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Thousands More Dead In Continuing Iraq Victory

Rooseveldt
28-12-2006, 19:49
We are t3h WIN! :D


America marks three and a half years of winning in Iraq, and nearly 3,000 victory deaths
December 18, 2006 | Issue 42•51
Statistics released by the Department Of Defense estimated that 2,937 U.S. troops and over 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the ongoing American military victory in Iraq.

"Victory deaths are at a higher level than we had anticipated, yes," Gen. George Casey, Jr. said at a press conference shortly after the figures were released. "But one of the crucial lessons of our Vietnam experience is that a victory, in order to remain victorious, can't be abandoned halfway through, or in the case of Iraq, one-eighth of the way through."

"And significantly more troops may be required if we are to continue to enjoy that victory, especially if this turns into an all-out civil war," Casey added, stressing that it was still too early to deem the victory a "quagmire."

Debate continues over whether U.S. troops should be withdrawn from the Iraqi theater of victory. While some in Congress argue that a withdrawal would force Iraqi leadership to enforce the victory on their own, many military experts say that Iraqi troops remain insufficiently trained and unprepared to handle the daily perils of victory.

President Bush has consistently warned that if we hand over victory to local forces right away, there's a risk that victory may worsen, as Iraqis won't be able to contend with the guerrilla attacks and improvised explosive devices that claim the lives of dozens of the victorious every day.

"We're paying dearly in the form of American lives," Bush said, "but, plainly speaking, that's just victory for you."

Casey's remarks came nearly two weeks after some 200 Iraqi Shi'ites died in a series of car bombs in Baghdad's Sadr City, the largest single victory-related death toll since the U.S. won the Iraq War in 2003.

In an address to the nation Dec. 10, President Bush predicted that, if efforts continue as they have in Iraq, "This could become America's longest victory ever," Bush said.

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CthulhuFhtagn
28-12-2006, 19:53
Dude. Onion.
Kyronea
28-12-2006, 20:12
Dude. Onion.

...I think he knows that, hence the obviously sarcastic smilie.
CthulhuFhtagn
28-12-2006, 20:13
...I think he knows that, hence the obviously sarcastic smilie.

It was preemptive.
Zarakon
28-12-2006, 20:28
We're number one! We're number one!

:D
The Madchesterlands
28-12-2006, 21:09
Go Nicolas Chauvin!
Novemberstan
28-12-2006, 21:12
If Iraq "could become America's longest victory ever", that means more Americans would die - according to that article! That's wrong.
The Infinite Dunes
28-12-2006, 21:14
Pfft, they just died from overexcitement that they won the war. What's all this talk of them being killed in action? It's the militaries fault really. They say joining the military builds character. These soldiers had so much character that it burst out from underneath their skulls.
Nodinia
28-12-2006, 22:03
Pfft, they just died from overexcitement that they won the war. What's all this talk of them being killed in action? It's the militaries fault really. They say joining the military builds character. These soldiers had so much character that it burst out from underneath their skulls.


Roasted to death with the warmth from the welcome, perhaps?
Dunlaoire
28-12-2006, 22:35
Roasted to death with the warmth from the welcome, perhaps?

To be fair the president has explained
I think we are welcomed. But it was not a peaceful welcome."
GWB —Philadelphia, Dec. 12, 2005, on the reception of American forces in Iraq
Rooseveldt
29-12-2006, 02:34
Dude. Onion.


noticed that didjya?


I tried to make sure you could catch that at the end.
I enjoyed reading it almost as much as I enjoyed the Sept 12, 2001 headline:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

I was pretty amazed that they could find some humor so quickly, and so acceptably. It was pretty much what everyone in the country said in the first seconds of seeing the Sept 11 attacks. It didn't make fun of the attack, it made fun of our common pain in a sadly funny way.
CthulhuFhtagn
29-12-2006, 02:36
If Iraq "could become America's longest victory ever", that means more Americans would die - according to that article! That's wrong.

Psst. Look at the second post in the thread.
United Chicken Kleptos
29-12-2006, 02:53
Mission accomplished even more!!
http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/codpiece.jpg
Zarakon
29-12-2006, 02:56
Mission accomplished even more!!
http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/codpiece.jpg

Oh my god! A homosexual in the military!!! WHERE IS THAT GUY'S OTHER HAND? I'LL TELL YOU WHERE HIS OTHER HAND IS, IT'S FEELING UP THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!
Northern Borders
29-12-2006, 03:11
3000 doesnt seem like a lot of people for me.

Compared to the number of iraq civilians killed...
Ashlyynn
29-12-2006, 03:25
More then 3000 people are murdered in our country every year.....as compared to a just over 3000 deaths in the war in over 3 1/2 years .... seems like it is more dangerous to just live the normal life here at home. At least while I was in Iraq I was allowed to defend myself when someone tried to kill me. And heck despite the fine coverage by the news about what goes on in Iraq, I had a whole lot of civilians thanking me for what I was doing over there and in providing them help. But hey that is just my thoughts and view on it.
Arthais101
29-12-2006, 03:28
More then 3000 people are murdered in our country every year.....as compared to a just over 3000 deaths in the war in over 3 1/2 years .... seems like it is more dangerous to just live the normal life here at home.

There are 300 MILLION people in america right now, so unless we got about...86 million people stationed in iraq, it's kinda more dangerous.


But hey that is just my thoughts and view on it.

Learn how statistics and relative values work. Then think. Do yourself a favor and don't reverse that order.
PedroTheDonkey
29-12-2006, 03:30
....as compared to a just over 3000 deaths in the war in over 3 1/2 years...

3000 deaths in the war? No. 3000 American military deaths in the war. There are other people dieing in this war. Some deservingly (if such a thing can be said of a violent death), but many for no other reason than being in the wrong place. 3000 deaths? No.
Muravyets
29-12-2006, 04:49
3000 doesnt seem like a lot of people for me.

Compared to the number of iraq civilians killed...
Don't you mean the number of Iraq civilians liberated as the never-ending result of our continuing victory?
Beddgelert
29-12-2006, 04:55
Well, Saddam's not doing so well since his arrest, but I think that Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf is probably in his element right about now, eh?

There is no civil war in Iraq! We will liberate them with our shoes!
CanuckHeaven
29-12-2006, 05:48
Mission accomplished even more!!
http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/codpiece.jpg

Oh my god! A homosexual in the military!!! WHERE IS THAT GUY'S OTHER HAND? I'LL TELL YOU WHERE HIS OTHER HAND IS, IT'S FEELING UP THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!
You got it all wrong. The guy is standing behind Bush because Bush shit himself flying in that jet. :p