Saddam was out of the picture the day he was captured. I'd consider him dead then.

obviously false. just take a look at whats happening in iraq now.

Kurds are still be systematically murdered by precision chemical attacks in which thousands of civilans are brutally murdered? Citizens are systematically abducted by an opressive goverment and tortured, then being exceuted and dumped in a mass grave?!?


Sharon! Get my glock! Im going in!

Saddam was out of the picture the day he was captured. I'd consider him dead then.

I agree. I'd have to say false only because of the fact that American soldiers made it more dangerous because at that point, Saddam was pretty much a distraction or sorts.

Saddam never harmed me, so for me it is as safe as before.
On a world scale maybe but it still doesn't effect me.

Kurds are still be systematically murdered by precision chemical attacks in which thousands of civilans are brutally murdered? Citizens are systematically abducted by an opressive goverment and tortured, then being exceuted and dumped in a mass grave?!?


Sharon! Get my glock! Im going in!

Saddam hasn't been in power for several years. Try to watch the news more often.

Kurds are still be systematically murdered by precision chemical attacks in which thousands of civilans are brutally murdered? Citizens are systematically abducted by an opressive goverment and tortured, then being exceuted and dumped in a mass grave?!?


Sharon! Get my glock! Im going in!

Replace "chemical attacks" with "IED's" and "oppressive government" with "groups of insurgents" and you've got Iraq in 2006.

Absolutely false.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/395000/images/_399844_husseing150.jpg (http://161.58.5.90/clue/true.wav)

False