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Edwards is an interesting candidite. I know my Dad seems to think he will be the Democratic nominee (I say fat chance.)

What do you people think? Is Edwards Presidential material or just a southern pretty boy with nothing between his ears. Discuss...

I don't trust him at all. He's a con man. Nobody can really talk to the dead, he's just cold reading. I think he'd make a lousy president.

I don't trust him at all. He's a con man. Nobody can really talk to the dead, he's just cold reading. I think he'd make a lousy president.

Remember when someone (Commando, maybe?) seriously confused the two? That was funny.

Remember when someone (Commando, maybe?) seriously confused the two? That was funny.

He seriously got the two confused? Damn, I missed that thread.

He seriously got the two confused? Damn, I missed that thread.

Might have been someone else, but I remember it clearly. Once it was pointed out, the person stopped posting in that thread.

Ah, the cute one.

He'd have my, by the electoral college overridable, sham-vote for that reason only.

/At least he's not a republican, or I'd feel a tinge of regret for voting for him on cuteness, which I probably would do anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHg_n69t3HU

He never struck me as particularly capable as a vice presidential candidate, but that might have had something to do with the fact that he couldn't answer a single question without giving the opinion as Kerry's, rather than his own. Maybe he'll surprise me.

I refuse to vote for someone who doesn't speak Eesperanto.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHg_n69t3HU

"Then you're a stupid douche!"

So true.

im glad he's running. its 2 years out. the thought that hillary clinton has it sewn up is ridiculous.

Cool, I like him

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Edwards is an interesting candidite. I know my Dad seems to think he will be the Democratic nominee (I say fat chance.)

What do you people think? Is Edwards Presidential material or just a southern pretty boy with nothing between his ears. Discuss...

He's a southern pretty boy with a con man smile. Screw him. It's all obout Obama.

He's a southern pretty boy with a con man smile. Screw him. It's all obout Obama.

What does Obama stand for? I don't think I've ever heard him speak on the issues facing America.

What does Obama stand for? I don't think I've ever heard him speak on the issues facing America.

He has a solid head on his shoulders when it comes to an energy policy, as he's stated many times, which is enough to sell him to me. Now if only he wasn't a Democrat...I'd love it if he switched his party affiliation or ran as an Independent...he'd make it, too, I betcha.

What does Obama stand for? I don't think I've ever heard him speak on the issues facing America.

I can't find anything, I have been looking for months, apparently he is brown though and that will probably get him a few votes.

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Edwards is an interesting candidite. I know my Dad seems to think he will be the Democratic nominee (I say fat chance.)

What do you people think? Is Edwards Presidential material or just a southern pretty boy with nothing between his ears. Discuss...
Edwards is smart and highly competent politically. While in office as a Senator, he managed to visit every single county in the state. Which doesn't happen very often in NC, let me tell you... we've got some pretty ignorable counties.

And while he was a Senator, he did more in one term than most Senators seem to be able to do in three. He's a sharp one.

However, he has been sitting around out of office since his last presidential run. He's sharp, but he'll be running purely on his own merits.

In the current political environment, it's possible that he could even carry his home state, but I'm not sure he's a very strong candidate.

I have no idea how he lost the primary's to Kerry the last time. Edwards seemed like a slam dunk, especially next to Frankenstein's monster. Leave it to the Democrats to nominate the only person guaranteed not to beat Bush.

Perfect '08 ballot IMHO:
Republican: Giuliani/ McCain
Democrat: Edwards/ Not Hilary

I don't want to see Edwards again. I was underwhelmed by his performance in 2004, and I'm not going to see a candidate nominated who can't run a competant campaign.

Dean, Obama, or Gore. Any of them is a capable candidate who could gain the whitehouse. Policy-wise, all three are moderate Dems with a foward thinking, non-populist view.

Edwards is smart and highly competent politically. While in office as a Senator, he managed to visit every single county in the state. Which doesn't happen very often in NC, let me tell you... we've got some pretty ignorable counties.

So? Russ Feingold does that every year IIRCE, and that's in Wisconson, a significantly larger state than North Carolina. Either way, it's not an indicator of political wiles.

I don't want to see Edwards again. I was underwhelmed by his performance in 2004, and I'm not going to see a candidate nominated who can't run a competant campaign.

Dean, Obama, or Gore. Any of them is a capable candidate who could gain the whitehouse. Policy-wise, all three are moderate Dems with a foward thinking, non-populist view.

I'd love to see Dean win, but I don't think he can. The "liberal" media did a good job painting him as some kind of loose cannon.

I'd love to see Dean win, but I don't think he can. The "liberal" media did a good job painting him as some kind of loose cannon.

Which is, realistically speaking, ironic because, prior to the sensationalization of one excited speach, Dean was the candidate who was most likely to win the White House.

So? Russ Feingold does that every year IIRCE, and that's in Wisconson, a significantly larger state than North Carolina. Either way, it's not an indicator of political wiles.
Actually, it isn't "much larger." It's barely larger in terms of area, much smaller in terms of population, and has far fewer counties with a much more uniform polity. Wisconsin doesn't have the sort of geographic, cultural, or economic variation that NC does.

It's hard to keep tabs on all of NC. As far as being a political player...

... very few rookie senators attract national attention. Edwards did so entirely through sheer dint of effort within the political arena. While they were both in office, Helms looked lazy in the political machinery next to Edwards, and Helms' political machine was famous for a reason.

So far neither one of our replacements (Burr and Dole) have done as much combined as Edwards in his first two years in office... and Edwards was, at the time, in the minority party. And he did that while keeping tabs on the entire state of NC - again, better than Burr and Dole do combined currently.

Now if only he wasn't a Democrat...I'd love it if he switched his party affiliation
How is that of any significance?

If he helps prevent Hilary, fine. Actually, I think he'd be good.

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Edwards is an interesting candidite. I know my Dad seems to think he will be the Democratic nominee (I say fat chance.)

What do you people think? Is Edwards Presidential material or just a southern pretty boy with nothing between his ears. Discuss...

Probably been done, and may not be applicable, but: "Since when have those two been mutually exclusive":)

Edwards is smart and has a longer, stronger political background than people outside his state realize. I think that baby face makes a lot of people not take him seriously -- think he's younger than he is -- but he was a shark of a lawyer and an effective pol. He's got the connections and I think he's got the chops. And he hasn't just been lounging about since 2004. I hear he's been traveling nationally and internationally, promoting his political agenda and networking with foreign officials, just in case he gets the nomination.

All that makes me think he CAN be president. Whether he'd be a good president or not is another matter. But I'd vote for him, no problem.

I have no idea how he lost the primary's to Kerry the last time. Edwards seemed like a slam dunk, especially next to Frankenstein's monster. Leave it to the Democrats to nominate the only person guaranteed not to beat Bush.

Perfect '08 ballot IMHO:
Republican: Giuliani/ McCain
Democrat: Edwards/ Not Hilary

How about:
Democrat: Edwards/Obama (inspiring) or Edwards/Clark (competent) or Edwards/Dean (aggressive-progressive)?

Anyone but Hillary '08!!!

How is that of any significance?

Because I really don't like the Democrats or the Republicans and I especially don't like the two-party dominance. Look up some of my posts on the subject for more information.

Out of curiosity, who are the other announced candidates so far? I know of Vilsack and Edwards, but who else?

If Hillary wins the Primary, thats it. No way in hell she could win over the moderates and the Independants of this nation.

If Edwards is a deciding factor in preventing that, then great!

But overall, Obama for President! Edwards for Vice President!

If Hillary wins the Primary, thats it. No way in hell she could win over the moderates and the Independants of this nation.

If Edwards is a deciding factor in preventing that, then great!

But overall, Obama for President! Edwards for Vice President!


Not Obama. This is a bad time to push the bar. And frankly, no one's going to vote for a black guy with a name of "Iraq Hussein Osama"

If Hillary wins the Primary, thats it. No way in hell she could win over the moderates and the Independants of this nation.

If Edwards is a deciding factor in preventing that, then great!

But overall, Obama for President! Edwards for Vice President!

...

Ugh, no. Could we please have someone at least vaguely respectable for VP candidate? Say...Bill Ritter?

Because I really don't like the Democrats or the Republicans and I especially don't like the two-party dominance. Look up some of my posts on the subject for more information.

Out of curiosity, who are the other announced candidates so far? I know of Vilsack and Edwards, but who else?
Official candidates who have filed with the FEC for the Democratic Party:

* Former Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska (Campaign Site)
* Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio (Campaign Site)[5]
* Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa (Campaign Site)
* Former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina (One America Committee)[6]
Official candidates who have filed with the FEC for the Republican Party:

* John H. Cox of Illinois (Campaign Site)
* Michael Charles Smith of Oregon (Campaign Site)
Official candidates who have filed with the FEC for the Libertarian Party:

* Steve Kubby of California (Campaign Site)
* George Phillies of Massachusetts (Campaign Site)

A few others will probably file soon. It's not even 2007 yet, folks - the real race doesn't start until 2008.

Probably half of the ones expressing interest - at least - will drop out before primaries even start.

McCain - Giuliani 08!

McCain - Giuliani 08!

Oh man, and I just ate too... Thanks Ruffy!

McCain - Giuliani 08!

McCain - Lucifer08

Oh man, and I just ate too... Thanks Ruffy!
*grabs a mop*

McCain - Lucifer08

FOR SHAME!

FOR SHAME!

You're right. Lucifer would never bismirch his name with such a running mate.

You're right. Lucifer would never bismirch his name with such a running mate.

You damn liberals.

You damn liberals.

No, God damns liberals. Zarakon probably just waves lighters at them or something.

He's got a snowballs chance in hell.

No, God damns liberals. Zarakon probably just waves lighters at them or something.

Again, for shame.

You know, these kids today like to think being a liberal is cool. What we need is a Pat Robertson in the White House.

No, God damns liberals. Zarakon probably just waves lighters at them or something.

But...I AM God!

Seriously, I just point lighters at them and spray deoderant through the flame... :D

Yeah, I'm a liberal. But I like McCain more than I like Hillary.

Again, for shame.

You know, these kids today like to think being a liberal is cool. What we need is a Pat Robertson in the White House.

Been there, done that. Worst. President. Ever.*


*Excluding President Saddam Hussein, President Mugabe, and other Non-American Presidents who may or may not have been tyranical dictators, depending on which corrupt official you bribed to give you an answer.

Been there, done that. Worst. President. Ever.*


*Excluding President Saddam Hussein, President Mugabe, and other Non-American Presidents who may or may not have been tyranical dictators, depending on which corrupt official you bribed to give you an answer.

orly?

orly?

yarly.

So, I'm assuming that you got your snow, since you've clearly taken up idol wor- er.. respecting the lord through worship of his prophet, Pastor Pat Robertson?

John Edwards isn't going to win. I don't know why someone doesn't tell him that people just aren't going to vote for him. Well, if I see him around campus I'll tell the guy.

Maybe if he wanted to be Obama's VP... maybe. But people see him as a con-man, as an ambulance chaser, and as an ameteur. He's not getting to the White House alone.

yarly.

So, I'm assuming that you got your snow, since you've clearly taken up idol wor- er.. respecting the lord through worship of his prophet, Pastor Pat Robertson?

notrly :(

notrly :(

Have you tried sacrificing a witch to God?

John Edwards seems good and all, but...

...He has to have the most annoying accent ever.

Have you tried sacrificing a witch to God?

Yes, but I need her constant supply of DNA. So that's out. :/

McCain - Giuliani 08!

I'd like to see McCain get the Republican nomination, but seriously, Giuliani??? Mr. Censor Broadway?

So? Russ Feingold does that every year IIRCE, and that's in Wisconson, a significantly larger state than North Carolina. Either way, it's not an indicator of political wiles.

is feingold going to run? i was in wisconsin the first time he ran for national office and got the nomination because the 2 big boys destroyed themselves with negative ads leaving him with his platform written in paint on his garage door the winner.

if it were my choice it would be feingold/richardson or richardson/feingold

richardson being bill richardson, governor of new mexico, former rep, former ambassador to the UN, former sec. of energy.

we desperatley need men in the office who are as clean as feingold and as diplomatically skilled as richardson.

I'd like to see McCain get the Republican nomination, but seriously, Giuliani??? Mr. Censor Broadway?
Giuliani manages somehow to be a disaster from both the left and right perspectives. He's pro-choice, pro-gay rights, so the rightwing think he's baby-eating, butt-humping, wife-divorcing liberal. He's an authoritarian, censoring, il Duce style control-freak, so the leftwing think he's just Bush-lite.

I give Giuliani props for his performance on/after 9/11. He stepped up and handled that emergency the right way. He's a good man in an emergency. But you can't run a whole country on emergency status all the time, and before 9/11, his record as mayor was not that rosy. He seemed always to be looking for or making up crises to manage, even where there were none. That's not good.

I think Giuliani is kind of like Dean -- a candidate who looks good on paper, but in practice, he doesn't always produce such great results -- Giuliani as mayor of NY, or Dean as governor of Vermont.

John Edwards seems good and all, but...

...He has to have the most annoying accent ever.

That's in the ear of the beholder, as it were. I try to listen to the candidates' words more than their accents.

Yeah. I'd vote for him, I like him, he would have one if him and Kerry switched places last year. But if Obama is running I am going to vote for him and workin his campaign.