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it came up in another thread......the idea of suing God

assuming you could, what would you sue God for? can you prove your case?


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since you are all being so persnickety

assumptions

1 God is subject to your local laws
2 you can legally sue him
3 it's civil court so you represent yourself and He represents Himself
4 you have to prove your case with evidence just like in court
5 He will pay up without any fight if found guilty

Actually, the first question on my mind is HOW can one sue god? to what nations laws should he be subjected? How would one deliver the Subpena? How would it be insured the God actually appeared?

There was an episode of Touched by an Angel with this exact same theme, suing God.

Actually, the first question on my mind is HOW can one sue god? to what nations laws should he be subjected? How would one deliver the Subpena? How would it be insured the God actually appeared?
just assuming it could be done......

There was an episode of Touched by an Angel with this exact same theme, suing God.
really?

I think I might sue Zeus for abducting and raping Europa.

There are a few people through the ages that could have done it for wrongful death ..

Look at all the noah's flood victims

There is a flm that follows his idea. Its a comedy starring Billy Connely titled:

The Man Who Sued God (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268437/)

Assuming I believed in the big It.

No, because the bastard wouldn't pay up:p

My question is this - who represents God in court? And if you win, who has to pay? And if you sue to keep God from fucking around with your life, and He continues to do so, what option do you have? Arrest God for violating the terms of the lawsuit? What jury in the world would convict God...I mean, besides Berkeley. And just how do you sentence The Almighty? It's a bit hard to sentence God to a prison sentence, and if He is put into prison, who's to make sure He can't escape?

Sorry, but assuming that God is as all-powerful as we have made Him out to be, then that whole thing's a losing proposition.

On the other hand, if you sue God, and the Westboro folks have to pay the damages, I'm OK with that and I'd bet good money God would get a laugh from it too.

I can't answer that because I don't believe in a divine creator as a seperate entity from creation. I coulld go into what I believe but I also believe that you don't want to hear that right now. So in the spirit of the question I'll try to answer.

Given that god feature's in person quite often in the old testament I would sue him for mis-management and neglect. It's been at least a couple of thousand years since we've had a decent speaking burning bush (though the US president on a bonfire could concievably used as a medium (didnt say it was believable)) or a city destroyed in holy fire or people turned into pillars of salt. Given the current chaos of belief systems currently being employed by his creations and the bloody chaos that has ensued over which one is best I think it's high time that the Old Man himself came and layed the law down a bit more like he used to. It's like we're a forgotten lab experiment, carefully monitored and adjusted at first, then forgotten and left to play out in the fume cupboard while he goes off to do something more fun (like Universe V2.0)

I should restate that I don't believe in a divine creator or "god" in any classical sense, though I am a "spiritual" person.

really?

I never saw it myself, though I really wanted to, and an Angel appeared before the court in place of God, as his representive as both Lawyer, and his voice.

I predict..................I predict....................

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This thread is more than likely to turn into a spam-whoring-flame-trollbreeding-angry dickfest.

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Sorry, bub. But that's what I see..................

I predict..................I predict....................


This thread is more than likely to turn into a spam-whoring-flame-trollbreeding-angry dickfest.

Sorry, bub. But that's what I see..................

I am not a troll :mad: and this thread doesn't have to be bad, it could be good, people can have intelligent conversation.

id sue god for divorce on the gounds of desertion. he's never here, he never talks to me, no letters, not even a new prophet to send a message. id like to get with a newer more communicative god.

Given that god feature's in person quite often in the old testament I would sue him for mis-management and neglect. It's been at least a couple of thousand years since we've had a decent speaking burning bush (though the US president on a bonfire could concievably used as a medium (didnt say it was believable)) or a city destroyed in holy fire or people turned into pillars of salt. Given the current chaos of belief systems currently being employed by his creations and the bloody chaos that has ensued over which one is best I think it's high time that the Old Man himself came and layed the law down a bit more like he used to. It's like we're a forgotten lab experiment, carefully monitored and adjusted at first, then forgotten and left to play out in the fume cupboard while he goes off to do something more fun (like Universe V2.0)

Though I am quite religous (as we all know from another thread), I find this to be quite funny because its so true.

We need both the Wrathful God from OT, and the peaceful loving God from NT.

I am not a troll :mad: and this thread doesn't have to be bad, it could be good, people can have intelligent conversation.

I know you're not a troll, but while people are having intelligent discussion, some stupid flamern00b could see this as his big break.

Gotta watch out!

I know you're not a troll, but while people are having intelligent discussion, some stupid flamern00b could see this as his big break.

Gotta watch out!

that usually doesn't happen in my threads.

that usually doesn't happen in my threads.

You don't see the danger..............the flamern00b could be just waiting to break that fabulous record of yours!

I predict..................I predict....................

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This thread is more than likely to turn into a spam-whoring-flame-trollbreeding-angry dickfest.
Sorry, bub. But that's what I see..................

you always predict that.
i, on the other hand, because of how threads always fall of the topic, will just say this:
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you always predict that.
No I don't.

that usually doesn't happen in my threads.

People are too afraid of Smunkee to flame her threads.

I'd sue God for tresspassing and stalking. He is everywhere all the time so it shouldn't be too hard.

People are too afraid of Smunkee to flame her threads.



Trollers and flamern00bs usually ignore that and think they will win.

you always predict that.
i, on the other hand, because of how threads always fall of the topic, will just say this:
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See what i'm saying?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?

I would sue him because he's making me wear glasses/contacts and not giving me enough money for a simple operation. I would also sue him because my lung collapsed last year for which I had to lie in the hospital for three weeks. The ondly good out of it was all the drugs I got.

Assuming God is all powerful and did this...

If God could be sued, oh brother -- an infinite universe of class action suits based on the question, if God is benevolent and omnipotent, why does he let people suffer? Every flood, every war, every plague, every natural disaster, every carcinogen, etc, etc, etc. You thought corporations got hit hard with tobacco and asbestos suits? Ha! Wait till you see the motions against God.

It's his own fault, really. He was the one with that "no other gods before me" stipulation. If he had shared power with a pantheon, he'd have some coverage. But as it is, the buck definitely stops with him, and if he wants to be omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, he'd better be omni-wealthy, too.

3 it's civil court so you represent yourself and He represents Himself


He'd have to, where would he find a lawyer in heaven? :)

Personally I'd claim that His omniscience was in breach of my right to privacy; in compensation I demand that he creates me a pair of curtains too thick for him to see through.

an here i was thinking you were talking of the movie

oh an i'll take him for all hes got

He'd have to, where would he find a lawyer in heaven? :)

Personally I'd claim that His omniscience was in breach of my right to privacy; in compensation I demand that he creates me a pair of curtains too thick for him to see through.
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it came up in another thread......the idea of suing God

assuming you could, what would you sue God for? can you prove your case?


Edit:

since you are all being so persnickety

assumptions

1 God is subject to your local laws
2 you can legally sue him
3 it's civil court so you represent yourself and He represents Himself
4 you have to prove your case with evidence just like in court
5 He will pay up without any fight if found guilty

If I could Sue God*...

Hmmm... the only thing I can say is Criminal Negligence. while it's nice that he and his helpers go around making sure the Faithful are kept safe, there are still alot of dangers in our living areas that threaten the life and health of the faithful just by being there. pollutants (sure they are caused by his children, but no effort is made to clean them up.), Spoiled brats (either by perceived neglect or overindulgance, they run amok, causing harm to their brothers and sisters), Health issues (the sick and infected still play with those who are healthy, thus endangering them), Favoritism (tho not technically against the law, he does only talk to some people and only through whispers.)

I mean, it's fine that he wants us to grow on our own, but one mistake one makes can and does detrimentally affect others unless he steps in with a firm hand.

and what I would ask for is a more hands on approach to his parenting.

(*Of course, this is assuming I am inclined to sue God... :p )

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I wouldn't sue him, I want him done for crimes against humanity.

His massacre of the citizens of Sodom due to their homosexuality comes to mind which defies several articles of the UN resolution of human rights.


Article 2
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.


Broken- victims persecuted for alleged homosexuality and simply being in the city at the time.


Article 3
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.


Broken- victims deprived of life


Article 5
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment


Broken- being killed with fire and brimstone sounds pretty cruel to me


Article 10
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.


Broken- there was no jury, no trial, no assessment of guilt for the Sodomites. God pronounced them guilty.

These are just a few articles that he's broken, and only one example of his cruelty. I think it's fair to say that if God were real, he'd be a genocidal tyrant who should be put in jail for a very very very long time for being so scummy.

Lets see, assuming he was real, I take him to court for; child endangerment, genocide, unreasonable search and seizure w/o warrant, various environmental suits. The best part is, he'd have to borrow a lawyer from hell

Negligence. He allows stupid people to breed and keep breeding. These people are dangerous at worst or generally irritating at best.

It's kind of like when a dog bites someone and you sue the owner.

I wouldn't sue him, I want him done for crimes against humanity.

His massacre of the citizens of Sodom due to their homosexuality comes to mind which defies several articles of the UN resolution of human rights.
These are just a few articles that he's broken, and only one example of his cruelty. I think it's fair to say that if God were real, he'd be a genocidal tyrant who should be put in jail for a very very very long time for being so scummy.Those acts were committed before that treaty came into force. I think there are laws that you can't be prosceuted for action if it occured before a law banning that action came into force.

As for me, I probably wouldn't sue, but instead settle outside of court. Seeing as he's almighty god I believe his time is more valueable to him than money or material objects. I'd probably get a settlement on the grounds of impersonation or the like. Jehovah, God and Allah. I believe one of the three is impersonating the other two.

There is a flm that follows his idea. Its a comedy starring Billy Connely titled:

The Man Who Sued God (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268437/)
I loved the idea of sueing those who claim to be gods repersentitives on earth for an "act of god" as defined by law.:p

Those acts were committed before that treaty came into force. I think there are laws that you can't be prosceuted for action if it occured before a law banning that action came into force.

I seem to remember a guy in the UK who was convicted for marital rape a few years ago; his defence was that marital rape wasn't a crime at the time but he was still convicted. The law can be exasperatingly inconsistent at times. :)

I seem to remember a guy in the UK who was convicted for marital rape a few years ago; his defence was that marital rape wasn't a crime at the time but he was still convicted. The law can be exasperatingly inconsistent at times. :)Isn't that something to do with juries though... trial by a jury of your peers... can you imagine a jury of grumpy gods at the trial of the judeo-christian god for negligence or some such?

Negligence. He allows stupid people to breed and keep breeding. These people are dangerous at worst or generally irritating at best.

It's kind of like when a dog bites someone and you sue the owner.

Why am I reminded of Jeff Foxworthy's latest...

"Folks, Please have your relatives spayed and neutered..."

:D

Isn't that something to do with juries though... trial by a jury of your peers... can you imagine a jury of grumpy gods at the trial of the judeo-christian god for negligence or some such?

I'm not sure if it'd be possible to give the Abrahamic God a trial by jury, that would be an admission that He has 'peers'. :p

I would sue him for entering me into a contract without my prior knowledge or agreement. And I would take him to Judge Judy :)

Interesting question. How's this for irony, I would sue God under "Good Samaritan" laws for failing to assist people in distress. As someone who is apparently omnipotent, he or she is clearly able to render assistance to the billions of people in distress but chooses not to.

I would ask that the judge compel God to render assistance in the future to prevent needless deaths from starvation, disaster, war, disease, etc.

I'd sue God for the creation of idiots, and use as evidence the Jackass movies.

I'd sue God for the creation of idiots, and use as evidence the Jackass movies.

Beat ya to it... But I would be willing to go in on a class- action lawsuit with you.

Beat ya to it... But I would be willing to go in on a class- action lawsuit with you.

Sounds like a plan.

Really, even if it were possible to sue God, it would still be impossible, because due to his omnipotence and omniscience, he would either use the trial as a life lesson and get the case dropped on technicalities,

OR,

he would simply make it to where the Trial never happened, having gone back in time and altered the course of events to where you never sued him in the first place, or filed a class action lawsuit.

Good idea...
I did it and I won.

Do not ask me which god it was. I never ask.
I just said to the lad: "If you made the man as he is and if you're happy of what he is you're guilty of negligence."
We settled out of...
It's shy and tries to avoid the public and the press, like me.

I won the right to re-write the Scriptures...