NationStates Jolt Archive


Liechtenstein redraws Europe's map

Markreich
29-12-2006, 02:33
Yes, everyone's favorite liberally banking, lederhosen wearing, yodeling free state has gotten larger!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6215825.stm

Modern measuring methods proved that Liechtenstein's borders are 1.9km (1.2 miles) longer than previously thought.

Liechtenstein, population 35,000, now boasts 77.9km (48.3 miles) of borders, an area of 160 sq km (62 sq miles).
Bitchkitten
29-12-2006, 02:57
I don't know about favorite, but I wouldn't much mind if a giant sinkhole developed under Vatican City.
Marrakech II
29-12-2006, 03:00
Actually drove up to San Marino. Was a bit interesting, gambled a bit and ate some good Italian food. Same trip I went to the Vatican. Was utterly amazed at the place. So between sin and saints. I will take the Sin. San Marino wins with this guy.
Arrkendommer
29-12-2006, 03:00
Yea-uh! My favorite rogue alpine, banking-based state sticks it to tha man!
Zarakon
29-12-2006, 03:00
I don't know about favorite, but I wouldn't much mind if a giant sinkhole developed under Vatican City.

Best example ever is about Israel and Lebanon:

"No one is surprised when Israel attacks Lebanon. That's expected, so we aren't stepping in with troops. On the other hand, if Italy starts shelling the Vatican..."

Or something like that.
Iztatepopotla
29-12-2006, 03:01
Those landgrabbing Liechtensteinians, Liechtensteiners... erm, whatever. It's their dastardly plan to conquer Austria bit by bit. When they least expected Austrians will be left wondering what happened to all the land surrounding Vienna.
Arrkendommer
29-12-2006, 03:01
Actually drove up to San Marino. Was a bit interesting, gambled a bit and ate some good Italian food. Same trip I went to the Vatican. Was utterly amazed at the place. So between sin and saints. I will take the Sin. San Marino wins with this guy.

Doesn't it have a big castle on a mountain? Liechtenstien does.
Fassigen
29-12-2006, 03:03
Monaco. Because it's basically France and thus rules.
Bodies Without Organs
29-12-2006, 03:03
Liechtenstein, population 35,000, now boasts 77.9km (48.3 miles) of borders, an area of 160 sq km (62 sq miles).

Heck, if Liechtenstein was serious about this whole enterprise of having longer borders it would declare them to be fractals and have a boundary of infinite length.
The Pacifist Womble
29-12-2006, 03:04
I don't know about favorite, but I wouldn't much mind if a giant sinkhole developed under Vatican City.
Oh come on, the Vatican cannot be held responsible for the shit you get from Southern Baptists!
Fassigen
29-12-2006, 03:06
Oh come on, the Vatican cannot be held responsible for the shit you get from Southern Baptists!

But it can be held accountable for the shit one gets from the Vatican, and that ain't exactly a small pile.
Bitchkitten
29-12-2006, 03:07
Oh come on, the Vatican cannot be held responsible for the shit you get from Southern Baptists!

But they can be held responsible for telling people it's better to die of AIDS than to commit the sin of wearing a condom.
Marrakech II
29-12-2006, 03:10
Doesn't it have a big castle on a mountain? Liechtenstien does.

It's in the mountains and has a walled fortress. So I guess so.
Bodies Without Organs
29-12-2006, 03:13
Heck, if Liechtenstein was serious about this whole enterprise of having longer borders it would declare them to be fractals and have a boundary of infinite length.

Oh yeah - it could apply the same fractal policy of measuring its area too, obviously enough, and thus have a practically infinitely large area as well.
Kraetd
29-12-2006, 03:31
Heck, if Liechtenstein was serious about this whole enterprise of having longer borders it would declare them to be fractals and have a boundary of infinite length.

*wonders if you watched that lecture-thing the other day*

Who knows? Maybe we'll all be speaking... whatever is spoken in Liechenstein... in 20 years? As long as they take over France first :rolleyes:

They could join with Switzeland and then invade Austria, then France...
Markreich
29-12-2006, 03:31
Oh yeah - it could apply the same fractal policy of measuring its area too, obviously enough, and thus have a practically infinitely large area as well.

Which is a really neat idea, but since mathematical formulae aren't taxable, it'd really screw up the economy.
Markreich
29-12-2006, 03:33
Those landgrabbing Liechtensteinians, Liechtensteiners... erm, whatever. It's their dastardly plan to conquer Austria bit by bit. When they least expected Austrians will be left wondering what happened to all the land surrounding Vienna.

There's land around Vienna? :eek:

Nah... don't worry. The Austrians adjusted to losing Trieste, they'd get used to a Greater Liechtenstein. ;)
Bodies Without Organs
29-12-2006, 03:35
*wonders if you watched that lecture-thing the other day*

Not having possessed a TV ever in my life, or lived in the same domicile as one for the past four years the answer is probably a big fat 'no'. Which lecture? Are the Royal Society back on the subject of fractals again?
Lacadaemon
29-12-2006, 04:09
Heck, if Liechtenstein was serious about this whole enterprise of having longer borders it would declare them to be fractals and have a boundary of infinite length.

Wouldn't that depend upon whether or not the fractal was a degenerate curve? (It's been a long time).
Bodies Without Organs
29-12-2006, 04:20
Wouldn't that depend upon whether or not the fractal was a degenerate curve? (It's been a long time).

Hmmm. Not sure. It has been a long time at this end. However, if the state of Liechtenstein were shaped like a Koch Snowflake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_snowflake) then it would have an infinite boundary but finite area. As to whether that counts as a degenerate curve or not, I couldn't honestly tell you.
Neo Kervoskia
29-12-2006, 04:23
Sealand, bitches
Marrakech II
29-12-2006, 04:58
Damn that is an obscure refference. Don't think its still inhabitated. I actually have a book called "form your own country". It has Sealand in there as a base model of someone that has done it. Although if they did the same thing today they would be called terrorist you know. :)
The Potato Factory
29-12-2006, 05:23
Liehctenstein. Closest thing to an Alemannic state there is...
Bitchkitten
29-12-2006, 05:28
Damn that is an obscure refference. Don't think its still inhabitated. I actually have a book called "form your own country". It has Sealand in there as a base model of someone that has done it. Although if they did the same thing today they would be called terrorist you know. :)My roomates are obsessed with Sealand. They've probably read everything ever written about it. I keep trying to tell them it wouldn't be possible today. Doubtless many a loophole has been closed.
Lacadaemon
29-12-2006, 05:42
Hmmm. Not sure. It has been a long time at this end. However, if the state of Liechtenstein were shaped like a Koch Snowflake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_snowflake) then it would have an infinite boundary but finite area. As to whether that counts as a degenerate curve or not, I couldn't honestly tell you.

Yah. That's the dealio. Now I look at the wiki, I am vaguely aware I really have no idea what I am banging on about, and probably should have drunk less and avoided weed during college.
Extreme Ironing
29-12-2006, 11:48
Liechtenstein has the best name clearly, and obviously that means it is a better country.
Nationalian
29-12-2006, 12:24
I like Liechstenstein and San Marino because it's always a pleasure to play against them in the qualifications for the World or European cup in soccer. Three easy points.
Rejistania
29-12-2006, 12:33
England once had it really difficult against Liechtenstein and luckily won!
PedroTheDonkey
29-12-2006, 12:34
I hereby officially cheer for Liechtenstein. Go them.
Northern Borders
29-12-2006, 12:39
Is it me, or in that movie Knights Tale, the name of the created country of Hedger wasnt Liechtenstein? Looks like the country really exists LOL.

Anyway, they are getting dangerous and greedy. 1,6 km of new borders? Next they will be claiming the entire continent.
PedroTheDonkey
29-12-2006, 12:42
Is it me, or in that movie Knights Tale, the name of the created country of Hedger wasnt Liechtenstein? Looks like the country really exists LOL.

Anyway, they are getting dangerous and greedy. 1,6 km of new borders? Next they will be claiming the entire continent.

No, he was Alric VonLiechtenstein of Gilderland.

All spellings aproximated.:)
Mr Gigglesworth
29-12-2006, 12:43
Size of 2 postage stamps aye?
Arrrrrrrgh.
Xeniph
29-12-2006, 12:55
Sealand, bitches

Yay!!
PedroTheDonkey
29-12-2006, 12:58
Arrrrrrrgh.

:confused:
Peisandros
29-12-2006, 13:24
Vatican City, definitely. :fluffle:
Thomish Kingdom
29-12-2006, 16:45
Liechtenstein rocks!
Swilatia
29-12-2006, 16:51
I don't know about favorite, but I wouldn't much mind if a giant sinkhole developed under Vatican City.

same here. in fact, I hope that would happen.
Rejistania
29-12-2006, 16:57
Tuvalu! I like that nation, I mean, it is named "8 islands" but conists of 9 :)
Swilatia
29-12-2006, 17:01
Tuvalu! I like that nation, I mean, it is named "8 islands" but conists of 9 :)

but people are saying that due to global warming it may eventually consist of 0. but i doubt that global warming will continue forever, because it is not caused by CO2, damnit!
Rejistania
29-12-2006, 17:09
That would be bad for all companies owning .tv domains...
Swilatia
29-12-2006, 17:12
That would be bad for all companies owning .tv domains...

indeed, but maybe then it will show them that the domain was not meant for television-related stuff.
Letila
29-12-2006, 17:22
I don't know about favorite, but I wouldn't much mind if a giant sinkhole developed under Vatican City.

Quoted for truth. I'm no fan of them either.
Crossman
29-12-2006, 18:26
Liechtenstein.

Because I aspire to one day go there and declare myself their new supreme leader. Under my leadership Liechtenstein will grow to become a military juggernaut!

All will bow before the mighty power of Liechtenstein!!!
Wallonochia
29-12-2006, 19:05
My roomates are obsessed with Sealand. They've probably read everything ever written about it. I keep trying to tell them it wouldn't be possible today. Doubtless many a loophole has been closed.

I hope your roommates have seen these

http://www.redsave.com/index.asp?pageType=3&pid=2091&catId=21&track=SealandShopLink
Daistallia 2104
29-12-2006, 19:50
My faves would either be Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.org/), Hutt River Province (http://www.hutt-river-province.com/), or the Conch Republic.
Daistallia 2104
29-12-2006, 20:00
Damn that is an obscure refference. Don't think its still inhabitated. I actually have a book called "form your own country". It has Sealand in there as a base model of someone that has done it. Although if they did the same thing today they would be called terrorist you know. :)

Not so obscure, especially on the internet, and most especially here on NSG. ;)

There was a fire there earlier this year that caused most of the population to be evacuated, but it is certainly inhabited.

http://www.sealandgov.org/notices/pn03106.html
Harlesburg
30-12-2006, 02:26
My faves would either be Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.org/), Hutt River Province (http://www.hutt-river-province.com/), or the Conch Republic.
Hutt River?
ZOMG i live near a Hutt River.
*hides*
Daistallia 2104
30-12-2006, 04:49
Hutt River?
ZOMG i live near a Hutt River.
*hides*

Ah Fancy that.
I take it you live close to the NZ Hutt River, and not the one in Western Australia? ;)

Also, it appears that the name was officialy changed by HRH Prince Leonard. The Hutt River Province is now officially the "Principality of Hutt River".
Infinite Revolution
30-12-2006, 04:51
if isle of man is gunna be counted in the 'other' option as a country then i vote Jersey. yay! for potatoes and cows and offshore banking!
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 05:44
What about Andorra?
New Albor
30-12-2006, 05:49
Where is the love for Luxembourg?... just because it used to be part of the Duchy of Burgundy doesn't mean it should be ignored.
Maineiacs
30-12-2006, 06:02
Liechtenstein just needed a little lebensraum.
New Albor
30-12-2006, 06:14
I'd also like to see Sarrland again, just because it's a cool name, but they had their day thanks to the League of Nations... still a state in Germany if memory serves.
Sel Appa
30-12-2006, 06:24
I've recently been pondering the idea of startign a coup in Monaco.
Markreich
30-12-2006, 12:19
Where is the love for Luxembourg?... just because it used to be part of the Duchy of Burgundy doesn't mean it should be ignored.

Too large for this discussion... Luxembourg is 2,586 sq km, vs. 160 sq km for Liechtenstein: that's more than 16 Liechtensteins!

That's about the same as comparing France to Switzerland.
Markreich
30-12-2006, 12:26
What about Andorra?

Andorra is actually not that small. At 3 Liechtensteins, it's also larger than Malta, Palau and quite a few other "micro-states".
Yootopia
30-12-2006, 12:52
I'd also like to see Sarrland again, just because it's a cool name, but they had their day thanks to the League of Nations... still a state in Germany if memory serves.
The Saarland is indeed still a part of Germany, it's one of the Bundesländer.
Dunlaoire
30-12-2006, 13:00
But they can be held responsible for telling people it's better to die of AIDS than to commit the sin of wearing a condom.

Far be it from me to defend Catholicism
but they don't tell people it's better to die of aids than to commit the sin
of wearing a condom.

They rather ridiculously do believe it is wrong to wear a condom,
for rather tortured and moronic reasons.

But what they tell people they should do is NOT have sex except within marriage.

Now you and I both know that is not going to happen but the people
who are having sex outside of marriage in defiance of the church are
quite capable of further defying the church and using condoms.

Where the Catholic church manages to make condoms difficult or even
illegal to get hold of then they sure do bear responsibility for the
spread of STD's but they have never said you should get aids rather than
wear a condom. They've said don't have sex outside of 1 fixed and permanent
relationship which if it happened and pigs flew would prevent the spread
of aids in a heartbeat. Whereas condoms do in fact have a failure rate
even when well made and used properly.

Please please attack the catholic church for the right reasons.
New Albor
30-12-2006, 21:46
Too large for this discussion... Luxembourg is 2,586 sq km, vs. 160 sq km for Liechtenstein: that's more than 16 Liechtensteins!

That's about the same as comparing France to Switzerland.

Blast... well, that's it.. I am for reviving the Duchy of Burgundy, then we can remove parts of France and Belgium (actually almost all of Belgium and a good chunk of Eastern France) I mean, who wouldn't want that? Um, except for Belgians and French... :)

It's funny, I live in a Metropolis (Dallas /Fort-Worth) that is 10 times the size of Luxembourg ...so about 145 Liechensteins (23,287sq km). That's suburban sprawl for you.
Harlesburg
01-01-2007, 22:45
Ah Fancy that.
I take it you live close to the NZ Hutt River, and not the one in Western Australia? ;)

Also, it appears that the name was officialy changed by HRH Prince Leonard. The Hutt River Province is now officially the "Principality of Hutt River".
Strangley enough i do.;)
Harlesburg
01-01-2007, 22:46
Andorra is actually not that small. At 3 Liechtensteins, it's also larger than Malta, Palau and quite a few other "micro-states".
Not only that but their national Rugby team is an up and coming threat that D grade International teams should be wary of.