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Saddam encourages peace in letter

United Chicken Kleptos
28-12-2006, 05:44
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061228/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Saddam Hussein urged Iraqis to embrace "brotherly coexistence" and not to hate U.S.-led foreign troops in a goodbye letter posted on a Web site Wednesday, a day after Iraq's highest court upheld his death sentence and ordered him hanged within 30 days.

A top government official, meanwhile, said Saddam's execution could proceed without the approval of Iraq's president, meaning there were no more legal obstacles to sending the deposed dictator to the gallows.

One of Saddam's attorneys, Issam Ghazzawi, confirmed to The Associated Press in Jordan that the Internet letter was authentic, saying it was written by Saddam on Nov. 5 — the day he was convicted by an Iraqi tribunal for ordering the 1982 killings of 148 Shiite Muslims in Dujail.

"I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking," said the letter, which was written in Arabic and translated by the AP.

"I also call on you not to hate the people of the other countries that attacked us," it added, referring to the invasion that toppled his regime nearly four years ago.

Against the backdrop of sectarian killings that have dragged Sunni Arabs and Shiite Muslims into civil warfare over the past year, Saddam urged his countrymen to "remember that God has enabled you to become an example of love, forgiveness and brotherly coexistence."

But he also voiced support for the Sunni Arab-dominated insurgency, saying: "Long live jihad and the mujahedeen." He urged Iraqis to be patient and rely on God's help in fighting "against the unjust nations."

Saddam said he was giving his life for his country as part of that struggle. "Here, I offer my soul to God as a sacrifice, and if he wants, he will send it to heaven with the martyrs," he said.

Despite his calls for conciliation among Iraqis, Saddam's legacy is brutal. He put suspected foes to death without trial, oppressed Kurds and Shiites, waged war on Iran and twice fought U.S.-led armies. He left an impoverished nation now gripped by sectarian bloodshed and an insurgency against the U.S. presence.

Violence struck Baghdad again Wednesday, with a car bomb killing eight civilians and wounding 10 near an Iraqi army checkpoint. Four more civilians died in a mortar attack in a Shiite neighborhood, and police found the bodies of 51 apparent victims of sectarian killings.

Questions had arisen about whether the appeals court's ruling needed to be approved by the Iraqi presidency, which customarily signs off on death sentences.

Busho Ibrahim, deputy justice minister, said it wasn't necessary. "According to the legal provisions of the court, there is no need for the approval of the presidency," he said.

A spokesman for President Jalal Talabani acknowledged the legal argument that the execution could go ahead without ratification by the president, who has expressed opposition to the death penalty.

"Some people believe there is no need for his approval," spokesman Hiwa Osman said. "We still have to hear from the court as to how the procedure can be carried out."

An official from Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Dawa Party, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media, said that "the government wants Saddam executed as soon as possible."

Another official close to al-Maliki, who also refused to be quoted by name, said the execution would take place before the end of the 30-day period.

Saddam will remain in a U.S. military prison near the airport, Camp Cropper, until the day of the execution, at which point he will be handed over to Iraqi authorities, the official said.

Ghazzawi, the defense lawyer, said the letter by Saddam was released Tuesday and published Wednesday on the Web site of Saddam's former Baath Party.

The deposed leader said he was writing the letter because his lawyers had told him the Iraqi High Tribunal that tried his case would give him an opportunity to say a final word.

"But that court and its chief judge did not give us the chance to say a word, and issued its verdict without explanation and read out the sentence — dictated by the invaders — without presenting the evidence," Saddam wrote.

"Dear faithful people," he added, "I say goodbye to you, but I will be with the merciful God who helps those who take refuge in him and who will never disappoint any honest believer."

Some Saddam loyalists threatened to retaliate if he is executed, warning in a posting on the same Web site that they would target U.S. interests.

"The Baath and the resistance are determined to retaliate, with all means and everywhere, to harm America and its interests if it commits this crime," the statement said, referring to Baath fighters as "the resistance."

The Baath Party was disbanded after U.S.-led forces overthrew Saddam in 2003. The Web site is believed to be run from Yemen, where a number of exiled members of the party are based.

The appeals court also affirmed death sentences for two of Saddam's co-defendants, including his half brother. It ruled life imprisonment for a third was too lenient and demanded the lower court also sentence him to death.

Some Iraqis said Saddam should be hanged immediately, but others feared Iraq's bloodletting could escalate if the former dictator is executed at a time when sectarian attacks are already on the rise.

"Executing him now is dangerous. The situation is very bad. Things need to be calmer," said Saadia Mohamed Majed, a 60-year-old Shiite in Baghdad who wants the penalty to be postponed for at least three years.

Saddam is in the midst of another trial, charged with genocide and other crimes during a 1987-88 military crackdown on Kurds in northern Iraq. An estimated 180,000 Kurds died during the operation. That trial was adjourned until Jan. 8, but experts have said the trial of Saddam's co-defendants is likely to continue even if he is executed.

The U.S. command reported three American military deaths Wednesday, bringing the U.S. death toll for December to 93 in one of the bloodiest months for U.S. troops this year. Some 105 soldiers and Marines were killed in October, according to an AP count.

"This has been a difficult month for coalition forces, and the month is not over yet," a military spokesman, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, said.

Two Latvian soldiers were also killed and three were wounded when a roadside bomb exploded under their Humvee, the Latvian Defense Ministry said. It was unclear where the incident took place, but Latvia has about 130 soldiers serving in Diwaniyah, 80 miles south of Baghdad.

A top aide to the radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr was killed in a raid by U.S. troops Wednesday in the Shiite holy city of Najaf, an Iraqi lawmaker said.

The U.S. military said the death occurred during a joint operation by American and Iraqi troops. It described the man, Sahib al-Amiri, as a criminal involved in the use of roadside bombs.

Well, he 's showing some signs of realization and regret, methinks.
Wilgrove
28-12-2006, 05:56
Well, he 's showing some signs of realization and regret, methinks.

Either that or he just wants to look good before going out. God knows some people are going to use this to show that our invasion was wrong, and Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. Nevermind the kurds he gassed.

:headbang:
Pyotr
28-12-2006, 05:57
Either that or he just wants to look good before going out. God knows some people are going to use this to show that our invasion was wrong, and Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. Nevermind the kurds he gassed.

:headbang:

We really don't know either way. I hope that this quells the old baathist loyalists a bit though.
Sheni
28-12-2006, 05:59
Either that or he just wants to look good before going out. God knows some people are going to use this to show that our invasion was wrong, and Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. Nevermind the kurds he gassed.

:headbang:

Compared to the rest of the Mideast, Saddam wasn't too bad.
Unless you want to claim that Iraq was worse then the human rights nightmare called Saudi Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_saudi_arabia)?
Unabashed Greed
28-12-2006, 06:09
Either that or he just wants to look good before going out. God knows some people are going to use this to show that our invasion was wrong, and Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. Nevermind the kurds he gassed.

:headbang:

Ane we did nothing about. In fact we sold him the "gas" in the first place. But, you're right, nevermind that...
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 06:38
Bush takes notes...
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 06:39
Either that or he just wants to look good before going out. God knows some people are going to use this to show that our invasion was wrong, and Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. Nevermind the kurds he gassed.

:headbang:

Aren't you a Christian?
CthulhuFhtagn
28-12-2006, 06:40
Obviously, this means that peace in Iraq cannot be tolerated. We must begin randomly killing as many people as possible.
Wilgrove
28-12-2006, 06:42
Aren't you a Christian?

and your point is? I mean it's good that he's wanting peace in Iraq, but let's look at why he wants peace. Is it because it'll make his country a better place, or are there other motives?
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 06:44
and your point is? I mean it's good that he's wanting peace in Iraq, but let's look at why he wants peace. Is it because it'll make his country a better place, or are there other motives?

Well, lets give it some time and see if he remains consistent. Oh, wait...
Khaban
28-12-2006, 14:04
I'm just wondering why he should be executed in 30 days?
Is it because we (the western countries) are partially responsible for what Saddam has done, by giving him arms, tanks, etc to fight Iran,
and because we sold him the gas that killed thousands of Kurds?

Is it because if he would be accused of all those things, that then it would come out that we are also responsible for what has happened, and that may not happen.
Greater Valia
28-12-2006, 14:12
Well, lets give it some time and see if he remains consistent. Oh, wait...

rofl
LiberationFrequency
28-12-2006, 14:34
'But he also voiced support for the Sunni Arab-dominated insurgency, saying: "Long live jihad and the mujahedeen." He urged Iraqis to be patient and rely on God's help in fighting "against the unjust nations."'

Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me. Can you support Jihad and peace at the same time?
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 14:37
'But he also voiced support for the Sunni Arab-dominated insurgency, saying: "Long live jihad and the mujahedeen." He urged Iraqis to be patient and rely on God's help in fighting "against the unjust nations."'

Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me. Can you support Jihad and peace at the same time?

Most wars are fought in the name of peace.



Why am I supporting Saddam Hussein? I don't like him. I just don't like the death penalty more. OK. I'm glad I worked that out for myself.
Eve Online
28-12-2006, 14:44
Compared to the rest of the Mideast, Saddam wasn't too bad.
Unless you want to claim that Iraq was worse then the human rights nightmare called Saudi Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_saudi_arabia)?

So, did Saudi Arabia line up close to 300,000 Shias, and shoot them into mass graves, and lightly cover the heaps of bodies with a thin layer of bulldozed soil?
Khaban
28-12-2006, 14:47
'But he also voiced support for the Sunni Arab-dominated insurgency, saying: "Long live jihad and the mujahedeen." He urged Iraqis to be patient and rely on God's help in fighting "against the unjust nations."'

Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me. Can you support Jihad and peace at the same time?

If you follow Bush his thinking (and the thinking of the crusaders) then, yes.
Armistria
28-12-2006, 14:48
Why am I supporting Saddam Hussein? I don't like him. I just don't like the death penalty more. OK. I'm glad I worked that out for myself.I'm confused as well. I mean, he was responsible for the death of thousands of people, yet I don't think that he should die. I know that their deaths were unfair, but you'd think that in more 'civilised' countries Saddam would get significantly better treatment. I just don't like to think about the effects that his death might bring about. He's not directly harming anyone by living, but his death will anger many Iraqis. Is it really worth it?
Eve Online
28-12-2006, 14:50
I'm confused as well. I mean, he was responsible for the death of thousands of people, yet I don't think that he should die. I know that their deaths were unfair, but you'd think that in more 'civilised' countries Saddam would get significantly better treatment. I just don't like to think about the effects that his death might bring about. He's not directly harming anyone by living, but his death will anger many Iraqis. Is it really worth it?

Oh, I would be perfectly happy with stuffing him into a deep, dark dungeon, with no windows and no light, and a hole in the roof that we open daily to lower in a basket with some food and water.

No contact with any humans for the rest of his life.
Silliopolous
28-12-2006, 14:51
'But he also voiced support for the Sunni Arab-dominated insurgency, saying: "Long live jihad and the mujahedeen." He urged Iraqis to be patient and rely on God's help in fighting "against the unjust nations."'

Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me. Can you support Jihad and peace at the same time?


Frankly, from an Iraqi point of view he is perfectly correct in attempting to unite Iraq against the US rather than continue the Sectarian strife.

And, for the record, "jihad" means "struggle". It does not automatically imply violence, although that is the only context in which the western press uses it.

Asking the nation to unite, and show patience to rid themselves of the army that occupies their land would seem to be exactly what the US is asking them to do isn't it? Well, except for that assinine assumption out of Washington that Joe Average Iraqi should be tossing flowers and gratitude their way as thanks for blowing the crap out of their country....
Silliopolous
28-12-2006, 14:59
So, did Saudi Arabia line up close to 300,000 Shias, and shoot them into mass graves, and lightly cover the heaps of bodies with a thin layer of bulldozed soil?

So, have 300,000 bodies been found? Not even close.

Oh yes, and did Shias in Saudi Arabia take up arms and fight alongside an opposing country in a time of war?

As long as you are spouting the BS rhetoric, at least put the proper context around Anfal. Kurdish groups openly rebelled in armed insurrection and fought with the Iranians during the Iran/IRaq war - a war in which both countries were tossing chemical munitions back and forth. Those groups that took up arms against the government were replied to in kind.

Funny how that works isn't it?

Now then, when do we invade Turkey for harshly putting down the Kurdish rebellion in their country? Or invade Spain for fighting Basque terrorists, Mexico for their recent issues with armed insurrection, yada yada yada.

Hell, best invade yourself too while you're at it for the assault on Falujah after an armed insurrection took place there....
Johnny B Goode
28-12-2006, 15:12
Well, he 's showing some signs of realization and regret, methinks.

I hope so. Still, he's a bastard, and he will die as a bastard. I just hope the insurgents listen.
The Infinite Dunes
28-12-2006, 15:17
I believe this is one last gambit by Saddam. He is hoping to influence people that it would be a bad idea to execute him at the moment as he would be considered a martyr and thus be an icon for increased violence in Iraq against the government and occupying forces.

Saddam does encourage peace in this letter, but only between Iraqi Sunnis and Iraqi Shias. He calls the USA (and the rest of the coalition), and Iran enemies of the Iraqi people. He claims that any split in Iraqi unity is due to the puppet government of the invaders. And that Iraqis should continue to unite against the invaders, the government and Iran.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1979105,00.html

He is by no means repentant.