NationStates Jolt Archive


God or Santa?

South Lizasauria
28-12-2006, 04:29
http://santaisselfish.ytmnd.com/

Here's a simple question. God or Santa?
Celtlund
28-12-2006, 04:32
http://santaisselfish.ytmnd.com/

Here's a simple question. God or Santa?

All of the above.:eek:
South Lizasauria
28-12-2006, 04:33
Which one is better, or which one do you like more?
Call to power
28-12-2006, 04:34
oooh religious muzak…I wonder which God they are talking about?

And Santa wins because he’s sponsored by Coca-cola and thus can’t lose lest there be lawsuits!

Edit: I voted God by accident :(
Fassigen
28-12-2006, 04:36
Neither.

http://www.transcendigital.org/transglobal/IN_India/images/misc/ganesh.JPG

Ganesha for the win! He brings us wisdom and fulfillment.

Please, don't feed him peanuts.
Call to power
28-12-2006, 04:40
SNIP

the mouse scares me :(
South Lizasauria
28-12-2006, 04:40
Neither.

http://www.transcendigital.org/transglobal/IN_India/images/misc/ganesh.JPG

Ganesha for the win! He brings us wisdom and fulfillment.

Please, don't feed him peanuts.

That would count as the 'other' option. :)
Wiztopia
28-12-2006, 04:43
Jesus isn't God.
Call to power
28-12-2006, 04:46
Jesus isn't God.

holy trinity he is God along with God and the "holy spirit"

personally I think they ran out of ideas on the last one :D
Fassigen
28-12-2006, 04:48
the mouse scares me :(

Sissymas is over.

That would count as the 'other' option. :)

My pantheon is bigger than your pantheon, so "other" is an affront.
Daistallia 2104
28-12-2006, 06:17
http://santaisselfish.ytmnd.com/

Here's a simple question. God or Santa?

Dang! I thought this was going to be about P.J. O'Rourke's essay "Why God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat" from A Parliament of Whores.

I have only one firm belief about the American political system, and that is this: God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat.

God is an elderly, or at any rate, middle aged male, a stern fellow, patriarchal rather than paternal and a great believer in rules and regulations. He holds men strictly accountable for their actions. He has little apparent concern for the material well-being of the disadvantaged. He is politically connected, socially powerful and holds the mortgage on literally everything in the world. God is difficult. God is unsentimental. It is very hard to get into God's heavenly country club.

Santa Claus is another matter. He's cute. He's nonthreatening. He's always cheerful. And he loves animals. He may know who's been naughty and who's been nice, but he never does anything about it. He gives everyone everything they want without thought of a quid pro quo. He works hard for charities, and he's famously generous to the poor. Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one: There is no such thing as Santa Claus.

I always like to add: Nor is there any such thing as God. And I don't want either in charge! :)

Neither.

Ganesha for the win! He brings us wisdom and fulfillment.

Please, don't feed him peanuts.

:::Feeds the lord of the hosts a peanut:::

Jesus isn't God.

Oh boy! Hunkers down in hopes of a good Unitarian vs Trinitarian argument.
Kyronea
28-12-2006, 06:19
http://santaisselfish.ytmnd.com/

Here's a simple question. God or Santa?
...

Thanks much for the Awesome God that will now be stuck in my head. And lemme tell you, it really sucks to have a religious hymn stuck in your head when you're an athiest.

Santa. Both are fictional, but Santa is more fun.
Unabashed Greed
28-12-2006, 06:20
<old joke>Has anyone noticed that there are the same letters in Santa as there are in Satan? They both wear red. Have you seen them both in the same place at the same time?? Coincidence???</old joke>
Fassigen
28-12-2006, 06:24
:::Feeds the lord of the hosts a peanut:::

That does it! "The Supreme Lord said: I am death, the mighty destroyer of the world, out to destroy." Bhagavad Gita, chapter 11, verse 32.

You watch your insolent back.
Daistallia 2104
28-12-2006, 06:34
That does it! "The Supreme Lord said: I am death, the mighty destroyer of the world, out to destroy." Bhagavad Gita, chapter 11, verse 32.

You watch your insolent back.

Cool! :::puts on Weird Al's "Christmas at Ground Zero" on the CD player:::

It's Christmas at ground zero
There's music in the air
The sleigh bells are ringing and the carolers are singing
While the air raid sirens blare

It's Christmas at ground zero
The button has been pressed
The radio just let us know
That this is not a test

Everywhere the atom bombs are dropping
It's the end of all humanity
No more time for last-minute shopping
It's time to face your final destiny

It's Christmas at ground zero
There's panic in the crowd
We can dodge debris while we trim the tree
Underneath the mushroom cloud

You might hear some reindeer on your rooftop
Or Jack Frost on your windowsill
But if someone's climbing down your chimney
You better load your gun and shoot to kill

It's Christmas at ground zero
And if the radiation level's okay
I'll go out with you and see all the new
Mutations on New Year's Day

It's Christmas at ground zero
Just seconds left to go
I'll duck and cover with my Yuletide lover
Underneath the mistletoe

It's Christmas at ground zero
Now the missiles are on their way
What a crazy fluke, we're gonna get nuked
On this jolly holiday
Wilgrove
28-12-2006, 06:39
Jeez, they just didn't want anyone to enjoy the holiday season did they?

"Oh mommy, Santa is coming, Santa is coming!"

Preacher:"Quiet you little bitch, Santa never died for our sin, Jesus did!"

*girl cries*
Soviestan
28-12-2006, 06:49
God, because he is actually real and not a symbol of materialism.
Delator
28-12-2006, 08:20
Here's a simple question. God or Santa?

Neither...

THIS (http://www.venganza.org/images/wallpapers/3d1600x1200_thumb.jpg)
Unabashed Greed
28-12-2006, 08:26
God, because he is actually real and not a symbol of materialism.

Yes, just as the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, and world peace are real....
UnHoly Smite
28-12-2006, 08:32
Santa Claus because Jesus never gave me shit last christmas.
Wilgrove
28-12-2006, 08:46
Santa Claus because Jesus never gave me shit last christmas.

But, he died for your sin! :eek: Isn't that enough you ungrateful little brat?!

If you don't realize that I am only kidding, then you are an idiot.
UnHoly Smite
28-12-2006, 08:50
But, he died for your sin! :eek: Isn't that enough you ungrateful little brat?!

If you don't realize that I am only kidding, then you are an idiot.


But what has he done for me LATELY??? THATS RIGHT! :p
Wilgrove
28-12-2006, 08:55
But what has he done for me LATELY??? THATS RIGHT! :p

Ummm, he gave you church wafers?
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 09:46
Looks like God beats Santa (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Santa&word2=God), but Santa beats Jesus (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Santa&word2=Jesus)
UnHoly Smite
28-12-2006, 09:52
Looks like God beats Santa (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Santa&word2=God), but Santa beats Jesus (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Santa&word2=Jesus)



And I beat you. Unholy Smite beats Sarkhaan (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Sarkhaan&word2=Unholy+Smite) :D
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 09:53
Looks like God beats Santa (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Santa&word2=God), but Santa beats Jesus (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Santa&word2=Jesus)

In related news, Starbucks beats Coffee.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=starbucks&word2=coffee
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 09:55
And I beat you. Unholy Smite beats Sarkhaan (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Sarkhaan&word2=Unholy+Smite) :D

Oh yeah, it's reaaaaaaal hard to beat someone when their name isn't a real word ;)
IL Ruffino
28-12-2006, 10:05
Big business.
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 10:08
Big business.

Just a little heads up,
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Philadelphia&word2=Boston

as you were.
United Beleriand
28-12-2006, 10:08
Jesus isn't God.Unless you're a Christian.

And as for the question: Santa sucks big time (and I hate Coca Cola), and the Christian God sucks more than anything in the universe.
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 10:11
Unless you're a Christian.

And as for the question: Santa sucks big time (and I hate Coca Cola), and the Christian God sucks more than anything in the universe.

Depends what Christian you are refering to. Catholics believe he is God and Son of God...others don't.

And Coca Cola has nothing to do with the look of Santa, only his popularity (maybe).
United Beleriand
28-12-2006, 10:17
Depends what Christian you are refering to. Catholics believe he is God and Son of God...others don't.Which don't?

And Coca Cola has nothing to do with Santa.Isn't the red-white imbecile Santa worshiped in the US originating from a Coca Cola ad campaign?
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 10:20
Isn't the red-white imbecile Santa worshiped in the US originating from a Coca Cola ad campaign?

Yup.
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 10:23
Which don't?Congregationalist pops into my mind, but its 4:18 AM right now, so that could be wrong. I don't have the effort to look it up right now.

Isn't the red-white imbecile Santa worshiped in the US originating from a Coca Cola ad campaign?

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp
IL Ruffino
28-12-2006, 10:24
Just a little heads up,
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Philadelphia&word2=Boston

as you were.

http://www.themillsfansite.com/communities/images/smilies/icon_stunned.gif
Excuse me? (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Philly+&word2=Bean+Town)
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 10:24
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp

I change my answer to, "Nope".
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 10:27
http://www.themillsfansite.com/communities/images/smilies/icon_stunned.gif
Excuse me? (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Philly+&word2=Bean+Town)

Yeah, but people from Philadelphia actually call it "Philly". People from Boston laugh, mock, and occasionally abuse people who call it "Bean Town". Try "The Hub" instead.

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Philly+&word2=The+Hub
Yenen
28-12-2006, 10:28
SHAMEFULL THAT SOMEONE WOULD VOTE GOD OVER SANTA!


SANTA GIVES YOU PRESENTS, WHAT HAS GOD EVER DONE???

Just to prove my point a list of god's failures:
:( Famine
:( Povery
:( war
:( war
IL Ruffino
28-12-2006, 10:30
Yeah, but people from Philadelphia actually call it "Philly". People from Boston laugh, mock, and occasionally abuse people who call it "Bean Town". Try "The Hub" instead.

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Philly+&word2=The+Hub

Irrevelent.
Desperate Measures
28-12-2006, 10:31
Will this ever get old, by the way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhky59S0T8

By God... I'm tired. My wife comes home today! I spent our first x-mas without her! I'm wired!
United Beleriand
28-12-2006, 10:34
Congregationalist pops into my mind, but its 4:18 AM right now, so that could be wrong. I don't have the effort to look it up right now.So these Congregationalists stepped out of the accord of the First Council of Nicaea of 325 and the subsequent Nicene Creed?

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp?? In Europe St. Nicholas is on Dec 6th and is a bishop, only recently the fat dumbass red-white American version has gained some popularity over here in connexion with Christmas on Dec 24th/25th.
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 10:39
So these Congregationalists stepped out of the accord of the First Council of Nicaea of 325 and the subsequent Nicene Creed? Isn't the first council of Nicaea only accepted by Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, the Assyrians, Anglicans, and Lutherans?

?? In Europe St. Nicholas is on Dec 6th and is a bishop, only recently the fat dumbass red-white American version has gained some popularity over here.

Read the website. It has almost noting to do with Europe, and I'm not talking about Sinterklaas et. al. You implied Coca Cola invented the modern image of Santa Clause.
They didn't. (http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp)
United Beleriand
28-12-2006, 10:56
Isn't the first council of Nicaea only accepted by Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, the Assyrians, Anglicans, and Lutherans?Did Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, the Assyrians, Anglicans, and Lutherans exist back then?
Unfortunately I couldn't find the passages on Yeshua's divinity in the Congregationalists Confession (http://reformed.org/documents/Savoy_Declaration/index.html).

Read the website. It has almost noting to do with Europe, and I'm not talking about Sinterklaas et. al. You implied Coca Cola invented the modern image of Santa Clause.
They didn't. (http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp)Well, they made it popular.
Sarkhaan
28-12-2006, 11:10
Did Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, the Assyrians, Anglicans, and Lutherans exist back then?
Unfortunately I couldn't find the passages on Yeshua's divinity in the Congregationalists Confession (http://reformed.org/documents/Savoy_Declaration/index.html).
k. Let's play "make a coherant discussion", shall we?

You claimed all Christians believe that Jesus is God.
I claimed they don't.
You asked which.
I said Congregationalists came to mind, but I didn't verify if that was accurate.
You asked if they rejected the Nicaean council and creed (this has little to do with the discussion at hand, as the council had more conclusions than just the whole Jesus is God thing, but hey, we can let that slide)
I listed the groups that still accepted the Nicaean council and creed.
You asked if any of those groups existed in 325.

Now, I'm going to ask "What the fuck does that have to do with anything at all?"

Well, they made it popular.
Which is not, in fact, the same as creating it. And they are only part of why it became popular, and have very little, if anything, to do with its popularity in Europe.
Willamena
28-12-2006, 14:58
Which one is better, or which one do you like more?

Which one would win in a fight. It's got to be Santa, he's reformed. God is eternal.
Funky Beat Mk2
28-12-2006, 15:11
Neither. Seagal.
Johnny B Goode
28-12-2006, 15:13
http://santaisselfish.ytmnd.com/

Here's a simple question. God or Santa?

(Yawns)

Who gives a shit?
United Beleriand
28-12-2006, 15:20
k. Let's play "make a coherant discussion", shall we?

You claimed all Christians believe that Jesus is God.
I claimed they don't.
You asked which.
I said Congregationalists came to mind, but I didn't verify if that was accurate.
You asked if they rejected the Nicaean council and creed (this has little to do with the discussion at hand, as the council had more conclusions than just the whole Jesus is God thing, but hey, we can let that slide)
I listed the groups that still accepted the Nicaean council and creed.
You asked if any of those groups existed in 325.

Now, I'm going to ask "What the fuck does that have to do with anything at all?"I just doubt that there are any Christians that do not believe in the divinity of Yeshua, unless they at any point in history stepped out of the Nicaean Creed which was then binding for all Christianity.

Which is not, in fact, the same as creating it. And they are only part of why it became popular, and have very little, if anything, to do with its popularity in Europe.Before the Coca Cola ads St Nicholas was always depicted as a bishop in Europe (in memory of Saint Nicholas, Bishop of Myra, who had a reputation for secret gift-giving) and there was no connexion at all to Christmas except that his saint's day falls into the time of Advent.
Yurka
28-12-2006, 15:25
Jesus is the SON of God, so even though he is a part of the holy trinity, he is not God himself. Jesus = Peace. God = Turning random people to salt. I voted for Santa though, because he at least gives out presents and coal, so I know hes looking out for me! ;)