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...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.
Source?

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.
Source?

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.
Source?

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Source?

I consider myself a left winger, and as such I'm afraid I have to tell you that your description is hopelessly inaccurate in its presumptions.

D-

Must try harder.

Here we go again....

In the name of the Lord Almighty James Mason, I implore thee, stop it, goddamn.

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Which ones?

Instafail'd.

...impart from their religion of course.

No,we're quite different thanks.I tend not to compare myself to a religious extremist.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Wrong and wrong.You're generalising,badly.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

So I'm not a fan,but I certainly wouldn't want a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

I am a Christian,and defend Islam.I think religious intolerance is disgusting.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

No,no and no.The culture is fine as it is,but I'm not against change,it's not a bad thing.
Yes,I would like to see everything Islamised.Bring in Sharia Law!I'm gunna grow a beardHooray for the veil! Stop generalising,again.
I couldn't care less if Muslims start flooding in.What's wrong with multiculturalism?You're obviously under the impression that Muslims will come in,steal our jobs,women and houses,and generally remove our culture and replace us.Well,you're wrong.Even if it does happen,who cares?Not much we can do about it-and there's nothing wrong with it either.

Sad

Yep, he's not the best troll we've had on here, but give him a little time. I see great potential there.

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Jeez,troll.PROVIDE a source.Don't just say "Oh I saw it on an NSG thread!Honest!" and expect us to believe you.

Which ones?

Indeed. If you're gonna claim a large chunk of us are muslim extremists with different religions then you're going to want a lot of proof or we're just going to point and laugh at you.

Yep, he's not the best troll we've had on here, but give him a little time. I see great potential there.

The Troll is strong with this one.

Indeed. If you're gonna claim a large chunk of us are muslim extremists with different religions then you're going to want a lot of proof or we're just going to point and laugh at you.

I thought that's what we're doing right now? I know I am... :D

Yep, he's not the best troll we've had on here, but give him a little time. I see great potential there.

Hmm, yes, strong the force in this one is.

I thought that's what we're doing right now? I know I am... :D

Yeah, but we'l stop if he posts proof. Though I dare say we'll just start laughing again afterwards.

The Troll is strong with this one.

Hmm, yes, strong the force in this one is.

Luke?
Leia?
How nice to see you two

Yeah, but we'l stop if he posts proof. Though I dare say we'll just start laughing again afterwards.

Knowing him, that "proof" will be hilarious enough :D

Yep, he's not the best troll we've had on here, but give him a little time. I see great potential there.

I dunno,he's getting pretty good.

Anyway to Criik:

Being against Israels foreing policy =/= wanting the removal of the country

Same goes for the USA.

I truly mourn for the days of decent trolling. Young'un's these days don't even try to make decent threads...

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Oh so true.

I truly mourn for the days of decent trolling. Young'un's these days don't even try to make decent threads...

Yeah, Trolls always make decent threads, amazingly great ones in fact!

:rolleyes:

Anyway to Criik:

Being against Israels foreing policy =/= wanting the removal of the country

Same goes for the USA.

So thats why people make threads about how the Palestinians are freedom fighters, and how Israel should never have existed/is an illegal country so terrorist orginisations have the right to continue what they are doing :rolleyes:

I truly mourn for the days of decent trolling. Young'un's these days don't even try to make decent threads...

I think we're getting too good at anti-trolling. They never have time to develop before we send them packing.

Oh so true.

Don't feed the troll.Do you know every NSG left winger on here?No.But I'm sure the outcry from the left wingers on this forum has already proved your statement wrong.

So thats why people make threads about how the Palestinians are freedom fighters, and how Israel should never have existed/is an illegal country so terrorist orginisations have the right to continue what they are doing :rolleyes:

We have a search function, go find some.

I consider myself a left winger, and as such I'm afraid I have to tell you that your description is hopelessly inaccurate in its presumptions.

yes. The End.

I think we're getting too good at anti-trolling. They never have time to develop before we send them packing.

Sort of an elite anti-trolling squad.With bazookas,and tacos!

Maybe we should create a troll feeding squad?Just to let one develop.For funsies.

Sort of an elite anti-trolling squad.With bazookas,and tacos!

Maybe we should create a troll feeding squad?Just to let one develop.For funsies.

I think the troll feeding squad would need bazookas and tacos too.

So thats why people make threads about how the Palestinians are freedom fighters, and how Israel should never have existed/is an illegal country so terrorist orginisations have the right to continue what they are doing :rolleyes:

Can you please direct me to the thread where the majority of NSG left wingers said anything like that?

Oh wait, you can't, because your pulling this crap right out of your ass.

So thats why people make threads about how the Palestinians are freedom fighters, and how Israel should never have existed/is an illegal country so terrorist orginisations have the right to continue what they are doing :rolleyes:

Still waiting for those beautiful,beautiful links...

I think the troll feeding squad would need bazookas and tacos too.

Bazookas and tacos for everyone!

Why should I provide links, look at the threads yourself if you don't believe me.

Why should I provide links, look at the threads yourself if you don't believe me.

You're making the claim, you back it up. Don't expect us to do it for you. We're lazy :)

Why should I provide links, look at the threads yourself if you don't believe me.

No.In short.
In long,no,you made this pathetic out-your-ass argument,you provide the sources to back it up.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.
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Oh so true.
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Why should I provide links, look at the threads yourself if you don't believe me.
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Many, many things.

No.In short.
In long,no,you made this pathetic out-your-ass argument,you provide the sources to back it up.

Don't bother, hes not going to provide any, i've tried before.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.
Well, besides the fact that I don't believe in God, Allah, Vishnu or any other sky fairy,none of the rest is true.

I think Israel has the right to exist, even though I'm not always happy with their actions. Unlike certain "rightists" I don't follow the idea that Israel can do no wrong.

I love the USA, that's why I bitch about it's failures so much. I want it to be as close to perfect as possible. I believe blind jingoism is the opposite of true patriotism.

I don't hate all Christians, just the ones like you. I don't love all Muslims, just the moderate and civilized ones like my friends. They are far more reasonable than you have shown yourself to be in your short time on the forum. I will shed no tears if it stays short.

Don't bother, hes not going to provide any, i've tried before.

Ah come on,it's friday night,I've got hours to burn.Might as well spend it troll-bashing.
Though I'd already guessed he wouldn't source anything,I've seen his threads before.He's a bit of a rubbish troll really.

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Many, many things.

...What?

Sort of an elite anti-trolling squad.With bazookas,and tacos!

Maybe we should create a troll feeding squad?Just to let one develop.For funsies.
I'd love to be on the troll feeding squad. I'm good at it.

...What?

The differences between NSG leftists and muslim extremists.

I'd love to be on the troll feeding squad. I'm good at it.

I think we're all quite good at it.All you do is talk to it,and it spews out more shite from wherever it's producing it.

The differences between NSG leftists and muslim extremists.

Oh!Gotcha :p

I'd love to be on the troll feeding squad. I'm good at it.

Me, too. And there's tacos. :D

Me, too. And there's tacos. :D

I'd go to hell if there were tacos there :p

How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane. That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his political opinions.

The statement was used to get some of the people with those views thinking, about how absurd their views are, not to debate the validility of the statement about most left wingers being that way.

How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane. That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his politicle opinions.

The statement was used to get some of the people with those views thinking, about how absurd their views are, not to debate the validility of the statement about most left wingers being that way.

If you can't provide proof or at least evidence, don't present a statement as fact. Currently, all you offer is an opinion, and not a very well thought-through one either.

sign me up for the troll feeding squad

*thats one more NS thing im in*

How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane. That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his political opinions.
No, just the left wingers. Then prove that they, or at least the majority of them, are very similar to, but are not muslim extremists.

The statement was used to get some of the people with those views thinking, about how absurd their views are, not to debate the validility of the statement about most left wingers being that way.

So you think we should all run screaming to the right wing and beg them to let us in because we might share opinions in some matters with muslim extremists?

How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane. That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his political opinions.

The statement was used to get some of the people with those views thinking, about how absurd their views are, not to debate the validility of the statement about most left wingers being that way.

But...

...You just said you can't provide links to the people you're supposedly targeting, which means you can't prove that their views are absurd, and that...

*Head explodes*

[B]How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane.
:eek: The insanity of it all!You know what?I apologise.For all of us mean left wingers asking you to provide sources for your arseish claims.
That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his political opinions.

No,that would mean you provide some threads,started by left wingers,and following posts,by left wingers,which support your argument.

The statement was used to get some of the people with those views thinking

Those "people with those views" don't actually exist in the grand scheme of things,you know?

about how absurd their views are

Your views are pretty absurd.

not to debate the validility of the statement about most left wingers being that way.

No,you started this thread because you thought NSG left wingers are alike to Muslim extremists,no other reason.

But...

...You just said you can't provide links to the people you're supposedly targeting, which means you can't prove that their views are absurd, and that...

*Head explodes*

I think our troll feeding squad will need a medic for cases of troll observers who tried to understand trolling with logic... It can cause serious mental damage.

I think our troll feeding squad will need a medic for cases of troll observers who tried to understand trolling with logic... It can cause serious mental damage.

*orders head de-exploders*

I think our troll feeding squad will need a medic for cases of troll observers who tried to understand trolling with logic... It can cause serious mental damage.

I've lost that Scanners .gif :(
Probably a good thing, otherwise this forum would get very messy...

Oh, and I give that an F. Rubbish.

sign me up for the troll feeding squad

*thats one more NS thing im in*

Beast.I thought it up,so I'm leader :p

I think our troll feeding squad will need a medic for cases of troll observers who tried to understand trolling with logic... It can cause serious mental damage.Absolutely. And some computer repair persons for all the damage that will occur when we bang our heads against various pieces of hardware in frustration.
Perhaps a few techs who can fix stuff when the computer goes up in flames going "does not compute, does not compute."

How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane. That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his political opinions.

The statement was used to get some of the people with those views thinking, about how absurd their views are, not to debate the validility of the statement about most left wingers being that way.

:eek: MY GOD! IT'S SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS MAN! :eek:

*Cue themesong*

And he's using his superpower; Failure to back up statements! Look out!
*Flees*
But...

...You just said you can't provide links to the people you're supposedly targeting, which means you can't prove that their views are absurd, and that...

*Head explodes*

That's what you get for feeding the troll...

:eek: Please, think of the children! :eek:
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But...

...You just said you can't provide links to the people you're supposedly targeting, which means you can't prove that their views are absurd, and that...

*Head explodes*

Just becaue I havn't provided sources for these people (which so plainly do exist) doesn't mean they do not exist.

Just becaue I havn't provided sources for these people (which so plainly do exist) doesn't mean they do not exist.

If they do exist then providing sources should be easy. Go ahead, we won't go anywhere.

Absolutely. And some computer repair persons for all the damage that will occur when we bang our heads against various pieces of hardware in frustration.
Perhaps a few techs who can fix stuff when the computer goes up in flames going "does not compute, does not compute."

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Just becaue I havn't provided sources for these people (which so plainly do exist) doesn't mean they do not exist.

Name a few then.

Beast.I thought it up,so I'm leader :p

you can be i just want to add to this

Member of the TBD,CW,IISA church
Head of the NSDF and NSPDF

Just becaue I havn't provided sources for these people (which so plainly do exist) doesn't mean they do not exist.

Then show us.

you can be i just want to add to this

Member of the TBD,CW,IISA church
Head of the NSDF and NSPDF

Huzzah!OK then.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.
I am and NS left-winger, and a Christian. There are a few whose opinions on the above topics are frighteningly close to those of Islamic extremists (Oceandrive, United Beleriand) but otherwise you're completely wrong. It is not, by any means "most".

Luke?
Leia?
How nice to see you two
Isn't it sick that Luke is Leia's brother, and her lover? I just recently found that out.*

*Yes, this is very much a deliberate threadjack.

D-

Must try harder.
you gave him points on spelling?

Isn't it sick that Luke is Leia's brother, and her lover? I just recently found that out.*

*Yes, this is very much a deliberate threadjack.

If you can't keep it in your pants keep it in the family.

*orders head de-exploders*

*sends a box of Duct Tape*

Before I start, may I say that I'm about as left wing as they come and the last time I took the Political Compass test I got -9.8 economic, -8 social.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Completely wrong, I support Israel as one of the few liberal democracies in the region and one of the few middle eastern countries where women have equal rights.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

I dislike many of the US's actions, but I certainly don't hate the US or it's inhabitants.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians,

Which would explain why most of my best friends are Christian. :rolleyes:

but are always very quick to defend Islam.

I attack bigots regardless of their religion. I've attacked Christian bigots, I've attacked Atheist bigots, I've attacked Muslim bigots. If I ever encounter a Jewish bigot then I'll cheerfully attack them too. On the other hand, I'll defend any one's right to peacefully practice their religion in a tolerant manner (although I'm not religious myself).

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one,

That's probably why I want an Establishment clause in the new UK constitution. :rolleyes:

and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Unlike you, I don't believe in admitting or barring immigrants based on their religion.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

I am indeed against the existence of Israel, but then, I am against the existence of all states; my position on this question does not at all resemble that of the Islamic fanatics. 0 of 1.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

I hate the US government, I hate US imperialism, and I am against the existence of the US for the same reason I am against the existence of all states, but I don't support murdering Americans and I certainly don't oppose the liberalism and secularism (such as it is) that we have here. 0 of 2.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

I am very quick to defend Muslims against unjust attacks - like the notion that they are all a bunch of terrorists out to murder us. Sometimes this involves defending Islam as a religion that is hardly any worse than any of the others.

My attacks on Christianity are easily applied to all religions, and to the extent that they are directed at Christianity in particular, it is so simply because in our largely Christian society, it is the most available target.

I certainly don't hate Christianity any more than I hate Islam. I don't really hate either; I just don't like organized religion very much.

0 of 3.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one,

I don't care about culture. What I care about is freedom.

That means we permit the free movement of peoples while opposing anti-liberal tendencies, whether they come from far-right ultra-nationalists or conservative Muslims.

This position is antithetical to that of the Muslim extremists. They want a culture that rigorously enforces conservative Islam; I want a liberal one.

0 of 4. You lose.

If you can't keep it in your pants keep it in the family.

Ugh.


But you do realize Luke is not Leia's lover, don't you? She eventually marries Han Solo. And therefore, he changed his name to "Han Not-getting-off-solo-any-more."

Isn't it sick that Luke is Leia's brother, and her lover? I just recently found that out.*

*Yes, this is very much a deliberate threadjack.
Lovers? not! they only kissed once per movie

I don't want to blow shit up. I'm not a Muslim

thats at least 2

I like Bon Jovi

Probably 3 I dunno about the music tastes of Musim Exteremists

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

I'm no great fan of Israel, it shouldn't be there, and the twisting of the Zionist dream hasn't improved my opinion.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.
I would prefer an America still under British rule.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.
I try to treat all religions with an relative level level of hatred (all Abrahamic ones are pretty terrible).

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.
I do not like the idea of the change in culture, but I have no problem with immigrants, provided they are legal and willing to intergrate with their new society.

In fact I'm fairly rightwing so I don't know why I bothered with a thread targeted at leftist people, but what the science.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Actually, I think you would be closer to them.
From your posts, you hate human rights, they hate human rights.
Back it up, you say?
You haven't backed yours up, so I can say whatever I want without proving it too.
You also troll worse then they do, BTW. The president of Iran (can't spell his name) would be a great troll if he ever got on NSG.

Actually, I think you would be closer to them.
From your posts, you hate human rights, they hate human rights.
Back it up, you say?
You haven't backed yours up, so I can say whatever I want without proving it too.
You also troll worse then they do, BTW. The president of Iran (can't spell his name) would be a great troll if he ever got on NSG.

I have a feeling Ahmadinejad is already a troll on this thread, judging by some peoples posts.

I have a feeling Ahmadinejad is already a troll on this thread, judging by some peoples posts.

There is/was a poster by that name.

There is/was a poster by that name.

Yes, but he wasn't the president of Iran.
Or was he?:eek:

Yes, but he wasn't the president of Iran.
Or was he?:eek:

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, this may be weird, but I would only be quite suprised, as aposed to really suprised.

I wonder where the original moron skipped off to.

I wonder where the original moron skipped off to.

Back under the bridge with the rest of the trolls.

Look, another miscreant scumbag shit-for-brains troll!

Lovers? not! they only kissed once per movie

I heard they were having a fling during the original and the 'kiss for luck' was an ad-lib. Kinda screwed up they story line a bit so they had to roll with it, due to time/financial constraints.

But, hey- it was just something I heard.

*snort*

criik, you owe me a keyboard. i'll take a voucher, but i'd prefer cash.

pointing

laughing

and not taking the bait

sad little troll

How could I possible proove what I say using sources, thats insane. That would mean I would have to list everysingle NS user and provide his political opinions.


So in other words your claims are true because they're horribly absurd and completely untestable.

I see.

Orginal post
F
*Points and laughs*

So in other words your claims are true because they're horribly absurd and completely untestable.

Pyotr, you're obviously not acquainted with Bizarro logic, are you? OF COURSE the statements being horribly absurd and untestable make them truthful! :D

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

What's the difference between a right winger and a donkey?

What's the difference between a right winger and a donkey?

Is it something to do with Jesus?

What's the difference between a right winger and a donkey?

One's an ass, and the other's the symbol of the Democratic Party?

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Except I believe in none of those things. Good job, though.

Is it something to do with Jesus?

One's an ass, and the other's the symbol of the Democratic Party?

No, seriously, was just asking, what's the difference? ;)
How is a raven like a writing desk?

D-

You're too generous.

The only similairity I see is that both have terrorists.


Oh, I crack myself up!

Whats the difference between NSG left wingers and muslim extremists?

I'd say that the key difference lies not in beliefs - it is the underlying fact that Muslim Extremists don't eat half as many chips and rice crispy squares as NSG's left-wingers; and boy howdy, if you were left wing kinda guy, you'd realise just how brave these young men actually are!

What's the difference between me(an NSG left winger) and muslim extremists?

I'm not one of them mexican jews!

(He can be absurd, so can I!)

I don't think this is something limited to left wingers, but in the Troll's defense, I have noticed that people here are extremely quick to defend Islam, while tearing apart Christianity in the same breath. Why's that?

This is the single biggest jackass thread I've EVER witnessed on NSG.

Criik, you ignorant slut!!! STFU and take your trolling to little green footballs or something, asshole.

Because, like, we're all really bad people that want the world to rot from within and just live off hate because we're pinkoes? I dunno...is it an increasing trend or what?

I can't see any difference either. In fact, NSG's left wingers ARE Muslim Extremists.

Here, I'll prove it with FACTS.

FACT: Prisons have a sizeable Muslim Extremist population and growth/recruitment rate.

FACT: Australia was founded as a penal colony.

FACT: Max Barry, creater of NationStates (and a left winger), is Australian.

CONCLUSION: NSG = Terroristville, United States of Terrorismica!

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

I don't like that Israel is trying to fuck up Palestine (not taking sides; they're trying just as hard at Israel), but I don't hate Israel.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

I love the USA. That's why I hate George Bush.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

I don't hate Christiandom any more than I hate other religions, which I don't. I could care less what you believe in; what matters to me is my freedom, and everyone elses'.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Again, I could care less.

This is the single biggest jackass thread I've EVER witnessed on NSG.

Criik, you ignorant slut!!! STFU and take your trolling to little green footballs or something, asshole.

You beat me to it. :(

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

I'm rather left. And I disagree with all these points...

I can't see any difference either. In fact, NSG's left wingers ARE Muslim Extremists.

Here, I'll prove it with FACTS.

FACT: Prisons have a sizeable Muslim Extremist population and growth/recruitment rate.

FACT: Australia was founded as a penal colony.

FACT: Max Barry, creater of NationStates (and a left winger), is Australian.

CONCLUSION: NSG = Terroristville, United States of Terrorismica!
*giggles*

This is the single biggest jackass thread I've EVER witnessed on NSG.

I guess you missed DK's "sterilize all the Muslims with a disease that only targets Muslims" thread/

I can't see any difference either. In fact, NSG's left wingers ARE Muslim Extremists.

Here, I'll prove it with FACTS.

FACT: Prisons have a sizeable Muslim Extremist population and growth/recruitment rate.

FACT: Australia was founded as a penal colony.

FACT: Max Barry, creater of NationStates (and a left winger), is Australian.

CONCLUSION: NSG = Terroristville, United States of Terrorismica!

Lol, actually the US has a far more violent and criminal past than aus, all things considered.

I can't see any difference either. In fact, NSG's left wingers ARE Muslim Extremists.

Here, I'll prove it with FACTS.

FACT: Prisons have a sizeable Muslim Extremist population and growth/recruitment rate.

FACT: Australia was founded as a penal colony.

FACT: Max Barry, creater of NationStates (and a left winger), is Australian.

CONCLUSION: NSG = Terroristville, United States of Terrorismica!

wrong just some state's were founded as a penal colony not all of Australia

an funny i don't see bombs going off here

wrong just some state's were founded as a penal colony not all of Australia

an funny i don't see bombs going off here

FACT: Imperial isa does not understand jokes.

FACT: Imperial isa does not understand jokes.

fact i don't like people :p

There are also right winged people here who disagree with Israel's racist policies. :rolleyes:

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

Most of them think you're a nincompoop.

Of course, I'm neither a left-winger nor a muslim extremist.

But I see their point. :)

This is the single biggest jackass thread I've EVER witnessed on NSG.

Criik, you ignorant slut!!! STFU and take your trolling to little green footballs or something, asshole.

Cut the flaming.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

I consider myself half-and-half. Not a centrist, but a mix of left and right views which mught be held as fairly extreme on boths ends of the spectrum. So, as a part right-winger, my view on your comment:

Please, stop! You do know that it's your kind that are making us the subject of ridicue, right?

As a part leftist, my response to your accusations:

I support Isreal, but am not afraid of critiscising its actions when I feel they are ill-considered or immoral.

I support the cause (inaliable rights, democracy, blah-blah-blah, not just supporting everything it does) of the US and find the people agreeable and optimistic by comparison to those of my home country. I do, however, feel that it is becoming an undesirable place to actually live.

I defend any religion which, when practised sensibly, is... well, sensible, from unfair critiscism. Both Christians and Muslims are often victims of such. I abhor extremists of both religiouns, of any religioun. Whether they be an Al-Queada suicide bomber killing inocent people with their bombs, or bible-belters ruining innocent people's lives with their ridiculouys abortion policy and refusing obvious scientific evidance. For reference, I am an athiest.

I don't give a shit about "western culture", for the following reasons:

1) First and foremost, it is fictional. Polish culture can hardly be meaningfully lumped together with Spanish culture. All following reasons concern the individual cultures, using my native one as an example.

2) Before the Celts crossed the channel, there were people in Britain. They had a culture. It was absorbed by the Celts. Before the Saxons crossed the channel, there were Celts in Britain They had a culture. It was partly absorbed by the Saxons. Before the Normans crossed the channel, there were Saxons living in Britain. They had a culture. It largely absorbed that of the Normans. As the tourists cross the Atlantic, there are Britons living in Briton. We are begining to absorb their culture.

So how is Islamic culture, such of it as exists (see point one) any differant?

3) In my mind, Britishness in compatible with Islam. A Muslim can display any of a huge number of British traits. Mixing religioun and culture is stupid.

You realise this has basically descended to masurbation (sorry first analogy to come to mind) right? I dont think Criik has posted in 3 pages and yes I see the hypocracy in what I'm typing.

...impart from their religion of course.
What about left wing Muslims?

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.
On the contrary. When I support the creation of a Palestinian state, preferably on the '67 borders, I do so because it is the only way to ensure Israel's long term security in the Middle East. I may dislike what it does in the occupied territories, but that doesn't make me anti-Israeli, anti-semetic or any other vitriolic accusations you might want to make at me or anyone else who dislikes Israeli policy.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.
I don't hate the USA. I hate American politicians.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.
I assure you, I will defend any religion, now matter how absurd it seems to me.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.
There's no such thing as 'western culture', and any culture Western nations have is changing constantly, and has often changed through migration. Example: European migration to the Americas.

That's enough troll feeding for today.

This is why I came back to NS.

*tears up*

Wonder if he'll come back to pick up the pieces of his thesis?

Should I respond? hummm....well Muslim Extreamists are usually muslim (:o) while many left wigners are secular. OF coruse Muslims are usually extreamly right wing and very reigous...left wingers are LEFT WING...

Should I respond? hummm....well Muslim Extreamists are usually muslim (:o) while many left wigners are secular. OF coruse Muslims are usually extreamly right wing and very reigous...left wingers are LEFT WING...

You mean Muslim extremists are usually far right and strict in their religion? There are several left-wing guys in my school who I didn't know were Muslims until an RE class.

You mean Muslim extremists are usually far right and strict in their religion? There are several left-wing guys in my school who I didn't know were Muslims until an RE class.

Yeah, extream muslims, the ones who want Shara law and all that crap, are generally right wing.

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

I have no quarrel with the Israeli people, neither do most leftists. What our problem with Israel is is that the Israeli government has been oppressive to Palestinians, which has only served to continue this mindless bloodshed in the middle east.

Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

We don't have a problem with America or the American people. Once again, our quarrel is with the American government. As an American myself, I find that it is my patriotic duty to criticize the government when it abandons public opinion, destroys fundamental liberties, or begins a quest for empire.

Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

As a humanist, I greatly disapprove of religious intolerance. I despise the extremes that both Christians and Muslims, and all other religions take their faith. I also greatly disapprove of the massive dogma surrounding both competing religions.

A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

That's a straw man. No one on the left wants the western world to change into any particular culture. Most leftists rather seek to bridge the gaps between different cultures, and promote internationalist cooperation rather than petty nationalist competition.

No, seriously, was just asking, what's the difference? ;)
How is a raven like a writing desk?

Because it can produce a few notes, tho they are very flat; and it is never put with the wrong end in front!
*wins*

We have a forum donkey, and they don't.

Big on fundamentalist religion
Solve problems with violence
Easily offended and angered
Hate gays
Think censorship is a good thing

Muslim extremists or right-wing Americans?

Big on fundamentalist religion
Solve problems with violence
Easily offended and angered
Hate gays
Think censorship is a good thing

Muslim extremists or right-wing Americans?

Sounds like kissing-cousins to me. :p

...impart from their religion of course.

Most of them both hate Isreal and would like to see it wiped off the map.

Fine piece of research, where might I ask did you come up with this gem of investigative reporting? Oh, I forget, you specialize in assertions without proof. This is obviously a load of bullcrap. Oh, and the nation is ISRAEL, not Isreal.


Most of them both hate the USA and would prefer a world without it.

Odd that this left-winger is a retired Lieutenant Colonel and served his country (the USA) for 22+ years. You sir, are a bald faced liar. The fact that a right winger is claiming that only good Americans are right wingers irritates the shit out of me. Love of country knows no political bounds, pea-brain.


Most of them both hate Christianity and christians, but are always very quick to defend Islam.

You've hit the trifecta of stupidity, and the fact that "they" defend Islam is no different than defending any other religion from baseless assertions. You, in the meantime are comfortable with the tarred brush that you paint Muslims with. Too bad that this is real life and you have both good and bad people in any religion. You have extremist elements in all religions. Extreme Fundamentalist Christians are no better or no worse than Extreme Fundamentalist Muslims, oddly both seem to have the same goal in mind, destroying all who dissent with them either figuratively or literally.


A lot of them both seem to love the idea of changing the culture into a more Islamic one, and to allow all the muslims to flood into western nations.

You know nothing, son. Shut your damn fool mouth before you spout more tripe.

Bloody stupid trolls.

Big on fundamentalist religion
Solve problems with violence
Easily offended and angered
Hate gays
Think censorship is a good thing

Muslim extremists or right-wing American extremists?

I have corrected your comment. Not all right-wingers are like that, any more than all left-wingers are commies. It's just that extremists on both sides like to point out those on the other side and use that as an excuse to ridicule the entire faction.

Of course, as a half-halfer, I can ridicule everyone! Huzzah!

wrong just some state's were founded as a penal colony not all of Australia

an funny i don't see bombs going off here

Of course there's no bombs going off there. You think Muslim Extremists bomb themselves? :p

I have corrected your comment. Not all right-wingers are like that, any more than all left-wingers are commies. It's just that extremists on both sides like to point out those on the other side and use that as an excuse to ridicule the entire faction.

Of course, as a half-halfer, I can ridicule everyone! Huzzah!

You probably meant to change it to "extremists" rather than "extermists". Anyway, I wasn't actually trying to misinform, I was just being too lazy to think of the best way to phrase my point.

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You probably meant to change it to "extremists" rather than "extermists". Anyway, I wasn't actually trying to misinform, I was just being too lazy to think of the best way to phrase my point.

Indeed, I've corrected the mistake. But regardless of intent, according to the rules of the English language, you stated, indirectly, that all right-wing Americans hold those views. The road to hell, after all, is paved with good intentions.

Big on fundamentalist religion
Solve problems with violence
Easily offended and angered
Hate gays
Think censorship is a good thing

Muslim extremists or right-wing Americans?
Now that would be a worthwhile thread! (If you don't post it, I will!)

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What "Source" could you possibly want?Look at any forum replys by these people for a while and its pretty clear they believe those things.

What "Source" could you possibly want?Look at any forum replys by these people for a while and its pretty clear they believe those things.

If its so clear, then why don't you post some links to some posts made by leftists that demonstrates that they believe these things. The burden of proof is on Criik and you, not us.

Should I respond? hummm....well Muslim Extreamists are usually muslim (:o) while many left wigners are secular. OF coruse Muslims are usually extreamly right wing and very reigous...left wingers are LEFT WING...

Muslims are not rightwing.Most of them are Democrats.

What "Source" could you possibly want?Look at any forum replys by these people for a while and its pretty clear they believe those things.
http://www.constructionownerslawblog.com/burden_of_proof.jpg

Muslims are not rightwing.Most of them are Democrats.

Democrats are viewed as pretty right-wing from a European perspective...

Muslims are not rightwing.Most of them are Democrats.
In America, and only since 2004. Most Muslims in America previously voted Republican (possibly for social conservative views), but since the whole Iraq war thing they've turned away from them. It doesn't mean they're not still right-wing.

What "Source" could you possibly want?Look at any forum replys by these people for a while and its pretty clear they believe those things.
See below
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Criik made the claim, Criik provides the proof.

I truly mourn for the days of decent trolling. Young'un's these days don't even try to make decent threads...

Damn those Reality Trolling Shows and their manufactured celebrities!!

:D

Bazookas and tacos for everyone!

Better yet, Taco Bazookas! Or Bazookas made of Tacos!

Well, I think everything that I could say has been said already, on the other hand, I´d like to have the chance to call you a troll, therefore I´ll just sum everything up and then do so.
Many (and I´d say most) Leftists have a "live-and-let-live"-philosophy which want´s to guarantee religious tolerance and multiculturalism for everyone, like both cultural exchange and human rights and free love and that stuff. Muslim extremists don´t.
Most of today´s leftists are rather anti-authoritarian, Muslim extremists aren´t.
And yes, there may be some stupid Leftist terrorists, but they are idiots and never achieved any leftist goal (maybe killing people doesn´t convince others that you are actually trying to make their life better? Just a thought...). I´m a pacifist and violence sucks. And a rightwing terrorist in charge of the US government tells me that there´s to many terrrorist´s in the whole political spectrum.
And now all together:

TROLL!!!

Ah, feels good, doesn´t it?

(Oh, and I forgot the whole Israel thing: Well, Israel was a very Leftish place in the beginning, ever heard of the kibbutzim?
Concerning Israel today, well, I don´t understand how people could blow each other up for nothing else but a huge piece of sand. But I think I´m not religious enough to do.)

I just love how people like Criik make vast generalised terms without providing a single shred of proof and at the same time would be highly offended if anyone did the same in regards to Christians, right wingers, or pro-Israeli people.

And yes, I know he's a troll. I don't need to be told.

I just love how people like Criik make vast generalised terms without providing a single shred of proof and at the same time would be highly offended if anyone did the same in regards to Christians, right wingers, or pro-Israeli people.

And how he then commanded us to prove his supposed "point" for him.

Can I be a lance-corporal in the Crack Troll Feeding Squad?

Muslims are not rightwing.Most of them are Democrats.

The demo being discussed is Muslim Extremists. Extremists tend to go right wing. That's why Ron Silver and Gene Simmons, but Jewish exremists, are pro-Bush to the point of being delusional, even though most Jews are liberal and anti-Bush.

Even when it was pointed out to Gene Simmons that the Government of Iran endorsed Bush he responded to this person "and shouldn't we want the opposite of what our enemies want for us," because his pro-Bush brain had to restate the statement in his head as the total opposite of what it was just so that it would not disrupt his world view.

I just love how people like Criik make vast generalised terms without providing a single shred of proof and at the same time would be highly offended if anyone did the same in regards to Christians, right wingers, or pro-Israeli people.

And yes, I know he's a troll. I don't need to be told.

Well part of being a right winger is rejecting information that conflicts with your world view, or so grossly distorting it that it ends up meaning the opposite of what it started as (like in my above comment about Gene Simmons of KISS."

You can see it in the way that every time a left winger makes an observation of the Right, then a right winger will come back a week later and say that that's true of the left. Even things like "all liberals think alike because they can't think for themselves," when the problem is that there isn't really any such thing as theleft but rather a bunch of different groups of people who disagree with the right on one of very many issues.

Religious oppression, middle class support, labor rights, social welfare, medical care...

These do not all fit into one catagory and the people who believe in them remain aware of the distinction that they have from one another. If you are pro-union, then you are not necessarily pro-environment. Especially if your union is the coal miners union.

But for some reason, if you are anti-abortion then you are also anti-gay, pro-war, anti-estate tax, and anti-capital gains tax. Because right wingers, not left-wingers, are unable to think for themselves.

Give it a week. A right winger will say something to the effect of "liberals are weak willed and have a hive mind."

I can think of a few differences for myself:

not homophobic
not sexist
don't blow up shit
not religious
not anti-sex
not anti-alcohol or any type of fun
no sand in my butt

Besides that...

I am pro-Israel.

I do not approve of all the US government's actions, but I don't want it wiped off the planet.

I dislike religious extremism in any case. Even Buddhist extremism *nod*

I def don't want an "Islamic" culture, I'd prefer a secular one. Of course, not being an anti-immigration ass makes me want to "Islamize" t3h W3st, right?

basically the op is saying I dont like the left and I dont like islamic extremeists ergo they are one and the same

is that not technically autism?

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Dem dar widdow voices in hiza head.

*nods*

is that not technically autism?

Uh, no.