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What's the difference between NSG American far right-wingers and Muslim extremists?

The Pacifist Womble
30-12-2006, 23:19
...apart from their religion of course.

Most of them are big on a politicised, selective interpretation of their religion
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12147725&postcount=109
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12143583&postcount=254

Most of them support Solving problems with violence
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11843341#post11843341
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497527
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497562
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11719403&postcount=53
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12029344

Most of them are easily offended and angered, and overly proud (thus love the idea of revenge)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12143151&postcount=22
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12147917&postcount=40

Many hate adherents of the "opposing religions".
...just look at their signatures...

A good chunk of them hate gays.

Many think censorship is a good thing
(see whining about "liberal media")

Sadism
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512687
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512217

(credit to Ultraviolent Radiation (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12150192&postcount=130))
Congo--Kinshasa
30-12-2006, 23:22
The Muslim extremists wear turbans and worship a different God. That's all I can think of. :confused:
Hydesland
30-12-2006, 23:23
lol
Desperate Measures
30-12-2006, 23:23
Different headwear? One likes Blue Collar TV?
Ifreann
30-12-2006, 23:24
I know that both of them are in a failure of a copycat thread.
Fassigen
30-12-2006, 23:24
A good chunk of them hate gays.

And both sides want to kill me. :)
Nodinia
30-12-2006, 23:25
The Muslim extremists wear turbans and worship a different God. That's all I can think of. :confused:

There is the fortunate thing that theres less muslim extremists, who also have less power and influence. Plus most arent under the delusion that they're anyting other than a pack of wankers....
Desperate Measures
30-12-2006, 23:26
And both sides want to kill me. :)

That hardly makes them unique. :)
The Pacifist Womble
30-12-2006, 23:27
Shit, I should have posted sources. Excuse me while I gather them.
Fiumant
30-12-2006, 23:28
What's the difference between left wingers and Muslim extremists?

Left wingers aren't inspired to hate America and Christians through religion. It just comes naturally for them.
Pyotr
30-12-2006, 23:38
This thread is just as trollish as the first.
Ifreann
30-12-2006, 23:40
What's the difference between left wingers and Muslim extremists?

Left wingers aren't inspired to hate America and Christians through religion. It just comes naturally for them.

What's the difference between left wing and right wing trolls?


Other than their name and rhetoric, nothing.
Zarakon
30-12-2006, 23:41
Well, a big similarity between teh two is that people compare them to groups absolutely nothing like them.
Fiumant
30-12-2006, 23:44
:mad: What's the difference between left wing and right wing trolls?


Other than their name and rhetoric, nothing.

Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me!





:upyours:
Fassigen
30-12-2006, 23:45
That hardly makes them unique. :)

But it joins together the strangest sets of people.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 23:45
:mad:

Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me!





:upyours:

So, you must really hate peace.
Ifreann
30-12-2006, 23:46
:mad:

Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me!





:upyours:

:fluffle:
Fiumant
30-12-2006, 23:47
So, you must really hate peace.
No, just annoying little shits that parade around like phony peace-makers;)
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 23:48
No, just annoying little shits that parade around like phony peace-makers;)

Like you?
Fiumant
30-12-2006, 23:48
Like you?
Are you literate?
Seriously.
Ifreann
30-12-2006, 23:49
No, just annoying little shits that parade around like phony peace-makers;)

There is much anger in this one.
Fiumant
30-12-2006, 23:50
There is much anger in this one.
Ok, Yoda:fluffle:
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 23:55
Are you literate?
Seriously.

As I am reading and writing, obviously. Are you?
Fiumant
30-12-2006, 23:58
As I am reading and writing, obviously. Are you?
According to your standard, yes. Although, being literate usually implies that you read something and comprehend what it meant so that you don't say something really stupid in reply to it.;)
CthulhuFhtagn
31-12-2006, 00:00
According to your standard, yes. Although, being literate usually implies that you read something and comprehend what it meant so that you don't say something really stupid in reply to it.;)

Ah, then you aren't literate.
Fiumant
31-12-2006, 00:04
Ah, then you aren't literate.
Oh boy, you're slick. I better watch out for this one.
The Pacifist Womble
31-12-2006, 00:46
OK, proof has been provided.

What's the difference between left wingers and Muslim extremists?

Left wingers aren't inspired to hate America and Christians through religion. It just comes naturally for them.
You need to get into the thread I'm copying, not this one.
MrMopar
31-12-2006, 01:50
This thread is just as trollish as the first.
It's true, in my experience.
The Pacifist Womble
31-12-2006, 02:43
Come on, this thread is clearly superior to Criik's. Why?

1. I posted proof.

2. I'm still here, no hit-and-run.

3. My thread is true.
The Pacifist Womble
31-12-2006, 22:48
bump
Soheran
31-12-2006, 22:57
Nothing at all, except for choice of bloodthirsty, bigoted deity and perversion of a religion.
Soheran
31-12-2006, 22:58
3. My thread is true.

This is the crucial difference.
Seangoli
31-12-2006, 22:59
And both sides want to kill me. :)

Silly Fass, everyone wants to kill you. It has nothing to do with ideaology.
Criik
31-12-2006, 23:00
What a stupid thread, you blame me for generalizing, but you are doing it just as badly.
Greater Trostia
31-12-2006, 23:04
What a stupid thread, you blame me for generalizing, but you are doing it just as badly.

So you are admitting that you generalize and make stupid threads?
Criik
31-12-2006, 23:06
So you are admitting that you generalize and make stupid threads?

People generalize all the time without complaint, it is not nescicerally a bad thing. When someone says, all fundamentalists are crazy, that is a generalization and yet everyone accepts it.
The Madchesterlands
31-12-2006, 23:08
Rush Limbaugh.
Greater Trostia
31-12-2006, 23:09
People generalize all the time without complaint, it is not nescicerally a bad thing. When someone says, all fundamentalists are crazy, that is a generalization and yet everyone accepts it.

I see; it's only a bad generalization when you're the one it paints. When you have the brush in your hand, it's OK.
Sheni
31-12-2006, 23:14
People generalize all the time without complaint, it is not nescicerally a bad thing. When someone says, all fundamentalists are crazy, that is a generalization and yet everyone accepts it.

You have a thread on this forum saying that all leftists are crazy.
You play dirty, we play dirty.
Desperate Measures
31-12-2006, 23:14
People generalize all the time without complaint, it is not nescicerally a bad thing. When someone says, all fundamentalists are crazy, that is a generalization and yet everyone accepts it.

fun·da·men·tal·ism (fnd-mntl-zm)
n.
1. A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.


So, yeah. If you are not a fundamentalist of whatever type, you'd be pretty weird not to think that fundamentalism is crazy.
Criik
31-12-2006, 23:16
I see; it's only a bad generalization when you're the one it paints. When you have the brush in your hand, it's OK.

I'm not a fundamentalist.
Greater Trostia
31-12-2006, 23:17
I'm not a fundamentalist.

Sure. And I'm not a "typical liberal." That's the thing about generalizations - they're often wrong, and therefore insulting. I wonder why you make them, then.
The Brevious
01-01-2007, 06:31
...apart from their religion of course.

Most of them are big on a politicised, selective interpretation of their religion
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12147725&postcount=109
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12143583&postcount=254

Most of them support Solving problems with violence
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11843341#post11843341
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497527
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497562
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11719403&postcount=53
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12029344

Most of them are easily offended and angered, and overly proud (thus love the idea of revenge)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12143151&postcount=22
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12147917&postcount=40

Many hate adherents of the "opposing religions".
...just look at their signatures...

A good chunk of them hate gays.

Many think censorship is a good thing
(see whining about "liberal media")

Sadism
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512687
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512217

(credit to Ultraviolent Radiation (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12150192&postcount=130))
I like yer moxie, padnah. :cool:
*bows*
The Brevious
01-01-2007, 06:47
Silly Fass, everyone wants to kill you. It has nothing to do with ideaology.

Does it have to do with fashion sense, then?








*sizzle*
New Domici
01-01-2007, 07:03
The Muslim extremists wear turbans and worship a different God. That's all I can think of. :confused:

No. It's the same God. They just think that Jesus was one of his prophets and not his only begotten son.
New Domici
01-01-2007, 07:04
Sure. And I'm not a "typical liberal." That's the thing about generalizations - they're often wrong, and therefore insulting. I wonder why you make them, then.

All generalizations are wrong. Including this one.
New Domici
01-01-2007, 07:04
What a stupid thread, you blame me for generalizing, but you are doing it just as badly.

No. He's doing it far better. He provides links to back up his assertion and is funnier.
New Domici
01-01-2007, 07:05
People generalize all the time without complaint, it is not nescicerally a bad thing. When someone says, all fundamentalists are crazy, that is a generalization and yet everyone accepts it.

That's not a generalization. It's a tautology.
New Domici
01-01-2007, 07:11
According to your standard, yes. Although, being literate usually implies that you read something and comprehend what it meant so that you don't say something really stupid in reply to it.;)

Not necessarily. In the early days of Christianity literate often meant nothing more than having the time to sit down and copy symbols that you didn't understand and could not read.

There is a handwriting sample from the Christian scribe of one village or another (can't remember the name offhand) where he was practicing his notary signature over and over again. It said something to the effect of (with a made up name that I can't remember for real):

I am Bob Jones the scribe of this village and I attest that this is true.
I am Bob Jones the scribe of this village and I attest that this is true.
I am Bob Jones the scribe of this village and I attest that this is true.
I am Bob Jones the scribe of attest that this is true.
I am Bob Jones the scribe of attest that this is true.
I am Bob Jones the scribe of attest that this is true.
I am Bob Jones the scribe of attest that this is true.


Yes, he made a mistake and repeated it the rest of the way down the page. He didn't understand what he was writing, he just copied the previous line. He was the scribe and was thought to be literate. And it was his job to write copies of the Bible.
The Pacifist Womble
01-01-2007, 17:45
Nothing at all, except for choice of bloodthirsty, bigoted deity and perversion of a religion.
Allah/God isn't bigoted, because He loves everybody.

Both groups have perverted the good names of the religions though. :(

I like yer moxie, padnah. :cool:
*bows*
Thanks, but I was really hoping for more debate than just back-slapping!

So, yeah. If you are not a fundamentalist of whatever type, you'd be pretty weird not to think that fundamentalism is crazy.
That's not a generalization. It's a tautology.
Fundamentalism is not synonymous with "crazy".

The Amish, for example, are fundamentalists, yet they are not considered to be crazy or extremist.
Soheran
01-01-2007, 17:48
Allah/God isn't bigoted, because He loves everybody.

If that kind of god exists, they don't worship Him.
Arinola
01-01-2007, 18:05
These threads are funny. :)
The Pacifist Womble
01-01-2007, 18:11
If that kind of god exists, they don't worship Him.
Nice job, generalising about 3.5 billion people.