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I'm sorry, you're incorrect. Have this box of paint thinner for a consolation gift. It can't hurt.

:rolleyes:
I guess you didn't follow the midterms, moron.

Oh, an internet tough guy. You get off on calling people morons, from behind the safety of your computer.

Well, color me impressed! You've clearly demonstrated how wrong both homosexuality and homosexual marriage - and hey, anal sex too - are, just by blurting out "moron" at the end of every post. Thank God for you!

that's the second time in 5 minutes you've used the word "moron".

May I suggest new material? It makes you look very....12ish.

Seriously. Read my posts if you need suggestions. I've got a bit of a knack for insults.

do you actually believe people vote against gay marriage because they think if gays can't get married they'll stop having sex?

Whoever believes that must be as stupid as you are.
No, that's not the point and anyone with half a brain knows that.You don't see us letting people get away with murder(literally) just because more people are going to be murdered down the road, do you? That's counter-productive to the cause, brainbox. You're sending people a signal.

Oh, an internet tough guy. You get off on calling people morons, from behind the safety of your computer.

Well, color me impressed! You've clearly demonstrated how wrong both homosexuality and homosexual marriage - and hey, anal sex too - are, just by blurting out "moron" at the end of every post. Thank God for you!
Let's not move on to new subjects so soon. You just said something very idiotic and I proved you wrong. Take a moment to consider how dumb you just made yourself look:)

No, that's not the point and anyone with half a brain knows that.

Then let me repeat my question. If people aren't voting down gay marriage out of a misguided belief that no gay marriage means no gay sex....what, exactly, does voting down gay marriage have to do with sex?

No, that's not the point and anyone with half a brain knows that.You don't see us letting people get away with murder(literally) just because more people are going to be murdered down the road, do you? That's counter-productive to the cause, brainbox. You're sending people a signal.

Murder ain't even comparable to homosexuality, poppet.

Let's not move on to new subjects so soon. You just said something very idiotic and I proved you wrong. Take a moment to consider how dumb you just made yourself look:)

if ya think you managed to prove....anything...I suggest maybe your self congratulating intellectual superiority may be a tad premature.

Let's not move on to new subjects so soon. You just said something very idiotic and I proved you wrong. Take a moment to consider how dumb you just made yourself look:)

My God, he just switched minds with Greater Trostia.

Yes, lets look at it.

I can see at least...three places on a woman's body a penis fits. Four usually.

Five if we're getting creative.
:confused: only five?
Six if she's had one of those operations that smokers sometime get when they have throat cancer.
that's rather dangerous... after all, she could drown since that leads straight to the lungs.
Vagina, ass, mouth, tits, eyesocket. That's five.
eyesocket? you have a woman keeping an eye out for you?!?

I would've though back of the elbows, back of the knees, (after all, you do include between the breasts... so bending the elbows and knees would also work...) armpits, hands... but is Arthais101 counting hands, elbows and knees each as one or two... left and right?

Murder ain't even comparable to homosexuality, poppet.
Sure it is. It's self-murder AKA suicide. It's a compulsion to do something that you are aware of is very detrimental to your health. It's the repeated ignoring of basic health skills and risk factor assessment.

:confused: only five?

that's rather dangerous... after all, she could drown since that leads straight to the lungs.

eyesocket? you have a woman keeping an eye out for you?!?

I would've though back of the elbows, back of the knees, (after all, you do include between the breasts... so bending the elbows and knees would also work...) armpits, hands... but is Arthais101 counting hands, elbows and knees each as one or two... left and right?

I was counting knees...and only once.

I didn't even think of elbows...and oddly completely blanked on hands.

That's...what...7?

i completely agree. governments should only recognize civil unions; leave religious unions to churches. it seems like a reasonable arrangement that all parties could accept. you go to the government to get your civil union papers. and then you go to a church to get your religious union papers. with respect to the government, the terms for 'marriage' should be univocal. call it a civil union. then different churches or secular humanist organizations can offer their own language, marriage or whatever.
Changing legislation is time-consuming and very resource-expensive. I see no reason why governments and tax-payers should be put to the time and expense of changing the language in legislation just to pander to the pathos of some group or groups who expedct they have a right to hold the rest of us to ransom.

Why should some group dictate to the whole how a common birth-right gets administered? Marriage belongs to humanity not to some special interest group like a religion. If a religious group doesnt like the social institution of marriage, they need not involve themselves. I wont be held to ransom and dictated to by some group who threatens theft but calls it a compromise.

Sure it is. It's self-murder AKA suicide. It's a compulsion to do something that you are aware of is very detrimental to your health. It's the repeated ignoring of basic health skills and risk factor assessment.

sex is very detrimental to your health? Shocking.

:eyesocket? you have a woman keeping an eye out for you?!?


That's the effort bit. Have to pop out an eyeball.

Anyways, there's far more than five or six spots. Trepanation gives another one. The nostrils can expand surprisingly wide. Best if you pick a cocaine addict, since the bit separating the nostrils will have worn away.

You just said something very idiotic and I proved you wrong.

No I didn't, and no you haven't. Assertion does not equal proof. Ad hominem arguments do not equate to being "right." As for saying idiotic things, frankly you're a fucking farm of idiotic phrases and I've been using you like a cheap whore, milking you for every drop. And like the proverbial drunken whore, you're too shit-faced to even understand the reality of your situation, until perhaps the next day when you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth and stickiness between your thighs.

No I didn't, and no you haven't. Assertion does not equal proof. Ad hominem arguments do not equate to being "right." As for saying idiotic things, frankly you're a fucking farm of idiotic phrases and I've been using you like a cheap whore, milking you for every drop. And like the proverbial drunken whore, you're too shit-faced to even understand the reality of your situation, until perhaps the next day when you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth and stickiness between your thighs.

and let's not forget the strange burning sensation when you sit.

No I didn't, and no you haven't. Assertion does not equal proof. Ad hominem arguments do not equate to being "right." As for saying idiotic things, frankly you're a fucking farm of idiotic phrases and I've been using you like a cheap whore, milking you for every drop. And like the proverbial drunken whore, you're too shit-faced to even understand the reality of your situation, until perhaps the next day when you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth and stickiness between your thighs.
Huh? Are you implying that my 'assertion' that the midterms happened isn't true? Oh boy, you've got a lot to learn before you make yourself also look extremely stupid with useless diatribes.

I was counting knees...and only once.

I didn't even think of elbows...and oddly completely blanked on hands.

That's...what...7?
lets count...
Vagina, ass, mouth, tits, Knees, Elbows, Armpits, Hands, Feet (yes, I saw a vid on feet fettish...) and oddly enough... between the legs.

A historical freak of a friend of mine once said that the old Roman/Greeks who were homosexuals did not penetrate the anus, but only rubbed themselves between the clenched thighs of their lovers... where he got that information, I don't want to know... but I can see it being done on a woman who doesn't want the penetration but still wants to... er... "simulate sex" so that's 10 so far... and then we can get into the realm of the really creative areas such as...

That's the effort bit. Have to pop out an eyeball.

Anyways, there's far more than five or six spots. Trepanation gives another one. The nostrils can expand surprisingly wide. Best if you pick a cocaine addict, since the bit separating the nostrils will have worn away.
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err.... ewww.... sorry... no thanks...

Edit... there is just rubbing it between buttock cheeks and not penetrating... so 11.

sex is very detrimental to your health? Shocking.
You're missing an adjective, buddy.;)

Huh? Are you implying that my 'assertion' that the midterms happened isn't true? Oh boy, you've got a lot to learn before you make yourself also look extremely stupid with useless diatribes.

they happened....and the democrats, the far more gay friendly party, won, and Arizona made history as the first state to DEFEAT a gay marriage ban.

So yes, let's look at our wonderful 2006. Another state added same sex civil unions (NJ), the legislature of MA refused to amend the constitution to ban same sex marriage, and Arizona became the first state to defeat a ballot referrendum banning same sex marriage.

What exactly are we supposed to be looking at?

Huh? Are you implying that my 'assertion' that the midterms happened isn't true?

No, your assertion that I've "just said something idiotic" and which you "proved wrong."

Please try to keep up.

Oh boy, you've got a lot to learn before you make yourself also look extremely stupid with useless diatribes.

Yeah, apparently I need to go to the "call people morons a lot" school of looking oh-so-smart.

You're missing an adjective, buddy.;)

you're missing a cranial hemosphere, pal.

they happened....and the democrats, the far more gay friendly party, won, and Arizona made history as the first state to DEFEAT a gay marriage ban.

So yes, let's look at our wonderful 2006. Another state added same sex civil unions (NJ), the legislature of MA refused to amend the constitution to ban same sex marriage, and Arizona became the first state to defeat a ballot referrendum banning same sex marriage.

What exactly are we supposed to be looking at?

Go find the list of states that voted to add a clause in their constitutions banning gay marriage:headbang:

I was counting knees...and only once.

I didn't even think of elbows...and oddly completely blanked on hands.

That's...what...7?

I like where this thread is going..

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err.... ewww.... sorry... no thanks...

Blame the guy who gave me a link to alt.sex.bondage without telling me what it was. Well, you can blame him for the skullfucking and squicking. I came up with the nostril one myself.

Oddly enough, I don't have any actual sexual kinks. Don't know where my mind gets this sort of stuff.

No, your assertion that I've "just said something idiotic" and which you "proved wrong."

Please try to keep up.


I can't stand people who argue like this. I did prove you(if I was even talking to you) when you said that there was no vote on gay marriage in response to my comment about voting in large numbers to ban gay marriage.

Go find the list of states that voted to add a clause in their constitutions banning gay marriage:headbang:

Spin however you wish, at the end of 2006 more states are allowing gay marriage/civil unions than were at the start, and at the end of 2006 more states had voted down a gay marriage ban than there were at the start, and at the end of 2006 the more gay friendly party had been placed in the majority.

Go find the list of states that voted to add a clause in their constitutions banning gay marriage:headbang:

Like I said, those people aren't normal people. Normal people have things like the right number of fingers, and eyes that point in the same direction.

I'd like to address the OP.

I'm a Pastafarian. My religion completely accepts homosexuality. If gay marriage isn't legal, then you are infringing on MY religious beliefs to satisfy your bigoted ones.

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I can't stand people who argue like this. I did prove you(if I was even talking to you) when you said that there was no vote on gay marriage in response to my comment about voting in large numbers to ban gay marriage.

who the fuck ever said there wasn't a vote on gay marriage?

Do find and quote for us please, I'd love to see a direct quote.

I can't stand people who argue like this.

Yeah, I can't stand it when people actually read and comprehend and then make logical points too. It's so annoying when I'm trying to justify my bigotry.

I did prove you(if I was even talking to you) when you said that there was no vote on gay marriage in response to my comment about voting in large numbers to ban gay marriage.

I never said there was no vote on gay marriage. Hence, your saying about me having said that is false - let alone your conclusion that such a statement is "idiotic" and "proved wrong." I'll be accepting your concession now.

oh and let me add this:

Conservatives did prevail in seven states where voters approved constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage, though CBS News political analyst Sam Best notes that they didn’t pass with as great of a margin as such bans did in 2004.

"We’re getting closer to 50-50," he says. "It seems to suggest that people are warming to the idea."

banning gay marriage is LOSING support, not gaining it.

And let's not forget another event in 2006, the constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage never making it out of congress.

Blame the guy who gave me a link to alt.sex.bondage without telling me what it was. Well, you can blame him for the skullfucking and squicking. I came up with the nostril one myself.

Oddly enough, I don't have any actual sexual kinks. Don't know where my mind gets this sort of stuff.probably the same place my mind goes when it's undergoing sleep deprivation... :D

I'd like to address the OP.

I'm a Pastafarian. My religion completely accepts homosexuality. If gay marriage isn't legal, then you are infringing on MY religious beliefs to satisfy your bigoted ones.

[/thread]are you suggesting that the OP has the power to MAKE laws?

And since they haven't one can conclude that normal people don't care.

Right here.
I was talking to him and you jumped on my back, asshole. You can review your comments in the threads after that quote.

Right here.
I was talking to him and you jumped on my back, asshole. You can review your comments in the threads after that quote.

and I believe we were talking about gay SEX, not gay marriage. And I also don't see the word "vote" in that quote anywhere, so it's hard to say we were talking about a vote on gay marriage.

And you still haven't answered my question, what does gay MARRIAGE have to do with gay SEX?

oh and let me add this:

banning gay marriage is LOSING support, not gaining it.

And let's not forget another event in 2006, the constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage never making it out of congress.
actually, it depens on your point of view. alot of states also had the supreme courts overturn the popular votes saying it's unconstitutional. thus it might not be them loosing support but their voices being overturned.

not taking a side, just pointing it out. :cool:

oh and let me add this:



banning gay marriage is LOSING support, not gaining it.

And let's not forget another event in 2006, the constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage never making it out of congress.
First of all, these things fluctuate, but mark my words, there will always be that 51% of moral America that will be waiting to strike down any gay marriage bills to come, me being one of the members.
Secondly, gotta love(hate) the Democrats!

Right here.
I was talking to him and you jumped on my back, asshole. You can review your comments in the threads after that quote.

The people who voted to ban it aren't normal.

actually, it depens on your point of view. alot of states also had the supreme courts overturn the popular votes saying it's unconstitutional. thus it might not be them loosing support but their voices being overturned.

not taking a side, just pointing it out. :cool:

buh?

What "a lot of states"?

First of all, these things fluctuate, but mark my words, there will always be that 51% of moral America that will be waiting to strike down any gay marriage bills to come, me being one of the members.
Secondly, gotta love(hate) the Democrats!

they said the same thing about slavery.

They said the same thing about giving women the right to vote.

They said the same thing about a lot of things.

Wrong on every single one of them.

Wrong on this too.

You aren't normal. You have an obsessive personality, judging by your continual fixation on homosexual acts.
Because we're discussing it, asshat.
IMHO, I think I have a pretty awesome personality:cool:

they said the same thing about slavery.

They said the same thing about giving women the right to vote.

They said the same thing about a lot of things.

Wrong on every single one of them.

Wrong on this too.

Yes, but unlike the things mentioned above, homoseuxality is actually immoral.;)

Because we're discussing it, asshat.

I believe the topic is "gay marriage" not "gay sex".

IMHO, I think I have a pretty awesome personality:cool:

You're the only one. Although I note you've gone from moron to asshat. Not an exception upgrade, but at least you're mixing it up.

buh?

What "a lot of states"?

more than two I think... if I remember right...

alot can mean more than two. ;)

Yes, but unlike the things mentioned above, homoseuxality is actually immoral.;)

says who? You? Who the fuck are you and why should I give a fuck what you think?

I was talking to him and you jumped on my back, asshole.
Your back arsehole? As differentiated from your front arshole? Hey, I didnt think you swung that way.

I believe the topic is "gay marriage" not "gay sex".



You're the only one. Although I note you've gone from moron to asshat. Not an exception upgrade, but at least you're mixing it up.
Gay marriage and gay sex are, believe it or not, intertwined:rolleyes:
Oh, and of course I'm mixing it up! I wouldn't want to leave you out of my colorful vocabulary!

Yes, but unlike the things mentioned above, homoseuxality is actually immoral.;)

No, it's not. In fact, let's ask God if it is.

Yo, God, is homosexuality immoral?

FUCK NO, TWO MEN GETTING IT ON IS HAWT!

more than two I think... if I remember right...

alot can mean more than two. ;)

two.

ONLY two.

Massachussets and New Jersey. Also, while I can't speak for NJ, recent polls in MA (I live in boston) suggest that about 65%ish of the residents of the state are just fine with gay marriage. NJ doesn't have gay marriage, has gay civil unions

So that would make the number of states that have had the courts rule in favor of gay marriage/civil union against the majority view point to be, AT MOST, 1.

says who? You? Who the fuck are you and why should I give a fuck what you think?
I do, but only because God says so.
Why should you give a fuck what I think? Touchy much?

Gay marriage and gay sex are, believe it or not, intertwined:rolleyes:

really? how? Again, do you think gay people will only have sex if they get married?

I do, but only because God says so.
Why should you give a fuck what I think? Touchy much?

Sorry, I asked God and he said homosexuality wasn't immoral. Do you dare contradict the word of your Lord?

I do, but only because God says so.

Ahh now we're getting to the fun parts.

Really? how do you know?

really? how? Again, do you think gay people will only have sex if they get married?
No....the point is not to condone immoral acts.
I'm done with you. I feel like I'm stuck on a carousel with a bunch of whiny idiots.

really? how? Again, do you think gay people will only have sex if they get married?Shhh.... Extra and Pre marital sex is also a sin... :p

Ahh now we're getting to the fun parts.

Really? how do you know?
'Cause he said so;)

Since when has homosexuality become something that must be "corrected" and something to look down upon? Love is love, no matter who, or what, it's with. I may be straight, but I believe that homosexuals deserve to be with one another in marriage and out of marriage. Besides, marriage is basically a legal binding between the two people, legal, not holy. Now, in an emotional and spiritual sense, sure, it may be holy in that sense, but, right now, church and state are not supposed to mix, even though they do, anyway, they shouldn't mix, yet, this debate over the marriage of homosexuals is contradicting the seperation of church and state.

If this point has already been debated over, than, my apollogies, for I only read the first few posts.

And, my apologies for any grammatical and/or spelling errors.

No....the point is not to condone immoral acts.
I'm done with you. I feel like I'm stuck on a carousel with a bunch of whiny idiots.

in other words..you can't actually back up your argument.

Go on, tell me how gay sex and gay marriage are intertwined.

Give it a shot.

'Cause he said so;)

Really? When? Were you there when he said it?

two.

ONLY two.

Massachussets and New Jersey. Also, while I can't speak for NJ, recent polls in MA (I live in boston) suggest that about 65%ish of the residents of the state are just fine with gay marriage. NJ doesn't have gay marriage, has gay civil unions

So that would make the number of states that have had the courts rule in favor of gay marriage/civil union against the majority view point to be, AT MOST, 1.

I thought California also had their ruling overturned but the Govenator stepped in saying "That's what the people wanted."

No....the point is not to condone immoral acts.
I'm done with you. I feel like I'm stuck on a carousel with a bunch of whiny idiots.

Are you done with me too? I noticed you shut up real quick once I proved you wrong on an issue of Basic Reading Comprehension.

I thought California also had their ruling overturned but the Govenator stepped in saying "That's what the people wanted."

to my knowledge the governor doesn't have the power to overrule a state supreme court constituion.

In other words, IF the state supreme court did do that, the governator saying "no" wouldn't matter much.

'Cause he said so;)

Sorry, but I quoted God saying the exact opposite. Heathen.

More non constructive talk

Everytime there is a rainbow it's because god is having gay sex.

I feel like I should break out my magical and mystical post it note on my deadk here that reads "everything that guy just said about me is bullshit. Sincerely, God".

I have a feeling I'm going to get in trouble for my behavior in this thread. But it was worth it.

to my knowledge the governor doesn't have the power to overrule a state supreme court constituion.

In other words, IF the state supreme court did do that, the governator saying "no" wouldn't matter much.

*shrugs* whatever... I was more interesting in the "Creative places to insert body parts" section of this thread anyway...

you know... for when I finally get a serious girlfriend. :p

I have a feeling I'm going to get in trouble for my behavior in this thread. But it was worth it.

nah I don't think either one of us did anything to cross the line.

Stand an inch from it and poke it with a stick, perhaps. But not cross.

*shrugs* whatever... I was more interesting in the "Creative places to insert body parts" section of this thread anyway...

you know... for when I finally get a serious girlfriend. :p

oh, I could send you a list... Though most folks (including me) will just stick with the basic 3 (or 4...or 5 if we count hands as a place).

I have a feeling [snipped]

that may be, but I hate to see you given an enforced and permament vacation for it.

I feel like I'm stuck on a carousel with a bunch of whiny idiots.
I think you're right, although I would note the condition appears to pre-date your having joined this thread.

that may be, but I hate to see you given an enforced and permament vacation for it.

Nah, haven't even gotten an official warning yet.

oh, I could send you a list... Though most folks (including me) will just stick with the basic 3 (or 4...or 5 if we count hands as a place).
... I think we covered them all... I'm not interesting in some of the creative spots CthulhuFhtagn suggested...









yet.

I feel like I'm stuck on a carousel with a bunch of whiny idiots.and now you know the problem of arguing religion to people who
1) don't share your beliefs
2) don't care for your beliefs... or show you as much though for your beliefs as you showed them

and you now experieced the futility of arguing religion and beliefs on an internet forum.

arguing religion here is like peeing in black pants... sure it can give you a warm feeling, but in reality, no one really notices and in the end, it leaves you cold.

arguing religion here is like peeing in black pants... sure it can give you a warm feeling, but really, no one really notices and in the end, it leaves you cold.

best.
analogy.
ever.

Some of the things that Fiumant said I honestly thought were sarcasm

best.
analogy.
ever.

thanks... too bad I messed it up and didn't correct it before you quoted it. :p

Well. In a secular state, the state cannot recognise religious terminological definitions as that would be a break with church-state separation. In fact, so far as the state is concerned; god does not exist and must therefore act accordingly on that assumption.

Some will therefore claim that marriage is the binding of two people legally of the opposite sex. (Sounds so clinical, doesn't it). But I pose the question? Why did you marry your wife/husband? Was it because they were a woman/man? Or was it because you loved them? And hypothetically speaking, if you loved a person of the same sex, would you wish for your government to afford an alternative recognition rather than the same recognition to that love? As if that love was not good enough; that it didn't stand as highly as heterosexual love!

Isn't legal apartheid nice, eh?

Why do you care who gets married to who?

It doesn't effect your life in any way.




I read your post up until you said the word 'God'

At this point, I'm going to tell you to shut the fuck up in as polite a manner as possible.

Give me one good reason that your belief in God should dictate the life of anyone but you.

How ironic. You should take your own advice about "Why do you care" re: God. There is also no polite way to say "shut the fuck up".

I have a feeling this is going towards the same sort of "uber-thread" status as that "Nazi/Israel" thread that Soviestan set up.

"Homosexuality, is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them, because it is apparently not in the interest of such rulers to have great ideas engendered in their subjects, or powerful friendships or passionate love-all of which homosexuality is particularly apt to produce." -Plato

That's all I have to say. *nod*

"Homosexuality, is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them, because it is apparently not in the interest of such rulers to have great ideas engendered in their subjects, or powerful friendships or passionate love-all of which homosexuality is particularly apt to produce." -Plato

That's all I have to say. *nod*

Plato is as smart as you are insane.

I got myself right married to a woman and t'weren't before God, neither.

I got myself right married to a woman and t'weren't before God, neither.

Aha!But God is everywhere.You don't have to get married in a church to be married before God.

Aha!But God is everywhere.You don't have to get married in a church to be married before God.

So, if gays marry, they'll also be married before God. Everyones happy and if God isn't, he'd smite the gayness.